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MIXOLOGY.[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
SORRY.ALRIGHT, IT'S UH, SIX O'CLOCK.
UM, WE'LL START WITH A, WITH THE, UH, ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ORDER, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT SIX O'CLOCK.
[2. Approval of July 23, 2026 minutes]
ITEM NUMBER TWO,I WAS GONNA SAY, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE SAFE ON THAT ONE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF THE JULY 23RD.
WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THOSE AS SUBMITTED.
SO, SO BE, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
WE GOT, SO I'M GONNA TAKE HIM OFF OF THE, UH, ABSENT AND MOVE HIM OVER.
MR. EDELMAN ONE, UNEXCUSED ABSENCE 6 0 1.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE A CITIZEN FOR A MINUTE.
SO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
LASTING NOT LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.
THERE'S NO ONE IN THE, IN ATTENDANCE.
[4. Public Hearing and Action Items]
UH, AND ACTION ITEMS. HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.UH, SUP 26 0 0 0 1 DAKOTA AVENUE GAS STATION C STORE TO ALLOW A VEHICLE FUELING STATION USE ON APPROXIMATELY 1.76 ACRES ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF LEAGUE CITY, PARKWAY STATE HIGHWAY 96 EAST 1 1 1 WEST LEAGUE CITY PARKWAY, MARK.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARK LINE SCHMIDT WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT OF LEAGUE CITY.
I DO APOLOGIZE, WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT I WILL GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE.
SO THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A GAS STATION ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LEAGUE CITY PARKWAY AND HIGHWAY THREE.
GIVEN THE LOCATION, IF YOU LOOK A LITTLE BIT DIRECTLY TO THE WEST, THERE'S DAKOTA AVENUE.
SO THIS SITE WOULD RECEIVE ONLY ACCESS OFF OF HIGHWAY THREE AND DAKOTA AVENUE BECAUSE OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF THIS GAS STATION ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
UM, THERE IS A LIKELIHOOD THAT, OR THERE IS LIKELIHOOD THAT WE FORESEE THAT DAKOTA AVENUE WOULD NEED TO RECEIVE SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF DAKOTA AVENUE ALONG LAKE CITY PARKWAY IS ACTUALLY CONCRETE, BUT THEN, UH, A COUPLE, I THINK IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET SOUTH, IT TRANSITIONS INTO ASPHALT.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE SECOND, THE PROPOSED SECOND ENTRANCE IS ALONG THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THAT WOULD HELP HELP THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS HELD THOSE PAYMENTS FOR ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT.
THE PROPOSED SITE DOES, UH, ANTICIPATE 10 FUELING PUMPS, THE TWO LEASE SPACES AS WELL AS 5,500 SQUARE FEET OF, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE AREA.
GIVEN THIS LOCATION, AND LET ME BACK UP A SECOND.
IF YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION AS A TOTAL, THE LAKE CITY PARKWAY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAKE CITY PARK ON EITHER SIDE OF HIGHWAY THREE, THOSE ARE, UH, ALREADY ENCUMBERED BY THE CENTER POINT HIGH POWER LINES.
THE SOUTHWEST SOUTHEAST CORNER, UM, IS A POTENTIAL FOR A FUTURE GAS STATION AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, HOWEVER, THAT FEASIBILITY BECOMES DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE ROAD FOR LAKE CITY PARKWAY STARTS THE INCLINE TO MAKE THAT CROSS THAT BRIDGE CROSSING OVER THE RAILROAD TRACK.
SO AGAIN, THE FEASIBILITY OF ACTUALLY THAT DEVELOPING AS A GAS STATION, IT WILL BE DIFFICULT AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE APPROXIMATE AREA OF WHERE THE ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AS PART OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE ELEVATIONS AND WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US, CONCRETE MASONRY IS PROPOSED WITH PORCELAIN TILES AND FIBER CEMENT SIDING.
AS YOU, UH, ALSO SEE IN THE PROXIMITY MAP, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF GAS STATIONS WITH, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITHIN THE THREE MILE RADIUS.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK ON THE NORTH SOUTH DIRECTIONALS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE STILL OPEN AREAS BECAUSE MOST OF THE, THE EXISTING GAS STATIONS ARE ALONG THE EAST WEST THOROUGHFARES.
BASED ON OUR FINDINGS, IT IS COMPLIANT WITH OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
IT, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, DOES HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ONTO HIGHWAY THREE AND DAKOTA AVENUE BECAUSE OF THAT INTERSECTION.
THAT'S WHY WE DO NOT HAVE LAKE CITY PARKWAY INTERCEPT BECAUSE OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS AND, UH,
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THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION.UM, THE SITE PLAN DOES PROPOSE ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS SUCH AS BI ALONG ALL THE ROADWAY FRONTAGE AND THEN AGAIN THE, UH, DAKOTA AVENUE MITIGATION, UH, AFFECTING SOME TRAFFIC IMPACTS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, SHOULD THIS REQUEST BE APPROVED, WE DO HAVE OUR, WHAT I WOULD SAY, OUR TYPICAL GAS STATION, UH, REQUIREMENT, OUR CONDITIONS THAT WE RECOMMEND SPECIAL USE PERMIT TIME TIMEFRAME REQUIREMENTS FOR A GENERATOR AND EXTREME EVENTS.
THAT WAY THEY CAN STILL PUMP GAS, THEY CAN STILL OPERATE THE LIMITED ONSITE USES.
SO THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IN ADDITION TO THE ALLOWANCE WITH THIS SUP AS A VEHICLE FUELING STATION, THE SITE LAY SITE LAYOUT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS DISPLAYED ON IN YOUR PACKETS TONIGHT.
THE FUELING CANOPY ARCHITECTURE, MAINLY THAT THE FUELING CANOPY AND ALL THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES WOULD BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE ARCHITECTURE AND MATERIALS OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
UM, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS, AGAIN, SIMILAR TO THE FUELING CANOPY ARCHITECTURE, FREESTANDING SIGNS MAINLY THAT'S AGAIN, MONUMENT SIGNAGE, LOW SIGNAGE ALONG EACH OF THE FRONTAGES, AND THEN THE FUELING CANOPY SIGNAGE WHERE THAT'S ACCOMMODATED AS PART OF THE FUELING CAMPING CONSIDERATION FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WHERE THIS ONE, AGAIN, IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS THE IMPROVEMENT SUGGESTED BY OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR DAKOTA AVENUE.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 0 6.
IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION BEING NO ONE, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 0 6 AND I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, WE'LL START WITH, UM, MS. ARNOLD, WORK OUR WAY AROUND.
I, ON THE, ON THE IMPROVEMENTS TO DAKOTA AVENUE, UM, AT WHAT, AT WHAT POINT DO Y'ALL START WORK ON THAT? IS THAT, UH, AS SOON AS THEY APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT, OR WHAT TRIGGERS THE COMMENCEMENT TO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS? THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT WOULD BE A PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
SO AS PART OF THE CITY'S INSPECTIONS OF THE SITE, OUR ENGINEERING INSPECTORS WILL, WOULD ALSO INSPECT THE, THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE EXPANSION OR THE IMPROVEMENTS.
WELL, YOU'RE SAYING THAT'D BE PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
I MEAN THE, THE APPLICANT IS NOT, UH, CHARGED WITH IMPROVING THAT STREET.
UH, MATTHEW BROWN, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER.
UM, I, I THINK WHAT MARK WAS TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PURSUE BUILDING PERMITS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THOSE APPROVED PLANS ARE GONNA INCLUDE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO DAKOTA AND THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT WON'T, UM, ACHIEVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNTIL EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED, INCLUDING THE IMPROVEMENTS TO DAKOTA, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IS DAKOTA A CITY STREET? IT IS.
AND SO, UH, DOESN'T THE CITY, UH, AREN'T IN THE CITY CHARGED WITH IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING THE STREETS? SO WE
WHETHER IT BE AN EXTENSION OF UTILITIES TO SERVE THE SITE OR IN THIS CASE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
YOU KNOW, DAKOTA IN ITS CURRENT STATE COULD NOT, FOR INSTANCE, SUPPORT A FUEL TRUCK THAT WOULD SERVE THIS SITE.
UM, SO AGAIN, THEIR IMPROVEMENTS ARE, UH, TRIGGERED BY THEIR NEED FOR THAT ROAD TO, TO, TO RUN THE DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN, IT WOULD BE JUST LIKE, UH, PUTTING IN A NEW SUBDIVISION, THE DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THE, UH, THE STREET TO CITY STANDARDS AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INSPECTED PAST INSPECTION JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE THAT A DEVELOPER DOES, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
SO, UH, THIS PROPERTY ORIGINALLY STARTED MOVING DIRT, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WHATEVER.
SO COULD YOU KIND OF GIVE US THE BACK HISTORY ON KIND OF WHAT HAPPENED? BECAUSE ALONG LAKE CITY PARKWAY, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING 'CAUSE THEY'RE CHANGING THE ENTRANCE, UH, TO DAKOTA.
BUT THEY ORIGINALLY THERE USED TO AN ENTRANCE.
AT LEAST IT STARTED OFF OF 96.
SO, SO THAT YOU PROVIDE A LITTLE COLOR ON THAT.
THAT ACTUALLY OCCURRED UNDER A PREVIOUS INTERESTED DEVELOPER.
WE HAD SPOKEN WITH THEM MANY, MANY TIMES.
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THERE WAS A BIT OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPER US AND TDOT AND, UM, DID NOT PUT IN OR PLACE THAT DRIVEWAY IN WITHOUT FULL AUTHORIZATION BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE.BEFORE SOME, THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON.
AND BECAUSE THE, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT WAS ACTUALLY LOOKING AT, POTENTIALLY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ACTUALLY ALSO ABANDONING A FURTHER RIGHT OF WAY FURTHER SOUTH TO MAKE SURE A LITTLE BIT LARGER FACILITY.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN TRYING TO GET HIS FUNDING, HIS INVESTMENTS, ALONG WITH THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS GOING ON WITHIN LINES WITH THE, THE TRAFFIC THAT HE WAS NEEDING AND THE, THE PURVEYOR THAT WAS LOOKING TO LEASE WITH HIM, HE COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK AND THEN BACKED OUT OF THE DEAL.
UM, AND THEN IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER WHEN THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LAKE CITY PARKWAY, THE LEFT TURN LANES AND THE RIGHT LANE TURN LANES, WHICH HAPPENED ABOUT A YEAR AGO, THAT DRIVEWAY WAS REMOVED BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THE CITY APPROVED AS PART OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THAT RIGHT TURN YEAH.
MOVE, TURNING MOVEMENT BECAUSE IT BECAME A SAFETY HAZARD HAZARD.
A SIMILAR INSTANCE, IF YOU MAY REMEMBER ON THE FIVE CORNERS, THERE WAS A SIMILAR RIGHT TURN LANE THAT, THAT EVEN THIS COMMISSION WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BECAUSE OF THE SAFE SAFETY OF THE TURNING MOVEMENTS IN WHICH THAT DRIVEWAY WAS ALSO DELETED.
SO THE APPLICANT HERE IS NOT THE, SO THERE'S TWO, THE ONE THAT ORIGINALLY STARTED IS NOT THIS APPLICANT? NO, SIR.
I JUST HAVE TWO LITTLE QUESTIONS.
SO DOES THIS BACK UP TO THAT DAYCARE? SO IS THERE DAYCARE RIGHT? I BELIEVE THERE'S A DAYCARE FURTHER SOUTH.
SO IT'S NOT RIGHT, ITS NOT ADJACENT, BUT NOT DIRECTLY.
I, AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST IS ACTUALLY A COMMERCIAL, LIKE A COMMERCIAL OFFICE BUILDING THAT, THAT HAS RECENT RECENTLY BEEN RE BEING REDEVELOPED OR RE OFFICED BY A NEW BUSINESS.
I JUST, I WAS JUST SAYING WITH THAT DAYCARE THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE GOING BACK THERE, THEY MIGHT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE STATION.
WELL ALSO WE WOULD HAVE WITH THE DAYCARE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT IS TABC REGULATIONS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MOST GAS STATIONS DO HAVE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SELL ALCOHOL AND THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THEY AND WE LOOK AT.
SO I JUST WAS SAYING THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE LAND ACROSS THE STREET, POSSIBLY BEING ABLE TO BE A GAS STATION AT SOME PORTION OF TIME.
DOESN'T THAT LAND ACROSS THE STREET HAVE LIKE A BIG UNUSABLE DITCH ALONG THE THAT IS, THAT IS ACTUALLY, THAT'S ANOTHER, THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT ARE, THAT MAKE THAT PROPERTY DIFFICULT AND THAT ENTIRE BLOCK AND THAT SURROUNDING AREA BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF LAKE CITY PARKWAY, BECAUSE OF EXISTING, BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING FLOOD PLAIN EXISTING CONDITIONS AND FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY.
I WAS THINKING THAT I REMEMBERED SOME PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS.
SO THERE'S NO WAY THAT TECH STOCK HAD EVER GIVE HIM A CURB CUT ON 96 RIGHT? WITHOUT COLLABORATING WITH YOU AND GETTING APPROVAL FROM YOU? CORRECT.
I'M GONNA LET MATT ANSWER THAT 'CAUSE HE TALKS AT TXDOT MORE THAN I DO
UH, I WOULD TELL YOU ROUTINELY, YES, WE, WE DO WORK HAND IN HAND AND, AND, UM, THAT IS TDOT'S FACILITY.
I, I WOULD, UH, BUT I, IN, IN OUR EXPERIENCE IN DEALING WITH THEM, THEY, THEY TYPICALLY TRY TO WORK WITH US AND, AND, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK TO GET CONDITIONS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, ACHIEVE OUR CRITERIA, SO TO SPEAK.
SO WE COULD ADD SOME LANGUAGE THAT PRECLUDES THEM FROM EVER ASKING FOR A CURB CUT THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLY DANGEROUS.
WELL, I IT'S ONLY RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT.
I THINK, I THINK ULTIMATELY IF THEY EVER WANTED A CURB CUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, APPROACH US AND PURSUE A PERMIT ANYWAY.
AND, AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
SO CAN YOU BACK UP TO THE PARKING LOT, UM, CONFIGURATION? YES.
SO ARE THOSE PARKING SPACES ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PICTURE REQUIRED TO MAKE THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT? THE ONES ON THE SIDE OF THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FUEL PUMPS? THOSE RIGHT THERE? YEAH, THEY TOO, YEAH, THOSE REQUIRED FOR THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THEY JUST SEEM AWFULLY CLOSE TO THE PUMP.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE PULLING IN WITH BOATS AND TRAILERS THAT IT'S GONNA BE PRETTY TIGHT.
SO I'LL, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER CONSIDERATION, WHEN THEY PURSUE THEIR PERMITS, WE'RE GONNA MAKE THEM, UH, PROVIDE WHAT WE CALL, UH, TURNING TEMPLATES.
UH, BASICALLY DEMONSTRATING THAT, YOU KNOW, A FUEL TRUCK.
I, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THE, THE BIGGEST VEHICLE THEY CAN ANTICIPATE IS A, IS A FUEL TRUCK.
AND, UM, WE'LL MAKE THEM DEMONSTRATE THAT A, A FUEL TRUCK CAN TRAVERSE THE SITE SAFELY AND IF IT, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT MAY JUST HAVE SOME EFFECT ON THE WIDTH OF SOME, SOME DRIVE AISLES AND AND WHATNOT.
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THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL LOOK AT CLOSELY.AND ARE THOSE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FUEL PUMPS? THOSE ARE THE FILL, ARE THOSE THE FILL AREAS FOR THE TANKS SO THAT THE FUEL TRUCK CAN PULL STRAIGHT THROUGH THERE? IS THAT HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK? YES, SIR.
AND DID THE FIRE MARSHAL ALREADY APPROVE THIS PLAN AS IT'S PRESENTED TO US? OR IS THAT YET TO BE, UH, THE, THE FIRE MARSHAL'S A PART OF THE SUP RERE REVIEW PROCESS? UH, YEAH, THE FIRE MARSHAL IS A PART OF THE PROCESS.
UM, AGAIN, SU PS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED THAN A TYPICAL LIKE REZONING, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO NOT GO INTO SUPER, SUPER DETAILED, BUT ENOUGH IS, CAN IT REASONABLY OCCUR BASED ON WHAT WAS PROVIDED? AND YES, THEY HAVE SIGNED OFF ON THE, AND, AND HAVE REVIEWED THIS SET OF PLANS, SO A FIRETRUCK CAN PULL IN THERE AND TURN AROUND.
ALRIGHT, GOOD QUESTIONS, JOEL? UH, NO, I, I GUESS NO QUESTIONS.
I WAS GONNA ASK ABOUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DAKOTA AVENUE, BUT THAT WAS COVERED, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE BECOMING A CITY OF, OF GAS STATIONS.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT'S, THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMISSION, BUT IT, IT JUST DOES SEEM LIKE, MAN, THAT'S A LOT OF GAS STATIONS.
SO I DID NEED GAS ON THE CORNER OF 96 AND HIGHWAY THREE TODAY.
I HAD TO GO TO BUCKY'S, SO IT WOULD'VE WORKED FOR YOU.
BUT I DO WONDER, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE COULD BE, I MEAN, THAT'S A PRETTY, IT SEEMS LIKE REALLY GOOD PIECE OF REAL ESTATE.
UH, AND, AND DO WE WANT ANOTHER GAS STATION THERE? BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW, SO NO QUESTIONS.
UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, I SEE THAT THE, UM, THAT THE GAS STATION'S GONNA HAVE SOME LEASE SPACE ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, WHO DETERMINES, UM, IT, IT, OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET AN OCCUPANCY PERMIT, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, MY CONCERN IS IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER SMOKE SHOP OR VAPE SHOP OR
AND, AND OF COURSE I DON'T GET A CHANCE TO SAY.
SO IF YOU'LL REMEMBER ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE, WE MADE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE.
ALL BUSINESSES IN LAKE CITY ARE SUPPOSED TO COME TO LAKE CITY TO GET WHAT'S CALLED A BUSINESS REGISTRATION.
AS PART OF THAT PROCESS THAT ALERTS THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, A BUSINESS CHANGE OR A FACILITIES CHANGE GIVES THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S SAFE AS WELL AS OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT FROM A CODE STANDPOINT, THAT ALSO GIVES THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THE PARKING REGULATIONS AND THE ZONING TO MAKE SURE, SO OUR DETERMINING FACTOR IS THAT LAND USE CHART IN THE UDC THAT SAYS, OKAY, FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS, YES.
NOR MAYBE YES, IT'S PERMITTED.
OR MAYBE FOR EXAMPLE, IN THIS CASE, SOMEBODY WANTED TO DO AN A GAS STATION AND THE CODE TELLS US IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S ALL SUBJECT WHEN THAT BUSINESS REGISTRATION COMES IN AFTER THE FACILITY OR THE SHELL HAS BEEN GRANTED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS, IS IT ALLOWED BY THE LAND USE MATRIX? SO, AND, AND ON THE SECOND PART IS ON THE VAPE SHOPS, I THINK THAT WAS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE MADE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT ANY KIND OF SMOKE OR VAPE SHOP FROM NOW ON REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
I HAD FORGOTTEN THAT, BUT YES, NOW I REMEMBER.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE,
ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A DAYCARE JUST RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VAPE SHOPS EITHER.
THE DAYCARE, THEY WANT THE BEER AND THE VAPE SHOP RIGHT THERE.
IF, IF YOU, UH, IF YOU MIND, UH, PAYMENT AND I WERE TALKING A SECOND AGO BEFORE WE STARTED ABOUT THE GENERATORS AND I, A LOT OF GAS STATIONS, TYPICALLY THEY'VE BEEN PUTTING 'EM ON THE ROOF.
IF THIS IS IN A FLOOD ZONE OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS, IS IT A CITY REQUIREMENT OR IS THAT JUST THEIR BENEFIT TO PUT THE GENERATOR ON THE ROOF? UH, OUR, OUR CURRENT, OUR CURRENT FLOOD ORDINANCE, UH, MANDATES THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS BE ELEVATED TO A, A CERTAIN STANDARD.
AND YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S 24 INCHES ABOVE THE A HUNDRED YEAR BASE FLOOD ELEVATION OR THREE INCHES ABOVE THE 500 YEAR, UH, ELEVATION IF THAT COMES INTO PLAY.
BUT CONSIDERING THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU SEE MOST OF THESE GAS STATIONS PUT 'EM ON THE, THE, THE ROOF.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ELEVATED TO, TO, TO SOME POINT.
I MEAN, THIS ONE HAS IT ON THE GROUND AGAIN WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN THEY PURSUE THEIR PERMITS.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE THEM DEMONSTRATE THE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE ELEVATIONS FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ENTIRE, UH, COMPONENT AND, UH, VERY WELL LOCATION COULD HAVE TO CHANGE.
FOLLOW UP COMMENT IS THAT THAT LOCATION LOOKS LIKE A BAD
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LOCATION IF THE FUEL TRUCK'S GONNA PULL THROUGH THERE, IT SEEMS TO NARROW THE APPROACH.YEAH, I, I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SOME CHALLENGES YOU THINK.
UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MAYBE ONE MORE QUESTION.
IS IT A BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO UPGRADE DAKOTA? I MEAN, IS THAT ONE OF THE THINGS YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE? UM, I, I WOULD, I WOULD TELL YOU HISTORICALLY, YOU KNOW, LEAGUE CITY HAS MADE DEVELOPERS, UH, DO THAT PART WHEN IT COMES TO, TO PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, EXTENSION OF UTILITIES OR ROADWAYS, YOU KNOW, ADVERSELY, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, COULD BE ASKING TAXPAYERS TO, TO, UH, IMPROVE THAT ROADWAY.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY, UH, THIS IS A DECENT DEAL.
CAN I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION? JUST A KIND OF, UM, PROCEDURAL QUESTION, I GUESS.
SO IF WE GIVE THEM AN SUP AND THEN THEY START THE PROCESS OF THESE, UM, WHAT'D YOU CALL THE TEMPLATES FOR THE TURNING TEMPLATES OR WHATEVER, THEN THEY START THAT PROCESS AND SEEING IF THAT ALL PASSES, WILL, WILL IT THEN COME BEFORE US AGAIN BEFORE, OR THAT IT JUST, NO, THIS WILL BE YOUR LAST LOOK AT IT.
SO THE MAIN THRUST OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS FIRST AND FOREMOST RIGHT NOW TO ALLOW THE USE IS THE USE PERMITTED ON THE SITE.
SO THERE'S ALSO A, FROM, FROM THE DEVELOPER STANDPOINT, THERE'S ALSO A SENSE OF UNTIL THEY GET THE, THE GUARANTEES FROM THE NEW MUNICIPALITY THAT THE USE IS OKAY.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO EXPEND ALL THE MONEY FOR THE ENGINEERING UNTIL THEY GET THOSE GUARANTEES.
AND THAT WOULD, FOR THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS JUST AS A REMINDER, IF IT IS ADOPTED, IT IS ADOPTED AS AN ORDINANCE, IT BECOMES ENFORCEABLE AS SUCH.
DO, DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY IS FOR A TYPICAL GAS STATION? NO, SIR.
THAT WOULD BE PROTECTED OR SOME OF THE SALES TAX.
SOME OF THE SALES TAX INFORMATION IS STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL.
WE CAN'T ALWAYS LOOK INTO REAL PROPERTY TAXES, BUT THAT'S ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE FUEL TAX USED TO GOES THROUGH THE STATE.
USED TO BE PUBLISHED WHEN OUR CFO RECEIVES THAT INFORMATION, SHE HAS TO AGREE TO VARIOUS CONFIDENTIALITY PROVISIONS AND WE'RE EVEN RESTRICTED ON HOW WE CAN SHARE THIS.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE CAN SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC REALLY.
MAY I ASK ANOTHER QUESTION? YEAH, PLEASE.
UM, AS REPRESENTED HERE IN THE SITE PLAN, DOES, DOES IT GENERALLY MEET THE GREEN SPACE REQUIREMENT? THAT'S AGAIN, WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DELVE THAN YOU WOULD SAY A TYPICAL REZONE.
UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CHECK THE VARIOUS THINGS.
THE MAIN KIND OF INTENT THAT WE, WE, WHILE WE GO THROUGH THAT STEP OF PROCESSES IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD, WHETHER IT BE REZONING OR SUP, CAN THIS PROJECT BE REASONABLY MOVED FORWARD IF IT WERE ADOPTED? BECAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T DO ANY BENEFIT TO THE APPLICANT OR THE CITY.
IF YOU GET SOMETHING APPROVED AND EITHER YOU'RE REQUESTING VARIANCES, THEN YOU'RE KIND OF IN THAT CATCH 22.
BUT AS REPRESENTED HERE, IT DOES, IT MEETS THE GREEN SPACE.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO BE INCREASED TO YES SIR.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF THERE IS NO OTHER THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT THIS TIME.
MS. MORRISON, UH,
I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUP 26 DASH 0 0 0 1, UH, SET FORTH WITH THE REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY HAS PLACED ON THEM.
UM, SO MS. MS. MORRISON HAS, HAS MADE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL OKAY, GO AHEAD.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
THOSE OPPOSED NAY WITH ONE NAY.
SO WE HAVE 6 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 YESES AND ONE, NO, THE MOTION PASSES.
YOU WON'T BE GASSING UP THERE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HE DOESN'T JUST DETERMINE THAT
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NEXT TO ITEM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, OTHER BUSINESS.UH, YOU KNOW, AS STAFF MENTIONED AT OUR STAFF COMMENTS,
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UM, LAST MEETING WE DID PUT AN ITEM, AND THIS IS FOR COMMISSIONER MERTENS.UM, SHE DID UNFORTUNATELY HAD SOME CONFLICTS IN WHICH SHE HAD TWO, UH, TWO CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO IT LAST TIME, BUT I WONDER WE, WE PUT UP THERE.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT, WHAT THIS IS ALL, WHERE THIS IS ALL COMING FROM IS THERE IS AN ORDINANCE REGARDING CITY COUNCIL AND BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT DISCUSSES ABSENTEEISM, CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES SPECIFICALLY.
AND THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS, YOU KNOW, WAS WRITTEN AND APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IS THAT THIS IS A MEASURE THAT IF THIS IS TRIGGERED, THIS IS AN AUTOMATIC TRIGGER THAT STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY SAY AS FAR AS ANY OUTCOMES AS A RESULT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS KIND OF FROM OUR STANDPOINT IS ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, IS THAT WHEN WE SEE TWO UNEXCUSED CONSECUTIVE ABSENCES, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PREFERENCE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD COME FORWARD.
UH, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE, OUR MAIN THING IS JUST TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF IT, THAT THIS IS STILL OUT THERE.
WE, WE DO DISCUSS IT DURING OUR ANNUAL TRAINING.
UM, BUT WE JUST WANT TO DO THAT REMINDER BECAUSE THAT HAS COME UP AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS MENTIONED IN OUR LAST MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR CITY SECRETARY, HEY, JUST GIVE YOUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS A REMINDER ABOUT THIS INFORMATION.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? OH YES, PLEASE.
CAN'T WE EXCUSE THE ABSENCES AS THE COMMITTEE AND JUST MAKE A MOTION TO EXCUSE THEM? I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, OKAY.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN EXCUSE THE TWO THAT HAVE OCCURRED NO MORE.
AND THEN WE'RE STARTING AT, I NEED A DOCTOR'S NOTE.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROCESS FOR THAT THEN? HOW WOULD WE, I THINK WE HAD KIND OF TALKED, UM, THERE'S NO ACTUAL PROTOCOL, BUT WHAT WE THOUGHT MAKES SENSE TO US IS IF SOMEONE IS MISSING AND OR IF THEY MISSED TWO CONSECUTIVES, IF THEY WANNA REACH OUT TO THE CHAIR OR REACH OUT TO, BASICALLY THE ACTION WOULD BE ON THE PERSON WHO IS ABSENT TO KIND OF REACH OUT TO CITY STAFF AND REQUEST THAT.
WE DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED, WE DON'T WANT TO BE HOUNDING SOMEONE WHO'S DEALING WITH OTHER THINGS IN THEIR LIFE.
AND SO WE KIND OF THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.
SO YOU'RE ON A VACATION IF YOU'RE DOING THINGS OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
THE BOARD, I BELIEVE, WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY BASED ON HOW THAT'S WRITTEN TO BE ABLE TO EXCUSE IT.
BUT THE ONUS WOULD NOT BE ON STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING UP AND WE'RE EXCUSING YOUR, YOUR ABSENCES.
THE ONUS WOULD BE ON THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO HAVE THE ABSENCES TO REACH OUT EITHER TO THE CHAIR OR TO STAFF AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU PUT IT ON? 'CAUSE I, I I DO WANNA CONTINUE.
SO CAN WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING TO EXCUSE THE ABSENCES? LET'S DO THAT.
I WASN'T SURE IF WE COULD DO THAT NOW OR WE JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON'S NOT ON, ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S ACTUALLY JUST ON THE AGENDA.
IT IS ON THE AGENDA NOW THEY TELL ME.
YOU CAN THINK, VOTE NOW TO EXCUSE IT.
AND THAT'S MUCH HOW, HOW THE CITY COUNCIL DOES IT AS WELL.
EVERY NOW AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE WHO MISSES SOMETHING FOR WHATEVER REASON AND THEY'LL JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND, OKAY.
WELL THEN, UM, THEN IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IF, UH, THEN, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE A MOTION.
UM, I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO EXCUSE.
ANGIE GOING TO A SUPERHERO DINNER.
I MOVED TO EXCUSE HER ABSENCE.
UM, DO WE, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS OR ANY DISCUSSION? ANYBODY HAVE ANY THOUGHTS? NO.
CAN DO WE HAVE A SECOND? CAN I REQUEST THAT WE AMEND THAT MOTION JUST TO INCLUDE ME? I'VE ALREADY GIVEN NOTICE.
THEN WE'RE GONNA MISS THE NEXT TWO BECAUSE MY SON'S GETTING MARRIED.
SO CAN WE AMEND, I PLEASE INCLUDE THAT AMENDMENT IN MY ORIGINAL MOTION.
SHOULD AFTER, AFTER THE ABSENCE.
NOW CAN WE DO IT IN THE FRONT BE SO MUCH EASIER? ARE WE GETTING SURE.
IT'S, IT'S WRITTEN GENERIC ENOUGH.
SO I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION TO INCLUDE YES, PLEASE DO FUTURE ABSENCES OF OUR FELLOW PERSON COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO THE MOTION PASSES, UH, UNANIMOUSLY.
[6. Staff Comments ]
ANY STAFF COMMENTS? JUST, UM, MAGNOLIA PROOF, WHICH WAS CONSIDERED THAT YOUR LAST MEETING ON THIS LAST TUESDAY WAS APPROVED ON FIRST READING.WE'LL BE MOVING TO THE SECOND READING.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING A RETREAT THERE.
UM, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION BETWEEN CITY COUNCIL ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOMETHING EVEN, OH, BACK OVER ON THE EAST SIDE TOO.
UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS OR ITEMS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN AT 6 29.