[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS]
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WILL NOW COME TO ORDER IN A WORK SESSION ON APRIL 28TH, 2025 AT 5 P.M. ROLL CALL. ANY MAN. HE'S COMING A LITTLE BIT LATER. TOMMY COMBS PRESENT. TOM CRUISE HERE. COURTNEY CHADWELL HERE. SCOTT HIGGINBOTHAM HERE. CHAD TRESSLER HERE. SEAN SAUNDERS HERE. ALL RIGHT. AND
[2. PUBLIC COMMENTS ]
WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENTS DOCTOR DAVIS. I KNOW YOU'RE IF YOU JUST YEAH RECORDED A LONG TIME. I WAS AWARE OF THE ARE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE WALKING TRAILS AT HALSEY PARK AND BEING ON THE LAKE CITY ALL MY LIFE. WE DIDN'T HAVE WALKING TRAILS GROWING UP HERE, BUT NOW WE DO. OF COURSE, NOW WE HAVE EAST LAKE CITY AND WEST LAKE CITY, AND I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE. FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS. IN THE LAST TEN YEARS SINCE I RETIRED, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GO ON THE. I LOVE THE TRAILS. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL, BUT THEY'RE TOO NARROW, TOO MANY BIKES AND TOO MANY FAST BICYCLES. KIDS GOING BY 15 MILES AN HOUR. AND IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AS MUCH AS I SEE OLDER PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING THOSE NARROW TRAILS. SO MY CONSIDERATION IS I HOPE THE COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER MAKING THE TRAILS FROM EIGHT FOOT TO A TEN FOOT. BECAUSE I WALK AT THE LAKES OF FRIENDSWOOD. Y'ALL MAY NOT KNOW OF THE LAKES OF FRIENDSWOOD PARK. IT'S AROUND A OLD SAND PIT IN THE BACK HALF OF, I GUESS WESTOVER PARK SOMEWHERE BACK THERE. AND I WALK THERE EVERY DAY, SOMETIMES EARLY IN THE MORNING. ALL THEIR.ALL THEIR WIDTH IS TEN FOOT. THEY HAVE BENCHES ALONG THE WAY. THEY WALK TODAY JUST TO COUNT THE BENCHES. THEY HAVE 20 BENCHES. YOU JUST CAN'T PUT A WALKING PARK, A WALKING TRAIL OUT THERE WITHOUT BENCHES BECAUSE YOU GOT TOO MANY OLDER PEOPLE WHO CAN'T WALK THE WHOLE ONE MILE LOOP AROUND THAT, AND I SEE THEM RESTING ON THOSE BENCHES ALL THE TIME. THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU DO PUT THE PARK WHERE THERE'S EIGHT FOOT WIDE OR TEN FOOT WIDE. THE TRAILS ARE HIDDEN WITH A LOT OF BUSHES. ONE THING I NEVER SEE ON THE TRAILS EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE IN THE EVENING ARE WOMEN. WOMEN DON'T FEEL SAFE THERE, AND I KNOW WE'VE NEVER HAD AN INCIDENT AND THANK GOD WE HAVEN'T, BUT HOPE WE NEVER DO. BUT WE'VE GOT AN OPEN AIR PARK THERE THAT Y'ALL REALLY HAVE THE CHANCE TO MAKE A REAL STATEMENT THERE BY THE WIDTH. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE RUNNING EVENTS ON WEEKENDS, FUNDRAISERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, I NOTICED TODAY THERE WAS THREE WOMEN COMING TOWARDS ME AND THERE WAS THREE OF US WALKING. WE WERE ON A TEN FOOT. WE HAD TO STEP ASIDE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT SHOULDER TO SHOULDER. IT'S TEN FOOT IS JUST THE MINIMUM WIDTH. YOU SHOULD EVEN CONSIDER THAT PART. THAT'S JUST MY OWN OPINION. AFTER WALKING THOSE. AND I REALLY THANK THE COUNCIL BECAUSE ON THE WEST SIDE OF LAKE CITY, WE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY NEED A WALKING TRAIL. AND IF YOU DO CONSIDER THE BENCHES FROM THE BEGINNING, WHICH FRIENDSWOOD DID, THEY PLANTED TREES BEHIND THOSE BEHIND THOSE BENCHES FOR SHADE BECAUSE THE OLDER PEOPLE AND I'M OLDER NOW, BUT THE OLDER PEOPLE CAN'T TAKE THE HEAT AND THEY DON'T WALK DURING THE DAY. SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU SHOULD CONSIDER BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PUT YOU CAN'T PUT WATER STATIONS AT EVERY BENCH. AND SO THAT'S JUST THE MAIN THING I WANT TO SAY IS THE WIDTH OF THE PARK. AND I COMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DOING ALL Y'ALL HAVE DONE FOR THE CITY. WE'VE GROWN TREMENDOUSLY WELL IN THE LAST 60 YEARS, AND BECAUSE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU DOCTOR RUSS TIDWELL. COUNCIL MAYOR, THANK YOU. I'VE COME TO TALK ABOUT THE SAME THING WITH THE WALKING TRAILS. AND HOPEFULLY Y'ALL WILL APPROVE THE WALKING ADD ON THE WALKING TRAIL. LET ME GET MY GLASSES ON HERE. I WALK EVERY DAY AND IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GO FROM THE WEST SIDE TO HOMETOWN HEROES DURING TRAFFIC MORNING OR AFTERNOON. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK. AND SO I USUALLY END UP WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TREADMILL OR WALKING ON TRAILS OVER THERE. AND SOMETIMES I'LL GO OVER TO FRIENDS WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM, FROM LEAGUE CITY ON THE WEST SIDE, GOES OVER TO FRIENDSWOOD AND WALKS OVER THERE TOO. AND THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE OF REALLY GOOD WALKING THINGS OVER THERE. I WAS AMAZED WHEN I WENT TO THIS, THE FIVE K THAT THE CITY PUT ON AND HOW MANY THERE WAS. I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THERE WERE 3 OR 400 PEOPLE THERE, AND 70% OF THE PEOPLE WERE WALKING. AND I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE EVER BEEN OUT TO HOMETOWN HEROES EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE, LATE IN THE AFTERNOON THERE. IT'S GETTING WELL USED OUT THERE, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ON THE WEST SIDE. THE, THE, THE CRUSHED GRANITE. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WALKING ON THAT AND FLAT CEMENT AS FAR AS THE WEAR AND TEAR ON YOUR BODY TOO. SO THE CRUSHED GRANITE IS WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO DO ON THAT. BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT. I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT AND KEEP KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. THANK
[3. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING BID AWARD OPTIONS FOR THE PAT HALLISEY PARK PROJECT ]
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YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM THREE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING BID AWARD OPTIONS FOR THE PAT HOUSE PARK PROJECT. SO MAYOR AND COUNCIL, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I KNOW THE PARK HAS A PRETTY LONG HISTORY IN SOME OF THE COUNCIL WAS HERE WHEN WE STARTED. AND YOU KNOW, AS A PROJECT EVOLVED, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A NUMBER OF ADD ALTERNATES AND DEDUCT ALTERNATES. AND, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS TO, YOU KNOW, GO OVER THE ALTERNATES AND TRY TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT. WE WANT IN THERE AS WE SELECT ALL ALTERNATIVES, WE THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO SOME MATH. I MEAN, THE RELATIVELY CLOSE FOR THE TWO LOW BIDDERS. AND SO AGAIN, A PERFECT GOAL WOULD BE TO AGREE ON ALTERNATIVES. THEN WE WOULD COME BACK TO COUNCIL KIND OF PRESENT THE FINAL NUMBER. BUT ULTIMATELY, IN ORDER FOR THE PARK TO GET STARTED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SELL DEBT. THAT PROCESS IS ABOUT 3 TO 4 MONTHS LONG. SO WE HOPE TO HAVE A FINAL PRICE AND A CONTRACTOR SELECTED BY JUNE 9TH AND AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DEBT ISSUANCE AT THAT TIME. AND THEN WE WOULD ISSUE DEBT IN SEPTEMBER AND AWARD THE CONTRACT IN OCTOBER. SO THERE'S KIND OF THE SCHEDULE.AND SO I KNOW BLAKE IS GOING TO GO THROUGH KIND OF THE OVERVIEW OF THE PARK PRETTY QUICKLY, AND THEN GO THROUGH EACH ALTERNATIVE. WE HAVE SLIDES. AND THEN AT YOUR DESK IS A IS THE SAME SLIDE SHOW THAT YOU ALL CAN REFER TO IF THAT, IF THAT HELPS YOU. SO ANYWAY, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED, BLAKE. OKAY, GREAT. GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL AND MAYOR.
PLEASE STOP ME ALONG THE WAY WITH ANY QUESTIONS. A LITTLE BIT OF A JUST A REINTRODUCTION TO THE PARK SCOPE, JUST AS A LEVEL SET. THIS IS AN OVERALL MASTER PLAN, JUST SHOWING THE THE BASE BID PROJECT. BASICALLY ALL THE PARKING, THE PARKING THAT YOU SEE THERE, BASEBALL FIELDS, SOFTBALL, TWO SOCCER, TENNIS AND PICKLEBALL, AND THEN THE ASSOCIATED DETENTION. I'M GOING TO GO IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL BECAUSE THERE'S SOME ALTERNATES AS WELL. AND WE'LL RECAP THOSE. THIS IS JUST AN ENLARGEMENT AREA OF THE SOFTBALL COMPLEX. YOU CAN SEE THE THE FIVE FIELDS CONCESSION BUILDING IN THE CENTER, THE ASSOCIATED PARKING, ALSO THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND THE UPPER RIGHT. YOU SEE HERE JUST THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE PARK.
WE HAVE THE TWO FLEX INTERNATIONAL SOCCER AND FOOTBALL FIELDS TO THE TO THE WEST, PICKLEBALL AND TENNIS TO THE NORTHWEST. THE BASEBALL AND CONCESSION BUILDING THERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT, AND THEN THE PLAYGROUND AREA AND RESTROOM BUILDING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT TO THE BOTTOM, AND THEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE. MOSTLY DETENTION THERE.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE, THE, THE FOUR PLEX OF BASEBALL, AND THEN OUR CENTRAL OPEN LAWN THAT CIRCLE THERE TO THE LEFT. AND THEN ALL THE WAY DOWN, YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE GRAND PARKWAY, WHICH WE'VE COORDINATED WITH TXDOT AND THAT ALIGNMENT. AND THEN THE LAND THAT IS CUT OFF TO THE SOUTH IS SERVING AS DETENTION. AND THEN THERE'S A COUPLE WETLAND AREAS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO AVOID. SO WE WANTED TO. AND THEN IN THE BACK OF YOUR PACKET, YOU'LL SEE THE FULL BID SPREAD. WE RECEIVED NINE BIDS ALTOGETHER. WHEN WE LOOK THROUGH THE BIDS, THE LOWEST BID WAS NOT A COMPLETE OR QUALIFIED BID. SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION TODAY, WE WANTED TO PRESENT THE TWO MOST PLAUSIBLE BIDDERS WHO ARE FORNEY AND SPA GLASS GENERAL CONTRACTORS. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE IS YOU CAN SEE THE THE BASE BID CONSTRUCTION, THAT IS FOR ALL THE BASE BID ELEMENTS OF THE PARK, WHICH IS, IS BASICALLY THE IMAGE TO YOUR RIGHT. THERE ACTUALLY ARE A FEW ALTERNATES LAYERED IN, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE THERE SPECIFICALLY ON THAT PLAN, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE BASE BID PRICE YOU CAN SEE FORNEY IS, IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER WHEN YOU ADD THE THEIR SCHEDULE BECAUSE THIS IS AN A PLUS B BIDDING. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT ONLY PRICE, BUT THE THE CALENDAR DAYS.
THERE'S A MULTIPLIER OF $2,000 PER CALENDAR DAY. AND SO WHEN YOU ADD THAT IN, THAT'S THE NUMBER AT THE BOTTOM. THAT'S NOT THE CONSTRUCTION PRICE. THAT'S JUST THE THE WEIGHTED PRICE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE MULTIPLIER. SO STILL IN THAT SCENARIO FOR THESE LOW THESE ARE THE ALTERNATES. AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEY'RE NOT ORDERED ONE THROUGH 13.
BASICALLY BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE IS WE'VE REORDERED THESE TO BE GROUPED ASSOCIATED WITH THE BASEBALL FIRST. SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU WERE TO REMOVE NUMBER NINE, NUMBER FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN AND EIGHT WOULD NOT APPLY. SO THOSE WOULD BE REJECTED JUST BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE DOING
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THE BASEBALL. YEAH. AND SO THE ALTERNATES I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THEM. THE FIRST ONE IS NUMBER NINE. THAT'S REMOVING THE THE ORANGE AREA, THE WHOLE FOUR BASEBALL FIELDS AND EVERYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. AND INCLUDING THE PARKING THAT YOU SEE IN ORANGE AS WELL. THEN NUMBER FOUR IS SYNTHETIC TURF FOR THOSE FIELDS. FIVE IS THE ADDITIONAL BATTING CAGE THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE. NUMBER SEVEN IS THE CONCRETE BLEACHERS. THERE WAS, IF YOU RECALL, THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE TO DO CONCRETE BLEACHERS BASEBALL AND THEN CONCRETE BLEACHERS FOR THE SOFTBALL AS WELL. THE CONCRETE BLEACHERS ARE IN LIEU OF THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS THAT ARE IN THE BASE BID. THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS BASICALLY HAVE A RETAINING WALL BEHIND THEM, AND THEN THEY'RE STANDARD ALUMINUM BENCH BLEACHERS. THE CONCRETE BLEACHERS ARE LIKE SEAT STEPS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE SLOPE. A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON THAT HERE IN A SECOND. AND THEN WE HAVE THE NUMBER ONE IS THE THE EIGHT FOOT WIDE, TWO AND A HALF K TRAIL LOOP THAT GOES AROUND THE PROJECT. AND THEN THERE WAS AN INCREASE TO TO GO FROM 8FT TO 10FT AT NUMBER TWO.NUMBER THREE WAS THE UPGRADED SOFTBALL PLAZA. SO AGAIN, I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THAT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY AN UPGRADED AREA WITH WITH A DIFFERENT SURFACING. THE NUMBER EIGHT IS THE CALDER ROAD CONNECTION FROM THE PARK. THE NUMBER TEN IS ADDITIONAL REFORESTATION.
NUMBER 11 IS SURPLUS PARKING THAT YOU SEE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SITE, GOING NORTH AND SOUTH. AND THEN NUMBER 12 IS TO REMOVE ALL THE SCOREBOARDS. THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBLY GETTING A VENDOR, A DIFFERENT VENDOR WHO WOULD WHO WOULD BRING THOSE IN AT THEIR COST IN ORDER TO ADVERTISE. I THINK THE CITY IS IS NOT WANTING TO MOVE TOWARDS THAT, BUT WE HAVE THAT AS AN, AS AN OPTION. AND THEN UPGRADING THE SOUTH PLAYGROUND. THAT'S JUST ADDING MORE EQUIPMENT IN THAT IN THAT AREA. SO LET ME GO THROUGH THESE REAL QUICK. AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE JUST IN ORDER OR THE TWO, HOW THE, THE PRICING CAME IN FOR EACH ALTERNATE. WE'LL START WITH THE REMOVAL OF THE BASEBALL COMPLEX. SO THE BASEBALL COMPLEX IS IN THAT BASE BID NUMBER. THE REMOVAL OF THAT NUMBER IS REPRESENTED IN THIS NUMBER AS A DEDUCT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE THE 7.4 FOR FORNEY AND THE 7.5 FOR SMALL GLASS. THERE'S 150 STALLS ASSOCIATED WITH WITH THAT PARKING STALLS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT COMPLEX. BUT THAT WOULD REMOVE EVERYTHING IN THAT THAT ORANGE AREA, INCLUDING THE CONCESSION BUILDING AND LANDSCAPE AND SITE WORK. THIS IS THE SYNTHETIC TURF THAT WOULD BE FOR THE INFIELD OF THOSE FIELDS. AGAIN, IF YOU REJECTED THE PREVIOUS ALTERNATE, THIS WOULD OBVIOUSLY NOT APPLY.
BUT IF YOU DECIDED TO UPGRADE TO ARTIFICIAL TURF, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE FOR KNEES AT 1.7, SPA GLASS AT 1.1. THIS IS THE BATTING CAGES, ADDITIONAL BATTING CAGES. YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE IN THE BASE. THIS WOULD BE FOR AN ADDITIONAL FOUR BATTING CAGES. THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BASEBALL. YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS FOR FOR KNEE AND SPA GLASS. THIS IS BOTH THE ALTERNATE FOR SIX AND SEVEN ARE VERY SIMILAR. ONE IS FOR THE THE BASEBALL ONE IS FOR THE SOFTBALL. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BASE BID IS THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS, WHICH ARE, AS I MENTIONED, JUST ALUMINUM WITH A RETAINING WALL BEHIND IT. THE. THE ALTERNATE BELOW IS IS FOR THE CONCRETE, WHICH IS BASICALLY BENCHED INTO THE SLOPE. FORNEY IS ACTUALLY IS ADDING DOLLARS. SPA GLASS IS DEDUCTING AND WE HAVE CONFIRMED. THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK IT'S JUST THEIR THEIR APPROACH TO THIS PROJECT. AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ELIMINATE THAT WALL, THE RETAINING WALL BEHIND IT, THERE ARE SOME COST SAVINGS. SO THEY WERE THEY WERE ABLE TO OFFER A DEDUCT FOR FOR THOSE AND THEN BLAKE FOR THE COUNCIL WITH THE CONCRETE SEATING, WHILE MORE PERMANENT, IT HAS LESS SEATS. CORRECT. IT HAS SLIGHTLY LESS SEATS. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IT WOULD BE THE PRO IS THAT IT WOULD BE LESS MAINTENANCE. YOU ALSO DON'T HAVE THE THE GAP IN BETWEEN WHERE YOU SEE THE GAP IN THE BLEACHERS WHERE THEY COME TOGETHER, THE THE CONCRETE WOULD ELIMINATE THAT GAP. AND THIS IS FOR OUR OUR TWO AND A HALF K TRAIL YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS THERE. EIGHT FOOT WIDE IS IS ALTERNATE ONE. AND THEN THE INCREASE THE ADDITIONAL TWO FOOT INCREASE TO TEN FOOT WOULD BE NUMBER TWO. THIS IS THE ALTERNATE FOR THE UPGRADED SOFTBALL PLAZA. YOU CAN SEE THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS IS VERY
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BASIC. IT WOULD JUST BE A NATURAL LAWN. AND THEN WITH THE TREES. AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO SELECT THE UPGRADE, IT WOULD CONVERT TO DECOMPOSED GRANITE. SO AND ALLOW FOR MORE OF A GATHERING SPACE AND PEOPLE TO CONGREGATE UNDERNEATH THOSE TREES, AND THEN SOME PLANTING ADJACENT TO THAT. AND THEN THE CALDER ROAD CONNECTION, YOU CAN SEE FOUR KNEES AT ROUGHLY 1.2, AND SPA GLASS IS JUST OVER A MILLION TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION. AND THAT'S ALL THE ASSOCIATED LANDS REQUIRED LANDSCAPE. AND I BELIEVE THE SIGN AS WELL IS IN THAT. AND THEN IT STORM UTILITIES. YEAH. TURNKEY EVERYTHING. THIS WAS ONE OF THE ALTERNATES THAT WAS REQUESTED BY PARKS BOARD FOR ADDITIONAL REFORESTATION. YOU CAN SEE THE PINK REPRESENTS THE ALTERNATE.WHAT'S IN THE BASE IS REPRESENTED IN IN THE GREEN THERE. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF ADDITIONAL REFORESTATION, WHICH IS BASICALLY SMALLER, SMALLER TREES THAT ARE CLUSTERED TOGETHER TO CREATE THAT FOREST. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE WHAT FOR NEEDS AT 190, 000 AND SMALL GLASS IS ABOUT 93,000. THIS IS THE ADDITIONAL PARKING. YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THAT WHOLE WEST WEST SIDE. THERE'S A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THE MAINTENANCE. AND THEN WE HAVE A LARGE BAY THAT'S SOUTH THAT REPRESENTS ABOUT 208 STALLS. YOU CAN SEE THERE FORNEY AND SPA ARE PRETTY CLOSE. 879 AND 846. AND JUST ONE OTHER THING THAT THAT THAT ADDITIONAL PARKING BASICALLY KICKS YOU OVER. WHAT WHAT IS PROVIDED AT CHESTER DAVIS IN TERMS OF THE PARKING RATIO. SO IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU MORE OF A MORE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR TURNOVER.
AND THEN THIS WAS THE SCOREBOARD OPTION THAT I MENTIONED. THIS JUST WOULD REMOVE ALL THE THE SCOREBOARDS. I BELIEVE IT LEAVES THE CONDUIT. THE CONDUIT AND THE POWER TO THE SCOREBOARD LOCATIONS, BUT IT WOULD REMOVE THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AND THE SCOREBOARD. YEAH.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ALTERNATE FOR THE PLAYGROUND. YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT IS BASICALLY THE BASE BID WOULD JUST BE SOME MOUNDING BUT BUT NATURAL GRASS. AND THEN IF WE'RE IF WE THE ALTERNATE GETS US A PLAY TOWER THAT IS GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A TODDLER STRUCTURE JUST SO THE PLAYGROUND IS, IS ADDRESSING MORE WIDER AGE GROUPS.
AND THEN THE, THE SWING THAT'S THERE ON THE LEFT. AND, AND THIS WAS JUST AN OVERALL PARKING COMPARISON. IF WE'D LIKE TO DRILL INTO THAT IN MORE DETAIL, WHAT YOU'D WHAT YOU'D HAVE WOULD BE THE WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. BUT WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT IF THERE'S QUESTIONS. I THINK THAT'S THAT. THAT'S IT. WE HAVE THE SPREADSHEET IN THE BACK, AND I THINK WE'RE HOPING THAT TODAY WE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS KIND OF GO BACK BACK TO THE SLIDES AND GO PROJECT BY PROJECT. EVERYBODY ASK QUESTIONS ON EACH OF THESE, ADD ALTERNATES AS WE GO THROUGH THEM. OKAY, SO LET'S START WITH LET'S START WITH BASEBALL. YOU WANT A KEY UP OR JUST TALK OUT? YEAH, YEAH. JUST JUST GO ON THE ON THE KEY. OKAY. I'LL START WITH THE BASEBALL. YOU KNOW, I WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR THE ALTERNATE ON THE BASEBALL OF REMOVING IT. AND THE REASON I DID IS BECAUSE WE WERE WORKING ON SEVERAL OTHER OPTIONS AT THE TIME. THOSE OPTIONS HAVEN'T COME TO FRUITION. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M MUCH MORE. YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE LEANING TOWARDS PUTTING IN THE BASEBALL. BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE. BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO SAY. MR. MAYOR, I, I THINK THAT IT'S WELL NEEDED. I MEAN, ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN LEAGUE CITY RIGHT NOW IS BASEBALL AND, AND FIELDS AND SO FORTH. I, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE VERY BLUNT. I THINK WE ALMOST NEED EVERYTHING EXCEPT MAYBE SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING. I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARK THAT'S GOING TO BE WELL USED ON THE WEST SIDE. BUT I THINK THE BASEBALL IS WELL NEEDED. I REALLY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT WAS BEING TAKEN OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO I'M ALL FOR IT. MR. CHESTER. YEAH. PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT MR. CONE SAID. MY MY BOY NO LONGER PLAYS BASEBALL, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I. I'M NOT RECENTLY AND FULLY FAMILIAR WITH THE SHORTAGE OF FIELDS IN THE AREA. AND IT'S ONLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO
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CONTINUE TO BE MORE AND MORE. BECAUSE THE THE, THE TRUTH IS, LEAGUE CITY IS A FANTASTIC PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY. PEOPLE MOVE HERE TO HAVE THEIR KIDS AND RAISE THEM HERE. WE'RE ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO NEED MORE BALL FIELDS. AND THE LONGER WE DELAY GETTING THEM, THE MORE THEY'LL COST. SO EVEN THOUGH IT LOOKS LIKE A BIG COST NOW, IT ONLY GETS WORSE IF WE KICK THE CAN SCREWS. I DON'T KNOW WHY I'VE GOT. YEAH. YOU HAVE NEGATIVE TIME. YEAH, I GUESS I'M DONE ALREADY. YEAH. I JUST I REALLY THINK THE BASEBALL FIELDS GO HERE. THE ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE THAT HAVE COME TO ME, ESPECIALLY AT THE OFFICE WHERE WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOT OF ONE ON ONE, THEY WERE JUST SAYING HOW MUCH THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HAVE MORE BASEBALL FIELDS SOME POINT. SECOND. BUT YEAH, I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR THE FIELDS TOO. JUST LIKE EVERYONE SAID, I'M A LITTLE CURIOUS ABOUT. OBVIOUSLY WE GOT THESE TWO BIDS AT 40 AND SMALL GLASS, AND I KNOW THERE WAS A QUITE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON THE TURF OPTIONS BETWEEN THE TWO. I'M INTERESTED IN WHAT WAS, WHO WERE THE COMPANIES THAT ARE USING TO INSTALL THE FIELDS? I'M OBVIOUSLY FOR FIELDS, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING QUALITY FIELDS IN. I COACHED A LOT OF BASEBALL GAMES AND A LOT OF BAD FIELDS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE GETTING THE QUALITY. AND SO I'M A BIT INTERESTED IN DIGGING INTO THE BID ON WHAT COMPANIES ARE GOING TO DO THE FIELD WORK, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE LAID OUT RIGHT. DRAINAGE IS CORRECT. EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY.LET'S GET THAT INFORMATION TO THEM. AND THE QUESTIONS I HAD ABOUT THE FIELDS IS, WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE INFIELD? WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE FIELDS IN GENERAL, BUT PARTICULARLY THE INFIELD? WHAT ARE WE BUILDING THEM TO? YEAH. GREAT QUESTION.
WE BUILT TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS INTO THE DESIGN. I NEED TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE EXACT DIMENSIONS. I DON'T WANT TO MISSTATE IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM. FRANKLY, TWO FULL SIZE BASEBALL, ALL OF THEM. AND THEN BRING IN THE FIELDS, BRING IN THE FENCES FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS AND BRING IN THE BASES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE IF YOU GO LOOK AT LIKE, BUILD IT, THEY WEREN'T BUILT FOR FULL SIZE BASEBALL. AND THE COST OF NOW RETROFITTING THEM BACK TO FULL SIZE BASEBALL IS INCREDIBLE. BUT IF YOU DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, IT'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS. SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT WHAT IT TAKES TO PUT FULL SIZE BASEBALL ON ALL OF THEM. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BRING IN THE FENCES FOR THE YOUNGER KIDS IF NEEDED, AND THEN GOING TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH KIND OF, OF COURSE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PONY SIZE.
HIGH SCHOOL SIZE. YEAH, HIGH SCHOOL SIZE FIELDS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE INFIELD, THE, YOU KNOW, TURFING THE INFIELD FOR 1.1 OR $1.7 MILLION. YEAH. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BUYING GOOD TURF THE FIRST TIME, RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU BUY BAD TURF, YOU END UP BUYING MORE LATER. BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTH IT TO TURF THE FIELDS FROM A MAINTENANCE PERSPECTIVE FROM A FROM A USE PERSPECTIVE. RIGHT. AND SO ONE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE WITH THE SPORTSPLEX NOW IS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE PLAYING BASEBALL IN THE SPRING. SPRING IS THE TIME THAT IT RAINS, OBVIOUSLY. AND IF YOU GET AN INCH AT THE SPORTSPLEX, IT KNOCKS OUT THE FIELDS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME. SO I DO THINK THE INFIELD TURF IS WORTH THE ADDITIONAL MONEY TO, TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT IN THE BASEBALL FIELDS. OKAY, I WAS GOING TO SAY THE SAME EXACT THING. THE, THE IT'S NOT EVEN SO MUCH ABOUT THE, THE MAINTENANCE COST, BECAUSE I THINK THEY PROBABLY END UP WASHING OUT BETWEEN HIM AND TO REDO THE, THE ARTIFICIAL TURF PERIODICALLY VERSUS HAVING TO, TO MOW AND, AND KEEP NATURAL. BUT, BUT FOR ME, IT'S ALL ABOUT AVAILABILITY. OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE MORE FIELDS AVAILABLE FOR USE. AND YOU ONLY GET THAT BY HAVING ARTIFICIAL TURF BECAUSE YOU CAN PLAY ON THAT EVEN WHILE IT'S RAINING, SO LONG AS THERE'S NO LIGHTNING NATURAL GRASS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT. SO I, I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY HERE. AND EVEN IF WE'RE RENTING THESE FIELDS OUT FOR SELECT TEAMS TO PRACTICE ON KEEPING THAT, THAT REVENUE COMING IN IS WHAT'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT, THAT TURF. YEAH. AND TO THAT POINT, RIGHT. SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO RENT THE FIELDS OUT AT THE SPORTSPLEX TO SELECT TEAMS, BECAUSE THE LITTLE LEAGUE AND PONY LEAGUE AND COLT LEAGUE ARE DOING THE MAINTENANCE ON THE FIELD. SO WE WE WERE RENTING THEM OUT AND THEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE MESSING THEM UP FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAINTAINING THEM. BUT IF THEIR TURF IT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME OF THAT. NOT LIKE THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT REVENUE GENERATOR, BUT AT LEAST IT IS ONCE AGAIN FULFILLING THE MISSION OF MORE ACCESS TO FIELDS. YEAH. JUST QUICK. I LOST LIKE HALF A SEASON ONE TIME BECAUSE FIELDS WERE WET ALL THE TIME. AND SO I, I HOPE WE CAN DO THIS TURF OPTION. I
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DROVE OVER AND WALKED THE SPORTSPLEX IN PEARLAND BY SHADOW CREEK AND THEY HAVE THIS SETUP. THEY HAVE TURF INFIELDS AND A GRASS OUTFIELDS. AND IT'S A REALLY IMPRESSIVE SETUP.THERE. MAY I SUGGEST SOMETHING SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK EVERY SUBJECT ON EVERY LINE ITEM HERE? MAYBE JUST SHOW A SHOW OF HANDS IF WE AGREE WITH IT, MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A COMMENT ON EVERY, EVERY ITEM. I MEAN, I, I AGREE WITH THE TURF, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER. WE'RE GOING TO BE UP HERE PAST COUNCIL MEETING, IF THAT'S OKAY, WE'LL ROLL THROUGH IT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN VOTE ON EACH ONE OF THEM, BUT NO, WE ALL GET ON. WE ALL GET ON THE BASEBALL FIELDS. YES. AND TURF. YES. OKAY. GOING TO THE NEXT ONE. THIS ONE. ACTUALLY, I'M NOT AS OKAY WITH. RIGHT. I NEED SOME EXPLANATION ON THIS. I THINK YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NEED BATTING CAGES. IS THERE BATTING CAGES ALREADY? IT APPEARS LIKE THESE TWO OTHER SQUARES ARE BATTING CAGES. YES, SIR. AND THEN. SO THIS WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL FOUR LANES. MY MY ISSUE WITH IT IS $350,000 FOR FOUR LANES. IT SEEMS INCREDIBLY HIGH TO ME AND IT JUST IS. IT'S GIVING ME STICKER SHOCK AND HEARTBURN OVER IT. THE OTHER THING I WAS THINKING ON THE CAGES, THAT'S MORE AN ISSUE FOR FOR NIGHTS WHEN THERE'S LIKE A LEAGUE AND THEY'RE USING EVERY FIELD AND THERE'S TEAMS THAT ARE COMING ON NEXT AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO WARM UP. IF WE'RE LOOKING TO USE THIS A FOR LITTLE LEAGUE VERSUS SPORTSPLEX, OR IF THE LITTLE LEAGUE'S LOOKING TO GROW INTO IT, ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ARTIFICIAL TURF INFIELDS MAYBE INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE THE WORK IN THEIR MONEY INTO THE MAINTENANCE THEY PUT IN TO RAISING MONEY AND BUILDING THEIR OWN CAGES. SO I THINK THAT'S A FAIR ONE TO LOOK AT. AND THERE ARE SET. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE AREN'T ANY. RIGHT.
SO THIS IS THE ONE I WOULD. COURTNEY. SORRY. YEAH. THE OTHER ISSUE I HAVE WITH THE BATTING CAGES IS THE LOCATION TO. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THIS, THIS ADD ON WAS SUGGESTED, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE TEN FEET FROM THE MEMORIAL FUTURE MEMORIAL SITE. AND I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A TRANQUIL AREA OVER THERE. FOR REFLECTION. YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR ALUMINUM BATS SINGING TEN FEET FROM, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA. SO THAT WOULD BE THE ONE I, I DON'T SUPPORT ON THE ON THE BASEBALL SIDE, BUT I KNOW WE'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT. THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS VERSUS THE CONCRETE. YOU KNOW, ON THIS ONE, IT SAYS THAT THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS FIT MORE PEOPLE. AND I GUESS THAT IS IF YOU STACKED EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE BLEACHERS, THAT'S JUST I MEAN, THAT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. LIKE, PEOPLEDON'T SIT LIKE THAT.
PEOPLE DON'T JUST STACK DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF EACH OTHER ON ALUMINUM BLEACHERS. I WOULD SUPPORT THE CONCRETE BLEACHERS OVER THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS. CHAD. I HATE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS.
THEY'RE NEVER IN A GOOD STATE OF REPAIR ONCE THEY'RE MORE THAN A YEAR OLD. THE CONCRETE ONES, THE THE FACILITY DOWN IN GALVESTON. THEY'RE LITTLE LEAGUE FACILITY HAS A SIMILAR SETUP, AND IT'S HELD UP WELL WITH ZERO MAINTENANCE. I LOVE THAT ASPECT OF IT. I ALSO THINK AS WE'RE ADDING A BUNCH OF THESE BACK IN THE, THE, THE SMALL GLASS PACKAGE BECOMES CHEAPER THAN THE 41. AND WE ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY BY DOING THE CONCRETE WITH THEM. SO I'M FULLY IN FAVOR OF THE CONCRETE ACCORDING. QUICK QUESTION, IS IT POSSIBLE TO REVISE THE DESIGN OF THOSE CONCRETE CONCRETE BLEACHERS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL ROW LIKE YOU HAVE WITH THE ALUMINUM BLEACHERS? THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT. WHAT WE'VE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS THE AREA BEHIND IT. WE'VE SET THE BUILDING AT THAT FINISH FLOOR. SO IT'S, IT'S GOING TO TRIGGER A LOT OF. IT'S, IT'LL ESSENTIALLY CREATE. UNLESS WE THAT AS WELL, WE WOULD BE, WHICH I WOULD. WE CAN'T DO BECAUSE THE SLOPES GOING UP IN ADA ACCESSIBILITY.
IF WE WERE TO ADD ANOTHER ROW, IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A STEP THAT'S PROTRUDING OUT OF THE GROUND AND, AND SOMEWHAT OF A BARRIER. THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD STUDY.
OKAY. MY EXPERIENCE IS MOST PEOPLE DON'T SIT ON THE BLEACHERS ANYWAY. THEY JUST SIT IN CHAIRS DOWN THE THE SIDES. BUT LET'S LOOK AT IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO JUST DO A ROUGH ESTIMATE ON THAT. YEAH. AND AS FAR AS COMFORT GOES OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, MOST PEOPLE ARE BRINGING THEIR OWN CHAIRS, EVEN THE PORTABLE CHAIRS TO THE CHAIR ON CONCRETE. THAT'S PART OF THE, YOU KNOW THAT. SPACE MOVING TO THE MOVING TO THE TRAIL. I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AT THE LARGER AT THE LARGER SIZE. I AGREE. AGREED. ANYBODY DISAGREE? ALL RIGHT.
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THE UPGRADED SOFTBALL PLAZA. I MEAN, IT'S NOT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS ON THIS. IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY. BUT I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS IT THAT UPGRADED. YOU KNOW, I JUST DECOMPOSED GRANITE. A LOT OF MAINTENANCE WITH IT. WHAT ARE THOSE HARD STRUCTURES INSIDE THE INSIDE THE AREA THAT'S PICTURED THERE, THOSE BENCHES AND PICNIC TABLES AND STUFF LIKE THAT? YES, SIR. WHEN WE TALKED THIS THE FIRST TIME, THE THE RATIONALE FOR THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE IS THAT WITH ALL THE PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THERE, THE GRASS AIN'T GOING TO STAY. SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE THE DECOMPOSED GRANITE IS BEING TALKED THERE. AND AGAIN, IF WE'RE DOING ALL THE REST, THAT'S 56,000 TO TO SAVE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO RUN MOWERS IN THERE, DON'T HAVE TO BRING THE THE LAWN GUYS AND OR HAVE JUST OPEN DIRT. SO MY ONLY AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALL THAT. MY, MY ONLY CONCERN HERE IS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS THE ONLY PLAY STRUCTURE DOWN BY THE BASEBALL FIELDS. WE HAVE ONE AT THE SOFTBALL. AND THEN LET ME GO BACK TO THE. THERE WE GO. IF THERE IS ONE AT SOFTBALL, THERE IS ONE IN THERE. YES, IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE CONCESSION BUILDING IN SOFTBALL. IN THE ROUND THERE'S A SMALL ONE. AND THEN WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY THIS LARGER ONE. THAT'S BY THE SOCCER. OKAY. YEAH. I MEAN, IT JUST IT'S TOO FAR. YOU KNOW, THE ONE BY THE BASEBALL WOULD JUST BE TOO FAR FOR MOST PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE LETTING THEIR KIDS RUN ALL THE WAY OVER THERE. SO. OKAY. CALDER ENTRANCE. I THINK IT'S NEEDED, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY, EITHER WHEN WE OPEN OR NOT OPEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED. COMING OFF CALDER, WE HAD TO ADD THAT EXTRA ENTRANCE TO THE SPORTSPLEX. YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING. AND AGAIN, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. THE LONGER WE PUT IT OFF THE MORE IT'S GOING TO COST. YEAH. I MEAN I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY NEEDED. THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT I WOULD IF WE'RE IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIT INTO A BUDGET FOR, YOU KNOW, BOND PURPOSES AND DEBT PURPOSES, IT MAYBE CAN BE DELAYED. BUT I AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN EVENTUALLY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. THE ONE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THIS ALREADY HAS TWO EXITS ONTO IRWIN. YES, SIR. SO THE SPORTSPLEX ONLY HAD WELL I GUESS SPORTSPLEX HAD TWO THEN TWO. BUT YOU KNOW, IT GOT VERY, VERY BAD AT THE SPORTSPLEX TO THE POINT WHERE IT JUST WHEN THE GAMES WERE CHANGING OVER, IT TOOK LIKE 15 MINUTES TO GET OUT. IT FELT LIKE NRG PARK. YOU JUST COULDN'T EVEN GET OUT OF THERE SOMETIMES. SO IT IS GOING TO BE NEEDED. BUT IF IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS, YOU KNOW, $51 MILLION, THAT MIGHT BE SOMEPLACE TO DELAY TILL LATER. THE REFORESTATION, MY MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS NOT TO NOT TO REMOVE IT, BUT JUST LOOK FOR A DIFFERENT PORTION OF FUNDING AND TO FUND THIS OUT OF THE THE TREE FUND, YOU KNOW, THE FINES AND THE STUFF THAT DEVELOPERS PAY FOR REFORESTATION AND JUST USE THAT MONEY INSTEAD OF FOR BEAT MONEY. SURE. AGREED. IS THIS SOMETHING THAT CAN JUST NATURALLY REINFORCE ON ITS OWN? I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE LIKELY JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED TO BE MAINTAINED. SO ARE Y'ALL REMOVING ALL THE TREES, OR ARE YOU GOING TO LEAVE SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE IN PLACE AND JUST WORK AROUND? NO, WE'RE REMOVING PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE MOST OF THE AREAS WITH INVASIVE TALLOW, AND WE ALSO HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF EARTHWORK THAT WE'RE NEEDING TO DO THAT. YOU'RE GOING TO GET ARBORIST AND GET YES, SIR, ALL CHECKED OFF BECAUSE I MEAN, YOU JUST YEAH, I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T WE WOULD NOT LET A DEVELOPER DO THAT.RIGHT. BUT I MEAN, THINK TALLER TREES, OF COURSE THAT'S ONE THING, BUT NO PROBLEMS. BUT BUT LET'S MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT SIGNIFICANT TREES OUT THERE BEFORE WE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPOTS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, THESE ARE LITTLE STRIP ISLANDS AROUND OTHER THINGS.
THESE AREN'T GOING TO BE A BIG OPEN FIELD. SO YEAH, THE ODDS OF BEING ABLE TO LEAVE SOMETHING AND LINING UP WITH THOSE SPOTS WOULD BE MIRACULOUS. YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. THE OFF STREET PARKING, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING, I FEEL KIND OF JUST LIKE THE THE CALDER DEAL. I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE NEEDED ONE DAY, BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING TO FIT INTO THE BUDGET, THIS WOULD BE ONE THAT I WOULD LOOK TO POSTPONE UNTIL LATER. I FEEL LIKE THE TWO OF THOSE GO TOGETHER, NOT JUST IN NATURE, BUT THAT ENTRANCE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT. YEAH, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LONG WALK FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PARKING. IT WILL IT WOULD BE A LONG WALK.
ABSOLUTELY. I CAN DEFINITELY SEE THE NEED FOR IT. I JUST WE'RE JUST SPENDING A BUNCH THE THE SCOREBOARDS LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A VIABLE OPTION TO REMOVE THOSE AT THIS
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TIME. CORRECT. YEAH, YEAH. I'VE SEEN I TRY TO KEEP COUNT IN HIS HEAD. WE NEED SCOREBOARDS. YOU PROBABLY ACTUALLY DON'T NEED THE SCOREBOARDS SINCE GAME CHANGER KIND OF RULES IT ALL ANYWAY. AND NOBODY ACTUALLY USES THE SCOREBOARDS MOST OF THE TIME IT CAN GET SMART ONES THAT LINKED TO GAME CHANGER. YEAH. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AT BLT IS THEY DON'T LINK TO GAME CHANGER. THEY LINK TO ANOTHER SIMILAR KIND OF KIND OF APP. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THE THIS ADULT WAS FOR, BUT I MEAN, THIS IS ANOTHER ONE. NOBODY ACTUALLY USES SCOREBOARDS AT ANY, AT ANY LEVEL. AND YOU'LL SAVE, YOU'LL SAVE THE LITTLE LEAGUE $20 A TIME FOR THE FOR THE KID THAT'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION PLAYING ON HIS PHONE, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RUNNING THE SCOREBOARD, BUT WE CAN CONSIDER THAT SCOREBOARDS IN OR OUT. WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP THEM IN. KEEP THEM IN. YEAH, I DISLIKE THEM, BUT WE CAN KEEP THEM IN THE OKAY.AND THEN THE, THE PLAY PLACE, THE ADDITIONAL PLAY PLACE, I GUESS. I THINK THE MOUNTAINS LOOK KIND OF COOL, BUT I'M, I'M UP FOR WHATEVER. SO THE EXISTING PLAY THINGS, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, THERE'S JUST THE ONE AT THE SOFTBALL COMPLEX. THERE WOULD BE THE ONE AT SOFTBALL. THERE'S ALSO IN THE BASE BID, YOU SEE THE LARGE TOWER THAT'S LABELED THERE.
THAT IS ALSO IN THE BASE BID. AND THEN WE HAVE A BERM SLIDE THAT THE CURVED WALK THAT GOES UP AND AROUND THAT WOULD HAVE AN EMBANKMENT SLIDE THAT COMES DOWN INTO THAT PLAY ZONE. SO THAT'S ALL IN THE BASE BID. IT'S JUST THE AREAS THAT ARE RENDERED IN GREEN. ON THE BASE BID, IT WOULD JUST BE TURF AND MOUNDS SIMILAR TO THAT LEFT IMAGE. AND THEN THE UPGRADE WOULD BE TO CONVERT THAT TO ACTUAL PLAY STRUCTURES RIGHT. TARGETED FOR A YOUNGER AGE.
CORRECT. THAT'S SMALLER SMALLER TOWERS THAT YOU SEE PICTURED. BUT YES, IT'S GOING TO GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE PLAY VALUE FOR YOUNGER KIDS. I, I KIND OF LIKE THE MOUNDS JUST BECAUSE I GREW UP SOMEWHERE THAT WASN'T FLAT AND ROLLING DOWN A HILL WAS ACTUALLY QUITE FUN. I, AND I, I KNOW THESE, IF IT'S THOSE EXACT PLAYSETS YOU'RE SHOWING, THOSE REALLY AREN'T THAT SUBSTANTIAL TO KEEP KIDS INTERESTED VERY LONG PASS AND BONDS FOR IT TOO. I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GO WITH A CFP LATER ON. YEAH. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALL HAVE COVERS OVER THEM BECAUSE EVERYBODY COMPLAINS THAT THEY WILL GET NUCLEAR HOT. SO I'M WITH CHAD HILLS ARE AWESOME AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY. SO I THINK I THINK IT'S KIND OF COOL TO PUT SOME MOUNDS OUT THERE. I CAN SEE ALL THE KIDS ROLLING DOWN THOSE THINGS. I WOULD HAVE DONE IT WHEN I WAS A KID, BUT AND IT'S AND IT ADDS MORE GREEN SPACE, WHICH IS ALWAYS A PLUS FOR ME. YOU BIKERS LOVE THEM. WE'RE GOING TO PASS AN ORDINANCE AGAINST IN PARKS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S REMOVE THE THE ADDITIONAL PLAY PLACE. AND THIS WAS JUST A SUMMARY IF WE NEEDED I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH ALL THE ALTERNATES. OKAY. SO WE KNOCKED IT OUT. ALL THOSE. SO TO SUMMARIZE, WE WILL REMOVE THE OR WE WILL NOT ACCEPT THE ADDITIONAL PLAY PLACE. WE WILL LOOK INTO HOW THE ADDITIONAL PARKING PLACE AND THE CALDER ROAD EXTENSION OR CALDER ROAD EXIT IS GOING TO IMPACT OUR TOTAL FUNDING. PRIMARILY WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT, RIGHT? THIS IS ALL COMING OUT OF COMING OUT OF THE FOUR B OR THE FOUR B IS GOING TO SUPPORT THE DEBT. SO I WANT TO SEE KIND OF HOW THAT DEBT LAYS OUT OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS, HOW WE'RE SCHEDULING THAT AND WHAT THAT MAKES, YOU KNOW, WHERE THAT PUTS US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE COMING BACK TO FOUR B FOR OTHER PROJECTS. WE GOT OTHER A COUPLE OTHER BIG PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON. SO I DON'T WANT TO JUST COMPLETELY DEPLETE THE FUND RIGHT NOW. I'D LIKE TO LEAVE A LITTLE. I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, LEAVE SOME CUSHION IN THERE FOR THESE OTHER PROJECTS.
SO BRING THAT BACK TO US AND NOT DOING THE, THE EXTRA BATTING CAGES, NOT DOING THE EXTRA BATTING CAGES AND MOVING THE FUNDING FROM THE FOUR B FOR THE TREES TO THE TREE FUND. IF I MAY. YOU'D WANT US TO FUND ALL THE TREES WE CAN FROM THE TREE FUND. YES. EVEN IF EVEN SOME IN THE BASEMENT, IF POSSIBLE. YEAH. I MEAN, LET'S USE THE TREE FUND TO BUY TREES AS OPPOSED TO TAKING OUT DEBT FOR THAT. YEAH. SO THAT'S A GREAT CALL. IT'S A HOW MUCH IS IT A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND. OKAY, I'LL LOOK BACK AT MY FINANCE PEOPLE. THEY ALL JUST BLANK STARES. SO I MIGHT HAVE OVERSTEPPED. BUT SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. ANY FINAL THOUGHTS. SO WHAT. SO I THINK WHAT WE'LL DO IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF GOT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FULL PACKAGE OF EVERYTHING IN AND WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? AND BRING THAT BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND KIND OF GO OVER A FUNDING STRATEGY AND WHAT THAT DOES TO THE FOUR B FUND OVER TIME. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S
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A LOT OF DEBT AND IT DOES RUN THAT FUND PRETTY THIN. AND THERE MAY BE SOME PROJECT TIMING IMPACTS FOR SOME OF THE STUFF WE HAVE PLANNED ON THE CURRENTLY IN THE PLAN. SO THAT SEEM POSSIBLE. AND SHE SHAKES HER HEAD YES. SO AND AND THEN I THINK THAT'S THE PATH FORWARD.OKAY. ARE YOU GOING TO BRING THAT BACK IN THE IN THE REGULAR MEETING OR IN THE. I THINK WE WOULD WORKSHOP. IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ME. I THINK WE. CHAD SAID, YES, WE'RE WE'RE OPEN TO BRING IT BACK. EITHER WAY, IT SHOULD BE PRETTY QUICK DISCUSSION, BUT MAYBE 30 MINUTES. WELL, WE'VE PROGRAMED TIME FOR A WORKSHOP. YEAH, GREAT. SO WE WOULD PLAN THAT AT 5:00 ON IN TWO WEEKS. PERFECT. AND THEN ON IF IT'S JUNE 9TH, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT DATE OR JUNE 10TH, WE WOULD MAKE A DETERMINATION ON HOW MUCH DEBT TO ISSUE AND KIND OF THE PATH FORWARD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT
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