[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
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ALRIGHT, IT'S, UH, SIX O'CLOCK.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH THE ROLL CALL OF THE MEMBERS.
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE, UH, ENOUGH COMMISSIONERS IN ATTENDANCE TO GO AHEAD AND DECLARE QUORUM.
SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT SIX O'CLOCK.
[2. Approval of January 8, 2026 minutes]
OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 8TH, 20, 26 MINUTES.AND WE'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE.
IF THERE ARE NO COMMENTS OR REVISIONS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, REVISIONS? NO.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE TO APPROVE THOSE AS PRESENTED.
NEXT ITEM, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME.
UH, ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION REGARDING ANY ITEM THAT'S NOT ALREADY ON THE AGENDA? UM, BEING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT, UH, AGENDA ITEM, OTHER BUSINESS.
[4. Other Business]
CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON THE ELECTION OF A CHAIRPERSON.SO, UM, MS. MR. MAYS HAS RESIGNED.
UH, I AM THE ACTING CHAIR FOR TONIGHT, BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO ELECT IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN ELECTING SOMEBODY OR PROPOSING SOMEBODY OTHER THAN ME.
UM,
HOW DOES THAT WORK? YES, WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FORMAL VOTE.
AND IN THESE CASES, SINCE THE CHAIR KIND OF CONTROLS THE MEETING AND THE VICE-CHAIR IS AN IMPORTANT POSITION, WE THOUGHT IT BEST TO JUST FORMALIZE IT AND HAVE A VOTE.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT FORTH A NAME AND THEN WE CAN JUST BY A SHOW OF HANDS, HAVE A VOTE ON THAT.
CERTAINLY THERE YOU'VE READ TO DISCUSS IT AND THAT SORT OF THING, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT CERTAINLY I MOVE, WE ELECT FRANK AS CHAIR.
DO WE, DO WE HAVE NO TODAY? HOW DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, NO, NO.
UM, HOW, HOW THAT WAS THE, THE MOTION TO ELECT HIM AS CHAIR CERTAINLY DOES WORK THAT WAY.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE AT THIS POINT OR HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, CERTAIN, UH, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD BE, UH, INTERESTED AND THEN DID, AND DID WE, DID WE HAVE A SECOND? MM-HMM
SO, SO MS. MORRISON NOMINATED AND, UM, BUT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT IF, RIGHT, IF IT DOESN'T FIT
UM, MIGHT BECOME AN ISSUE FOR ME.
I TRAVEL A LOT, UH, ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE WEEKS.
AND SO I, I WOULD HATE TO ACCEPT AND THEN, AND THEN HAVE TO RESIGN THE, THIS POSITION.
UM, SO IS THERE, WITH, WITH THAT IN MIND, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO STEP FORWARD? WELL, I HAVE A, A SUGGESTION, UH, THEN WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, ELECT YOU AS CHAIRPERSON AND THEN ON THOSE RARE OCCASIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO BE GONE, THEN WE'LL HAVE A VICE CHAIRPERSON.
I, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN LIVE WITH THAT.
THAT YOU LOOK, THERE'S SOMEBODY THERE.
AND THEN, UM, SO, UH, IF, IF WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ALL IN FAVOR A AYE OPPOSED ONE? UH, NO, I, I'M, I'M FULL.
UM, SO NEXT WE MOVE ON TO A VICE CHAIRPERSON.
ANY WHO WANTS TO, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO
I WOULD LIKE TO, I SECOND THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, ANY, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
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OKAY.DO YOU KNOW IN ADVANCE WHEN NOT TO
SINCE WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT PIECE OF BUSINESS.
[5. Public Hearing and Action Items]
TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEMS. UM, ITEM A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON A ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION MAP 25 0 0 0 9 LEAGUE CITY PARKWAY AND LEGACY DRIVE TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 7.98, TWO ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.SEVEN TO CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST LAKE, CITY PARKWAY AND WEST OF CONES LANE.
AND SO WE HAVE, UH, THE STAFF HERE TO PRESENT.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, I'M ANN WILLIAMS. I'M A PLANNER IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, WHAT YOU HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS A REZONE REQUEST FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON OUR WEST SIDE OF TOWN, JUST A LITTLE SOUTH OF THE FRIENDSWOOD CITY LIMIT LINES.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RSF SEVEN AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO, WHOOPS, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE IT TO, UM, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
OUR FUTURE LAND USE MAP SHOWS THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS UM, ENHANCED AUTO DOMINANT COMMERCIAL.
AND HERE'S THEIR PROPOSED SITE PLAN, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS THE PROPERTY.
IT IS A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE WEST.
UH, THE REQUEST CONFORMS WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, IT'S CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADJACENT LAND USES AND ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, THIS REQUEST WILL NOT CREATE ANY NONCONFORMITIES AND THE REQUEST ADVANCES THE CITY'S LONG-TERM GOAL OF INCREASING COMMERCIALLY DESIGNATED LAND IN ORDER TO STRENGTHEN THE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL LAND USE BALANCE AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST.
AND UM, WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 0 7.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? PLEASE COME UP AND IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE, FOR THE RECORD, WHAT'S WHAT, IF YOU CAN, WHEN YOU GET A CHANCE TO WRITE YOUR NAME AND, OKAY.
I'M AT SIXTY FIVE TWENTY CONES.
THE AREA WITHIN THE LITTLE ZONE THERE.
UM, I'M OPPOSED TO IT BEING JUST GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN WE MOVED IN IT COULD BE LIGHT COMMERCIAL, THAT IT MIGHT BE THE YOGA PLACE AND YOU KNOW, CACHES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF IT'S ACTUALLY GENERAL COMMERCIAL, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, IT COULD BE A CAR WASH, IT COULD BE A DISCOUNT TIRE, IT COULD BE, SO WHILE I'M CONCERNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE NOISE, I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIGHT.
IF THERE'S A PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW, WITH THOSE LIGHTS AROUND THE PARKING LOT, THAT WOULD BE ON 24 7, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE CITY'S TRYING TO GET MORE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY, BUT TO DO IT RIGHT NEXT TO THAT PARK IS, I DON'T KNOW, JUST A LITTLE INTENSE, BUT I UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S AN EASEMENT THERE AND GENERALLY EVERYTHING WOULD BE STRIPPED OUT AND THE DEVELOPER CAN PLANT, YOU KNOW, 10 OR 20 SMALL TREES THERE.
BUT IF THOSE SCRUB TREES COULD STILL BE KEPT, IT WOULD KIND OF BE A NICE ENVIRONMENT AROUND BOTH, YOU KNOW, LEGACY AND, AND KEEPING SOME SORT OF ZONE FOR THE PARK THERE AS WELL.
I JUST, IT'S GONNA REALLY CHANGE THE PARK AND THAT WHOLE ENVIRONMENT WITH LOTS OF LIGHTS AND LOTS OF UNREGULATED, NOT UNREGULATED, BUT FULL COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT JUST MY CONCERN WOULD BE THE LIGHT AND POSSIBLY THE NOISE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T VOTE FOR FULL COMMERCIAL.
I'D LOVE IT IF IT STAYED ALL WILD, BUT I'M NOT, THAT'S NOT MY INFLUENCE.
THERE WERE OWLS BACK THERE, THERE ARE COYOTES BACK THERE ALL NIGHT LONG RUNNING AROUND, BUT UM, YEAH, JUST THE LIGHT AND THE NOISE.
SO JUST KIND OF, IF WE COULD KEEP THAT IN MIND, IT'D BE APPRECIATED.
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IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? I, AND ONCE AGAIN, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.ALRIGHT, YEAH, I'M STEVEN SCOBEL.
I LIVE, UH, 6 5 2 2 CONES LANE.
SO NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS TO ROBERT AND ALSO RIGHT, UH, BACK UP TO THAT, WHERE THAT DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BE.
AND JUST WANT TO REITERATE EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING ROBERT SAID, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CONCERNS WITH THE NOISE AND LIGHTS.
UH, I WAS ALSO CURIOUS, I DON'T KNOW, I HADN'T SEEN ANY DRAINAGE OR LIKE RETENTION PONDS ON THAT MAP.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE NEEDS TO BE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST A QUESTION I HAVE.
IF THERE ALREADY IS ENOUGH DRAINAGE IN THE LEGACY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT IN TO COVER THAT AREA, UM, JUST DON'T WANT THAT FLOOD.
IF, IF THERE WAS TO BE AN FLOODING ISSUE, YOU KNOW, OUR HOUSE IS RIGHT THERE.
IF THERE IS A RETENTION POND THAT IS GONNA BE PUT IN IT MAYBE WOULD ALSO HELP IF THAT WAS BEHIND OUR PROPERTY LINES TO WHERE IT'S ANOTHER BUFFER JUST FROM COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY, HAVING A, LIKE A RETENTION POND OR SOMETHING.
JUST ANOTHER LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM US.
BUT THAT'S MY INPUT ON THAT AND HOPE YOU GUYS CONSIDER IT.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? HI, MY NAME'S ASHLEY ADAMS. UM, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE AT 6 5 2 4 COES LANE.
AND JUST ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE AND AGREE, AGREE WITH, UM, WHAT THE SCOBEL AND THE OSBOURNES ARE SAYING.
UM, JUST WE'RE NOT AGAINST GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT, BUT CONSIDERING THIS FOR A LIGHT, UM, THIS, THE WORD LIGHT CON, UH, COMMERCIAL, UM, WE FEEL MIGHT REDUCE THE, THE TRAFFIC, THE LATE NIGHT BUSINESS OPERATIONS, UM, THE SOUND AND THE LIGHTING, THE BRIGHTNESS, UM, ALSO KEEPING AN ACCOUNT THAT IT'S RIGHT AT THE END OF A SCHOOL ZONE, WHICH I KNOW COMMERCIAL LOTS OFTEN ARE, BUT THAT'S ALSO, UM, A CONCERN WITH BRINGING IN EXTRA TRAFFIC.
SO OUR, WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE SCRUB TREES BEING LEFT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOVE THE, WE LOVE THAT WE DON'T LOOK INTO A BUSINESS AND PROBABLY WOULD'VE NEVER BOUGHT A HOUSE THERE IF THAT WAS, IF WE KNEW THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, SO.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT SIX 13.
AND DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? I ACTUALLY DO.
UM, CAN YOU ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE, UH, DETENTION POND? SO THIS PROPOSAL, WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A VERY HIGH LEVEL UNOFFICIAL, IT'LL ALL, IF, IF THIS WAS APPROVED AND THE ZONING DOES CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL, THAT WILL ALL BE EVALUATED AND THEY'LL BE HELD TO ALL OF OUR DRAINAGE STANDARDS THAT THE CITY DOES REQUIRE.
SO, OKAY, SO THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE TIED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY THEM? THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEIR OWN CORRECT, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, I CAN'T TELL IF IT'S PLOTTED DIFFERENTLY OR, UH, OR THIS IS JUST THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
HOW, HOW Y'ALL DOING? UH, MATTHEW BROWN, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER, UH, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, THERE ARE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS IN THEIR DRAINAGE AND, AND POND SYSTEM.
THIS IS THE LEGACY DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THIS, THIS AREA, BUT IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE'S A DELTA OR A DIFFERENCE, UH, BETWEEN WHAT'S ACCOMMODATED AND WHAT'S ACTUALLY NEEDED IN THE FORM OF, UH, DRAINAGE AND DETENTION, UH, WHEN THESE PROPERTIES PURSUE THEIR, UH, PERMITS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CITY STAFF WILL BE CLOSELY LOOKING AT TO SEE HOW THEY ACHIEVE THAT DIFFERENCE ON SITE.
AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS THAT THAT CAN HAPPEN.
UM, BUT I, I GUESS TO, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, UM, CITY STAFF WILL BE LOOKING CLOSELY TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL DRAINAGE AND DETENTION REQUIREMENTS ARE ACHIEVED, BUT THERE ARE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE MASTER
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DEVELOPMENT WISE IN THE LEGACY DEVELOPMENT.WHAT ABOUT, WHAT ABOUT FOR THE, UH, SCRUB TREES AS THEY WERE CALLED AND THAT SORT OF THING? IS THAT, IS THERE GONNA BE ANY ACCOMMODATION FOR KEEPING FOLIAGE? SO THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
I'M, UH, WITH BLACK LAND ENGINEERING ON BEHALF OF THE DEVELOPER AND I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE TREES.
SO THE DEVELOPER IS PLANNING TO LEAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE TREES ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE TO KIND OF ACT AS A BUFFER BETWEEN THE HOUSES AND THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE SAME GOES ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AS FAR AS BETWEEN DEVELOPMENT AND THE LAKE THERE.
UM, THEY DID MENTION, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO EVALUATE HOW MANY OF THOSE TREES ARE ACTUALLY VIABLE ONCE THEY START TO CLEAR OUT THE OTHER ONES.
BUT DEFINITELY THE INTENT IS TO LEAVE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, UM, FOR THE TREES.
SO IS THERE A, IS THERE AN EASEMENT THERE OF SOME SORT THAT THESE TREES ARE ON OR, UM, SO NO, THE TREES, IF YOU LOOK, UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT JUST EAST OF THE PROPERTY THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A GREEN STRIP AND MOST OF THAT IS KIND OF A EMPTY AREA.
THERE'S SOME POWER LINES AND PRETTY MUCH JUST GRASS.
SO THAT WILL REMAIN HOW IT IS KIND OF ACTING AS AN ADDITIONAL BUFFER.
AND THEN BEYOND THAT IS WHEN THE TREE LINE STARTS ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THIS AREA? THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
UM, SO THE, WHAT YOU SEE THERE IS KIND OF JUST, AGAIN, HIGH LEVEL, UM, IDEA.
I THINK A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL KIND OF OCCUR IN PHASES AND ESPECIALLY AS LEASE POTENTIAL LEASE HOLDERS ARE BROUGHT IN TO, UM, DEVELOP WITH WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO THERE.
SO NOTHING IS REALLY SOLID YET, ALTHOUGH I DO THINK JUST THE WAY THE LAYOUT WORKS, IT'LL PROBABLY WANT TO PUT STUFF LIKE RESTAURANTS IN, IN THE BACK OF THE, THE PROPERTY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, ANY SORT OF LAKE VIEWS THAT MIGHT BE VISIBLE.
AND PROBABLY RETAIL WILL BE IN THE FRONT SINCE THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT'S DONE ON THESE SORT OF PROPERTIES.
SO THIS IS JUST AN ARTIST RENDERING, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY ACTUAL CORRECT.
THERE'S NO, UH, LIKE SOLID SOLIDIFIED PLANS QUITE YET AS FAR AS POTENTIAL LEASE HOLDERS OR DEVELOPMENTS OR THAT SORT OF THING? I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM THE RESIDENTS.
I DON'T THINK I WOULD WANT TO MY BACKYARD TO BACK UP TO, YOU KNOW, LIGHTS THAT WERE ON 24 7 THAT WOULD GET PRETTY FRUSTRATING, UH, FROM MY OWN JUST EDUCATION.
IS THERE A, IF IT WASN'T GENERAL COMMERCIAL, IS THERE AN INTERMEDIATE KIND OF, UH, DESIGNATION, UH, BETWEEN COM UH, RESIDENTIAL AND GENERAL COMMERCIAL? WE CAN HAPPEN, YEAH, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS IT WITH THEM, BUT ULTIMATELY THE QUESTION WE CAN'T SUPERIMPOSE WHEN THEY ASK FOR A ZONING CHANGE, THE, UH, THE QUESTION BEFORE THE BOARD IS KIND OF LIKE A YES OR A NO, WE CAN'T KIND OF COME BACK AND NEGOTIATE DIFFERENT ZONING CHANGES.
I WILL ALSO, UM, AND I KNOW YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THIS, BUT ONCE YOU APPROVE A ZONING CHANGE, THE EFFECT OF THAT MEANS ANYTHING IN THAT ZONING CHANGE THAT IS CONSIDERED LEGAL, THAT IS PERMITTED IN THERE WOULD BE BY RIGHT.
THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THEIR PLANS AND THEY'RE SHARING SOME DETAILS, BUT AS HE KIND OF POINTED OUT, AND I I DO WANNA POINT OUT TO YOU, THOSE PLANS CAN CHANGE.
AND SO IF THEY CHANGE THEN ANYTHING IN OUR ORDINANCE THAT IS PERMITTED UNDER COMMERCIAL USE COULD BE USED.
NOW WE DO HAVE, UM, DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS IN PLACE.
WE HAVE THINGS THAT ADDRESS STREET LIGHTING, WE HAVE THINGS THAT DO DO THAT SORT OF THING NATURE, BUT IF IT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT THEN AS LONG AS THEY COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO IT.
AND LEGALLY WE CAN'T KIND OF PROHIBIT THEM BECAUSE OF ISSUES RELATED TO TAKINGS AND PROPERTY RIGHTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THE DECISION BEFORE TODAY IS YOU WANNA ALLOW THIS CHANGE IN THE, UM, ZONING CATEGORY TO COMMERCIAL AND IF IT DOES, THEN THAT MEANS IF THEY DE IF THEY SELL THE PROPERTY AND DECIDE TO DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, ANYTHING ALLOWED UNDER THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED, SO, CORRECT.
MICHELLE, CAN I ADD A COUPLE OTHER ITEMS I THINK I CAN ADDRESS, UM, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE LIGHT? I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING A COUPLE PEOPLE SHARED.
SO IF THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, DOES GO THROUGH THE, THE PLAN IS FOR THIS WHOLE TRACK TO BE, UM, BASICALLY BROUGHT INTO THE LEGACY PUD MUNICIPAL UTILITY DISTRICT AND THAT WILL MEAN THAT IT HAS TO ABIDE BY ALL THE COVENANTS RESTRICTIONS AND, AND SORT OF GUIDELINES THAT ARE IN PLACE THAT INCLUDE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE YOUR LIGHTING IS,
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IS NOT A NUISANCE, THAT THERE'S, UM, GUIDELINES IN PLACE AS FAR AS SHIELDING ON THE LIGHT FIXTURES THEMSELVES THAT WILL HELP TO REDUCE ANY LIGHT POLLUTION.AND THEN SAME GOES FOR THINGS LIKE HOW THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES LOOK AS FAR AS BUILDING HEIGHTS AND UM, REALLY OVERALL OPERATION THERE.
I KNOW A LOT OF TIMES THERE'S EVEN NOISE CONTROL, UM, POLICIES AND THESE SORT OF COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS.
SO THE SITE WILL DEFINITELY BE SUBJECT TO THOSE.
AND THEN I THINK IT'S ALSO WORTH MENTIONING AS FAR AS POTENTIAL USES, AND I GUESS YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE EVEN IF IT IS APPROVED AS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, THERE'S STILL SOME SORT OF USES THAT THEY HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
UM, TO PURSUE PARTICULAR USES.
I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE A FULL LIST OF THOSE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT JUST ANYTHING GOES AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? YES, BUT AND FRANK, YES, PAM? YEAH, I, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT THAT, UM, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE, UM, THE RESIDENTS TO THE EAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, BOUGHT THEIR HOMES KNOWING THAT, UH, THE PROPERTY TO THEIR WEST WAS, UH, ZONED RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN FOR THE CITY TO, UH, SWITCH ZONING AFTER THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT THEIR HOMES AND LIVE THERE, I THINK IS WRONG.
AND SO I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW WHY ANYONE DO, UM, CAN WE SEE THE LEGACY, THE PUT RULES, UM, REQUEST THAT, UM, I DON'T HAVE THESE WITH ME.
WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UM, AND, AND KIND OF PROVIDE THAT.
I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF YOU WANT, WHAT YOU CAN DO IS WE CAN VOTE IT UP OR VOTE IT DOWN AND THEN YOU, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION, WE CAN KIND OF PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.
BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE OF PUBLIC HEARING REQUIREMENTS, AND MARK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK WE ACTUALLY NEED A DECISION FROM THE BOARD TONIGHT ON THIS.
I DUNNO IF WE HAVE THOSE PULLED UP RIGHT NOW AND I HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE, THOSE, UH, POD DOCUMENTS ARE QUITE EXTENSIVE, SO I'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S, WHEN IT SPEAKS TO ISSUES LIKE LIGHTING AND NUISANCE, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE 'CAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY LIKE SPECIAL SPECIAL RULES FOR THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MARK.
SO YEAH, THE, SO WITH PUDS IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
WE HAVE OUR KIND OF WHAT WE CALL OUR BASE REGULATIONS BASED ON THE ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THEN THE PUD ACTUALLY OUTLINES CERTAIN CONDITIONS, UM, MOSTLY WITH, UM, DEALING WITH RESIDENTIAL TYPE ASPECTS.
UM, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE AREN'T ANY SORT OF LIKE CONDI COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS FOR THE COMMERCIAL SIDE BECAUSE THAT WILL COME LATER WHEN THE COMMERCIAL COMES ON BOARD.
CERTAINLY IF THIS SOMETHING THIS GOES FORWARD AND THEY WANT TO SEEK, UM, TO COME INTO KIND OF THE, THE FOLD WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LEGACY, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM AND THE LEGACY PUD UH, DEVELOPERS, UH, ABOUT CREATING THOSE AND HAVING THOSE IN PLACE AT THE TIME THAT A PERMIT'S ISSUED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN CONFORMANCE.
UM, BUT LIKE AS MENTIONED BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPTUAL IS WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEKING THE RE THE REZONING FIRST AND THEY WANT TO GET CONFIRMATION THAT THEY CAN GET REZONING AND THEN THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF BOTH THE P IF THEY JOIN AS WELL AS THE FULL, UH, CODE OF ORDINANCES WILL COME AND PLAY LIGHTING, PARKING, TRAFFIC CONTROL, DRAINAGE, UH, LANDSCAPING, ALL OF THAT WILL COME INTO THAT AT A FURTHER, UH, LATER DATE UPON DEVELOPMENT.
SEEMS ALMOST BACKWARDS TO ME, BUT, WELL, THE DIFFICULTY IS, ESPECIALLY AT THIS POINT, WE'RE KIND OF AT THE FRONT END OF THE PROGRESS.
AND SO A LOT OF APPLICANTS DON'T WANT TO, TO PUT OUT A LOT OF MONEY NOT KNOWING IF THEY'RE GONNA, BECAUSE THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT A, A REQUEST IS GOING TO BE MADE.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE CONCERN COMES IN, IS THAT UNTIL THEY CAN BE GUARANTEED THAT THE ZONING IS CHANGED, THAT'S WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF HESITANCY TO PUT IN A LOT OF FINANCIAL THAT I, I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, IS LIKE YOURS THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST THAT COULD BE APPROVED IN GENERAL COMMERCIAL, I MEAN A PRODUCTION FACILITY, YOU KNOW, IS THERE OR AROUND THE CLOCK WHERE, SO IF, YOU KNOW, FOR ME THE CONCERN IS IT'S SO BROAD AS TO WHAT COULD BE THERE.
AND, AND THAT'S WHERE, YOU KNOW, STATE LAW BASICALLY SAYS WE CAN'T, UNLIKE SUVS YOU CAN PUT CONDITIONS WITH STATE LAW.
IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN UP OR DOWN VOTE.
UM, BUT WE STILL DO APPLY THOSE REGULATIONS OF THE UDC.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE, UM, TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN USES REQUIRE
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TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT AND THAT'S WHERE THAT ALLOWS US TO FOUR A INTO THAT ADDITIONAL KIND OF REGULATIONS.WHAT DOES THE TRAFFIC IMPACT SAY ABOUT THIS USE AT THIS LOCATION ON THIS PROPERTY? AND THEN WE CAN APPLY THOSE REGULATIONS TO THAT.
USUALLY WHAT'S HAPPENS IS YOU START WITH A, A LARGER VIEW LIKE ZONING AND THEN YOU START DRILLING DOWN TO THE INDIVIDUAL USAGE.
SO FIRST YOU SAY WE'RE EVEN CONCEPTUALLY GONNA ALLOW THESE POTENTIAL LIST OF THINGS.
AND THEN IF YOU, IF THAT'S APPROVED BY YOU OR BY COUNSEL, THEN AT THAT POINT THEY, THEY DRILL DOWN TO THE SPECIFIC USE IF THEY WANT A CAR LOT, IF THEY WANT SOMETHING ELSE.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT WE LOOK AT THOSE REGULATIONS AND WE KIND OF CROSS CHECK WITH WHAT'S IN THE PUD, WHAT DID WE SPECIFICALLY SAY AND WHAT'S NEVER NOT ADDRESSED IN THE PUD.
THEN WE LOOK INTO THE INDIVIDUAL DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS THAT WE HAVE.
SO IT KIND OF STARTS VERY BROAD VIEW AND IT NARROWS AS THEY KIND OF PROVIDE MORE SPECIFICITY TO THEIR PLANS.
AND THEN TOWARD THE END, ONCE THEY START KIND OF NARROWING DOWN WHAT THEY WANNA DO, AT THAT POINT, THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED ANSWERING QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING? WHAT ABOUT THE LIGHTING? WE'RE NOT QUITE AT THERE YET.
WE'RE STILL AT THE, THE LARGER VIEW WE NEED TO DRILL DOWN FIRST.
SO THIS IS KINDA LIKE THE FIRST STEP.
DOES IT COME BACK TO US WHENEVER THEY NARROW IT DOWN? UH, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
SOME THINGS, SOME THINGS REQUIRE AN SUP AND IN THAT CASE WE WOULD PROBABLY GET A RECOMMENDATION.
SOME THINGS DO NOT, IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THE USE IS.
AND LIKE I SAID, SOME THINGS THEY MAY WANT TO ASK A VARIANCE FOR THINGS OR LIKE A, A TWEAK TO ONE OF OUR THINGS AND IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD GO TO THE ZONING BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS PROBABLY.
OR IT COULD COME BACK IF IT'S A, UM, SURE IF IT'S A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE, IT WOULDN'T COME BACK BEFORE THIS.
SO LIKE I SAID, IT'S LIKE THIS IS THE LARGER VIEW OF WHAT'S POSSIBLE AND THEN IT SLOWLY DRILLS DOWN UNTIL YOU GET A VERY SPECIFIC PROJECT ON THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
WHAT COULDN'T WE DO IT THE OTHER WAY? WE DON'T WANT GENERAL NEWS TO VOTED DOWN TO COME BACK WITH AN SUP AND SAY, CAN WE PUT THIS BUSINESS HERE? UM, WE USUALLY DON'T.
IT'S BECAUSE USUALLY THEY WON'T EVEN ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT OF DOING AN SUP WITHOUT KNOWING IF THEY CAN LEGALLY PUT ANY PROJECT THERE.
THAT'S WHY ZONING IS THE FIRST STEP.
'CAUSE ONCE YOU HIT ZONING, THEN YOU START TRIGGERING THINGS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD OF IT, KINDA LIKE VESTING RIGHTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO THEY DON'T WANT TO INVEST MONEY INTO DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY BEFORE THEY KNOW THAT THEY EVEN WANT TO.
IT'S EVEN LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.
RIGHT NOW IT IS NOT LEGALLY POSSIBLE TO PUT THE PROJECT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL PROJECT ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S ZONED RESIDENTIAL SO THEY CAN'T DO IT, WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T GET FUNDING, THEY CAN'T DO THAT SORT OF THING.
SO FIRST THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BEFORE ANY INVESTOR WILL CONSIDER WORKING WITH THEM.
A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, WE'RE REFERENCING PHASE ONE, CORRECT? UH, YES, THAT'S THE EIGHT ACRES PHASE TWO.
DO Y'ALL, ARE Y'ALL, I GUESS IN YOUR OPTION PERIOD TO PURCHASE IT, DO Y'ALL OWN THAT? WHAT IS, WHERE DOES THE LAND'S STATUS AT THIS POINT? SO PHASE TWO, THAT PIECE OF LAND THERE IS ABOUT FOUR ACRES IS CURRENTLY OWNED, I BELIEVE BY THE SAME DEVELOPER WHO DID THE REST OF THE LEGACY SUBDIVISION.
AND THERE I THINK THERE'S SOME SORT OF DEAL BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER WHO I'M REPRESENTING AND THE LEGACY DEVELOPER TO AT SOME POINT SELL THAT, UM, PHASE TWO LAND TO BE PART OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AS YOU SEE KIND OF.
SO IT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONE, UM, CONTINUOUS DEVELOPMENT THERE OBVIOUSLY THAT IF THIS FIRST PART DOESN'T GO THROUGH, THEN THAT KIND OF WOULD FALL APART.
BUT THAT IS THE PLAN CURRENTLY.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT REALLY QUICKLY? I LOVE CAN CAN YOU, CAN YOU, UM, YEAH, IF YOU CAN COME UP.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING.
THEY'RE VERY ATTRACTED BUILDINGS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'D BE WITHIN THE STANDARDS OF LEGACY'S BUILDING CODE OR WHATEVER, BUT I DON'T WANT ONE RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
I'D BE OVER THERE ALL THE TIME.
SO THERE'S A WEIGHT GAIN PROBLEM.
IT, IT, IT'D BE A BUNCH OF PROBLEMS. THERE'D BE GARBAGE, THERE'D BE GARBAGE TRUCKS, THERE'D BE RATS, THERE'D BE NOISE.
AND IF IT'S COMPLETELY, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT'S GONNA BE AND WE'RE TOTALLY IN PHASE ONE, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR VOTE.
YOU HAD A QUESTION I GUESS OR COMMENT.
UH, IF THIS WERE TO BE VOTED DOWN TODAY, CAN, CAN AN APPLICANT REVOTE OR COME BACK AT ANOTHER TIME WITH A LIGHT COMMERCIAL, I BELIEVE, UH, APPLICATION WITH RE RESTRICTIONS AND THEN ALSO SO, OR GO AHEAD.
WELL I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU.
UM, BUT, BUT BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS, UM, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BOARD.
OKAY? AND SO THEY WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION
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TO COUNCIL.AND SO IF THE BOARD APPROVES THAT, IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL WHO'S THE ULTIMATE DECIDER ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
AND THE COUNCIL IS THE ONE WHO VOTES IT UP OR VOTES IT DOWN.
IF THESE PEOPLE VOTED IT DOWN, THEN IT GOES TO CITY COUNCIL AND YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AGAIN, ADDRESS THE ACTUAL DECIDERS.
THIS IS BASICALLY A RECOMMENDATION BOARD FOR THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
IT'S JUST REALLY A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S NOT A, THE REAL DECIDERS ARE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN IF THAT GETS VOTED DOWN, CAN THEY REAPPLY IN LIKE A YEAR OR TWO OR, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT OUR, IS THERE A, IT'S A ONE YEAR HOLD OFF.
UH, I PREFER TO HOLD OFF AND THEN, BUT I'M, I'M A RESIDENT BUT THAT I WOULD PREFER THE COUNCIL TO HOLD OFF FOR A LATER TIME, UH, AND RECONSIDER MAYBE A LIGHT DUTY, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING I'D LIKE JUST MENTION TO Y'ALL IS FARTHER DOWN LAKE CITY PARK WHERE THERE'S ALREADY, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT'S NOT DEVELOPED YET.
SO IN MY MIND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE OUT OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN OUR AREA AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO WHERE THIS IS THE LAST THING THAT NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED OR SOMETHING.
SO, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE WE NEED MORE UNDEVELOPED COMMERCIAL ZONED PROPERTY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORHOOD YET.
SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN MY OPINION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, UM, WE'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
MICHELLE, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UH, IN THE MOTION HAS TO, CAN THE MOTION BE TO DENY OR DO WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE AND THEN EVERYBODY TO WHICH THE PREFERENCE TO YES.
THE PREFERENCE IS TO DO IT IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
SO EVEN IF YOU INTEND DO BOTH THE OTHER WAY, IT'S BEST TO DO IT THAT WAY.
IF IT FAILS, THAT ISSUE FAILS.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT, UM, WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THE CHANGE OF ZONING ON MAP 25 DASH NINE TO REZONE FROM R SF SEVEN TO COMMERCIAL, UH, GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
UH, ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IF NOT, UM, WE WILL CALL THE QUESTION.
SO FIVE AGAINST THE ONE FOUR, THE MOTION FAILS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR NO? ALRIGHT.
UM, ONTO ITEM B HOLD, UH, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON A ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION MAP 25 0 0 1 10 31 43 WEST FM FIVE 17 TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 54.656 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF FARM TO MARKET ROAD FIVE 17 WEST OF MCFARLAND ROAD AND EAST OF MY ROAD WITH THE ADDRESS OF 31 43 WEST FARM TO MARKET ROAD.
YOU'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN? I'LL DO IT AGAIN.
SO THIS UH, REQUEST IS A REZONE REQUEST.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS ON OUR FAR WEST SIDE OF TOWN AT, UM, RIGHT BEFORE FIVE 17 CURVES IN ALVIN.
UM, CURRENTLY IT'S ZONED RSF SEVEN AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO ZONE REZONE TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL.
UM, OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN BASED ON THE WEST SIDE MASTER PLAN SHOWS THIS PROPERTY AS INDUSTRIAL WITH A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, OPEN SPACE TOWARD THE NORTHERN PORTION OF IT.
UM, THIS IS THE SURVEY, IT'S A REALLY BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO THE REQUEST DOES CONFORM WITH THE WEST SIDE MASTER PLAN, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, THE REQUEST SUPPORTS THE CITY'S STATED GOAL IN THE WEST SIDE MASTER PLAN TO DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE AND SHIFT TOWARDS A MORE BALANCED 60 40 MIX OF RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE DESIRED USES ALONG THE FIVE 17 CORRIDOR.
UM, AS THE SITE DEVELOPS, LANDSCAPE BUFFER YARDS MUST BE PROVIDED TO MITIGATE IMPACTS ON THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND
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THIS REQUEST WOULD NOT CREATE ANY NON-CONFORMANCES AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.UM, WITH THAT WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 35.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM? THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 35.
AND THEN, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? UH, YES.
COULD YOU PUT THE, UM, NOT NOT, NOT THE PLAT, BUT THE ACTUAL MAP WITH THE OVERLAY OF THERE.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO THIS IS LIGHT COMMERCIAL AND I REALLY DON'T SEE BUT MAYBE ONE RESIDENCE THERE THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND UM, AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT'S RIGHT THERE TO THE EAST IS ACTUALLY A VACANT, ABANDONED HOME, IS IT? AND, AND SO, UH, IN YOUR NOTIFICATION PROCESS, UM, UH, I DON'T GUESS YOU HAD ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I GUESS ALSO, DO WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS IN INDUSTRIAL? THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN US ANY PROPOSALS.
A LITTLE BIT OF TALK ABOUT POSSIBLE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, MAYBE LIGHT MANUFACTURING, A BEST SITE, BUT NOTHING CONCRETE AT THIS POINT.
DID YOU SAY A BEST SITE THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS THROWN AROUND THAT IS A POSSIBILITY IN THIS AREA.
WHAT ABOUT THE BATTERY SITE? SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT ABANDONED RESIDENCE AND NOTHING ELSE OUT THERE IS RESIDENTIAL? I MEAN THERE'S NO HOMES.
I BELIEVE THAT IT'S STILL ZONED RESIDENTIAL, BUT UM, THERE ARE NOT ANY, EVERYTHING TO THE EAST IS, UH, THE NURSERY THAT'S OUT THERE, THE PLANT NURSERY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER.
AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS IS UM, AN INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT THEY USE, I BELIEVE THE POWER COMPANY USES FOR ACCESS TO THAT POWER CORRIDOR THAT RUNS THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD CALL FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE, UM, RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE ON APPLICATION MAP 25 DASH 0 0 1 0 TO REZONE THAT 54.656 ACRES FROM RSF SEVEN TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL IL, UH, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, THEN WE'LL CALL FOR A, FOR A VOTE.
UH, THOSE OPPOSED? SO THE MOTION PASSES.
ITEM C HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON ITS ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION P 25 0 0 0 2 DUNCAN PUD AMENDMENT TO ALLOW OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG THE IRVIN STREET RIGHT OF WAY, LOCATED IN THE ONE POINT OR 1747.4 ACRE DUNCAN POD.
GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST FARM TO MARKET ROAD FIVE 17 SOUTH OF LEAGUE CITY PARKWAY AND WEST OF CALDER DRIVE.
I'M A SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY.
UM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS PROJECT.
THIS IS THE DUNCAN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THIS PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE SAMARA B DEMAR AND PETAL SUBDIVISIONS.
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LEFT YOU HAVE THE AERIAL TO THE RIGHT, YOU HAVE THE LATEST APPROVED MASTER PLAN.UM, THIS PUD WAS INITIALLY ADOPTED IN 2019 AND IT WAS SLIGHTLY MODIFIED OR AMENDED IN 2023 TO ADDRESS, UM, SOME ISSUES WITH LOT SIZES.
THIS SPECIFIC PUD AMENDMENT IS REGARDING A REQUEST TO ALLOW THREE PHASE OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG IRVIN STREET, UM, WHICH THAT IS THE STREET THAT RUNS EAST TO WEST, UM, KIND OF BISECTING THE DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN SEE IT, UM, ON THE NORTHERN, IT MAKES ALMOST A U SHAPE.
UM, AND THESE POWER POLES THAT ARE PROPOSED WILL BE CONSTRUCTED OF CONCRETE.
UM, ONE OF THE COMPENSATING BENEFITS THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPER HAS OFFERED, UM, AN EXCHANGE FOR ALLOWING OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG URBAN STREET IS THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL, UM, CONSTRUCT THE REMAINING TWO LANES OF HOBBES ROAD FROM URBAN STREET, UM, TO BUCKEYE DRIVE TO THE SOUTH.
UM, AND THE DUNCAN PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DOES FEED INTO THE, UH, TO HOBBS ROAD.
UM, SO IT WOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
SO STAFF'S FINDINGS ARE AS FOLLOWED.
UM, THE PROPOSED REQUEST WILL NOT IMPACT ANY LAND USE ZONING NUMBER OF PROPOSED LOTS.
UM, ANYTHING WITH THE FLOOD PLAIN OR THE OVERALL DUNKIN MASTER PLAN AT THE MOMENT.
UM, THE AMENDED PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES THE LANGUAGE THAT WILL REQUIRE THE DEVELOPER TO CONSTRUCT THE REMAINING TWO LANES OF HOBBS ROAD FROM IRVIN STREET.
UM, IT'S TO BUCKEYE DRIVE PER THE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY, ALLOWING THOSE OVERHEAD LINES ALONG IRVIN STREET WILL, UM, BE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING OVERHEAD FACILITIES TO THE EAST OF URBAN STREET, UM, AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST.
UM, AND JUST SOMETHING ELSE TO NOTE THAT OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG ARTERIAL TYPE ROADWAYS, WHICH IS THE TYPE OF ROADWAY URBAN STREET IS PERMITTED THROUGHOUT LAKE CITY.
UM, FOR EXAMPLE, OVERHEAD LINES ARE PRESENT ALONG ARTERIALS SUCH AS CALDER ROAD, HOBBS ROAD AND LAKE CITY PARKWAY.
THAT WAS JUST LANGUAGE THAT WAS PUT IN THE INITIAL P THAT FURTHER RESTRICTED THEM FROM OUR EXISTING REQUIREMENTS.
SO ALLOWING THEM TO HAVE OVERHEAD LINES ALONG IRVIN WOULDN'T BE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE CITY.
UM, AND WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS PD AMENDMENT.
UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 42.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? THERE'S NO ONE HERE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 42.
AND DOES ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? YES, I DO.
UM, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE HAD A DEVELOPER HERE WHO WAS WANTING TO PUT OVERHEADS, UH, AT THE ENTRANCE TO HIS SUBDIVISION ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN.
AND, UM, WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT PROHIBITS THIS, AND HE WAS ASKING FOR A VARIANCE AND WE TURNED HIS REQUEST DOWN.
AND SO KNOWING THAT WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS OVERHEAD POWER LINES, UH, WHAT AM I MISSING HERE? WHY IS STAFF RECOMMENDING THIS? SO OUR ORDINANCE ACTUALLY ALLOWS OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG ARTERIAL STREETS.
UM, THAT PREVIOUS REQUEST, AND MARK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WAS REQUESTING OVERHEAD POWER LINES ON A ROAD THAT WAS NOT AN ARTERIAL.
SO OUR ORDINANCE ALLOWS THAT BY, RIGHT.
UM, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY, WHEN THIS P WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN, IT FURTHER RESTRICTED THEMSELVES FROM OUR ORDINANCE.
SO THEY IMPOSED STRICTER REGULATIONS THAN OUR UM, UDC HAS.
UM, SO NOW THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO COME BACK INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE REGULATIONS.
SO WHY DO THEY NEED TO THIS REQUEST THEN? IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S ALREADY, UH, ALLOWED IN ARTERIAL STREETS, WHY DID THEY EVEN NEED TO REQUEST THIS? SO THEY WROTE LANGUAGE IN THEIR P THAT SAID THEY CANNOT HAVE ANY OVERHEAD POWER LINES ON AN ARTERIAL.
AND BECAUSE THAT LANGUAGE IS IN THE PUD EXPLICITLY SAYING YOU CANNOT HAVE OVERHEAD POWER LINES MM-HMM
AND EXCEPT ON THE PERIMETER, THEY'RE HAVING TO AMEND THAT DOCUMENT THAT GIVES THEM LANGUAGE THAT LETS THEM HAVE OVERHEAD POWER LINES ALONG ARTERIALS, WHICH IS ALLOWED PER OUR UDC.
THEY JUST PUT SOME RESTRICTIONS IN PLACE WITH THAT ORIGINAL PUD IN 2019 THAT RESTRICTED THAT INITIALLY.
AND THAT'S UNDER OUR PURVIEW, NOT THERE.
THEIR PUD DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO CHANGE IT.
UM, SO THIS IS SPECIFICALLY JUST CHANGING THE PUD TO MATCH OUR, OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.
SO OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS RIGHT NOW SAY THAT OVERHEAD POWER LINES ARE PERMITTED
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ALONG THE PERIMETER OF MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS AND ARTERIAL UM, ROADWAYS.AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE, UM, REGULATED WITHIN OUR UDC.
I KNOW THIS MIGHT EVEN, THIS ISN'T A PLANNING AND ZONING QUESTION, I BE, BUT I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE DOING THAT SO THAT WE COULD HANDLE A FEW PROBLEMS WITH OVERHEAD POWER LINES, WITH FREEZING AND HURRICANES.
AND THERE WERE REASONS WHY WE WERE TRYING TO GET NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO BURY THE POWER LINES BECAUSE THERE ARE REASONS IN THIS AREA THAT WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
SO WE THOUGHT NEW DEVELOPMENTS NEEDED TO, TO DO THESE, BUT WE KEEP BRINGING THEM BACK TO ASKING US NOT TO DO THAT.
IS THAT NOT A PART OF OUR PLAN? IS IT SO EXPENSIVE? WHY, WHY, WHY DO WE KEEP GETTING THIS QUESTION? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS FROM CONVERSATIONS THAT THE DEVELOPER IS HAVING WITH, UM, THE ENERGY PROVIDER IN THE AREA.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY THERE ARE EXISTING OVERHEAD POWER LINES JUST TO THE EAST ON IRVING.
SO THEY WOULD BE CONTINUING THOSE EXISTING POWER LINES AS OPPOSED TO CREATING NEW POWER LINE OVERHEAD POWER LINES, UH, OVERHEAD POWER LINES IN AN AREA THAT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY AT.
SO IT, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS IS COMING FROM CONVERSATIONS WITH CENTERPOINT, UM, WHO PROVIDES THE ENERGY AND THE POWER IN THIS AREA.
BUT YOU DID SAY, IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK TO CLEAR SOME CONFUSION.
WHEN THE PUD IS CREATED, IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF ZONING, BUT THERE'S A PUD DOCUMENT THAT WE REFERENCED, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LEGACY THAT IS INCLUDED WITH THE ORDINANCE AND BECOMES ENFORCEABLE AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO IN ORDER TO CHANGE IT, WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THE CHANGE.
SO I WAS THINKING LIKE THE PUD BOARD WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
NO, BECAUSE BECAUSE THE PUD IS PART OF THE, THE PUD DOCUMENT IS PART OF THE ZONING, THEN THAT BECOMES A PART OF THE ORDINANCE AND IS ENFORCEABLE AS THE ORDINANCE SIMILAR TO THE UDC.
AND YOU DID SAY THE POWER LINES WERE GONNA BE, UH, CONCRETE POLES, CORRECT? YES.
THE LANGUAGE IN IT HAS, UM, WRITTEN AS CONCRETE AND LESS OTHERWISE PERMITTED BY THE EXECUTIVE DEVELOPER OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO IN SOME UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCE AND OTHER MATERIALS NEEDED ONLY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPERS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS ALLOWED, UM, TO PERMIT THAT.
I HAVE, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
UM, SO I GET THAT IT'S CONSISTENT DOWN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE ALLOWED ON ARTERIAL.
UM, ARE, UM, THE, ARE THERE HOUSES THAT ARE BACKING UP TO THESE POWER LINES? SO THERE ARE NO HOMES THAT HAVE ANY DIRECT ACCESS ON, ON IRVIN STREET.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT OFFSET IS FROM URBAN STREET TO THE NEAREST HOUSE.
UM, BUT NO, NO HOMES WILL BE DIRECTLY, UM, TAKING ACCESS OR ANYTHING OFF OF URBAN STREET, BUT THEY COULD BE IN THEIR BACKYARD.
UH, THEY WOULDN'T BE PLACED IN THE BACKYARD.
THEY WOULD BE PLACED WITHIN THE RIDE OF WAY, UM, OR WITHIN SOME SORT OF EASEMENT.
SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY NOTIFICATIONS GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS REGARDING THIS CHANGE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, IT'S EXEMPT FROM THAT.
SO, UH, ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE DUNCAN TRACT, WHICH YOU CAN SEE THE NOTICE BUFFER HERE, INCLUDES EVERYONE WITHIN THE DUNCAN DEVELOPMENT DID GET NOTICE, UM, THAT THIS WAS A REQUESTED AMENDMENT.
UM, AND THEY DID RECEIVE, UM, THE EXHIBIT.
AND DID THEY RECEIVE A NOTICE THAT THEY THAT WOULD BE UP ON THE MEETING TONIGHT? YES, AND WE DID INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT POWER LINES OF COURSE WOULD BE ALONG URBAN STREET.
UM, SO PRETTY MUCH THE LANGUAGE AS WRITTEN, WELL, OOPS, SORRY I WENT THE WRONG WAY.
PRETTY MUCH, UH, THIS LANGUAGE TWEAKED SLIGHTLY IS WHAT THEY SEE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFORMATION.
UM, I RECEIVED A FEW JUST INQUISITIVE PHONE CALLS LIKE ASKING WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY, UM, POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE UH, COMMUNICATIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KAITLYN OR STAFF? IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT, UM, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION, PUD 25 DASH 0 0 0 2 DUNCAN PUD AMENDMENT TO ALLOW THE OVERHEAD POWER LINES ON IRVIN STREET.
AND DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, MS. ARNOLD, THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
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ONTO ITEM D, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUP 25 0 1 4 ANCHOR BAY TO ALLOW A VIEW A VEHICLE FUELING STATION USE ON APPROXIMATELY 2.97 ACRES.ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF SOUTH EGRET BAY BOULEVARD, FM TWO 70 AND AUSTIN STREET AGAIN, CALY? YES.
SO THE, UM, THIS PROPERTY AS MENTIONED IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF EG EGRET BAY BOULEVARD AND AUSTIN STREET, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT ACRES, UM, IN AREA AND IT IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT IS ZONED RES UH, RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY 1.2 AND IT IS THE HIGH BRIDGE AT EGRET BAY APARTMENT COMPLEX AND LOCATED TO THE EAST OF THE TRACT.
UM, IT'S SOME R-F-R-S-F 10, WHICH IS OUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, UM, 10 ZONING DISTRICT.
TAKING A CLOSER LOOK AT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UM, THIS WOULD BE A GAS STATION WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE.
UM, BUT IT ADDITIONALLY HAS SOME RETAIL SHELL THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED ALONGSIDE, UM, THE GAS STATION AND CONVENIENCE STORE.
THERE ARE FIVE FUELING PUMPS, WHICH, I'M SORRY, FIVE FUELING STATIONS, WHICH WOULD BE 10 FUELING PUMPS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UM, AN EV CHARGING STATION AND THEY'LL HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR ON SITE.
WHAT YOU SEE NOW IS THE LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THE SUP.
UM, AN ADEQUATE LANDSCAPING IS PROVIDED.
YOU'LL NOTICE TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THOSE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THERE IS A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
AND TO THE EAST, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS, THERE'S A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
UM, NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATIONS, UM, AND THE ELEVATIONS ARE PRIMARILY COMPOSED OF, UM, STUCCO CONCRETE, UH, CONCRETE MASONRY STONES, VENEER AND METAL PANELING.
AND THEN MOVING FORWARD, THE OTHER FACES OF THE ELEVATIONS, AGAIN, THIS COMPRISED OF SIMILAR MATERIALS AND HERE WE HAVE SOME JUST GENERAL RENDERINGS OF WHAT THE SITE WOULD LOOK LIKE, ANOTHER VIEW OF THOSE RENDERINGS.
AND THEN HERE ARE THE CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOES EXPIRE, UM, AFTER, UH, I BELIEVE 24 MONTHS WITHOUT ANY ACTIVITY.
UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A GENERATOR ON SITE.
IN THE EVENT OF ANY EXTREME EVENTS SUCH AS A HURRICANE, THEY'RE STILL ABLE TO PROVIDE GAS TO THOSE THAT HAVE, UM, GENERATORS THAT THEY NEED FUEL FOR.
THE LIMITED ONSITE USES WOULD BE BASED ON THE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND WHAT IS PERMITTED BY THE SUP, WHICH IS THAT GAS STATION.
THE SITE LAYOUT SHALL BE SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT IS DISPLAYED ON THE SITE PLAN AND ELEVATIONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY.
THE FUELING CANOPY ARCHITECTURE HAS TO MATCH THAT, UM, OF THE PRIMARY BUILDING.
SO IT HAS TO BE A COHESIVE DESIGN.
THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE HAS TO BE PROPERLY SCREENED.
UM, THERE'LL BE ONE FREESTANDING SIGN PERMITTED PER, UM, STREET FRONTAGE.
AND, UM, ANY CANOPY SIGNAGE THAT'S PERMITTED, UM, ON THE FUELING CANOPY WILL BE COUNTED TOWARDS THE OVERALL SIGNAGE ALLOWED ON THE BUILDING.
SO WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, THE STAFF'S FINDINGS ARE THAT THE EXISTING SITE CONFORMS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
THE EXISTING SITE PLAN DOES HAVE DIRECT ACCESS ONTO SOUTH EGRET BAY AND AUSTIN STREET.
THE SITE DOES PROVIDE AN ENHANCED STANDARD SUCH AS THAT BACKUP GENERATOR TO ENSURE THAT THE GAS STATION IS FUNCTIONAL IN THE EVENT OF AN EXTREME EVENT.
AND THE SITE PROPOSES ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS THAT INCLUDE THAT ELECTRICAL VEHICLE, CHARGING STATIONS, MASONRY COLUMNS ON THE FUELING CANOPIES AND A LANDSCAPING BERM ALONG ROADWAY FRONTAGES.
AND THEN WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, APPROVAL OF THE SUP WITH THOSE LISTED CONDITIONS.
UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 54.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS? WE HAVE ONE.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 0 9 RED RIVER.
MY SUBDIVISION BACKS RIGHT UP TO THE HIGHBRIDGE TOWER AND THAT GAS STATION.
UM, EVER SINCE THEY PUT IN THE HIGHBRIDGE TOWER
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APARTMENT COMPLEX, I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS WITH SNAKES, RATS ROAD, UM, LIVE ANIMALS LIKE COYOTES AND STUFF.THEY WALK DOWN THE MIDDLE OF OUR STREET BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN DISPLACED BECAUSE HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH BUILDING THAT WE NEED TO DO ON THE LEAGUE CITY PROPERTIES TO KEEP WILDLIFE FROM INVADING OUR HOMES? NEXT QUESTION ALSO IS, IS HOW MANY GAS STATIONS DO WE REALLY NEED TO THE NORTH? WE HAVE THREE GAS STATIONS.
WE'VE GOT A KROGER, WE'VE GOT A SHELL, AND WE'VE GOT AN EXXONMOBIL TO THE SOUTHEAST OF US.
I'VE GOT A BUCKY'S AND A CIRCLE.
KI THINK FIVE IS ENOUGH, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S A WEATHER EVENT, WE CAN GET TO IT WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE ANOTHER VACANT GAS STATION IN COUPLE OF YEARS.
LIKE ALL THE OTHER ONES WE'RE SEEING DOTTING AROUND OUR AREA.
THEY BUILD, THEY BUILD, THEY BUILD, AND THEN THEY DROP IT AND LEAVE IT AND WE'RE STUFFED.
SO I OPPOSE THIS ADAMANTLY IF YOU COULDN'T TELL
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, THIS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A PAIN.
THIS IS A, IT JUST, YOU WOULD NOT BELIEVE THE RAT SITUATION.
I WAS STANDING ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON TALKING TO MY NEIGHBOR AND A RAT COMES BETWEEN OUR TWO HOUSES, BETWEEN OUR FEET AND RUNS ACROSS THE STREET AND CLIMBS UP THE BRICK TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
ANOTHER INSTANCE WAS I WAS WALKING IN WITH MCDONALD'S FROM MY KID AND UP CLIMBS A RAT UP THE BRICK TO THE ROOF TO GO ACROSS MY HOUSE.
I'VE HAD RATS IN MY POND, I'VE HAD SNAKES.
I HAD A FIVE FOOT SNAKE IN MY BACKYARD THAT I HAD TO KILL WITH A SHOVEL.
TRUST ME, YOU KNOW, I WAS EAGER TO DO IT, BUT IT'S LIKE THE WILDLIFE IS BEING KICKED OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEN I MOVED HERE 20 YEARS AGO, I LOVED IT.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY STORES AND EVERYTHING CONVENIENCE I NEEDED WAS JUST A FEW MILES AWAY.
AND LAKE CITY'S GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
YOU'RE GETTING TOO BIG FOR YOUR BRIDGES, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT EAST, YOU'VE GOT WEST, YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH GOING ON.
I THINK THINGS ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS NOW.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS THERE'S A PIPELINE THAT RUNS UNDER THERE, A GAS PIPELINE.
HAS ANYBODY ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE? BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT SEEMS DANGEROUS TO ME.
I LIVE ON SIX 40 HEWITT STREET.
WHILE I DON'T LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, I DID A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I CAN ATTEST TO ALL OF THE LOSS OF PRIVACY, THE NOISE, THE LIGHTS THAT JUST THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BROUGHT IN.
NOW IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IN A GAS STATION RIGHT THERE, YOU'VE GOT THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, IT'S BACKED UP TWO MILES ON, TWO 70 FROM ONE RED LIGHT TO THE NEXT ONE AND BACK.
SO THAT'S JUST THE TRAFFIC THERE GETTING ON AUSTIN STREET WHERE THE RESIDENCES ARE GOING FROM TUSCAN ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ACCESS TWO 70, THAT'S BACKED UP FOR THREE, ALL THREE BLOCKS PLUS, YEAH.
SO THE TRAFFIC ALONE IS A CONCERN.
THEY PUT IN A LIGHT THERE, STILL BACKED UP.
NOW A GAS STATION, I'M GOING TO PRESUME WILL BE A 24 HOUR FACILITY.
DO WE NEED THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS WHEN, AS SANDY MENTIONED, THERE ARE FIVE GAS STATIONS WITHIN A MILE OR SO.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE RESIDENTS THERE WANT.
WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK OUT OF OUR BACKYARD AND SEE THESE LIGHTS REFLECTING INTO OUR BACKYARD, AFFECTING OUR PRIVACY AND THE ENJOYMENT OF JUST SITTING OUT IN YOUR BACKYARD IN THE EVENING, THE NOISE, THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, ANY POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES FROM A GAS STATION SPILLED FUEL, UH, RUNOFF, DRAINAGE.
UH, IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST A BIG CONCERN.
THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ITSELF HAD A HUGE IMPACT.
IT HAS, UH, REDUCED PROPERTY VALUES FOR THOSE BACKING UP TO IT.
I DON'T SEE A GAS STATION ENHANCING THOSE PROPERTY VALUES ONE BIT.
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THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS ON IT.UM, LIKE I SAID, I DID LIVE DOWN THE STREET FROM SANDY.
I WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE HOA AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF IS YEAH, A CLOSE KNIT GROUP OF FAMILIES.
THIS IS JUST GONNA BRING IN ANOTHER, UM, ELEMENT THAT DOES NOT, IT'S NOT CONDUCIVE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FEELING.
LIKE I KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT, BUT IT IS JUST OVERWHELMING AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.
AND WITH THE SCHOOL KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL, YOU'RE JUST GONNA INCREASE IT.
AND I NOTICED THAT THEY HAVE THE ENTRANCES BOTH ON TWO 70 AND ON AUSTIN STREET.
AUSTIN STREET'S AT WE, WE'VE RUN ACROSS TIME.
I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T MENTION THAT ORIGINALLY.
WE HAVE THREE MINUTES EACH TO, TO ADDRESS.
I THINK I'VE MADE MOST OF THE POINTS.
I, I I THINK YOU DID
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? PLEASE, PLEASE COME UP.
I, HI, UH, JAMES BROCKWAY, UH, 2366 ECLIPSE LANE.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THE PIPELINE.
THE PIPELINE ACTUALLY RUNS, UH, THROUGH THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S A BP PIPELINE, SO IT, IT DOESN'T RUN THROUGH THIS PROPERTY.
IT RUNS ALONG THE SIDE AND THEN IT CUTS INTO THAT PROPERTY JUST SOUTH OF AUSTIN.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? IF NOT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 7 0 1.
AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DO WE HAVE AN ACT? DO WE HAVE AN ACTUAL VISUAL ON A RENDERING, BUT AN ACTUAL VISUAL OF WHERE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THE GAS STATION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS? SO LOOKING AT THE SCREEN ON THE AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, I BELIEVE, I MEAN FROM THE FRONT YOU GROUND LEVEL PHOTOGRAPH, I DO NOT ON THIS.
UM, BUT I DO NOT HAVE, UM, AN IMAGE THAT SHOWS BOTH ON THE STREET LEVEL, I BELIEVE SO.
YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S WHERE THE RATS RE RAISING WHERE THE RATS USED TO BE.
SO I DO HAVE, UM, IT BRIDGE, HIGH BRIDGE AT EG BAY.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE WE HAVE MUCH MORE DETAILED PLANS FOR THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM.
UM, I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE ON THERE THAT THERE'S A DETENTION POND.
SO I WILL DEFER TO MATTHEW BROWN, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER ON WHAT, UM, DETENTION REQUIREMENTS WE'D BE, UM, SEEING HERE, UH, MATTHEW BROWN, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH YOU, YOU DON'T PHYSICALLY SEE ANY DETENTION FACILITY ON THIS RENDERING, BUT I WOULD FOREWARN YOU THAT THERE ARE MANY, THERE'S VARIOUS WAYS YOU CAN ACHIEVE DETENTION AND IT'S NOT ALWAYS VISIBLE FROM, FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, BIRD'S EYE VIEW.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, A LOT OF GAS STATIONS USE UNDERGROUND DETENTION OR PUMP DETENTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWED IN LEAGUE CITY.
UH, WE HAVE A HEIGHTENED CRITERIA FOR PUMP DETENTION, BUT IT IS ALLOWED.
AND AGAIN, I I, I JUST, UM, I GUESS THAT AT THIS POINT IT'S VERY CONCEPTUAL.
UM, BUT I WOULD REASSURE YOU THAT AS THEY PURSUE PERMITS WITH THE, UH, CITY OR, OR PROGRESS THROUGH THE PROCESS, THAT'S ONE THING THE CITY STAFF WILL BE LOOKING AT CLOSELY IS TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACHIEVE ALL THE DRAINAGE AND DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
UM, IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE LOOK VERY CLOSELY AT.
AND I JUST ASKED BECAUSE WE NOT ONLY HAD THIS RENDERING, BUT WE HAD VERY DETAILED DRAWINGS IN ADDITION TO THIS ARTIST RENDERING.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT IT.
I CAN, I CAN TELL YOU WITH ALL CERTAINTY, A PERMIT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T BE APPROVED WITHOUT ACHIEVING OUR DETENTION REQUIREMENTS.
WELL, I, I MEAN, I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IT'LL GET BUILT, YOU KNOW,
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SAFELY AND, AND, AND NO, IT ISN'T GONNA BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.MY, I GUESS MY FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS, MAN, WE GOT A LOT OF GAS STATIONS IN LEAGUE CITY, UH, DRIVING DOWN FIVE 18 THAT I LIVE OFF OF.
IT'S EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK AND, AND THEY ARE KIND OF EYESORE AFTER A WHILE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT YOU DO KIND OF WONDER, GOSH, WHEN IS ENOUGH GAS STATION DEVELOP? BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU GUYS CAN CONSIDER.
YEAH, AND I THINK ESPECIALLY ON THIS ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY WITHIN A MILE.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S MY BIGGEST, UM, CONCERN ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
DO WE STILL WANNA SEE A COP OR DO WE STILL WANNA SEE A STREET VIEW OF THE, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEX? I'M JUST TRYING TO PICTURE WHERE THE APARTMENT COMPLEX AND THEN YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A FEW MINUTES.
WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL THAT UP ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU.
WE, UH, JUST TO COMMENT, UH, ABOUT, AGAIN, TWO MONTHS AGO, WE, UM, BEEN PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION, UM, RECOMMENDED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A FUELING STATION ON 29 4 ACROSS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND, UM, COUNCIL TURNED IT DOWN.
AND THE REASON THEY DID WAS PART OF THE REASONS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HERE.
UM, THEY PROBABLY HAVE ENOUGH OF 'EM ALREADY, ALTHOUGH IT'S NOT OUR, UH, MISSION TO GUARANTEE THE SUCCESS OF ANY BUSINESS.
I MEAN, IF THE MARKET'S SATURATED, SATURATED, THEY CAN GO IN, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO FAIL.
IT'S NOT OUR, UH, PURVIEW TO SAY, OKAY, THERE ARE TOO MANY HERE.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S GONNA GO THERE.
UH, IF YOU DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY, YOU DON'T CONTROL IT.
AND SO IF SOMETHING IS GONNA GO THERE, MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONSIDER THE, THE LESS, YOU KNOW, TWO EAGLES, MAYBE THIS IS BETTER THAN A, THAN A, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOW WHAT WHATABURGER YEAH.
WHATABURGER OR A MAYBE A A, I LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, POST OFFICE OR SOMETHING.
SO ANYWAY, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF PUSHBACK.
UH, PERHAPS WE DO HAVE TOO MANY OF THESE RIGHT NOW AND, AND THAT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.
MAYBE WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ONE.
SO PAM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CAR WASH THAT WAS PROPOSED SCHOOL, RIGHT? STRICTLY A CAR WASH.
BUT THAT WAS TO VISUALIZE YOU GOT A CAR WASH WITH IT.
UM, IT DOES NOT HAVE A CAR WASH.
GRID AUSTIN, THERE'S ONE GAS STATION DOWN BY THE DANCE STUDIO AND ALL THAT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER GAS STATIONS ON TUESDAY? WE GOT A YES.
A MAP THAT SHOWS THAT IN OUR PACKET.
I DON'T HAVE IT IN THIS POWERPOINT.
UM, BUT YES, WE DO HAVE A EXHIBIT THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE STAFF REPORT.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN I DRIVE DOWN THAT STREET EVERY DAY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF I CAN, IT'S THREE WITHIN A MILE.
I'M NOT ABLE TO PULL IT UP JUST NOW.
THIS IS A ONE MILE, IT'S THE LEAST.
SO THERE'S ONE ON THE CORNER? MM-HMM
THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S 96.
SO THERE'S ONLY ONE, MICHELLE, ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO PULL UP THAT SCREEN VIEW? I POSSIBLY, I JUST EMAILED IT TO OUR IT SPECIALIST.
I HAVE SAUSAGE FINGERS SO WHEN I TRY TO TYPE FAST AND I FEEL LIKE THEY GET BIGGER.
WELL, MAINLY WHAT I WAS ALSO LOOKING AT IS THAT, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE SAYING WITHIN A MILE THERE ARE A LOT, BUT ON EAGER BAY RIGHT THERE, THAT BIG STRETCH OF EAGER BAY, THERE IS ONE, THERE'S ONE UP AT 96, 1 OVER AT FIVE 18.
THE THE EXHIBIT, UM, SHOWS ONE AT THE INTERSECTION OF EGERT BAY AND LAKE CITY PARKWAY, UM, TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE, UM, ALMOST TO MAIN STREET.
THERE'S ONE ALONG EGRET BAY AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AT THE INTERSECTION OF MAIN STREET THERE'S ABOUT TWO, BUT THOSE, UM, THOSE TWO ARE WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE SITE.
AND, AND THEN LIKE, OOPS, SORRY.
'CAUSE I ALSO HAVE A CHILD ON HEWITT
OKAY, WELL IF WE CAN'T FIND THE PICTURE, THAT WAS THE MAIN THING WAS THE VISUAL OF HOW FAR FROM THAT AREA DO WE WANT TO WAIT ON THAT? UH, IT IT'S YOUR CHOICE.
BUT WHEN THEY WERE SAYING FIVE RIGHT THERE, I WAS LIKE I AM NOT PICTURING THAT.
I DRIVE DOWN THAT ALL THE TIME.
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ARE THERE ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN WE WILL CALL FOR A MOTION.I MOVE THAT WE MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUP DASH 25 DASH 0 0 1 4.
UM, THE VEHICLE FUELING STATION PROPOSED FOR THE 2.97 ACRES, UH, CHANGING TO NEIGHBORHOOD OR FROM, NO, EXCUSE ME, THAT'S CURRENTLY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THE SUP IS FOR THE GAS STATION AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY.
EVERYBODY GET THAT? SO SECOND.
SO, MS. MORRISON MADE THE PROPOSAL AND MS. ARNOLD SECOND.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO FOUR AGAINST AND TWO IN FAVOR.
[6. Staff Comments]
THE NEXT ITEM UP FOR DISCUSSION IS STAFF COMMENTS.I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP THAT THE ITEMS THAT WERE HEARD TONIGHT WILL BE FORWARDED TO THE FEBRUARY 24TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING FOR THEIR CON FOR THEIR PUBLIC HEARING AND THEIR FIRST CONSIDERATION.
UM, ALSO, UH, AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER IN THE MEETING, MR. MAYS UH, RESIGNED HIS POSITION.
STAFF WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR HIS SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION.
YEAH, HE WAS, HE WAS QUITE THE CHAIRMAN.
Y'ALL, Y'ALL, Y'ALL, Y'ALL TALKED ME INTO IT SOMEHOW.
UM, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ADJOURN.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED, WE DON'T NEED ONE.