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OKAY, WE ARE OFFICIALLY,[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
IT IS SIX O'CLOCK, AND THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A ROLL CALL OF THE MEMBERS TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM.FRANK DOMINGUEZ IS NOT HERE YET.
HERE NAME IS WABA IS NOT, AND RUTH MORRISON IS NOT.
SO WE WILL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[2. Approval of November 3, 2025 minutes]
THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING.ANYBODY HAVE ANY, UH, CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS TO THOSE MINUTES AS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO YOU? IF NOT, WE'LL JUST, UH, UH, CONSIDER THOSE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
THE, UH, THIRD ITEM ON THEIR AGENDA IS A, UH, A CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ARE, THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT? IF NOT,
[4. Public Hearings and Action Items]
WE'LL GO STRAIGHT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT ITEM FOUR.THE FIRST ITEM IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUP 25 0 0 0 6 I 45 U-HAUL SELF STORAGE TO ALLOW A SELF STORAGE USE ON APPROXIMATELY 1.31 ACRES.
GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE SOUTH GULF FREEWAY FRONTAGE ROAD I 45 HIGHWAY, WHICH IS WITH THE ADDRESS OF 3 51 SOUTH GULF FREEWAY.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARK LANE SCHMIDT, PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A SELF STORAGE FACILITY JUST OVER AN ACRE.
UH, THE OVERALL INTENT FOR THIS SITE IS TO BE DEVELOPED WITH THE EXISTING SELF STORAGE FACILITY TO THE NORTH.
UM, THAT FACILITY IS APPROXIMATELY IS TWO STORIES AND APPROXIMATELY 85,000 SQUARE FEET ON ABOUT 2.7 ACRES.
OUR RECORDS INDICATE ABOUT 2010, AND AN EXPANSION WAS ALREADY PLANNED FOR THE, FOR THE SITE, ACTUALLY DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE EXISTING SITE.
HOWEVER, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT THAT DID NOT MOVE FORWARD.
AND THAT PROPERTY IS NOW ACTUALLY A TXDOT, UH, DRAINAGE FACILITY.
UM, IF APPROVED, THIS REQUEST WOULD BE COMBINED WITH THE OTHER SITE AND CONTAIN APPROXIMATELY A TOTAL OF 3.75 ACRES.
THE FACILITY OR THE OVERALL FACILITY WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE, TO THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS WOULD CONTINUE TO BE MINIMAL AS A RESULT.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED, THE SITE WILL NOT JUST BE PURE FOR PARKING AND STORAGE OF THE THE VEHICLES.
IT WILL ALSO CONTAIN DRAINAGE DETENTION AND DRAINAGE FACILITIES, AS WELL AS LANDSCAPING.
ON THE PROXIMITY MAT, YOU'LL SEE THE AREAS WITHIN A MILE.
UH, OF NOTE, AGAIN, THIS REQUEST IS IF APPROVED WOULD BE SUBMITTED AND WOULD BE COMBINED WITH THE EXISTING FACILITY.
THE PROPERTY TO THE, THE PIN TO THE SOUTH, JUST DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTHWEST, AS WELL AS THE PIN TO THE NORTHEAST OR NORTHWEST, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN THE MILE ZONE, HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO SPECIAL USE PERMITS THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS SEEN OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THOSE ARE RESPECTIVELY THE UL FACILITIES ON THE HOBBS ROAD, AS WELL AS THE EXISTING U-HAUL FACILITY ON, UM, LANDING BOULEVARD THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE LANDING BOULEVARD EXTENSION.
BASED ON OUR FINDINGS, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PRESENTS LOGICAL EXPANSION.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LEAGUE CITY COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MINIMAL AND THE PROPOSED USE AND EXPANSION ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE, UH, LANDSCAPING AND CONTRIBUTE, UH, TO THE IMPROVED AESTHETICS OF THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF DOES RECOMMEND, UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD SIMILARLY BEFORE, UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS WITH OUR APPROVALS LIMITED SUP TIMELINE.
AGAIN, THAT TIMELINE IS 24 MONTHS LIMITED USE.
SO THIS USE FOR THE SUP WOULD LEAD LIMITED TO SELF-STORAGE ONLY.
WE WOULD REQUEST THAT A PLAT BE REQUIRED TO OFFICIALLY COMBINE THOSE TWO PROPERTIES TOGETHER TO MAKE THAT ABOUT 3.75 ACRE TRACT.
NUMBER FOUR IS THE PROHIBITION OF STORAGE OF PODS OR SIMILAR STORAGE CONTAINERS, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER, THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE FACILITY ON THE HOBBES ROADSIDE AS WELL.
AND THEN THE SITE LAYOUT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKETS, AS WELL AS THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS THAT IT MEET ALL OF OUR REGULATIONS, THAT IT DOES
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THE DO DUAL SCREENING AND MEETS THE LANDSCAPING MATERIAL REQUIREMENTS.I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THE APPLICANT'S HERE AS WELL, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, 6 0 5.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ON THIS SUBJECT? IF NOT, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 0 5.
DOES, DOES ANYBODY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS OF, OF MARK ON THIS, ON THIS ISSUE OF, OR THE APPLICANT? SO, SO THE SIZING OF THE DETENTION POND, UH, FOR DRAINAGE, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, JUST THE SUFFICIENCY OF THAT AND THE IMPACTS WERE RUNOFF OR I'M ACTUALLY GONNA DEFER TO THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT? YEP.
UH, MATTHEW BROWN, ASSISTANT CITY ENGINEER FOR LEAGUE CITY.
I WOULD TELL YOU THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, UH, SUBJECT TO OUR LATEST AND GREATEST DRAINAGE CRITERIA, WHICH REQUIRES TWO FEET OF FREEBOARD ABOVE THE 100 YEAR, UH, STORM EVENT OR AT THE, THE TOP OF BANK OF THIS, THIS, THIS POND WOULD BE AT THE 500 YEAR, UH, WATER SERVICE ELEVATION, WHICHEVER'S THE HIGHEST.
ALSO, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, GOT DRAINAGE CRITERIA THAT, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PREVENTS ADJACENT PROPERTIES FROM BEING ADVERSELY AFFECTED, THINGS OF THAT SORT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD REVIEW IN DETAIL, UM, AS THEY PURSUE THEIR PERMITS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, IF THAT, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I MOVE THAT WE RECOMMEND A CITY COUNCIL, UH, THAT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, UH, BE APPROVED, UH, SUP 25 DASH ZERO SIX TO ALLOW ITSELF STORAGE USE ON APPROXIMATELY 1.3 ACRES AS DESCRIBED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE, UH, ITEM B IS WHOLE A PUBLIC AIRING AND CONSIDER A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE APPLICATION VA 25 0 0 0 9 LAKE RIDGE LANE, A REQUEST TO ALLOW OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES WITHIN AN ADJACENT TO PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY OF LAKE RIDGE LANE ON NINE CONCRETE POLES WHERE OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES ARE NOT PERMITTED PER SECTION FIVE EO OF THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
CHAPTER 1 25 OF THE LEAGUE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES ON APPROXIMATELY 1.72 ACRES OF PROPERTY, GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE INTERSECTION OF FM 6 26 46 AND WHISPERING LAKES WRENCH DRIVE.
YOU'RE GONNA DO THIS WITH MARK? YES, SIR.
AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MARK LENE SCHMIDT, PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY.
THE REQUEST BEFORE TONIGHT, AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, IS FOR A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE TO OUR OVERHEAD, OVERHEAD UNDERGROUND POWER REGULATION.
SO A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE IS A VARIANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
AND WHAT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THAT THE REQUIREMENTS BASICALLY SAY THEY HAVE TO BE UNDERGROUND IN FOLLOWING AND WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SEVERAL CONDITIONS.
THE FIRST ONE, UH, WHICH IS WHERE IT'S ALONG THE PERIMETER DEVELOPMENT, WHERE THE COMMISSION HAS SEEN THIS MOSTLY IS WITH ASSOCIATED WITH OUR PUDS.
WHEN WHEN A PUD IS CONSIDERED, YOU'LL SEE THE POWER LINES MOSTLY ALONG THE PERIMETERS, AND SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE THEM ALONG MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIRS.
A LOT OF TIMES LIKE LANDING BOULEVARD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH THE GRAND PARKWAY, YOU'LL SEE 'EM ON THE NORTH AND SOUTH SIDE OF THE GRAND PARKWAY BECAUSE OF TEX MEXICO CENTER POINT BOUNDARY ISSUES.
THE SECOND PORTION DEALS WITH THE PERIMETER OF THE DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT DOES ALLOW THEM ON CONCRETE POLES, BUT IT'S ONLY IN THOSE KIND OF TWO SUB CONDITIONS IS WHEN IT'S ADJACENT TO AN R TWO R ROADWAY OR HIGHER.
SO THAT BASICALLY MEANS IN OUR MINOR, UH, MAJOR ARTERIALS, SUCH AS 5 18, 6 46, UM, OR FREEWAY.
SO THAT WOULD ALSO ENTAIL I 45.
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THE SECOND PART IS ADJACENT OR DESIGNATED UTILITY CORRIDOR.THAT'S A MINIMUM 50 FEET, PROBABLY THE MOST RECENT WHERE WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION REGARDING THE UTILITY CORRIDORS WITHIN THE LEGACY DEVELOPMENT WHEN THEY EXPANDED TWO YEARS AGO WHEN THEY EXPANDED THEIR PUD AS A RESULT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, UM, THIS REQUIRE THIS VARIANCE BECAUSE THE LAKERIDGE LANE IS NOT CONSIDERED AN ARTERIAL, IT IS CONSIDERED A COLLECTOR STREET.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THERE'S A SMALL BOX IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER, AND HERE YOU'LL SEE THE, KIND OF THE DETAIL OF THE AREA WITHIN OUR ZONING MAP.
UH, THE TRACT IS NOT A RIGHT OF WAY, IT IS A FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY.
IT WAS ACTUALLY SUBDIVIDED AS PART OF A MEETS AND BOUNDS OUT OF THE ORIGINAL TRACT OF THE PROPERTY AND PLACED FOR A FUTURE ACCESS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL, IT JUST, IT MAKES A NATURAL SENSE.
THE, THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPER THOUGHT AT THE TIME, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD POINT OF ACCESS ACROSS FROM THE WHISPERING LAKES RANCH SUBDIVISION.
THIS, THIS ROADWAY DOES PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE, UM, LAKESIDE BAYOU SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS A 438 ACRE MASTER PLAN MIXED USE COMMUNITY THAT'S ENTIRELY LOCATED WITHIN TEXAS CITY.
IN GETTING RECENT INFORMATION FROM TEXAS CITY, THEY'RE PROPOSING APPROXIMATELY 1200 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND ABOUT 15 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, UH, AGAIN, ALL OF WHICH WAS LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY OF TEXAS CITY.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, THE PLAT, THE PLAT HAS BEEN APPROVED.
THE POWER PLAN, UH, IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
THEY ARE CURRENTLY PROPOSING NINE POWER POLES.
UH, THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THEY NEED THE FULL NINE, NINE POWER POLES.
HOWEVER, OUT OF ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION, WHETHER A, AN ISSUE WITH A DESIGN OR AN INFIELD, UH, CONSIDERATION, THEY DO WANTED TO REQUEST A LITTLE BIT ADDITIONAL FOR, UM, THOSE KIND OF INSTANCES.
UM, ALSO PLANNING DEPARTMENT DID TALK TO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS, SINCE THIS IS A RIGHT OF WAY, THEY DID INDICATE THAT THE A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT OF WAY IS CAPABLE OF CARRYING THE PLAN SECTION AND THE STANDARD PRIMARY DUCT BANK FOR UNDERGROUND POWER WITHOUT MOVING THE RIGHT OF WAY ITSELF.
UM, ALSO OF NOTE, AS YOU SAW IN THE PACKETS, THERE WAS A, UH, LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION AND AS WELL AS YOU SAW IN YOUR POSITIONS TONIGHT, STAFF DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM THE WHI SPRING LAKES RANCH, HOA, EARLIER TODAY.
AS FAR AS THE FINDINGS, UH, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN, UM, WORKING ON THIS RIGHT OF WAY ABOUT JUST OVER ABOUT THREE YEARS.
UM, AGAIN, NO PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF WHICH THE RIGHT OF WAY SERVE WILL BE WITHIN LEAGUE CITY.
THE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY IS NOT LISTED AS A MAJOR OR MINOR ARTERIAL OR FREEWAY.
THE AREA OF THE REQUEST IS NOT SUBJECT TO AN APPROVED MASTER PLAN.
AND STAFF HAS FOUND NO UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES DISCOVERED ON NO UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES, PARDON ME, HAVE BEEN DISCOVERED ON THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD AFFECT THE REQUIREMENT OF THIS BEING MET.
UM, SHOULD THE COMMISSION CONSIDER APPROVING THE REQUEST, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.
ONE, THE VARIANCE WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE LAKE RIDGE LANE RIGHT OF WAY AS DEPICTED.
NO ADDITIONAL EXTENSIONS OR MODIFICATIONS BEYOND THE DEFINED AREA WOULD BE PERMITTED BEYOND THIS APPROVAL.
THE TWO, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS FROM THE DATE OF THE APPROVAL TO COMPLETE THE INSTALLATION OF THE OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THREE, AGAIN, THE ALIGNMENT OF THE OVERHEAD POWER LINE WOULD BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF NINE CONCRETE POLES IF NECESSARY.
HOWEVER, FEWER THE NINE POLES WERE REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THE INSTALLATION, THEN THAT MAX ALLOW NUMBER WOULD BE REDUCED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF POLES THAT WERE ACTUALLY INSTALLED.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD, LIKE, THEY DO HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.
UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, SIX 14.
AND DO YOU HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET MARKED? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE FOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE SIGNED UP TO, UH, TO SPEAK AND, UH, THIS, WE'LL START WITH JEFF, UH, KURT.
SO, SO I JUST HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT.
UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS JEFF GILPATRICK.
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DEVELOPER.SO AS, UM, GENTLEMAN STATED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAKESIDE BAYOU PROJECT IS A, IS A LARGER PROJECT.
THE MAJORITY OF IT IS IN TEXAS CITY.
UH, IT'S REALLY JUST THIS 100 FOOT WIDE BY 700 FOOT STRIP.
THAT'S THE ONLY PIZZA THAT'S IN LEAGUE CITY.
AND THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT STRIP IS TO PROVIDE ROAD ACCESS TO REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO THE ROAD WAS DESIGNED TO COMPLIMENT THE, THE, UH, ENTRY TO WHISPERING LAKES DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM IT.
SO WE FOLLOWED THE EXACT SAME A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE SAME, UM, I THINK IT'S 32 FOOT WIDE MEDIAN, UH, WITH THE INTENT THAT IT WOULD HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, SYMMETRICAL SIZING AND, AND ENTRY ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER.
AND, AND THAT WOULD LOOK NICE.
UM, WE MET WITH THE CITY EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, UM, BEING ABLE TO PUT SIGNAGE IN THE MEDIAN THE SAME AS THEY HAVE ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY APPEALING, UH, ENTRY FROM THAT STANDPOINT.
UH, THIS IS A NEWER ITEM, UH, AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ON THE ELECTRIC.
UH, SO THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR HELPING US GET THIS VARIANCE IN QUICKLY.
UM, THE, UH, SO TECH.IS MOVING FORWARD, UH, BUT WE DID GET AN EMAIL TODAY FROM THE CITY THAT, UH, THEY MAY BE DELAYING THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, FM 6 46 EXPANSION.
BUT, UM, AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, THERE ARE GONNA BE OVERHEAD LINES BEING PUT IN ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF, UM, OF 6 46.
SO THERE'S, THERE ARE, UH, EXISTING OVERHEAD LINES AND THERE'S GONNA BE NEW OVERHEAD LINES.
AND SO OUR INTENT WAS TO CONNECT TO THOSE OVERHEAD LINES.
AND OUR PLANS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY TEXAS NEW MEXICO TO HAVE OVERHEAD LINES CONNECTING.
UM, AND SO THE, UM, SO THE ROAD IS NOT AN ARTERIAL.
UH, SO GOING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS IS JUST, AGAIN, SAME THING.
IT'S 700 FEET, IT'S A HUNDRED FOOT WIDE, IT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS.
UH, SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE DESIGNED IT SO IT'D HAVE THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL ACROSS FROM EACH OTHER.
I THINK THAT'D BE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, AESTHETICALLY PLEASING AND, AND NICE ENTRY FOR EVERYONE TO SEE, UH, DRIVING DOWN THAT ROAD.
SO THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, IF IF THIS VARIANCE IS NOT APPROVED, THEN, THEN WHAT DOES THAT CAUSE US TO DO? I MEAN, OUR, OUR ONLY OPTION THEN IS TO CHANGE TO AN UNDERGROUND ELECTRICAL SERVICE.
AND SO TEXAS NEW MEXICO REQUIRES THE UNDERGROUND TO BE IN A 16 FOOT WIDE, UH, USE EASEMENT OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THE, THE, THE REALLY THE PROBLEM WE'RE FACING IS THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE US TO COMPLETELY REDESIGN THE ROAD THAT WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED, UM, BY, BY LEAGUE CITY.
AND SO WE'D HAVE TO REDESIGN IT, SHRINK DOWN THE RIGHT OF WAY, SHRINK DOWN THE MEDIAN, UH, SO THEN IT'S NOT GONNA MATCH UP WITH THE ROAD ACROSS SO THAT THERE CAN BE A SEPARATE 16 FOOT, UH, EASEMENT WITHIN OUR A HUNDRED FOOT STRIP.
UH, AND SO WE JUST DID A QUICK SKETCH OF THAT HERE.
AND SO THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IDEAL, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, THEN THE, THE ROADS DON'T LINE UP FROM, FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.
YOU KNOW, THE LANES ON THE, ON THE WEST SIDE DON'T LINE UP.
UH, IT AFFECTS, YOU KNOW, HOW THE SIGNAGE WOULD LOOK, UH, JUST SO THAT YOU CAN, JUST SO THAT 16 FOOT EASEMENT WOULD BE IN THERE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, LEAGUE CITY HAS ALREADY APPROVED OUR CURRENT STREET, OUR ROAD DESIGN, TEXAS, NEW MEXICO HAS ALREADY APPROVED THE, THE OVERHEAD LINES.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING, AND THIS IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OVERHEAD LINES THAT ARE EXISTING.
SO ALL THE GREEN LINES OR OVERHEAD LINES THAT ARE EXISTING, THE PURPLE LINE IS THE NEW OVERHEAD LINE THAT'S GONNA BE GOING IN.
AND THEN THE BLUE LINE IS THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST THE SHORT LITTLE PIECE THAT, THAT WE'RE PROPOSING PUT.
WE'D LIKE TO TRY TO KEEP THESE TO, UH, AT MOST THREE MINUTES, SIR.
AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
I DO, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING'S OVER.
WE, WE TRY NOT TO DO QUESTION AND ANSWERS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO SURE.
SO YOU WANT ME TO STOP NOW? IS THAT SO YEAH, YOU'RE FINISHED.
UM, SO I THINK WE HAD OTHER PEOPLE SIGN UP.
I MEAN, I COULD USE THEIR TIME AS WELL.
I COULD USE THEIR TIME THOUGH, IF THAT, IF THAT WORKS FOR YOU.
IF, IF THEY, IF THEY COME UP AND ASK ME TO LET YOU HAVE THEIR TIME, THAT'S FINE.
THE NEXT PERSON IS CARSON NUNLEY.
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CARSON LY.I'M, I'M JUST HERE WITH THE TEAM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT THE PRESENTATION TOGETHER AS WELL, SO IF HE WANTS TO USE MY TIME TO KIND OF WRAP IT UP, THAT'S GREAT.
I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY.
YOU GOT YOUR, YOU GOT ANOTHER THREE MINUTES.
I'LL BE, SO JUST LOOKING AT OTHER PRECEDENTS AND OTHER COMMUNITIES.
SO JUST A MILE TO THE EAST IS COASTAL POINT.
IT'S A, A RECENT COMMUNITY THAT'S, UH, APPROVED BY LAKE CITY, AND THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME CONDITION AS WE DO.
UM, SO THEY HAVE OVERHEAD CONCRETE LINE ON A, ON JUST A STRIP ROAD THAT CONNECTS TO 6 46.
SO WE'RE JUST ASKING TO DO THE SAME THING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY LEAGUE CITY.
UM, SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AN APPROVED MASTER PLAN, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T NEED A VARIANCE, BUT, UM, SO, BUT WE'RE JUST, AGAIN, WE'RE JUST ASKING 'EM TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO YOU CAN SEE THEY HAVE, THERE'S A PICTURE OF THEIR OVERHEAD GOING DOWN THE STRIP ROAD.
THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE THE MEDIAN.
I THINK OURS WOULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT NICER WITH THE MEDIAN.
UM, SO AS FAR AS UNIQUE CONDITION, YOU KNOW, WE DO FEEL THIS IS UNIQUE THAT BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE THAT STRIP ROAD AND THE REST OF OUR COMMUNITY IS OUTSIDE OF YOUR JURISDICTION, UH, WE THINK IF IT WAS IN THE JURISDICTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROVED JUST LIKE COASTAL POINT WAS.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A HIGH QUALITY, UH, COMMUNITY AND ENTRY, FULLY LANDSCAPED.
UH, AND THEN STRICT APPLICATION, AGAIN, THIS IS, UM, ANOTHER ONE OF THE TESTS THAT I SAW ON THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, THEY DID THE EXACT SAME THING, AMAD ON THE ROAD.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST ASKING TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH MORE YOUR TIME, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DID GET SUPPORT FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER AND, UM, I THINK WE CAN MAYBE JUST USE SEVEN POLLS, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR UP TO NINE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR REVIEWING THIS VARIANCE THIS EVENING.
UM, I'M PART OF THE TEAM THAT'S PUT THIS TOGETHER.
I'VE WORKED ON THIS PROJECT AND, UM, HAD THE, UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN, UM, LEAGUE CI LEAGUE CITY AS WELL.
WE ARE, UH, A FRIEND TO THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH OUR PROJECT IS IN TEXAS CITY.
WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITY ON A DETENTION.
WE HAVE A DETENTION AGREEMENT TO PROVIDE SOME, UH, 200 ACRE FEET OF DETENTION AS PART OF THE BAYOU.
UH, ONE OF THE BAYOU PROJECTS, UM, FOR, UM, DETENTION IS PROVIDED BY THIS PROJECT.
UM, I, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THIS.
AND I ALSO DO WANNA STATE THAT, UM, I HAD REACHED OUT TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND TRIED TO MEET WITH THEM ON, UH, NO LESS THAN SIX DIFFERENT WAYS, THREE DIFFERENT EMAILS, AND THREE DIFFERENT PHONE CALLS, AND WERE UNFORTUNATELY NOT ABLE TO TALK WITH THEM.
SO WE DID TRY, UH, AND, AND REACH OUT JUST LIKE WE REACHED OUT TO OUR NEIGHBORS ON EITHER SIDE.
UM, I AM, UH, AGAIN, MY NAME IS BECKY COLLINS.
I'M A RESOURCE AND I, I CAN HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, RICHARD, AND IS THAT HOLLAND? IT SHOWS AN ADDRESS OF FIVE 10 GOLD FREEWAY.
IS THAT PERSON NOT HERE? I BELIEVE THAT WAS FOR THE PREVIOUS ITEM HE SIGNED.
HE SOUNDS LIKE HE SIGNED UP PREVIOUSLY AFTER IN LINE AFTER.
SO THEN THAT'S EVER ONE THAT IS, IS THAT EVER ONE THAT WANTS TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AS FAR AS THIS SUBJECT IS CONCERNED? THAT BEING SAID, THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 24 AND ENTERTAINED QUESTIONS OF MARK OR ANYONE ELSE, UM, FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I MAY HAVE MISSED SOMETHING IN THE, IN THIS WHOLE THING, BUT IS THIS, IS THIS SOME KIND OF A NEW LAW THAT THEY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT? IS THIS IS IT, HAS THIS BEEN THE RULE ALL ALONG? FROM THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SAW THIS THING, THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2015.
SO, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE HAVE DEALT WITH, AS WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THAT THROUGH THE PUDS, THROUGH COASTAL POINT PUD, THROUGH THE LEGACY PLAT, YOU KNOW, PUD THROUGH WESTLAND RANCH.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE REALLY KIND OF WHAT STEMMED IT WERE PREVIOUSLY WERE ISSUES WITH THE MARBELLA PUD,
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AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THE ORDINANCE WAS PUT IN PLACE, UH, IT, IT JUST SEEMS A LITTLE STRANGE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WE'RE LOOKING FOR A VARIANCE ON SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.ISN'T THAT CORRECT? IT'S, UH, 10 YEARS, JUST OVER 10 YEARS.
BUT WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE RULES SINCE THEY FIRST SUBMITTED THEIR APPLICATION, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
SO THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT THE RIGHT WAY TO BEGIN WITH.
I'M, I'M GONNA, THAT FAIR STATE LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THAT FAIR ABOUT WHEN, WHEN THEY WERE AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENT.
UH, WE, WE RECEIVED A LETTER AND I GUESS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ARE WE GONNA MAKE DAVID PERSONS LETTER A PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
I, I, THAT IS A PART OF THE OFFICIAL OPEN RECORDS.
AND THAT'S A LETTER FROM THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, WHISPERING LAKES RANCH, UH, SUBDIVISION, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OPPOSING THIS PROJECT AS SUBMITTED OR AS PROPOSED.
AND EVERYBODY GOT A COPY OF THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
I GUESS THAT WAS THE FIRST THING THAT I, I NOTICED AND IT WAS INTERESTING THAT DAVID, UH, PERSON WROTE THIS LETTER THAT I RECEIVED TODAY.
AND, UH, BUT WHEN I FIRST GOT THE, THE, UH, THE AGENDA INFORMATION, THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I SAW WERE THE HOUSES OVER IN THE ADJACENT SUBDIVISION.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND HOW WOULD I FEEL IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA PUT A BUNCH OF CONCRETE POLES IN MY BACKYARD? SO IT, UH, KINDA HARD TO, HARD TO IMAGINE THAT, HOW I WOULD REACT TO IT, PROBABLY SOME WAY THEY DID.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
I DO, I, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED IN THAT, SO ON THE WHISPERING RANCH SIDE, THEY HAVE THE WIDER ROAD, THE WIDER SPACE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MATCH UP TO, RIGHT.
BUT THEY HAVE, THEY FOLLOW THE RULES, RIGHT? THEIR STUFF'S UNDERGROUND.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ON THAT SIDE THEY CAN FIT EVERYTHING IN, BUT ON THIS SIDE IT WOULD MAKE IT LOOK DIFFERENT.
ANYBODY WANNA ADDRESS THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, ON THE SCREEN THERE, SO, WELL, THERE, THERE IS OVERHEAD ALL ALONG 6 46, UM, BEHIND THOSE HOUSES.
UH, BUT THEIR, SO THEIR ROAD, I MEAN, THEY OWN MORE LAND, SO THEY OWN THAT STRIP AND THEY OWN THE, THE LAND FOR THE LAKES.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEIR UNDERGROUND IS.
I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INSTALLED A LONG TIME AGO.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE PURPOSE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE LINED UP THE RIGHT OF WAY TO MATCH THEIRS AS THE A HUNDRED FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, AND WITH THE, WITH THE WIDER MEDIAN.
AND SO NOW, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, UM, I MEAN, IT'S OUR FAULT, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T PLAN FOR THE, UM, ANY UNDERGROUND ELECTRIC, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BELIEVED THAT THE OVERHEAD ELECTRIC WOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
UM, JUST 'CAUSE IT'S IN SO MANY OTHER COMMUNITIES THE SAME WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, I DIDN'T, THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT, THERE'S A FEW THINGS IN THERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK I CAN AGREE WITH THAT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANY CHANCE OF ANYTHING BLOCKING THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.
THERE'S ALREADY OVER OVERHEAD LINES THERE.
I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING THEM.
I GUESS IT, IT JUST WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE TO ME IF YOU WERE SAYING WE CAN'T MATCH IT UP BECAUSE YOU'RE HAVING US ADD IN THINGS TO THE GROUND THAT THEY DON'T HAVE OR ADDING IN THINGS.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IF THEY'RE DOING THE UNDERGROUND ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET, Y'ALL HAVE ROOM TO DO THE UNDERGROUND ON THE SIDE, THEN THEY COULD MATCH.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALSO A PRIVATE ROAD.
UH, THEY'RE NOT PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, SO THAT'S ONE DIFFERENCE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEIR UNDERGROUND LINES ARE, BUT, UM, SINCE OUR ROAD IS A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THAT'S WHAT'S ALSO CAUSING, CAUSING THE DIFFERENCE, UM, NEEDING THE EASEMENT SEPARATE, SEPARATE THE ROAD ON THIS SIDE, THIS WHOLE PART THAT THIS IS LEAGUE CITY'S ROAD, AND THEN IT BECOMES TEXAS CITY RIGHT THERE.
OR, UH, 'CAUSE YOU KNEW OUR RULES WHEN YOU WERE BUILDING THIS, RIGHT? YES.
YEAH, WE PERMITTED, YES MA'AM.
WE, WE PERMITTED THE ROAD IN LAKE CITY, UM, FOR THAT 700 FOOT STRETCH.
SO WE, WE, AND WE'VE, WE'VE JUST FULLY DESIGNED AND HAVE APPROVED CONSTRUCTION PLANS WITH LEAK CITY FOR, FOR OUR ROAD.
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FEET OF IT IS LEAGUE CITY.MS. ARNOLD, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT OR QUESTION? UH, YES.
UM, YOU, UM, REFERRED TO SEVERAL OTHER SUBDIVISIONS WHICH HAVE BEEN RECENTLY DEVELOPED, UM, ONE BEING COASTAL POINT.
UH, SO THEY HAVE OVERHEAD POWER CABLES IN THEIR ENTRY, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY DO.
UM, ONE COASTAL POINT IS SUBJECT TO A P WHERE THEY DID PUT THE LINES ALONG THEIR ENTRY, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ALONG THE WEST SIDE, THAT IS ALSO THE BOUNDARY OF THEIR PROPERTY.
WE ALSO WORKED WITH THEM WHERE YOU SEE KIND OF WHERE THE ENTRANCE KIND OF WIDENS OUT TOWARDS THE BACK.
WE DID ACTUALLY PUT IN THE PUD THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO PUT IN, I BELIEVE, ONE OR TWO EXTRA CONCRETE POLES AS THEY CROSSED MADRID LANE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE THE PERIMETER OF THE OVERHEAD LINES SO THAT THEY COULD KINDA LOOP THE SYSTEM IF YOU, IF YOU WILL, UH, FOR THEIR ELECTRICAL LINES.
SO DID THAT REQUIRE A VARIANCE? NO, MA'AM.
BECAUSE IT WAS A PUD WELL, IT PARTIALLY BECAUSE IT WAS A PUD, BUT THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED TO, EVEN IF IT WAS JUST A MASTER PLAN, BECAUSE THEY WOULD'VE BEEN ALLOWED.
'CAUSE THE LINES ALONG THAT CORRIDOR WERE ALONG THE PERIMETER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, HAVE WE, UM, GRANTED I SHOULD REMEMBER THIS, BUT HAVE WE GRANTED A VARIANCE LIKE THIS TO ANY OF THE OTHER SUBDIVISIONS? THERE WAS ONE OTHER CONSIDERATION BACK IN, I BELIEVE, 2014 FOR THE MARBELLA.
AND WHAT WAS THAT? THAT'S WAY BEFORE I, YEAH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, UM, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES RELATED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
I DON'T HAVE THE, THE INFORMATION RIGHT ON MY HAND.
IT, THE RESULT ENDED UP IN A, AN ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONTROVERSY AFTERWARDS RELATED TO ISSUES BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT WITH REGARDS TO INFORMATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE, THE REQUEST.
AND THAT I WOULD'VE TO GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.
THAT GENERATED THE ORDINANCE THEN IN 2015, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
SO THIS WOULD BE THEN THE FIRST, THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE OF THIS ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE GRANTED, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
AND I THINK AS WELL, THE, THE COASTAL POINT AT THIS POINT IS KIND OF A BACK ENTRANCE TO THE, I MEAN, NOT LIKE I THINK I LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T BUILT, IT JUST OPENED UP LAST SUMMER, SO, BUT IT WASN'T SOMETHING PEOPLE WERE FIGHTING ABOUT WHEN THE, WHEN THE POLLS WERE BEING PUT UP, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY WOULD NOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE AN, AN ACTUAL ENTRANCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT I THINK THAT BACK IN THE DAY WHEN THERE WAS JUST, THEY WERE PUTTING THE POLES UP, COASTAL POINT WASN'T FIGHTING IT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ROAD THERE.
IT WAS JUST A GONNA BE AN EVENTUAL BACK ENTRANCE THAT NOBODY THOUGHT ABOUT.
SO THIS IS THEIR FRONT ENTRANCE TO THEIR PROPERTY.
SO IS IS THE ONLY CONCERN THAT IF YOU COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE, IT, IT JUST OFFSETS THE ROAD? THAT AND A DELAY? UH, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
ALL THE PHASE ONE AND CONSTRUCTION PLANS ARE APPROVED, WE'RE READY TO BREAK GROUND.
UH, IT'S, IT'S GONNA CAUSE A DELAY IN THE PROJECT AND, AND INCLUDING, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT INCLUDES THE DELIVERY OF THE DETENTION FOR THE, FOR LAKE CITY AS WELL.
I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO IT, IT'S, IT'S MORE OF A, A DELAY PROBLEM.
UH, BUT, BUT ALSO THE ENTRY AND THE, AND THE AESTHETIC APPEAL OF IT, I MEAN, WE WANT TO HAVE A NICE LOOKING ENTRY.
THE THOUGHT COMES TO MIND, IT JUST COMES TO MIND.
IT'S GONNA BE A NICER LOOKING ENTRY WITH, UH, UNDERGROUNDS THAN ABOVE GROUND.
I'VE BEEN IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS A LONG TIME, AND IT LOOKS BETTER IF YOU DON'T HAVE LINES RUNNING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO THE DE THE DELAY MIGHT BE WORTH IT.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, DELAY WITH, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, WITH REDESIGNING AND, AND, AND RE-APPROVAL THE ROAD WITH, WITH LEAGUE CITY, BUT IT'S ALSO WITH TECH STOCKS.
UH, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT DESIGNED AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, THE TURN LANE AND EVERYTHING, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, ON THAT OTHER PICTURE, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S OVERHEAD LINES, YOU KNOW, IN FRONT OF, IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S OVERHEAD LINES AT, AT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE 700 FEET.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S 700 FEET OF, OF JUST, IT, IT, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ON CONCRETE POLES TOO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW YEP.
AS GOOD AS THREE PHASE POWER CAN LOOK
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DELAY? LIKE WHAT WOULD THE DELAY BE? TWO MONTHS, SIX MONTHS? 12? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 3, 2, 2 OR THREE THREE YEARS, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED IT COULD BE UP
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TO, I THINK 15 MONTHS.DO WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THE, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHERE THE OTHER POLES ARE? UH, YOU, THE REMOTE? YEAH, THE, WHICH OTHER POLES WE HAVE? I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ALREADY POLES ACROSS THE STREET AT WHISPERING LAKES? YEAH.
SO THE, THE POLES THAT WE'RE ASKING TO INSTALL ARE, WILL BE JUST LIKE THAT BOTTOM PICTURE.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT.
UM, AS FAR AS THE OTHER LINES, THERE'S, SO THE GREEN LINES ARE ALL EXISTING OVERHEAD LINES.
THE PURPLE LINE IS, IS THE NEW OVERHEAD LINE THAT'S GONNA BE INSTALLED ON THERE WITH THE ON 6 46.
AND THEN THE BLUE, THE BLUE LINE IS THE ONLY PIECE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
SO I THINK LIKE LOOKING AT IT IN THE FRONT ENTRANCE OF DE OF WHISPERING LAKES, THERE'S NOTHING OTHER THAN BEHIND THE HOUSES, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
AND WE'RE NOT ASKING TO PUT ANYTHING ON THEIR SIDE, IT'S JUST GOING INTO THE ENTRY TYPE DEAL.
YEAH, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS ALL ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET.
IT'S, YEAH, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THEY, SO THE BLUE LINE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT YOU SAID THE PURPLE LINE.
ARE THEY ALSO ALREADY, THEY'RE ALREADY POLES.
THAT'S FUTURE T DOT TEXAS DOT, THAT'S, YEAH.
UH, LAST UPDATE WE GOT WAS THAT, UH, THEY'RE READY TO START CONSTRUCTION IN DECEMBER, THIS, THIS MONTH.
UM, AND THAT'S GONNA BE FOR THE EXPANSION OF, IS THAT NINE? IS THAT 99 RUNNING THROUGH THERE? UH, IT'S, WELL, IT'S THE WIDENING OF 6 46.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE GOOD? OKAY.
OKAY, SO NOW WE'LL, UH, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR THE, UH, APPLICANT, THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
THE MOTION, JUST MAKE THE MOTION AND THEN VOTE.
JUST MAKE THE MOTION SECOND MOTION AND THEN VOTE WILL VOTE.
UH, THAT WE RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL A VARIANCE, A APPROVING A VARIANCE APPLICATION, VA 25 0 0 0 9 REQUEST TO ALLOW OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES WITHIN AN ADJACENT TO A PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY OF LAKE RI, LAKE RIDGE LANE, UH, AS, AS SPECIFIED HERE.
OKAY, MR. ARNOLD, SO IF I MAY, REAL QUICK, YOUR MOTION WAS TO ALLOW THE, TO YES, I, IF I MAY, THE WITH SUBDIVISION VARIANCE MM-HMM
THE BOARD CONSIDERS IT IS, THIS IS NOT A RECOMMENDATION.
THIS, THIS IS THE DECISION BY THE BOARD.
SO THEN, UH, OUR VOTE TONIGHT IS FINAL 'CAUSE WE GRANT THE VARIANCES, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
OKAY, SO I'LL GO AHEAD WITH MY MOTION, BUT I'LL CHANGE THAT.
UH, I MOVE, UH, THAT WE, WELL, I THINK THE EASIEST WAY IS TO JUST VOTE THE WAY YOU JUST DID IT.
AND THEN IF YOU DON'T WANT, AND, AND IF YOU VOTE AGAINST IT, IT'LL FAIL ANYWAY.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
ISN ISN'T THAT CORRECT COUNSELOR? YEAH.
WELL, LET'S TRY IT AGAIN THEN.
WELL THEN I RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, I MOVE, I MOVE THAT WE CONSIDER A SUBDIVISION VARIANCE APPLICATION VA 25 0 0 0 9, A REQUEST TO ALLOW OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES WITHIN AND ADJACENT TO A PROPOSED RIGHT OF WAY OF LAKE RIDGE.
LANE ON NINE CONCRETE POLES WHERE OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL LINES WERE NOT PERMITTED PER SECTION FIVE OF UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE OF LEAGUE CITY, UH, AS STATED.
AND IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FOR THE PURPOSE OF A VOTE? I'LL SECOND IT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF OR APPLICANT? THAT'D BE THE CASE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, UH, NAYS CARRY IT AND IT DOES NOT, UH, IT DOES NOT PASS AS PRESENTED.
THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER
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1 25, ARTICLE FOUR, SITE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND APPENDIX, A DEFINITIONS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF LAKE CITY RELATING TO GOLF CART PARKING.IS THAT YOURS? UM, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A COUNCIL SPONSORED ITEM, UM, BY COUNCIL MEMBERS CONES AND MANN.
UM, WHAT IT DOES IS IT DEFINES BOTH GOLF CART AND UTVS, AND THEN IT TAKES AWAY THE RESTRICTION, UM, AND ALLOWS UP TO SIX GOLF CARTS OR UTVS, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS THAT PRIMARILY SELLS OR REPAIRS THOSE, UM, VEHICLES TO PARK IN THE GRASS TO BE ALLOWED TO PARK IN THE GRASS.
HAS THIS BEEN AN ISSUE SOMEWHERE? UM, WE, WE ONLY HAVE SEVERAL GOLF CART.
WE APPROVED THAT ONE OVER ON SOUTH SHORE BOULEVARD WHERE HE SELLS THOSE CARTS.
SO THE, THE ONES I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW ARE THE, THERE'S ONE ON HIGHWAY THREE CALLED JACK CARTS.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE ON HIGHWAY THREE THAT'S CALLED, UM, GOLF CARTS OF CYPRUS, I BELIEVE.
AND THEN THERE'S CKD CARTS ALONG MAIN STREET.
UM, THIS ONE WOULD MAINLY AFFECT THE, UM, JACK CARTS ON HIGHWAY THREE THAT HAS A GRASS AREA IN FRONT OF IT.
AND IT WOULD ALLOW THOSE, UM, UP TO SIX GOLF CARTS TO BE PARKED THERE.
IT SIX IS THE MOST THAT YOU COULD PARK? YES, SIR.
SIX WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM BASED ON THIS ORDINANCE.
WHY NOT JUST POUR SOME CONCRETE AND PARK IT ON THE CONCRETE? UM, THAT'S NOT WHAT WAS REQUESTED, UM, FOR STAFF TO PRESENT.
SO THIS WAS THE REQUEST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? I THINK THERE'S TREES, BIG OAK TREES.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER AT 6 41, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANYBODY LEFT TO TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT.
SO WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 41.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? HOW DO YOU KEEP IT FROM LOOKING LIKE A GOLF CART JUNKYARD? UM, I THINK THE INTENTION OF THE LIMITATION OF HAVING THOSE SIX THERE WOULD, UM, THAT WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT THAT THEY COULD PARK OUT FRONT.
IS THERE CURRENTLY MORE BEING PARKED OUT FRONT THAN SIX RIGHT NOW? UM, AT THAT SPECIFIC SITE, IT KIND OF VARIES FROM, FROM DAY TO DAY.
I, I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY ARE PARKED OUT THERE TODAY.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ORDINANCE.
SO HE CAN PARK 15 OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, THE, THE ORDINANCE PROHIBITS ANY PARKING ON GRASS.
THIS WOULD EXEMPT UP TO SIX GOLF CARTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE APPROVE THIS AS SUBMITTED? UH, WE DON'T HAVE A RECOMMENDATION.
WE'RE SIMPLY PRESENTING IT ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
WHY QUESTION IF, IN OTHER WORDS, THIS IS GONNA LIMIT THE NUMBER OF G CARTS THAT CAN BE PARKED OUT THERE TO SIX, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND I THINK YOU JUST ANSWERED THIS, BUT I WANNA HEAR IT AGAIN.
HAS THERE BEEN A PROBLEM WITH EXCESSIVE GOLF CARTS PARKING OUT IN FRONT OF THESE ESTABLISHMENTS ON THE GRASS? IT BEEN A, DOES IT LOOK JUNKY? THE ONLY SCENARIO I'M AWARE OF, UM, THAT HAS HAD GOLF CARTS, PARKING IN THE GRASS IS AT THAT, UM, LOCATION ON HIGHWAY THREE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THIS WOULD LIMIT THEM, UM, TO THAT SIX.
SO THERE'S NOT EXCESSIVE PARKING.
UM, AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER WOULD BE SIX.
BUT THE CURRENT MAXIMUM IS ZERO, THE CURRENT MAXIMUM IS ZERO? YES.
AND THEY'RE STILL, BUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT ABIDING BY THAT TODAY? UM, I THINK THAT THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE CONCLUSION OF THIS.
SO I KNOW OF, I KNOW OF ONE OF, I KNOW OF ONE OF THE, UH, AND THERE USED TO BE CART OUT THERE, SO I'M ASSUMING, AND HE, AND HE STOPPED PUTTING 'EM OUT THERE, SO I'M ASSUMING PROBABLY LEAGUE CITY TOLD 'EM, HEY, YOU CAN'T HAVE 'EM OUT THERE.
SO NOW THAT WILL ALLOW HIM TO HAVE SIX UP TO SIX GOLF CARTS PARKED OUTSIDE? YES, SIR.
IS, IS THIS JUST FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE SELLING GOLF CARTS? IS THAT IT IS, YES, SIR.
DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GOLF COURSES AND ALL THAT KIND OF, SIR, IT'S SPECIFIC TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT SELL OR REPAIR GOLF CARTS.
IS THERE A MOTION, UH, TO BE MADE ON THIS? YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND GO FOR THE GRAND SLAM? SURE.
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DO WE HAVE A SECOND HERE? AND, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND THEN SO THAT IT DOES NOT CARRY, IT'S, UH, 4, 4, 4 1 AGAINST, SO THIS, THE RECOMMENDATION, UM, FROM P AND Z WILL BE A RECOMMENDED TO APPROVE TO COUNSEL WITH ONE, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
YOU'LL HAVE TO SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
THE, THE RECOMMENDATION WE'LL FORWARD TO COUNCIL IS A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD, UM, VOTED FOR, BUT IT DID NOT FAIL IT, BUT IT FAILED.
IT WAS 4 4 1 AGAINST, SO IT PASSED.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM, AND I GUESS THIS IS THE LAST TIME, ACCORDING TO THE NEW RULES THAT WERE PASSED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IT'S THE LAST TIME WE'LL HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS IN ONE MEETING.
IS THAT RIGHT? UM, SO THE, THE BYLAWS THAT WERE PASSED ALLOW A MAXIMUM OF FOUR, SO WE COULD HAVE FOUR POTENTIALLY.
ITEM D IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 25, ARTICLE EIGHT, SIGNS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY RELATED TO SIGNS ADJACENT TO OVERPASSES.
UM, THIS IS ANOTHER COUNCIL SPONSORED ITEM.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBER SAUNDERS IS HERE.
UM, AND HE IS ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS ALONG WITH COUNCIL MEMBER HIGGINBOTHAM.
UM, SO WHAT THIS WILL DO IS IN, IN CASES WHERE THERE IS AN OVERPASS AND THERE'S A SIGN ADJACENT TO THAT OVERPASS THAT WILL ALLOW THE SIGN TO BE ELEVATED 10 FEET, A MAXIMUM OF 10 FEET ABOVE THE DRIVING SURFACE OF THAT OVERPASS.
UM, AND SO THAT WILL ALLOW SITUATIONS.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE ALONG THE FREEWAY, UM, FREEWAY, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHTS 42 AND A HALF FEET.
AND SO THE ROADWAY SURFACE IS TYPICALLY 20 TO 25 FEET.
SO THIS WOULDN'T AFFECT PROPERTIES ALONG THE FREEWAYS.
IT WOULD MAINLY AFFECT ALONG ARTERIALS.
UM, THE, THE EXAMPLE IS ALONG, UM, FM 6 46 WHERE THERE'S A PROPOSED OVERPASS THAT'S GOING OVER HIGHWAY THREE AND OVER THE RAILROAD TRACKS.
UM, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALONG 6 46 IS ACTUALLY 20 FEET INSTEAD OF THE 42 AND A HALF ALONG A FREEWAY.
SO THIS WOULD ALLOW THEM TO ELEVATE ABOVE THE ROADWAY SURFACE SO THEIR SIGN IS POTENTIALLY STILL VISIBLE TO THOSE CARS TRAVELING ON THE SURFACE.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, 6 47.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? YOU DON'T HAVE TO, I THINK.
I THINK, UH, MR. CARPENTER'S LAYING EVERYTHING OUT.
THAT, THAT BEING SAID, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 48.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF F HAS THIS BEEN A BIG PROBLEM? NO, SIR.
THERE'S NOT VERY MANY SITUATIONS THAT I'VE NEVER NOTICED WOULD APPLY TO BIG ISSUES WITH IT.
UM, BUT IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE CASE SPECIFICALLY, THE, THE ISSUE CAME UP DUE TO 6 46 EXPANSION AND THERE WERE BEING AN OVERPASS PROPOSED THERE AND THOSE SIGNS BEING UNDERNEATH THAT OVERPASS LEVEL.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT TRIGGERED, UM, THIS.
AND THERE'S REALLY NO DOWNSIDE TO NOT DOING THIS.
IS THERE? UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO IT.
UM, IT'LL JUST ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL, UM, YOU KNOW, SITE VISIBILITY FOR THESE BUSINESSES.
WE WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE AS, UH, RECOMMENDED.
I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT, UH, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO, UH, ON AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 1 25, ARTICLE EIGHT, SIGNS OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY RELATED TO SIGNS ADJACENT TO OVERPASSES.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, FORWARDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IS THAT CORRECT? AND THAT IS A MOTION, YES, SIR.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[5. Other Business]
NOW YOU'RE GONNA TELL US WHEN, WHEN WE'RE GONNA MEET, RIGHT? UM, YES SIR.[00:50:01]
UM, SO IN OUR OTHER BUSINESS, UM, WE HAVE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION CALENDAR FOR 2026.UM, AS DISCUSSED, UM, PREVIOUSLY WITH Y'ALL DURING THE STAFF COMMENTS, UM, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, WE OMITTED OUR BYLAWS SO WE COULD, UM, HAVE Y'ALL ADOPT THE CALENDAR OF MEETINGS, WHICH IS PROPOSED ON THE SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, THE TWO MONTHS TO TAKE NOTE OF OUR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, WHERE IS SIMPLY THE SECOND THURSDAY OF BOTH OF THOSE MONTHS DUE TO THE HOLIDAYS OF THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS.
HERE, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO BASICALLY THIS IS A SECOND AND FOURTH THURSDAY? YES, SIR.
AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS SEVERAL TIMES WHILE IT'S BEEN IN THE MAKING, IT IS BROUGHT ABOUT BECAUSE OF SOME LEGISLATIVE, UH, ISSUES THAT CAUSED THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS TO BE MORE OR HARD TO DO UNDER THE PRESENT THING, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
PREVIOUSLY IT WAS 72 HOURS PRIOR TO THE MEETING, WHICH WOULD'VE LED US NOTICE ON FRIDAY FOR MONDAY, MONDAY'S MEETING, UM, SEVEN, AND NOW IT'S THREE BUSINESS DAYS.
SO NOW FOR FRIDAYS, FOR MONDAY'S MEETING, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE NOTICED ON TUESDAY OF THE WEEK BEFORE.
SO IT JUST GIVES US LESS TIME TO PREPARE, GET EVERYTHING IN, AND GET ITEMS ON THE AGENDA WHEN WE HAVE TO PREPARE THAT ON MONDAY TO GET IT OUT FOR TUESDAY.
SO THIS GIVES US THE ENTIRE WEEK, GIVES SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY TO GET STUFF IN THROUGHOUT THE WEEK AND STILL GET IT ON A P AND Z AGENDA FOR THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
AND ALSO THURSDAYS ARE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OF OUR OTHER BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
I, IT, IT, IT'S FINE WITH ME, BUT I, I THINK THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, UH, ADOPT THE, UH, THE CALENDAR FOR 2000 FOR 2026 AS PROPOSED BY COUNCIL BY, UH, STAFF.
IS THERE A MOTION, A MOTION TO UH, APPROVE THE PLANNING AND DONATION CALENDAR FOR 26? SAYS, PROPOSED BY STAFF MOTIONS BEEN MADE.
IS THERE SECOND? SECOND? IS THERE SECOND? AND LET'S VOTE.
UM, SOME OF US WILL ANYWAY,
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SO FOR STAFF COMMENTS, THE ONLY ITEM I HAVE TODAY IS TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S JUST ONE COUNCIL MEETING IN DECEMBER AND THAT WILL BE DECEMBER 16TH.UM, THAT WILL HAVE THE TWO ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS YOU HEARD TODAY, AS WELL AS THE SUP, UM, THAT YOU HEARD TONIGHT AS WELL.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD MENTION WAS IF ANYBODY HAS A, UH, IF YOUR TERM IS EXPIRING, YOU'LL, THEY NEED TO RE-UP, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
IF YOU, IF YOU WOULD'VE RECEIVED NOTICE FROM OUR CITY SECRETARY, IF YOUR TERM IS EXPIRING, UM, YOU NEED TO SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION EVERY TIME YOUR TERM EXPIRES.
SO IF YOU GET THAT NOTICE, MAKE SURE YOU DO SO, IF YOU'D LIKE TO REMAIN ON THE COMMISSION, WHAT? SO THE, I MEAN THE, FOR ME PERSONALLY, THE, I TYPICALLY TRAVEL TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAYS.
I'M ALWAYS IN TOWN MONDAYS AND FRIDAYS.
UH, SO I COULD PROBABLY MAKE HALF OF THE THURSDAYS.
WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR, I MEAN, WHAT IS THE PREFERENCE? 'CAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS RE-UP BUT THEN MISS EVERY OTHER, LIKE, I JUST LOOKED THROUGH THE, I'LL MISS LIKE THE FIRST FOUR THURSDAYS AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE TYPICALLY I FLY OUT TUESDAY MORNING AND I'M, I'M BACK LATE THURSDAY.
YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DISCUSS IT IF YOU'D LIKE AFTER THE MEETING, BUT, UM, YEAH, GENERALLY IF YOU MISS THREE CONSECUTIVE MEETINGS, UM, YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY TAKEN OFF OF THE BOARD, UM, UNLESS THEY'RE EXCUSED AND, AND THEN YOU CAN REMAIN ON THE BOARD.
SO IT'S REALLY A PERSONAL CHOICE, UH, YEAH.
THE, I MY TERM IS EXPIRING IN DECEMBER.
I DIDN'T GET ANY NOTICE SO THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GIVE ME A SUBTLE MESSAGE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE THE CASE, SIR.
WHATEVER, BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL CHECK ON THAT.
WELL, AND IF IT IS EXPIRING, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO GET YOU AN APPLICATION.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE COMMISSION AND, AND, UH, QUESTIONS OF STAFF? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL AT, UH, 6 54 WE'LL STAND ADJOURNED.