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YOU.[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS]
ALRIGHT.I'LL CALL TO ORDER THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY WILL NOW COME TO ORDER IN A WORK SESSION ON OCTOBER 28TH, 2025 AT 5:00 PM ROLL CALL.
AND, UH, THEN WE'LL MOVE RIGHT INTO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[3. PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING BOATS, DOCKS AND WATERWAYS]
COMMENTS, AND WE'LL DO A PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING BOATS, DOCKS, AND WATERWAYS.UM, SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT A PROPOSED ORDINANCE THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, UH, THROUGH THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE, CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, THE PDS BEEN INVOLVED IN IT.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE TALKED WITH GLO AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE AREA REGARDING, YOU KNOW, DERELICT BOATS, ABANDONED BOATS AND MARINAS.
AND THEN HOW WE CAN HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THAT.
UH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE AN ORDINANCE AND A LEGAL BASIS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO HAVE SOME ACTION REGARDING, UH, MARINAS AND, YOU KNOW, THE SAFETY AND ENFORCEMENT IN MARINAS.
AND THEN LOOKING AT ABANDONED BOATS AND DERELICT VESSELS THAT ARE BOTH IN MARINAS AND THEN IN THE WATERWAYS OF LAKE CITY.
I'M SURE, AS ALL OF YOU'RE AWARE, UM, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES RECENTLY, PROBABLY IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO, UM, WITHIN THE MARINAS.
UH, SO THERE'S BEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT CALLS FOR SERVICE.
WE'VE HAD HEALTH AND SAFETY ISSUES, FIRE CODE VIOLATIONS.
UM, AND THEN JUST IN GENERAL, THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH DERELICT, UH, VESSELS, NOT ONLY IN THE MARINAS, BUT ALSO, UH, WITHIN THE WATERWAYS OF LAKE CITY.
UM, SO THE TWO PICTURES THERE, THEY'RE PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR OLD.
I BELIEVE BOTH OF THOSE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN HANDLED AT THIS POINT.
BUT THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY OUT IN THE LAKE THAT ARE ULTIMATELY CAUSING HAZARDS TO THE GENERAL BOATING POPULATION THAT UTILIZES CLEAR LAKE.
SO THIS ORDINANCE FOR US IS GONNA ESTABLISH A SEAWORTHINESS STANDARD.
SO ESSENTIALLY, THE BOAT HAS TO BE SEAWORTHY.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IT IT CAN'T HAVE STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.
IT CAN'T HAVE A HOLE BREACH, IT CAN'T BE TAKING ON WATER THAT, THAT THREATENS ITS, UH, ABILITY TO STAY AFLOAT.
UM, IT CAN'T BE IN A, A DEGRADATED STATE THAT HAS SIGNIFICANT ELECTRICAL HAZARDS OR BROKEN MASS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ESSENTIALLY A BOAT THAT IS ABLE TO BE OPERATED AND UTILIZED, AND THEN IT ALSO GIVES US THE ABILITY TO START DOING SOME ENFORCEMENT TO HELP CLEAR OUT AND GET RID OF SOME OF THESE UN UNSEE WORTHY VESSELS.
ULTIMATELY, IF THOSE VESSELS ARE IDENTIFIED, WE GET A COMPLAINT ON THEM, WE FIND THEM OR WHATEVER, WE'RE THEN ABLE TO PROVIDE, UH, NOTICE TO THE OWNER OF IT OR THE LAST KNOWN OWNER OF THAT VESSEL.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A 10 DAY PERIOD IN WHICH THAT INDIVIDUAL, UH, WHETHER IT BE THE OWNER, THE LAST KNOWN OWNER OR WHOMEVER, UM, CAN, UH, RECTIFY THAT ISSUE.
REMOVE THE BOAT, CORRECT, WHATEVER THE PROBLEMS MAY BE.
UM, AND THEN IF FAILURE TO DO SO, IT THEN GIVES THE CITY THE ABILITY TO ACTUALLY STEP IN AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
SO THE, THE GENERAL WATERWAY USE AND WATERWAY STAKEHOLDER RESPONSIBILITIES.
SO TO START WITH, THE WATERWAY STAKEHOLDERS ARE ESSENTIALLY MARINAS, BOAT SLIP OWNERS, THE BOAT OWNERS THEMSELVES.
I GUESS KIND OF TO JUST CAPTURE IT ALL UNDER ONE UMBRELLA.
EVERYBODY THAT'S HAS SOME, UH, INTEREST IN WHAT'S GOING ON AS FAR AS THE MARINAS OR A BOAT IS GONNA BE WHO THOSE WATERWAY STAKEHOLDERS ARE.
UM, SO THIS ORDINANCE THEN, UM, IT REQUIRES THAT THE WATERWAY STAKEHOLDERS ARE, HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH MEANS THE MARINAS ARE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY.
UM, AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH SOME OF THE PERMITTING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT HERE SHORTLY.
UM, IT'LL ALSO, UM, UH, IT'LL ALSO REQUIRE THAT THE MARINAS NOT ALLOW A NON PERMITTED LIVERBOARD TO BE WITHIN THEIR MARINAS.
SO ESSENTIALLY, A LIVERBOARD HAS BEEN DEFINED, UM, AS A, A BOAT THAT IS BEING UTILIZED AS A HOME FOR MORE THAN 10 DAYS CONSECUTIVELY IN A 30 DAY PERIOD.
SO WE WERE NOT TRYING TO TARGET SOMEBODY THAT WANTED TO GO DOWN THERE ONE DAY HERE, ONE DAY THERE ON A WEEKEND OR WHATEVER, MORE SO THE PE THE, THE BOATS THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED AS A RESIDENCE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'LL GET INTO HERE SHORTLY ABOUT WHAT THAT ACTUALLY ENTAILS FOR THOSE.
UM, IT ALSO, IT'S GONNA REQUIRE THAT THE, THAT THE MARINAS VERIFY THAT ALL THE LIVERBOARDS HAVE A VALID PERMIT, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, KEEP TRACK OF WHAT THOSE VESSELS ARE SO THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO IN THERE AND LOOK AT WHAT THEIR RECORDS SHOW TO ENSURE THAT THE LIVERBOARDS ARE ACTUALLY PERMITTED AND THAT ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND THEN IT'S GONNA LIMIT THE, UH, LIVERBOARD OCCUPANCY COUNT WITHIN THAT MARINA TO 15% OF WHAT THE TOTAL SLIP COUNT IS.
UM, TALKING WITH ONE OF THE LOCAL MARINAS, THEY WERE COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THIS.
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THAT GIVES US ABOUT 90 SLIPS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY MORE THAN 25.SO I WAS, YOU KNOW, FELT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THAT'S NOT, THAT THEY WERE ACTUALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE, UH, THE 15% TOTAL IN IT.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A LIVERBOARD PERMIT.
SO THOSE, THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE ON THOSE BOATS MORE THAN 10 DAYS IN A 30 DAY PERIOD WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THE CITY AND ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A PERMIT.
UM, AND THEN THIS IS THE INFORMATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH THEM IF THERE IS A, ULTIMATELY A PROBLEM WITH THEIR VESSEL.
WE'VE GOT SOME WAY OF GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THOSE FOLKS.
SO THE CONTACT INFORMATION, VESSEL INFORMATION, UM, THEY ARE GONNA BE REQUIRED TO PASS A COAST GUARD, UH, OR COAST GUARD AUXILIARY, UM, SAFETY INSPECTION.
AND THEN WE'RE GONNA WANT INFORMATION ON THE SANITARY SYSTEM.
SO IF THEY'VE GOT BATHROOMS ON BOARD, WE'RE GONNA WANT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS PEOPLE LIVING ON THE BOATS AND ULTIMATELY JUST DUMPING THAT RAW SEWAGE INTO THE MARINAS.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO THE PROPER CLEAN OUT PLACES, WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE FUEL DOCK AT SOUTH SHORE, OR I KNOW THERE'S SOME, UH, I'LL SAY PORTA POTTY, PORTA POTTY STYLE BOATS THAT COME AROUND AND DO THE CLEAN OUTS FOR 'EM.
UM, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVING THAT SANITATION SYSTEM EMPTIED PROPERLY WHERE WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THAT RAW SEWAGE IN OUR WATERWAYS.
UM, THEY ARE GONNA HAVE TO PROVIDE PROOF OF INSURANCE AND THEN OWNERSHIP AUTHORIZATION.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THEY'LL BE REQUIRED TO, UH, GIVE THE, THE CITY CONSENT TO INSPECT THEIR VESSEL.
UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT TO A BACKGROUND CHECK, AND THEN THE VESSEL OWNERS ALSO PROVIDES WRITTEN CONSENT AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO REMOVE THAT VESSEL UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS.
SO THOSE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ARE GONNA BE THAT UNSEE WORTHINESS, IMMINENT THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY, AGAIN, FOLLOWING THAT 10 DAY PERMIT THAT, HEY, YOU'VE, YOU'VE NOW BEEN OUT OF THIS PERMITTING PROCESS.
YOUR PERMIT'S EXPIRED, UM, OR IT'S BEEN REVOKED AND IT'S BEEN OVER 10 DAYS.
THE CITY WOULD THEN STEP IN AND REMOVE IT.
UM, AND THEN, OR, OR FOLLOWING A HEARING IN REGARDS TO THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THE NEXT PART OF THIS ORDINANCE IS GONNA KIND OF LOOK INTO THE ABANDONED VESSELS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE SIMILARLY TO THAT OF JUNK VEHICLES.
UM, ULTIMATELY AN, AN ABANDONED VEHICLE OR ABANDONED VESSELS AND INOPERABLE ROUGHLY MORE THAN FIVE YEARS OF AGE THAT'S BEEN LEFT UNATTENDED ON PUBLIC WATERS DRIFTING, ANCHORED UP ON THE SHORELINE.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR AT LEAST 48 HOURS.
THIS PROCESS THEN GIVES US THE ABILITY TO NOW GO TAG THOSE VESSELS AND THEN START THAT PROCESS OF ACTUALLY WORKING TOWARDS GETTING RID OF THAT BOAT.
UM, A LOT OF THE TIMES WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN RELIANT ON, UM, GLO AND OTHER PARTNERS TO HELP US WITH THIS.
SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD IS THAT GLO WILL SUPPORT, ULTIMATELY OUR ABILITIES TO DO IT OURSELVES WITHOUT HAVING TO PULL THEM INTO IT EVERY SINGLE TIME.
SO THIS JUST KIND OF HELPS US DEAL WITH THOSE ABANDONED VESSELS AND DEAL WITH THEM RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
UM, ULTIMATELY AFTER, UH, THE, THERE'S A 20 DAY WAITING PERIOD, IF NOTHING HAPPENS WITH THAT VESSEL, WITHIN 20 DAYS, WE WE'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE LAST REGISTERED OWNER THROUGH EITHER PARKS AND WILDLIFE DOCUMENTATION, UM, RUN INTO VIN NUMBERS OR THE, THE WHOLE IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS, BUT NOTIFYING THEM AFTER THAT PERIOD.
IF, IF NOTHING IS DONE, THEN THE CITY HAS THE OPTIONS TO EITHER TURN THOSE VESSELS OVER TO AN LIKE GLO OR GALVESTON COUNTY, UM, OR SEND IT TO AUCTION.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEN FOLLOWING THE CITY'S PROCEDURES, WE WAIT 90 DAYS FOR THE CLAIMING OF THOSE FUNDS AND THEN KIND OF GO FROM THERE WITH THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, WHICH IS THE, UH, THE HOT TOPIC ON THE LAKE IS THE, THE DERELICT BOATS.
SO ULTIMATELY A DERELICT BOAT IS, UM, A SELF-PROPELLED WATERCRAFT THAT MEETS ALSO THE DEFINITION OF A JUNK VEHICLE THAT IS DISMANTLED, PARTLY DISMANTLED, DISCARDED, INOPERABLE.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR MORE THAN 72 HOURS.
UM, AND THIS ORDINANCE ULTIMATELY DICTATES THAT A DERELICT VESSEL VESSEL IS CONSIDERED A PUBLIC, UH, NUISANCE FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY.
UM, AS IT ULTIMATELY THEN CAUSES OTHER PROBLEMS DOWN THE LINE.
THEY GET ABANDONED, THEY SIT THERE WHILE WE GO THROUGH OTHER PROCESSES, THEY END UP SINKING, AND THEN IT JUST BECOMES, YOU KNOW, BY THE DAYS GO BY, IT BECOMES MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE TO REMOVE THESE BOATS.
SO, JUST SOME ROUGH NUMBERS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM ONE OF THE TOW COMPANIES TO REMOVE A BOAT WHEN IT'S STILL FLOATING IS ROUGHLY $250 A FOOT.
ONCE IT'S SUNK, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 500 PLUS DOLLARS A FOOT.
SO FOOT ON THE LENGTH OF THE VESSEL OR THE DISTANCE, YEAH, SORRY, PER FOOT ON THE BOAT.
SO IT GETS REALLY, REALLY EXPAND.
I MEAN, ALMOST DOUBLES IN COST RIGHT OFF THE BAT, IF NOT HIGHER THAN THAT BY WAITING A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THESE.
SO ULTIMATELY, THIS ORDINANCE IS KIND OF GEARED TO WHERE WE CAN HOPEFULLY INTERVENE BEFORE IT GETS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S GONNA COST A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UM, AS I STATED, ALL DERELICT VESSELS IN THE CITY ARE GONNA BE DECLARED
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A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND ARE SUBJECT TO ABATEMENT.AND THEN PRIOR TO ANY ABATEMENT, UM, ACTION, THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THE LAST USER, UM, ANY RECORDED LIEN HO LIEN HOLDERS ON IT, AND THEN THE OWNER OF THE OCCUPANT OF WHICH THE PROPERTY OF THE VEHICLE IS ACTUALLY LOCATED ON.
SO, WHERE THE BOAT CURRENTLY IS, UM, THERE IS AN APPEALS PROCESS IN THIS.
SO IF WE'RE, WE'RE CLAIMING YOUR VESSEL MEETS THE DEFINITION OF DERELICT VESSEL, WE SERVE YOU WITH A NOTICE WITHIN THAT 10 DAY TIME PERIOD, YOU ARE THEN ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY APPEAL THAT TO THE MUNICIPAL COURT AND REQUEST A TRIAL TO ACTUALLY DETERMINE IF THAT VESSEL DOES NEED TO BE REMOVED, IF IT DOES MEET ALL THE CRITERIA OF THAT.
SO THERE ARE SOME APPEALS PROCESSES, SOME CHECKS AND BALANCES ESSENTIALLY, THAT'S BUILT INTO THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS ORDINANCE WILL ALSO GIVE US THE ABILITY TO REMOVE THESE VESSELS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO BASICALLY IF IT'S, IF IT'S DEEMED A PUBLIC HEALTH, A NAVIGATION HAZARD, THERE'S AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT THAT'S HAPPENING.
SO, YOU KNOW, IS IT SINKING IN THE MIDDLE OF A CHANNEL? IS IT LEAKING FUEL? IS IT LEAKING, YOU KNOW, SEWAGE? THAT, THAT THEN GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DECLARE THIS AS AN EMERGENCY REMOVAL.
AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO THEN REMOVE THAT VESSEL, STOP THAT IMMINENT PROBLEM, AND THEN ADDRESS IT AFTER THE FACT WITHOUT HAVING TO DEAL WITH IT THEN.
SO THAT WAS A VERY, VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS.
THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT FOR YOU GUYS TO VOTE ON.
UM, OUR GOAL HERE WAS TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND THEN GET YOUR COMMENTS ON WHAT YOU DO AND DON'T LIKE FROM IT, AND LET US KIND OF MASSAGE THIS ORDINANCE AND BRING IT BACK FOR, UH, APPROVAL IN THE COMING COMING MEETINGS.
YEAH, I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UH, ABOUT WHY I I PUSH FOR THIS.
SO THIS CAME OUT OF A KIND OF SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE ALL HAPPENING AT ONCE.
UH, I THINK WE CAN ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN THERE WAS A, A MURDER AT, UH, AT ONE OF THE MARINAS WITH THE LIVERBOARD.
AND THEN JUST A COUPLE DAYS LATER AFTER THAT, THERE WAS, UH, ANOTHER, I THINK IT WAS AN ASSAULT AND IT WAS ALL HAD TO DO WITH, WITH DRUGS.
AND SO KIND OF IN THAT INVESTIGATION, UH, I THINK IT WAS UNCOVERED THAT, I MEAN, SOME OF THESE WERE IN TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE SHAPE TO THE POINT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THESE WERE ON LAND, NOBODY WOULD EVER BE ALLOWED TO LIVE IN A, IN THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY, THAT THEY WERE UNDER.
AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WENT TO A BEHE MEETING WITH ALL THE OTHER MAYORS FROM AROUND THE LAKE AND, UH, ORGANIZATION CAME UP AND SPOKE, UH, ABOUT THE ISSUE OF DERELICT BOATS IN THE LAKE.
AND I, I WAS, YOU KNOW, I GOT ON THE LAKE, I'M FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH THE NUMBER THAT WERE OUT THERE, BUT THEY SAID THERE WAS SOMETHING LIKE 25 DERELICT BOATS THAT WERE, THAT HAD EITHER SUNK OR WERE IN THE PROCESS OF SINKING.
AND SO I KIND OF WENT OUT TO GO FIND SOME OF THESE, AND SOME OF 'EM WERE VERY BAD.
YOU SAW LIKE THE, THE SAILBOAT WITH JUST THE MAST STICKING OUT.
AND OF COURSE THAT IS A HUGE NAVIGATION ISSUE.
IF IT'S DARK OR IF YOU JUST DON'T SEE IT THAT'S GOING TO, AND YOU HIT THE MAST ON A BOAT GOING ANY AMOUNT OF SPEED, THAT WOULD BE TERRIBLE.
THE OTHER PART IS JUST THE COST.
AND SOME OF THESE WERE ABANDONED AND JUST ANCHORED OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LAKE.
THE ISSUE WITH THAT IS, OF COURSE, IT'S MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE TO REMOVE THEM AFTER THEY SINK.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IF THERE WAS A STORM AND THOSE BOATS COME LOOSE, NOW YOU HAVE LARGE PIECES FLOATING INTO, IN THE, IN THE LAKE CAUSING MORE DAMAGE TO PEOPLE'S BULKHEADS, CAUSING MORE DAMAGE TO, YOU KNOW, ROADS AND BRIDGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO FROM THOSE TWO CONVERSATIONS STARTED INVESTIGATING WHAT IS OUR POLICY AND WHAT DO WE HAVE, AND, AND REALLY KIND OF FOUND THAT WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY ADDRESSED IT.
AND SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST, I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ABOUT A YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT, UH, THAT'S REALLY WHERE IT CAME FROM.
AND THEN THIS IS REALLY THE FIRST STEP.
UH, I COMMITTED TO THE OTHER MAYORS THERE, UH, FROM ALL THE SMALLER CITIES THAT WE WOULD KIND OF TAKE THE LEAD ON THIS OF DEVELOPING THE ORDINANCE.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'LL BRING IT TO THE REST OF THE MAYORS.
AND WE NEED TO HAVE A UNIFORM POLICY BECAUSE JUST 'CAUSE THE BOATS SUNK IN LEAGUE CITY DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT WON'T BREAK FREE AND FLOAT INTO KEMA OR FLOAT INTO CLEAR LAKE SHORES OR WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND ON TOP OF THIS, THE, THE, UH, MAYORS FROM THE, UH, FROM HARRIS COUNTY HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, PRECINCT TWO AND ADRIAN GARCIA, AND THEY HAVE SET ASIDE SOME MONEY IN THE PRECINCT TWO BUDGET TO HELP REMOVE THE BOATS.
SO IF WE CAN GET 'EM TO THE DOCK, THEY WILL THEN, UH, PICK 'EM UP WITH, WITH HARRIS COUNTY EQUIPMENT AND REMOVE THEM FROM THE DOCK.
SO IT'S GONNA BE SOME, ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT ALL EIGHT OR NINE CITIES AND THE TWO COUNTIES HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO KIND OF CLEAR UP THIS MESS.
AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MESS DOESN'T CONTINUE TO GET WORSE IN THE FUTURE AND GET AHEAD OF IT.
AND FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE, I, I DON'T VOTE.
UM, SO I MIGHT BE ASKING TERMINOLOGY THAT I DON'T, THAT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
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USE THE TERM SEAWORTHY.I ASSUME THE ALTERNATE TO THAT IS UNSEE WORTHY AND THAT THE TERM DERELICT IS SOME SUBSET OF UNSEAWORTHY.
SO, UM, I WOULD PUT DERELICT IN A DILAPIDATED STRUCTURE IN THE SAME CATEGORY.
SO AN ABANDONED HOUSE THAT'S JUST COMPLETELY FALLEN APART, FALLEN DOWN IS EQUAL TO THAT OF WHAT A DERELICT BOAT WOULD BE.
SO JUST IN A, IN A, A STATE OF DISREPAIR AND SIGN BAD DISREPAIR.
SO, BUT, BUT SEAWORTHY VERSUS UNSEE WORTHY, IT COULD BE A HOUSE THAT'S NOT READY TO MOVE IN YET 'CAUSE THE WATER'S NOT TURNED ON, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS FINE, SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.
UM, ON THE, UH, SEAWORTHY DEFINITION, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT THE, UH, ABILITY TO MOVE ITSELF, WHETHER THAT BE, UM, THROUGH A MOTOR OR THROUGH A SAIL.
UM, IS THERE A CONDITION REGARDING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE SEAWORTHY DEFINITION? I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S IN THE SEAWORTHY DEFINITION.
UM, AND THEN MICHELLE'S TRYING TO FIND IT.
THERE'S A PORTION IN THERE THAT DOES STATE THAT IT HAS TO HAVE, IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, UNDER ITS OWN PROPULSION, NAVIGATION SYSTEM HAS TO WORK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YES, THERE'S SOME, IT DOES HAVE TO HAVE ITS OWN PROPULSION.
I KNOW A LOT OF, UM, BOATS HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO USE BUILD PUMPS, AND SO THEY TALK ABOUT THE CONTINUOUS USE OF BUILD PUMP IS NOT NECESSARILY A, A, AN INDICATOR THAT IT'S ABSOLUTELY PER SE OR, UM, THAT IT'S UNSEEN WORTHY.
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY A FACTOR TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION ALL OF THESE.
WE CAN'T FIND A, A SERIOUS DEFINITION.
WE KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND JUST KIND OF MAKE THE CASE.
THE, THE REASON I WAS ASKING, I, I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT SOME OF THESE LIVERBOARDS, USUALLY THE ONES THAT ARE THE, THE, THE ISSUES ARE OFTEN BOATS THAT QUIT RUNNING.
UM, SO THEN PEOPLE JUST HAUL 'EM OVER TO THE MARINA AND SOMEBODY ELSE LIVES ON IT.
UM, SO I DIDN'T SEE A CONDITION FOR THE L BOARDS THAT THEY NEED TO HAVE A WORKING MEANS OF PROPULSION.
AND IF IT'S NOT OKAY, IT CERTAINLY SHOULD BE THERE, THERE IS A, ANYWAY, WITHOUT, THERE IS A PORTION IN THERE THAT DOES SAY IT DOES HAVE TO OPERATE UNDER ITS OWN PROPULSION.
AND IT DOES, AGAIN, IT HAS TO HAVE ITS OWN IT NAVIGATION SYSTEMS HAVE TO WORK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO YEAH, IT, IT'S IN THERE, BUT IF WE CAN DEFINITELY PROBABLY LOOK AT ADDING THAT INTO A DEFINITION JUST TO MAKE IT COMPLETELY, IT, IT WASN'T IN THE CHARTS.
I, I REALIZE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FULL LANGUAGE IN THERE.
I JUST WANTED MAKE SURE THAT WAS A CONDITION, UM, FOR THE LIVERBOARDS.
UM, AND SELF-PROPELLED EXCLUDES ORS, RIGHT? UH, CORRECT.
WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE A EXACT DISCUSSION ON THAT, AND THAT WAS OR WOULD NOT COUNT.
SO ON ITS OWN PROPULSION APPLIED TO A SAILBOAT, A FUNCTIONAL MAST WITH A SAIL FUNCTIONAL MAST IN SAILS.
WHO WAS OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE.
UH, CHIEF, I WAS WONDERING A COUPLE THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED FAR ALARM NEED TO EVACUATE OR
UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THIS DURING I GUESS HARVEY, WHEN WE WERE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH, UH, THE SAME SITUATION, 4 51 CONSTELLATION DAVIS ROAD.
DAVIS ROAD IS PRIVATELY OWNED.
EACH SPACE THERE IS OWNED BY A PERSON.
IT'S NOT A MARINA 4 51 CONSTELLATION IS NOT A MARINA, CYPRESS BAY IS NOT A MARINA.
BUT YOUR DEFINITION UNDER MARINA MEANS A PORTION OF A DOCK, PIER HARBOR FLOAT OR ANY PROPERTY PROVIDING SHORELINE, UTILITIES OR SERVICES.
I THINK EVEN A RESIDENTIAL DOCK COULD FALL UNDER THAT SAME DEFINITION.
SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME CLARIFICATION.
IF IT'S NOT A MARINA, WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEFINITION BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE MARINA READING YOUR ORDINANCE TALKS ABOUT YOU HAD TO HAVE A HARBOR MASTER AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE CERTAIN THINGS, YOU GOTTA KEEP RECORDS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT AT FOUR 50, UH, 4 51 CONSTELLATION OR EVEN DAVIS ROAD IS GONNA BE THE PROBLEM.
'CAUSE WE, THEY'RE ALL PRIVATELY OWNED.
JUST, IT'S NOT A MARINA AND NOBODY REALLY OWNS IT.
BUT THAT, THAT, THAT PERSON THAT OWNS A BOAT, UH, SO WE'RE GONNA REALLY HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
THE OTHER THING, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER DURING THE HURRICANE, WE HAD A LOT OF BOATS FROM DIFFERENT AREAS COMING INTO LEAGUE CITY, AND THEY WOULD PARK IN A MARINA, JUST TAKE A SPOT AND TIE UP AND, AND LEAVE.
WE NEED TO HAVE SOME LANGUAGE, I GUESS, IN THE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THAT AND MAKE MAYBE THE MARINA RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE I MEAN, THE FIRST THING THAT HAPPENS DURING A HURRICANE, EVERYBODY WILL COME INTO A CANAL AND THEY, THEY WILL DOCK THEIR BOAT INTO A CANAL IN SAFE WATERWAY.
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AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL BOATS THAT HAPPEN TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, DROWNED DURING THE, THE, THE HEAVY RAINS AND WE HAVE PROBLEMS. SO, UM, JUST TO ADDRESS THEM ISSUES, I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS GOOD.AND THE OTHER THING I THINK, UH, IS THE PERMIT GONNA BE AN ANNUAL PERMIT FOR RIVER BOARD? YEP.
AND DO WE KNOW THE COST YET? UH, WE HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT THE, THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
I BELIEVE IT'S WAY IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE.
IT'S NOT TO EXCEED WHAT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ARE.
UM, WHEN WE BRING THIS BACK, I BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE A, A FEE SCHEDULE ASSOCIATED WITH IT AT THAT TIME.
UH, YEAH, TOMMY HIT ON ONE OF THE POINTS.
I JUST WAS LOOKING FOR DISTINCTION BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
UM, TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAINING THAT'LL BE INVOLVED FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR DETERMINING SEAWORTHINESS.
IS IT JUST UNDERSTANDING THE, THE CODE AND FAMILIARIZE THEMSELVES WITH IT? OR IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE BEYOND THAT? I MEAN, SO THE, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, IT'S IT, I'LL SAY FAIRLY CLEAR.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURAL DAMAGE, UM, UH, THEY'RE TAKING ON WATER, THEY'VE GOT ELECTRICAL PROBLEMS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WE WILL PROBABLY BE LEANING SOMEWHAT ON THE COAST GUARD TO HELP US WITH SOME OF THAT.
A LOT OF THE BOATS FALL UNDER THAT, THEIR PURVIEW.
UM, SO IT, I WOULD BE REACHING OUT WITH THE COAST GUARD AND TRYING TO GET THEIR GUYS OUT TO COME DO THEIR SAFETY INSPECTIONS ON THEM WITH US UNTIL THE, UNTIL WE CAN GET EVERYBODY UP TO SPEED AND COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
NOW, IF WE, UH, AND, AND I'M JUST GOING THROUGH SOME HYPOTHETICALS HERE, BUT, UM, IF WE DETERMINE ONE IS ISN'T C WORTHY, BUT THERE'S A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO TRY TO GET IT, YOU KNOW, IN COMPLIANCE, BUT SOME OF THE PARTS ARE, ARE LONGER LEAD, IS THERE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE, LIKE BEYOND THE 10 DAYS FOR, YOU KNOW, A MASS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, GENERALLY OUR GOAL IS COMPLIANCE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA WRITE TICKETS, WE DON'T WANNA PUT PEOPLE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, DISPLACE THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IF THEY'RE MAKING THOSE EFFORTS TO MAKE THOSE REPAIRS AND THEY'VE GIVE US SOME SORT OF A, HEY LOOK, WE'VE ORDERED IT.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, 45 DAYS BEFORE THE WHATEVER'S IN, HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IN THE MEANTIME.
WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO ENSURE THAT, TO ALLOW THEM TO AT LEAST MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.
UH, LAST QUESTION IS ON THE, UH, THE BACKGROUND CHECK.
WHAT, UH, WHAT WOULD SOME OF THE DISQUALIFIERS BE FOR GRANTING APARTMENT? UM, IN THIS CASE IT WOULD BE, WE WOULD LOOK TO THE LOCATION OF THE MARINA OR WHERE THE BOAT'S GONNA BE LOCATED.
WE HAVE THIS PROVISION THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T, IF YOU'RE ON ONE OF THE SEX OFFENDER LISTS, YOU CAN'T BE LOCATED WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF A PLACE WHERE SCHOOLS OR WHERE CHILDREN CONGREGATE.
SO WE WOULD LOOK AND KIND OF ANALYZE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A DISQUALIFIER.
IF THEY'RE BOTH HIT A CONVICTION FOR THAT.
AND ALSO THEY HAPPEN TO WANT TO LIVE ON A BOARD OR LIVE ON A BOAT SOMEWHERE NEAR A PLACE WHERE CHILDREN ARE NEAR.
OH, YOU'RE TESTING THE SYSTEM.
WHEN THESE BOATS ARE PARTICULARLY THE DERELICT ONES, UM, WE CAN USUALLY FIND AN OWNER OF RECORD AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
BUT RARELY THE CURRENT, IT'S, SO THE GLO HAS BEEN HANDLING A LOT OF THIS, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S, I'LL SAY 50 50 AT BEST MAYBE.
AND THE, THE OWNERS THAT WE DO FIND, THEY SOLD THAT BOAT 10, 15, 20 YEARS AGO.
UM, WHICH IS WHY THE REQUIREMENT FOR US WAS WE HAVE TO NOTIFY THE LAST PERSON OF RECORD WHO, WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS WHEN YOU BUY AND SELL BOATS FOR REGISTERING THEM? ONLY IF YOU REGISTER THE BOAT? CAN YOU, OH, SORRY.
HEY JEFF, COULD YOU INTRODUCE THEIR, YOUR PARTNERS FROM GLO? THIS WE HAVE GARRETT FOSSA.
HE'S WITH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND OUR ARES, KURT ADAMS WITH GLO.
AND JOEY, JOEY RES WITH THE GENERAL LAND OFFICE AS WELL.
SO, UH, I'VE RECENTLY WORKED FOR THE COUNTY FOR 30 YEARS.
HIM DEALT, DEALT WITH A LOT OF BOAT ISSUES.
UH, ONLY IF THEY PUT IT ON THE WATER, THEY REALLY HAVE TO HAVE IT REGISTERED, BUT IF THEY DON'T TAKE IT OFF THE DOCK, SO, UH, IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT TEST PARTS OF WILDLIFE WILL CHECK TO SEE IF THAT BOAT IS CURRENT REGISTRATION.
SO REALLY, IF THEY'RE UNDERWAY, I JUST WONDER CHECK FOR REGISTRATION AND IF OF THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S WHETHER PERSONAL WILDLIFE OR A MARINE SAFETY ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAPPENS, STOP YOU TO CHECK YOUR VESSEL.
SO THE PEOPLE HAVE A A, I'LL JUST GO WITH SOMETHING.
I, SO, AND WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, SO ON SEPTEMBER 1ST STOPPED AT A JET SKI.
2017 WAS, UH, LAST EIGHT THAT WAS REGISTERED.
SO THEY'D BEEN DRIVING AROUND FOR EIGHT YEARS WITHOUT BEING STOPPED.
AND OF COURSE HE GOT IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE WHO GRABBED FROM SOMEONE ELSE.
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NEVER GOT REGISTERED IN THAT WHOLE TIMEFRAME.BUT I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ISSUES WE HAD IN CALTON COUNTY WAS PEOPLE HAVING BOATS NOT REGISTERING THEM AND THEN DUMPING THEM WHETHER THEY WERE ON LAND OR IN THE WATER.
THE, THE REASON I ASKED, I, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEANS TO GO BACK ON THE RESPONSIBLE PARTIES COVER THIS COST.
UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, SOME OF THESE ARE GONNA GET FAIRLY EXPENSIVE TO MANAGE.
UH, AND I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHILE, WHILE WE ARE, WHAT IS IT, THE THIRD LARGEST BOATING COMMUNITY IN THE COUNTRY, THERE'S STILL PROBABLY 90% OF LEAGUE CITY THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BOAT, UM, OUTSIDE OF ONE WASHING UP ON THEIR HOUSE IN A STORM.
THE ONES BLOCKING THE WATERWAYS NOT REALLY AN ISSUE FOR THEM.
I FEEL BAD STICKING THEM WITH A BILL, NOT SAYING WE HAVE ANOTHER OPTION, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF THERE WAS.
UM, AND I JUST WONDER IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO AND ASKING OUR, OUR FRIENDS IN AUSTIN TO DO, UM, THAT THAT MAYBE PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF A KICK IN THE REAR FOR FOLKS TO, TO UPDATE THE OWNERSHIP.
SO I, IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE I SOLD MY BOAT, IF I DON'T TELL THEM RIGHT WHO BOUGHT IT, IT CAN STILL COME BACK ON ME.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT THE FUNDING, OBVIOUSLY I THINK THE FUNDING WILL OCCUR ON THE LIVERBOARDS RIGHT.
THAT'LL, THAT PROGRAM WILL FUND ITSELF.
BUT THE DERELICT BOAT SIDE, THERE IS NO OBVIOUS FUNDING SOURCE.
AND SO I, I KNOW WE'VE EXPLORED IT OR TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, A $5 A MONTH FEE ON THE MARINAS PER BOAT TO USE THAT AS I DIDN'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, SOME KIND OF DEAL WHERE WE COULD GET SOME FUNDS BECAUSE I THINK THE GLO DOESN'T HAVE A, A SURPLUS OF MONEY TO, UH, HELP US REMOVE THESE BOATS EITHER, UNFORTUNATELY.
WHICH IS THE OTHER REASON WHY GETTING TO THE DERELICT BOATS BEFORE THEY SINK IS, IS A MUCH, UH, YOU KNOW, MUCH MORE COST EFFECTIVE WAY OF DEALING IT, DEALING WITH IT THAN WAITING TILL THEM TO SINK.
UH, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA ALSO SEE MAYOR, THE, WITH RECORD KEEPING AT THE MARINAS MM-HMM
AND CODE ENFORCEMENT FORCING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, LESS DELIC BOATS IN THE CITY TO DEAL WITH.
BUT RIGHT NOW, IF YOU GO UP AND DOWN SOME OF THESE DOCKS, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THEM.
SO, SO YOU THINK WE JUST HAVE SOME CLEANUP TO DO FROM YEARS, SO NOT HAVING DONE IT AND THEN IT'LL, I I BELIEVE THAT'S SETTLE IN THAT LESS OF AN ISSUE.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO WHERE IT COMES TO PARTNERING WITH THE OTHER CITIES.
BECAUSE WE COULD CLEAN UP OUR HOUSE, BUT IF THE OTHER EIGHT CITIES DON'T, BUT I DO THINK THAT EVERYBODY'S ON, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM THEM, EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE RECOGNIZING THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO WORK, UH, TOGETHER TO, TO ADDRESS.
ONE, UH, ONE, ONE, UH, CONCERN I HAD IS, UH, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE BOAT OWNERS IF THERE, IF THERE IS A MEANS TO GET OUTTA THE SITUATION, BUT IS THERE SOME SORT OF GRACE PERIOD AND SAY A POST HURRICANE SITUATION, UM, I KNOW I'VE HAD A BOAT IN A MARINE AFTER HURRICANE AND, AND A LOT OF THEM WERE TIED UP IN INSURANCE CLAIMS FOR MONTHS WITH A DAMAGE.
UM, HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THAT? MY, MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS IF, IF THEY'VE GIVE US A PLAN, HEY, THIS IS WHAT I'VE GOT GOING ON, THIS IS WHAT I'M DOING, AND IT'S NOT CREATING A, AN IMMINENT HAZARD.
I, I WOULD SAY THAT PENDING THE CITY MANAGER'S APPROVAL OF IT, WE WOULD WORK WITH THEM AND, AND, AND WORK THROUGH THAT WITH THEM.
AGAIN, NOT TO PUT AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE ALREADY TERRIBLE, PROBABLY BAD SITUATION THAT WE'VE HAD TO COME THROUGH.
SO WITH, UH, HURRICANE IKE MM-HMM
SO WHAT WE DID, IF, IF SOMEONE WAS WORKING AND THIS COVER FOR BOTH HOUSES AND OR BOATS, I WAS OVER OF DEBRIS MANAGEMENT FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, IF THEY HAVE AN INSURANCE CLAIM, ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS SEND US A COPY OF THE INSURANCE CLAIM AND WE WORK WITH THEM UNTIL, 'CAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE INTO COURT WITH FIRMS, INSURANCE COMPANIES AND WORK WITH THEM UNTIL THAT CAME UP TO PRISON WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO YOUR NEIGHBORS MM-HMM
JEFF, IS THERE A, LIKE, IF, IF THERE'S A PERSON THAT'S WANTING TO, LIKE A HOBBY TO REBUILD, UH, A BOAT, MAYBE THEY GET ONE IN POOR SHAPE, MAYBE THEY'RE TRYING TO JUST RE UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK LIKE REFURBISH OR, OR WHATEVER LIKE THAT.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE CITY AND LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.
THIS IS A HOBBY AND THIS IS MY GOAL TO WHERE THE CITY WON'T JUST, UH, FALL IMMEDIATELY GO TO THESE
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CRIMINAL CHARGES.IS THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AVAILABLE CURRENTLY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE? THERE'S NOT AN EXCEPTION, UM, FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY.
SO IT WOULD ALL COME DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, GIVING US A PLAN, GIVING US A TIMELINE, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE WORKING ON, YOU KNOW, IS IT A SIX MONTH ORDEAL OR WE LOOKING AT REBUILDING A BOAT TOP TO BOTTOM OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS? UM, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD THAT THAT'S THE CASE WHERE THEY'RE NOT OPERATIONAL AND THEY'VE JUST BEEN SLOWLY WORKING ON 'EM OVER 15 YEARS.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE AGAIN, SOME OF THE ONES THAT ARE ALSO THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'RE HAVING AS WELL.
L CHIEF, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT A IDENTIFICATION, UH, DECAL OR SOMETHING FOR LIVERBOARDS? 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE VERY HARD EVEN FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT GOING DOWN THE PIER AT NIGHT TO SEE IS SOMEBODY IN THIS BOAT, YOU KIND OF ASSUME THERE'S NOT, OR YOU ASSUME THERE IS UNTIL YOU FIND OUT THERE'S NOBODY LIVING ON THE BOARD.
UH, BUT IS THERE YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY DO A, LIKE A STICKER LIKE WE DID WITH THE FOOD TRUCKS AND UH, SOME OTHER ONES GET A, SOMEWHERE A PERMIT IDENTIFIED ON THE BOAT REGISTRATION.
LIKE A LAKE CITY REGISTRATION THAT IDENTIFIES A LIVERBOARD AND, UH, AND THEN JEFF COULD OH, GO AHEAD.
COULD YOU GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO, UH, TO MAYBE THERE'S HOBBYISTS AND JUST LET ME JUST KIND OF THROW SOME, UH, SOME IDEAS OF WHAT YOU HAVE WHERE WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S AN ISSUE OR NOT, BUT IT'S, IT'S A CONCERN THAT I'M JUST GETTING FROM HEARING THE DISCUSSIONS.
I, I'D SHARE THAT CONCERN, BUT, UM, I ALSO DON'T WANT IT TO BE USED TO SKIRT THE ORDINANCE TOO, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK AT SOME OPTIONS AND, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.
AND, UH, COUNCILMAN COS BROUGHT UP.
YOU KNOW, THE, CURRENTLY THE ORDINANCE ON THIS IMPACTS THE MARINAS, BUT I DO THINK IT'S WORTHWHILE EXTENDING IT OUT TO THE PRIVATE DOCKS AS WELL AND HOW WE WOULD DO THAT IN, IN TERMS OF SEAWORTHINESS OF THE PRIVATE DOCKS.
WE'D HATE TO, YOU CAN'T HAVE A BOAT SINK ON DAVIS OR SINK ON CONSTELLATION, JUST LIKE YOU, YOU WOULDN'T WANT IT SINKING AT THE MARINAS.
SO, UH, IF WE COULD LOOK TO, TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
AND, AND EVEN TO A GREATER POINT, YOU WOULDN'T WANT LIVERBOARDS IN THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
I MEAN, THAT WOULD EVEN IMPACT PEOPLE MORE BECAUSE THE LIVERBOARD WOULD BE KIND OF NEXT TO TWO PEOPLE'S HOUSES.
SO I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO EXTEND A COMPLETE BAN ON LIVERBOARDS AT, AT SOME OF THESE PRIVATE DOCKS THAT ARE NON, THAT ARE NOT IN THE MARINAS, AND THEN EXTEND THE SEAWORTHINESS REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
SO IN, IN GENERAL, THE SEAWORTHINESS WOULD APPLY TO ANY BOAT WITHIN THE WATERWAYS OKAY.
I THINK THAT THE HARDEST THING THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IS THE DEFINITION OF WHAT A MARINA IS BECAUSE 4 51 CONSTELLATION, RIGHT.
THEY DO HAVE LIVERBOARDS DAVIS ROAD DOES HAVE LIVERBOARDS AND THEY'RE NOT MARINAS.
OH, HAVE THAT MARINA, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A HARBOR MASTER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE AT THE WHARF.
I MEAN THE WHARF IS, IS THE PRIMARY PROBLEM.
AND, UH, I THINK OUR, WE, WHAT DO WE, CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE A HARBOR MASTER AT THE WHARF? AND HOW THAT, UH, HOW THAT SPECIFICALLY IMPACTS IT? WELL, CURRENTLY, UM, UNDER THE SECTION THAT'S ENTITLED SEAWORTHY STANDARDS, IT DOES ACTUALLY SAY THAT ALL VESSELS, AND IT'S NOT JUST IN MARINAS, UM, WITHIN ANY WATERWAY, AND THE DEFINITION OF WATERWAY IS VERY, VERY BROAD.
SO IT WOULD INCLUDE MORE THAN JUST THE MARINAS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE REMAIN AND SEAWORTHY CONDITION.
WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK TOWARDS.
UM, ALSO THE WATERWAY, UM, CATEGORY APPLIES TO THE LIVERBOARD PERMIT.
SO IT COULD APPLY TO THOSE SINGLE OR THOSE RESIDENTIAL SLIPS OR SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DO THAT.
W WOULD IT BE EASIER TO JUST BE IN LIVERBOARDS ANYWHERE OUTSIDE OF ESTABLISHED MARINAS? WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE AT THE MARINA YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR TRACKING THINGS AND SO FORTH AT THESE, THESE PRIVATE ONES YOU DON'T.
SO THAT WOULD ELIMINATE, I I GIVE YOU THE BULK OF THE PROBLEMS. RIGHT.
I'LL GIVE YOU A PRIME EXAMPLE WOULD BE TWIN, TWIN TIMBERS MARINA THAT WAS RECENTLY PURCHASED.
YOU, YOU DO NOT HAVE A, UM, HARBOR MASTER OR MARINA.
I MEAN, IT IS A MARINA, BUT IT, IT, THERE'S NOBODY THERE 24 HOURS, UM, TO TAKE CARE OF THE VESSELS.
AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OF AND JUST KIND OF DEFINE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE FUTURE.
SO TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE WHARF, I, I THINK WHEN WE START LOOKING AT THE SEAWORTHINESS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME IMPACT OVER THERE.
THOSE ARE ALL INDEPENDENTLY OWNED, WHICH KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE DAVIS ROAD TYPE, UM, BOAT SLIPS AND MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING.
I KNOW AT ONE POINT THEY DID HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONDOS THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RESTROOM FACILITIES.
UM, BUT THEY, YEAH, THEY DO NOT HAVE A HARBOR MASTER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S OWNED BY, IT'S RUN BY A, ESSENTIALLY
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A SEPARATE HOA THAT'S OVER JUST THAT.AND THEY DON'T HAVE FACILITIES FOR PUMP OUT OR ANYTHING.
THAT IS, AND AND CHIEF ALSO, JUST ONE OTHER THING.
I KNOW THAT WHEN WE GET THE FIREBOAT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, TAKING THE FIREBOAT OUT.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF COMPANIES, THERE'S ONE IN CLEAR LAKE SHORES I KNOW OF ONE ACROSS ON NASSAU ROAD ONE.
HAVE Y'ALL REACHED OUT TO, TO THAT COMPANY MAYBE TO SEE IF WE DID HAD THE CAPABILITIES TO TAKE A BOAT THERE? THEY COULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE, WITH THE SLING AND YEAH, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO SOME OF THE, UH, I THINK MARINE MAX IS ONE OF 'EM.
THEY'VE OFFERED TO HELP US OUT ANYTIME.
WE JUST HAVE TO GET IT TO THEM.
SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD DO THAT.
MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE, THE COMPANIES, UH, AROUND THAT ARE ON THE LAKE THAT WE COULD PULL THEM, PULL A BOAT TO OR WHATEVER.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THE DERELICT, UH, BOAT ORGANIZATION, UM, AND, AND ARE IN AGREEANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, ANY, THEY'RE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO HELP.
AS LONG AS THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN I THINK EVERYBODY CHEW ON IT.
GET, UH, IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING LATER, GET IT TO STAFF AND WE'LL BRING IT BACK, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS.
NOW AT 5 36 THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING ADJOURNED.