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[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
UH, MOVE FORWARD.THE FIRST THING ON OUR AGENDA IS, UH, ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS.
SO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, UH, QUORUM, SO WE'LL CALL THE MEETING TO
[2. Approval of November 18, 2024 minutes]
ORDER.FIRST ITEM THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE, UH, NOVEMBER 18TH MEETING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ADDITIONS ON THOSE MINUTES? IF NOT, WE'LL JUST CONSIDER THOSE APPROVED AS SUBMITTED.
THE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM THAT WE HAVE, UH, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CITIZEN COMMUNICATION.
AND IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IS NOT INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE
[4. Public Hearing and Action Items]
NONE.SO WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AND THAT WOULD BE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEMS. AND THE, UH, SUBJECT IS WHOLLY PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL ON A SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION SUP 24 0 0 0 4 K-S-S-G-H GAS STATION C STORE TO ALLOW A GAS STATION WITH A CONVENIENCE STORE.
YOU GOT ALL THESE, THIS IS PRETTY WEIRD TRYING TO READ THAT.
YOU KNOW, AUTOMOBILE VEHICLE FUELING STATION USE ON APPROXIMATELY 2.363 ACRES.
ZONED CG GENERAL COMMERCIAL LEGAL DE LEGALLY DESCRIBED AS UNRESTRICTED.
THE RE RESERVE I OF THE MARSHALLS CALDER SUBDIVISION, GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE GULF FREEWAY, SOUTH INTERSTATE I 45 WITH THE ADDRESS OF 2261 GULF FREEWAY LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS 7 7 5 7 3.
MARK, YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, TELL US ABOUT THIS AND YES, SIR.
AND, UH, THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME.
MY NAME IS MARK LENE SCHMIDT, PLANNING MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY.
THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR A, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 7,200 SQUARE FOOT CONVENIENCE STORE, UH, WITH A GAS STATION ON 2.363 ACRES LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF I 45.
THIS IS SOUTH OF LAKE CITY PARKWAY, BUT NORTH OF, UM, BALLPARK DRIVE.
UH, ALONG THE FRONTAGE ROAD, THE GAS STATION WILL, WILL HAVE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 16 FUELING PUMPS.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT GAS STATIONS, WE LOOK AT COMPARABLE GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE I 45 CORRIDOR ITSELF, THERE IS NOT A GAS STATION LESS THAN ONE MILE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
UM, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK ON A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A BUFFER YARD OR A BUFFER AREA, WITHIN ONE MILE, THERE ARE FIVE GAS STATIONS WITHIN TWO MILES.
THERE ARE 13 GAS STATIONS, AND WITHIN THREE MILES, THERE ARE 14 GAS STATIONS BASED ON THE RELATIVE LOCATION ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
THIS LOCATION IS A SUITABLE LOCATION, AGAIN, BEING ALONG THE CORRIDOR.
THERE'S NOT ONE WITHIN A MILE, AND ALL THE OTHER ONES ARE, ARE ALONG THE FIVE 18 AS WELL AS 6 46 AND, UM, LAKE CITY PARKWAY CORRIDORS, THIS IS, AS YOU CAN SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, THIS IS THE LAYOUT OF THE SITE, UM, IDENTIFYING THE 7,200 SQUARE FOOT, UH, DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE.
THEY REQUIRE PARKING AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SIMILAR THINGS THAT STAFF DOES LOOK AT IS WE LOOK AT DRAINAGE TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO UTILITIES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE ELEVATIONS, UH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN THE CONDITIONS.
THERE'S PROPOSED, UH, MASONRY REQUIREMENT FOR BRICK STONE AND STUCCO, AS WELL AS IN INCLUDING, UM, FACADE RELATED TO THE CANOPY FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FUELING STATION.
AND THEN, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THE ILLUSTRATION.
SO AS A RESULT, STAFF'S FINDINGS ARE THAT THE EXISTING SITE CONFORMS WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS, UM, BASED ON ECONOMIC, UH, LET ME BACK UP JUST ONE SECOND.
SO IT DOES CONFORM WITH THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS, UH, ENHANCED AUTO DOMINANT COMMERCIAL.
THE EXISTING SITE DOES HAVE ACCESS ON I 45, AND THE SITE PROVIDES ENHANCED
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STANDARDS SUCH AS ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, AND AS WELL AS THE BACKUP GENERATOR.AGAIN, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER AT THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAD AT I 45 5 18, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW AS A RESULT OF THE EXTREME EVENTS OF THE PAST COUPLE YEARS THAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
SO THAT STATIONS LIKE THIS WILL HAVE, BE ABLE TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE GAS AND HAVE POWER, UM, TO PROVIDE A LITTLE EASE ON THAT SITUATION DURING THOSE EXTREME EVENTS.
AS A RESULT, BASED ON THE CRITERIA, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING, UH, CONDITIONS.
THE FIRST ONE IS OUR TYPICAL TIMEFRAME.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN 24 MONTHS.
THE LIMITED ONSITE USES, AGAIN, WITH THIS BEING AN SUP, WOULD BE LIMITED TO A GAS STATION USES OR WHATEVER'S PERMITTED WITHIN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THE SITE LAYOUT, UH, AS, AND LOCATION IS SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
NUMBER FOUR, AGAIN, IS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE GENERATOR.
NUMBER FIVE IS THE CANOPY LIGHTING.
AGAIN, THIS IS A CONSISTENCY WITH OUR, UH, LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, THE CANOPY LIGHTS HAVE TO BE FULLY SHIELDED, POINTING STRAIGHT DOWN, UH, THE CANOPY ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, MATERIAL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING THAT, THAT LOOKS SIMILAR AND THAT THE ARCHITECTURE IS SIMILAR TO THE BUILDING ONE, THE DUMP, UH, SEVEN, THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS BEING SCREENED IN CONSISTENCY, AGAIN WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
NUMBER EIGHT IS THE FREESTANDING SIGNAGE.
UM, AGAIN, FOR FOR GAS STATIONS, WE TYPICALLY ALLOW, ONLY ALLOW A FREESTANDING MONUMENT SIGN.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE CANOPY SIGNAGE, AND THAT'S WHERE, WHEN IT COMES INTO THE CALCULATION THAT THAT IS CALCULATED TOWARDS THE SIGNAGE WITH THE BUILDING.
I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS HERE SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF HIM AS WELL.
I, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, BUT I'LL WAIT UNTIL AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING OKAY.
TO DO THAT TILL WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION.
UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT REPRESENTS THE, UH, UH, APPLICANT, UH, HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO TALK FOR THREE OR FOUR MINUTES? YOU DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE, WE WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU QUESTIONS AFTER A WHILE ANYWAY, SO IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND JUST TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU, MARK, FOR THE UPDATE.
UH, WE ARE WITH THE HOTELS IN TOWN WITH THE HAMPTON INN CANDLEWOOD SUITES.
UH, WE HAVE COUPLE OF OTHER ONGOING PROJECTS IN LAKE CITY.
UH, WE ARE BUILDING ONE INDEPENDENT LIVING ON HOBBS ROAD 55 PLUS COMMUNITY.
WE JUST BROKE GROUND ON 96 AND 45 FOR A 25,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, RETAIL AND MEDICAL SPACE, UH, USE, UH, OUTLET.
UH, WE HAVE COUPLE OF OTHER LIQUOR STORES AND WHATNOT, BUT WE HAVE BEEN IN LAKE CITY FOR ALMOST NOW, UH, NINE YEAR.
UH, SO THE LAND THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A GAS STATION HAS BEEN IN OUR PORTFOLIO FOR ALMOST, UH, SEVEN YEAR NOW.
UH, WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DEVELOP IT WITH A LOT OF VARIOUS USERS.
IT'S JUST NOT VISIBLE TO DO A LOT OF OTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS.
IT HAS BEEN FOR SALE FOR ALMOST LIKE THREE, FOUR YEAR AND IT'S JUST, JUST NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
SO I THINK THIS, WE DID THE IMSC STUDY FOR THE GAS STATIONS AND, UH, IT CAME OUT REALLY GOOD.
UH, I THINK IT CAN BRING A LOT OF TAX REVENUE TO THE CITY.
UH, IT'S SEWING PROMISING NUMBERS FOR THE GAS PLUS THE CONVENIENCE STORE.
UH, SO I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD USE AND I THINK A CONVENIENT LOCATION FOR PEOPLE TRAVELING ON 45 THAT THEY DON'T HAVE MUCH OPTIONS TO SPEND THEIR GAS MONEY IN LAKE CITY RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, FOR THE, THE LOCAL PEOPLE AROUND TOO, THAT IT'S THERE.
SO, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, I CAN ALWAYS, UH, ANSWER.
YEAH, OR WE, WE HAVE AN ARCHITECT HERE TOO, SO HE CAN ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS AND, AND ONE OF THE PARTNER, SAM, THE ONE THEY'LL BE MANAGING AND OWNING AND RUNNING THE GAS STATION, THEY HAVE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
THEY'RE MANAGING AN OPERATING RIGHT NOW, WHAT, 15 PLUS LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
SO THEY ARE WELL, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, KIND OF, UH, SITUATED WITH THE GAS STATION BUSINESS AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE, UH, DOING.
WE'LL GO AHEAD, UM, AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, 6 0 9.
DO WE HAVE ANYBODY SIGNED UP TO, TO SPEAK OR ANYBODY? IF NOT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, WE OPEN IT AT 6 0 9, WE'LL CLOSE IT AT 6 0 9 AND, UH, AND WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS OF STAFF OR FROM APPLICANTS
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OF APPLICANTS.ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, ARE YOU CURRENTLY OPERATING OR DO YOU OWN ANY OTHER, UH, FUELING STATIONS IN LAKE CITY? NO, NO.
SIR, SIR, IF YOU WOULD COME UP AND SPEAK AT, PLEASE? NO, NOT AT THIS TIME.
AND, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UH, WHAT UH, BRAND OF FUEL ARE YOU GONNA BE SELLING? IT'LL BE A CHEVRON, RIGHT? CHEVRON.
ANYBODY ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, DO YOU INTEND TO ASK FOR ANOTHER CURB CUT OR DID YOU ALREADY EXPLORE THAT? I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY EXPLORED WITH THE TEXT DOT AND, UH, AS PER OUR KNOWLEDGE, I THINK WE'LL NOT NEED ONE.
AND IF NEEDED ONE, WE ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR, THE LUMBER LIQUIDATOR BUILDING.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE ONE UP THERE THAT WE CAN DO ACROSS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL, UM, THE, UH, YEAH, CROSS EXIT EASEMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE? I DO HAVE A QUESTION MARK OF IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, UNDER THE, UH, PROVISIONS FOR THE RECOMMENDATION, YOU, YOU, YOU TALK ONCE AGAIN ABOUT THE GENERATOR THAT'S BEING REQUIRED.
ARE WE REQUIRING THIS BY WAY OF SOME ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE? OR IS IT SOMEBODY JUST HAS A GOOD IDEA AND THINKS IT'S A, A GOOD WAY TO SPEND SOME OF THE APPLICANT'S MONEY? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH THE, THE ONE AT THE CORNER.
THIS STEMMED FROM THE RESULTS OF BARREL.
AND SO SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS, UM, MAINLY TALKING WITH LIKE THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE CAME UP AND CAME UP WITH THE IDEA TO, TO ESTABLISH, BECAUSE WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ESTABLISH MORE, MORE RESILIENCY IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT AS YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE AFTER ACTION KIND OF ISSUES, THE ISSUE IS PEOPLE RE YOU KNOW, BEGINNING THEIR CLEANUP, BEGINNING THEIR RECOVERY, BUT BEING ABLE TO GET THOSE BASIC RESOURCES SUCH AS FUEL WITHIN, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO IT STARTED OUT AS A POLICY AND THAT'S WHERE, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE GAS STATIONS, SINCE THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE SPECIAL USE PERMITS, THAT'S WHERE IT HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO GO THROUGH AS A CONDITION, AS PART OF THE SUP PROCESS.
DO, DO WE, UH, DO WE INTEND TO, TO MAKE IT A, AN ORDINANCE OUT OF IT OR A REQUIREMENT? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW THERE AREN'T, ARE THERE HAVE BEEN ONGOING DISCUSSIONS? I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE THERE IS A DEFINITIVE TIMELINE AS TO IF OR WHEN THAT MAY GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, SOME SORT OF IFICATION.
IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, NOW YOU, YOU YOU, YOU'RE REQUIRING THEM TO START IT UP, CRANK IT UP, BUT WITHIN 24 HOURS OR WHATEVER, HOW LONG ARE THEY EXPECTED TO, TO RUN THIS GENERATOR? AND WHAT IF THEY DON'T WANNA OPEN? ARE YOU GONNA FORCE 'EM TO OPEN WITHOUT POWER? I MEAN, FORCE 'EM TO OPEN AFTER A STORM? MAYBE, MAYBE THEY'RE ALL STRANDED SOMEWHERE.
I, YEAH, I THINK THOSE ARE GOOD QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD ALSO BE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE BUSINESS OWNER BECAUSE WELL, THAT, THAT THEY HAVE BUSINESS, WELL, THAT'S NOT FOR US TO MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK.
BUT, AND THAT'S WHERE PART OF THE GENERATOR ALLOWS THEM TO OPEN UP FOR BUSINESS TO SELL GAS, TO MAKE THE TRANSACTIONS TO, SO THAT WE CAN START GETTING NOT ONLY THEM AS WELL AS OTHER BUSINESSES KIND OF BACK UP AND RUNNING FOR THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY IN THEIR RECOVERY, IN THEIR RECOVERY PHASE OF AN AFTER IN A, IN THE EXTREME OF EXTREME WEATHER.
IN A PERFECT WORLD, IT WOULD BE GREAT THAT THEY WOULD COME IN AND CRANK UP THEIR GENERATORS.
AND I ASSUME THAT THEIR GASOLINE OPERATED AND NOT NATURAL GAS.
IS THERE NATURAL GAS TO THIS FACILITY OR IS THAT A REQUIREMENT? IS IT NATURAL GAS OR GAS OR, I THINK USUALLY THAT BIG OF A SYSTEM WILL BE A NATURAL GAS.
IT'LL BE A NATURAL GAS SYSTEM.
IS THAT WHAT YOUR INTENTION IS AS FAR AS THE GENERATORS ARE CONCERNED? YEAH, THAT'S HOW THEY ARE.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO GET ONE RIGHT NOW FOR THE HOTELS TOO, SO THEY'RE, THEY ARE GAS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW.
SO YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE GENERATOR REQUIREMENT? WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE
WELL, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I KNOW IT'S AN EXPENSE FOR US, BUT I THINK ADD-ON, UH, IT'S A GOOD ADD ON.
IF YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE OPEN, YOU'RE GONNA BE PROUD.
AND I THINK IT'S JUST PRETTY WELL MAKING MONEY AT THAT POINT, BUT AT LEAST GIVING THE SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY, I THINK, UH, IT HELPS.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE HAVE DONE THAT AGAIN, AGAIN FOR THE HOTELS AND, AND, AND, AND CITIZEN APPRECIATE THAT ANY DAY, SO YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THEIR PROBLEM OR IT COULD BE THEIR PROBLEM.
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SAYING IS THAT, THAT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED AS FAR AS THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE'S CONCERNED BEFORE WE GET SEVERAL OTHERS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION.IS THAT AN ISSUE? UH, IF THEY'RE OUT SOMEWHERE OUT TOWARDS FRIENDSWOOD? UH, IS THIS, IS THE REQUIREMENT THE SAME? I I DON'T OUR, THE REQUIREMENT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OUR DISCUSSIONS IS LIMITED TO THE CITY IS LIMITED TO LEAGUE CITY.
THE REQUEST THAT WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY WENT UNDER THE, THE RECOMMENDATIONS STAFF RECOMMENDS THIS, UH, RECOMMENDED OF THE PREVIOUS ONE.
CITY COUNCIL AGREED CODIFIED THAT AND ADOPTED THAT WITH THE PREVIOUS, SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS UP TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IF YOU SO CHOOSE OR NOT TO CON ADD THAT WITH YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING STAFF HAS CERTAINLY WHOLEHEARTEDLY THINKS THAT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD IDEA, ESPECIALLY AFTER AN EXTREME EVENT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL CONTINUING KIND OF THAT EVOLUTION OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO TRY AND CAPTURE THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, SOMEBODY WILLING, THIS IS SOMETHING WILLING, THIS IS SOMETHING, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DICTATE.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING AS PART OF THE SUP REQUEST.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO, WE'RE WE'RE JUST SAYING WE RECOMMEND THIS BE AS PART OF THE APPROVAL.
OH, SO THIS DOES NOT SAY THAT THEY HAVE TO PUT IT IN.
IT IS PART OF THE RE OUR PART OF RECOMMENDATION IS, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT, IS THAT THEY PROVIDE A GENERATOR AS WELL AS SUBSEQUENT REQUESTS THAT MAY COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
BUT AGAIN, AT KIND OF, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO, TO INCLUDE THIS WITH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT AS WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY.
WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S, UH, KIND OF A REACH TO, TO DO THAT WITHOUT AN ORDINANCE OR SOME PROPER GUIDELINE AS TO THE REQUIREMENTS AND, AND THOSE TYPE THINGS.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY FEELS GOOD ABOUT IT.
WELL, AND, AND JUST TO ADD A LITTLE BIT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE SUP IS TO BE ABLE TO KIND OF THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX WHERE THE ORDINANCES DO NOT ADDRESS THE SUVS.
BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT AN SUP, WE LOOK LOCALIZED AT THE AREA AND WHAT IS BEING REQUESTED.
AND SO WE LOOK AT HOW TO MITIGATE ANY ISSUES AS WELL AS MITIGATE OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES THAT THE ORDINANCES DO NOT AND SOMETIMES CANNOT ADDRESS THAT WE CAN THROUGH THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT THROUGH MAKING THOSE RE RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY FEELINGS ALONG THOSE LINES? I, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, UH, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, IF, IF THEY DECIDE THEY WANT, THEY DON'T WANNA OPEN UP, I'M NOT SURE UNDER THE PRESENT, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE A, A WHOLE LOT OF LOT THAT WE CAN SAY ABOUT IT.
BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE OPTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE, THE, UM, REQUEST AND THEN SAY FROM THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY DON'T HAVE TO, UH, ADHERE TO NUMBER SEVEN OR WHATEVER IT IS.
NO, IF YOU CAN COME SPEAK AT AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, HAVING A POWER ISN'T REALLY GONNA HELP US.
UM, IT, IT'S THE 8,000 GALLONS NOT GONNA LAST LONG, UH, DURING A BARREL, YOU KNOW, THE 8,000 GALLON WE LOST MAYBE FOUR HOURS.
ONCE WE RUN OUTTA FUEL, WE'RE OUT OF FUEL AND THERE'S NOT MUCH WE COULD DO.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIME YOU WON'T GET AN NEXT LOAD FOR TWO MORE DAYS.
SO IT COULD HELP, UH, MAYBE FOR A FEW HOURS.
IT MAY NOT BE, UH, HELPFUL AT ALL WITH IT BEING AN AUTOMATIC GENERATOR.
IN THEORY, YOU GUYS WOULDN'T NEED, NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THERE TO STAFF IT.
IF THE GENERATOR KICKS ON, THE PUMPS HAVE POWER, THE MODEMS AND EVERYTHING INSIDE THE PUMPS WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO WORK.
YOU COULD STILL BUY FUEL EVEN IF NOBODY WAS PHYSICALLY PRESENT, RIGHT? UH, YES.
YEAH, THE GENERATOR'S GONNA KICK IN IT WITHIN 30 SECONDS.
BUT IF SOMEBODY HAS TO DO ALL THE OTHER CHORES, YEAH.
WELL, TECHNICALLY ALSO, IT WILL SAVE YOUR INVENTORY.
IF YOU HAVE A GENERATOR THAT WILL KICK IN AND SAVE EVERYTHING THAT'S REFRIGERATED OR FROZEN, THAT IS A GOOD, UH, IDEA.
IT WILL SAVE A MEAT, UH, OR ANY FROZEN ITEMS. YES.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THE ONLY THING I WAS GONNA ASK IS WHAT I SAW ON THE ELEVATION.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A SECOND.
UM, WHERE IT SAYS SIGNAGE, UM, I GUESS THAT'S GOING TO BE A SEPARATE BUSINESS OR IS THAT ALL? IT IS A LEASE SPACED.
UH, I THINK DRIVE, UH, DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANT.
BUT IT, IT COULD BE A FRANCHISE TYPE FOOD TYPE THING? YES, YES.
WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON THESE DAYS.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND HERE AGAIN, I I WAS NOT BEING NEGATIVE ON THE PROJECT.
I JUST, UH, I JUST THINK THAT THE, UH, THE IDEA OF THE, UH, OF THE GENERATOR MAY BE A GOOD ONE, BUT I THINK THERE'S JUST A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WE, WE HAVE NOT ANSWERED.
AND, AND, UH, WE NEED TO, GOING FORWARD, WE NEED TO, UH, HAVE, WE NEED TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO ANYWAY, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
HAVE WE CLOSED THE YEAH, WE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, DIDN'T WE? WE DID THAT AT THE SAME TIME WE OPENED IT.
ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
APPROVE IT WITH THE CONDITIONS NOTED.
SECOND, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? AND WE HAVE A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WASN'T THAT BAD WAS IT? THAT'S WHY WE STILL KEEP WORKING IN LAKE CITY
BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE A BACKUP SYSTEM IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTRY BECAUSE I THINK WE GO THROUGH SO MUCH, UH, AND BEFORE I THINK WE START BUILDING ANYTHING, IF, IF THERE'S A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, THE PLANNING, YOU KNOW, I THINK AT LEAST SOMEBODY WILL LOOK INTO THAT BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER YOU'RE DONE BUILDING IT? UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT GETS SO TOUGH RIGHT NOW, AS WE ARE SAYING FOR TWO HOTELS, WE ARE FIGHTING IT SO HARD, BUT IT JUST COST IS SO HIGH TO REDO THE WHOLE ELECTRICAL BACKGROUND.
SO IT'S, I I THINK THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE ALWAYS APPRECIATED THAT THEY ARE ASKING AT LEAST TO TRY AND GET IT DONE.
LIKE, UH, MAGNOLIA LEAVING, WE ARE BUILDING ON 45 OR HOBBS ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ALSO TRYING TO PUT, UH, THE BACKUP SYSTEM.
SO AT LEAST, UH, THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN RUN WHEN THERE IS NO POWER OUT THERE.
AND SAME THING WITH THE, THE MEDICAL OFFICE SPACE.
WE ARE ALSO PUTTING A BACKUP SYSTEM THERE, SO IF THERE'S ANY MEDICAL SYSTEM RENTING THE SPACE, THEY HAVE A BACKUP POWER.
SO IT'S AN ADDED COST, BUT I THINK IT HELPS THE COMMUNITY FOR SURE.
[5. Staff Comments]
ANYTHING YOU HAVE, ANYTHING ELSE, UH, MARK THAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT? JUST STAFF COMMENTS.UM, THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE DECEMBER 16TH.
I DO NOT HAVE ANY UPDATES FROM CITY COUNCIL BECAUSE THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS NOT UNTIL DECEMBER 17TH, WHICH WE WILL HAVE A LAUNDRY LIST OF ITEMS, UH, ON THAT NIGHT.
SO WE, WE WILL HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT, PROBABLY UPDATES IN THE COMING JANUARY, FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY, UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT DECEMBER MEETING.
AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BEFORE THE MEETING, IT, YOU GUYS MAY WANT TO TAKE A, A HEAD COUNT AS TO WHO'S GONNA BE AVAILABLE ON THE 16TH ALREADY.
IT APPEARS WE'LL SEND OUT A FORM.
WE ALREADY, IT APPEARS WE'LL SEND OUT A TYPICAL EMAIL FOR THE QUORUM ISSUE THERE.
SO, UM, SO THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO DO THAT MAY BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING IF YOU DON'T HAVE A MEETING, YOU KNOW, SO YES SIR.
SINCE IT GETS WITHIN THAT QUITE CLOSE TO THE HOLIDAYS, WE, WE START PAYING PARTICULAR RIGHT.
ADDITIONAL, A LITTLE BIT AND MORE ADDITIONAL ATTENTION TO MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE EVERYONE.
ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, THAT, UH, THAT BEING SAID, AND THAT BEING DONE, AND AT 6 23 WE WILL STAND ADJOURNED.