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[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
SIX O'CLOCK.I THINK WE HAVE A, UH, QUORUM.
GOING TO, UM, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 6:00 PM ON AUGUST THE 15TH.
AND BEGIN WITH THE ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS.
[2. Approval of July 18, 2024, minutes]
OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE JULY 18TH MINUTES.HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES? ANY, UM, CHANGES OR DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES? NO.
CAN I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? I MOVE.
HAVING A, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE AS WRITTEN.
ALL, UH, SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
SO THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED AS WRITTEN UNANIMOUSLY.
AND MOVING ON TO THE, UH, THIRD, UH, AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS, UH, CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.
IS THERE ANYBODY HERE THAT WANTS TO TALK TO THE, UH, COMMISSION OTHER THAN FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING? SEEING NONE.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THAT ITEM AND MOVE TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER
[4.A. Hold a public hearing and take action on a Certificate of Appropriateness, HC-24-0015, a request to replace windows, add two windows, replace the front door, and construct a fence at an existing commercial building, generally located on the northeast corner of Park Avenue and 2nd Street with an address of 202 North Park Avenue.]
FOUR, WHICH IS HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND TAKE ACTION ON A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, HC 24 DASH 0 0 15 A REQUEST TO REPLACE WINDOWS ADD TO WINDOWS.REPLACE THE FRONT DOOR AND CONSTRUCT A FENCE AT AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF PARK AVENUE AND SECOND STREET WITH AN ADDRESS OF 2 0 2 NORTH PARK AVENUE.
UM, MY NAME FOR THE RECORD IS ANN WILLIAMS WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UM, THIS REQUEST IS TO REPLACE WINDOWS, ADD TO WINDOWS, REPLACE THE FRONT DOOR, AND CONSTRUCT A FENCE AT AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING LOCATED IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UM, THE FIRST PICTURE YOU SEE UP THERE IS THE VIEW OF THE BUILDING FROM PARK AVENUE.
THIS IS LOCATED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM LEAGUE PARK.
UM, THE SECOND VIEW IS FROM THE SIDE ON SECOND STREET.
THE FIRST PICTURE THERE IS ONE SET UP THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING THAT WERE REPLACED.
UM, THERE'S ANOTHER SET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FRONT DOOR.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT YOU CAN ONLY TWO SETS OF WINDOWS THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WERE REPLACED.
THE SECOND WINDOW ARE THE TWO WINDOWS THAT WERE ADDED.
THAT'S THE ELEVATION THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM SECOND STREET.
THIS FIRST PICTURE IS THE NEW FRONT DOOR.
IT IS MORE OF A COMMERCIAL STOREFRONT TYPE DOOR.
AND THE SECOND PICTURE IS THE OLD FRONT DOOR, WHICH IS MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL DOOR.
THE FIRST PICTURE IS A SITE PLAN.
THE RED LINE IS WHERE THE FENCE WILL BE PLACED OR IS PLACED.
AND THERE IS A, WHAT THE FENCE LOOKS LIKE, IT'S A WOOD PICKET FENCE, SIX AND A HALF FEET TALL.
EVERYTHING COMPLIES WITH THE HIS HISTORIC DI DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT ISN'T QUITE, UM, IN COMPLIANCE IS THE WINDOWS THAT WERE ADDED ON THE SIDE ARE A LITTLE BIT PROTRUDING.
THE OTHER WINDOWS THAT WERE REPLACED ARE FLUSH AND UM, WHEN THEY WERE INSTALLED AND THE ORIGINAL WINDOWS ARE FLUSH.
SO STAFF FINDINGS, THE MATERIALS AND STYLE OF THE WINDOW REPLACEMENTS IN THE ADDITION OF THE WINDOWS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
UM, THE MATERIAL AND STYLE OF THE FRONT DOOR ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE DIS THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AND THE MATERIAL OF DEFENSE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
UM, AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO, SO ANN, THE ONLY OTHER WINDOWS ADDED WERE THE TWO ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION.
THERE WERE NO WINDOWS ADDED ON THE, UM,
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ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, UH, BUILDING, UM, I ONLY EVALUATED THE ONES THAT WERE ADDED ON THE SIDE BECAUSE OF THE ONLY ONES THAT I CAN SEE FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY.UM, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PICTURE OF THE PROTRUDING WINDOWS? THAT'S CONFUSING TO ME IS THEY'RE BARELY PROTRUDING.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SHADOW.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE SHADOWS, BUT IT SURPRISED ME WHEN I LOOK AT THE SHADOW, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THE SIDING GOES BEHIND THE, UH, IT, IT DOES.
AND I, I, I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION.
IT WAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S REALLY RELEVANT FOR THE SIGNIFICANT OR APPROPRIATE, UH, APPROPRIATENESS, BUT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT MAYBE WATER INFILTRATION.
UM, JUST LOOKING AT THAT, UM, IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S INSTALLED MAYBE A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECTLY.
BUT, UM, IT'S HARD TO TELL JUST FROM A PHOTO.
BUT THAT WAS THE ONE THING THAT WAS THE ONE CONCERN I HAD WAS, IT'S NOT REALLY A CERTIFICATE OR APPROPRIATE IN THIS THING.
UM, I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE DURABILITY OF THE, OF THE INSTALL.
CAULKING DOESN'T EVEN LOOK RIGHT.
YEAH, THAT LOOKS LIKE A PROBLEM WAITING TO HAPPEN.
AND UM, SO AGAIN, GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THE PACKAGE THAT CAME, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKED LIKE THIS WORK STARTED WITHOUT A BILL BILLING PERMIT.
UM, SO THEN IF IT YOU DON'T HAVE A BILLING PERMIT, THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF, UH, OF APPROPRIATENESS.
UM, BUT, WHICH KIND OF CONCERNS ME A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC, THIS ISN'T SOMEBODY WORKING ON THEIR HOUSE AND DIDN'T DO IT.
THIS IS A PUBLIC BUILDING THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE IN AND UM, YOU KNOW, SO HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEN? THAT A BUSINESS WILL MODIFY A HOUSE OR A BUILDING AND UM, NOT GET A BUILDING PERMIT? YEAH.
HOW DID THAT HAPPEN? I BELIEVE THEY STARTED THE WORK AND IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
AND THEY ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF THEIR BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY'VE BEEN GIVEN A TEMPORARY COS IT IS A SCHOOL.
AND SO AFTER THIS PROCESS, THEY WILL FINISH UP THE PROCESS OF THE BUILDING PERMIT.
THEY'LL HAVE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT WILL GET FINALIZED AND THEN THEY'LL GET THEIR, ONCE THEY'VE COMPLIED WITH EVERYTHING, THEN THEY'LL GET THEIR CERTIFICATE OF APPRO, OF A OF OCCUPANCY.
SO IT'S KIND OF A MORE OF A LONGER PROCESS FOR THEM AT THIS POINT.
THIS IS JUST ONE STEP IN THE PROCESS.
'CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THE INSIDE AND IT'S OUTSIDE OUR PURVIEW ANYWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, IF I'M JUST PICTURING WHERE THERE'S OUTLETS AND STUFF.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS INVOLVED.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING HASN'T BEEN COMPLETED, THERE IS A CHANCE JUST BASED ON SOME OF OUR EXPERIENCED FOLKS HERE, THAT THIS WINDOW STRUCTURE MAY NEED TO CHANGE OR MAY NOT BE QUITE QUITE UP TO SNUFF.
YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THESE ARE ALREADY INSTALLED.
DO WE NEED TO THEN CONSIDER IF THEY'RE CHANGING IT, DO WE NEED TO CHANGE IT TO BE MORE HISTORICALLY APPROPRIATE? JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
I THINK THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION IS SHOULD THOSE WINDOWS BE MODIFIED SO THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FLUSH AND, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEAL 'EM AND YOU WOULDN'T GET, GET WATER IN AND, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE MORE TYPICAL OF AN INSTALLATION.
IT'S, IT'S A NON-COMPLIANT BUILDING.
UM, SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY THERE, BUT, UM, STILL IT LOOKS ODD.
IS THERE A REASON IT'S NOT FLUSH? YEAH.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S JUST A, HELLO, MY NAME IS CURRY FAIG.
UH, MY CURRENT ADDRESS IS 900 HENDERSON AVENUE, APARTMENT 24 12.
UM, THE FRAME YOU SEE AROUND THE WINDOW IS JUST A FRAME.
THE REASON IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IS BECAUSE THE VINYL IS NOT, THE VINYL'S NOT STRAIGHT.
SO WHEN THEY PUT THE FRAME UP AROUND THE WINDOW, THAT'S WHY IT LOOKS LIKE THAT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE WINDOWS ON THE FRONT, THE ONLY REASON YOU CAN'T SEE, IT'S 'CAUSE THEY HAVE SHUTTERS OVER IT.
IT WOULD LOOK THE EXACT SAME IF YOU TOOK THOSE SHUTTERS OFF.
SO THE WINDOWS ARE FLUSH AND IT, EVERYTHING IS SEALED AND IT'S, I CAN ASSURE YOU, YOU CAN, IT SURVIVED A HURRICANE AND THERE WAS NO WATER INSIDE.
SO, UM,
WHY DID YOU NOT DO THE SECOND SET OF WINDOWS TO KIND OF MATCH THE FRONT WINDOWS?
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THE FRONT WINDOWS FEEL MORE HISTORIC DISTRICT THAN THOSE.SO WHERE THE WINDOWS CURRENTLY SIT ON THE SIDE, THERE WAS ACTUALLY CUTOUTS FOR WINDOWS THERE PREVIOUSLY.
THEY WEREN'T THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONES ON THE FRONT, SO WE TRIED TO MATCH IT, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF WINDOW IN THAT SIZE THAT YOU SEE ON THE SIDE.
AND SO WE HAD TO TAKE WHAT WAS AVAILABLE, BUT THERE WERE WINDOWS THERE PREVIOUSLY, THEY WERE JUST BOARDED UP.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO PUT WINDOWS BACK IN.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE WINDOWS ON THE LEFT ARE NOT TRULY FLUSHED, BUT THE SHUTTERS GIVE THEM THE APPEARANCE OF BEING FLUSHED.
IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING? YEAH.
IF YOU TOOK THE SHUTTERS OFF, IT WOULD LOOK THE EXACT SAME.
SO IF YOU PUT SHUTTERS ON THE OTHER WINDOWS, IT WOULD LOOK THE SAME AS THE ONES ON THE LEFT.
I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND ENOUGH ABOUT INSTALLING WINDOWS.
WHY DID YOU NOT CUT THE VINYL SIDING OR WHATEVER THAT SIDING IS SO THAT THE FRAME WOULD BE BACK UP AGAINST THE HOUSE? IT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE IT'S ON TOP OF THE SIDING.
SO THE FRAME IS ON TOP OF THE SIDING, BUT YOU CAN'T, THE SIDE, THE SIDING RUNS AT ANGLES LIKE THIS OVERLAPPING EACH OTHER.
SO YOU CAN'T REALLY MAKE ANYTHING FLUSH WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT FLAT.
SO BASED MORE INSIDE THE HOLE.
TYPICALLY IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, YOU MIGHT SEE TRIM TO COVER IT UP, IT WOULD BE YOU'D CUT BACK THE SIDING AND PUT SOME TRIM IN THERE.
YOU'D LAY TRIM ON, ON TOP OF THE SIDING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
WINDOW WOULD BE FLUSHED WITH THAT.
SO, BECAUSE THAT REALLY DOESN'T LOOK GOOD, IT WOULD LOOK BETTER THAN THAT.
WHAT'S THAT? IF THEY PUT TRIM ON IT.
'CAUSE WHAT'S THERE NOW DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
AND WOULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT WHAT YOU SAID THAT WE COULD OR OPTIONS WERE ON THAT, THAT WE COULD, YOU COULD, UM, ADD A CONDITION.
YOU COULD ADD A CONDITION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE HIM TO PUT TRIM AROUND IT.
YOU CAN ADD A CONDITION TO HAVE IT INSTALLED.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, IT'S HARD TO SEE IT, BUT THIS PICTURE FROM THE SURVEY IS FROM CIRCA 2017 AND THERE'S TRIM MM-HMM.
NOW THOSE SHUTTERS, HE DID NOT INSTALL THOSE SHUTTERS.
THOSE ARE PROBABLY, THEY WERE ON THE GOOGLE EARTH PICTURE 2020 ISH.
UM, I'M GUESSING THAT TRIM IS HISTORICALLY WHAT'S ALWAYS BEEN ON THAT HOUSE APPEARS IT'S BEEN PAINTED IN THE MORE RECENT PICTURE.
AND THEN THE, THE SHUTTER IS APPLIED TO EITHER SIDE.
YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SAME TRIM AS WHAT'S ON THE DOOR NOW.
THAT'S, THAT SEEMS LIKE THE MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD, STRAIGHTFORWARD APPROACH TO DO WHAT IS, WELL, ONE OF TWO THINGS IS, UM, WELL NO, I GUESS IT IS, IT'S JUST ADD ADD TRIM AROUND THE WINDOW SO IT, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S STICKING OUT OF THE BUILDING.
THEY DON'T COMPLY IN THE SENSE THAT THE, BECAUSE THEY ARE PROTRUDING AND THE OTHER ONES DON'T LOOK LIKE THEY'RE PROTRUDING.
SO THEY WEREN'T EXACTLY LIKE FOR LIKE, IS WHICH WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS THE LIKE FOR LIKE MM-HMM.
BECAUSE WE WANNA EVALUATE IT THAT WAY.
SO THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR ONGOING CONVERSATION YES.
ABOUT THE FACT THAT, UH, INSTALLING WINDOWS MATTER, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY'RE INSTALLED MATTERS IN HOW, HOW A HOUSE LOOKS.
AND YOU CAN TAKE A HOUSE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S ANOTHER MATTER WITH VINYL WINDOW WINDOWS PER SE,
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BUT IF YOU DON'T INSTALL 'EM CORRECTLY, THEN THEY AFFECT THE, UH, THE LOOK OF A HISTORIC HOME.THIS IS A NONCOMPLIANT HOME, BUT IT IS KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAST, UH, THREE OR FOUR, UH, WEEKS.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IN FOLLOWING IN OUR CONVERSATION, I, I THINK WE OUGHT TO, IT OUGHT TO MATCH THE FORM OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE FORM.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT HISTORIC, IT, IT'S WHAT'S THERE, IT WAS WHAT'S THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, PROBABLY LONG ENOUGH TO BE CONSIDERED, UH, A HISTORIC FEATURE.
UM, SO I, I THINK THAT THE, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE REST OF THE, UH, COMMISSION FEELS THAT THE, UM, WINDOWS ON THE, UH, SOUTH EXPOSURE SHOULD BE MODIFIED TO MATCH THE FORM OF THE FRONT.
BECAUSE THEY ARE FACING SECOND STREET.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN THE BACKYARD, PER SE.
WELL, WHAT ABOUT ADDING SHUT THE SHUTTERS TO THOSE? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY OR A POSSIBLE OR, WELL, SHUTTERS AREN'T ACTUALLY IN OUR GUIDELINES.
I MEAN, THEY, THE SHUTTER IS IF THEY ACTUALLY WORK IT COVERED THE WINDOWS.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THEM TAKE THOSE DOWN BECAUSE THEY WERE ADDED SOME POINT IN HISTORY.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT ON THE 2017 SURVEY, SO, BUT THE, THE TRIM IS AND THERE'S TRIM AROUND THE DOOR.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, I MEAN THESE, YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATE OF, UH, UH, APPROPRIATENESS IS SORT OF UP TO YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT WOULD PRECLUDE SOMETHING FROM BEING APPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, UH, ADDING SHUTTERS THAT DON'T WORK YEAH.
SO JUST RECOMMEND THAT HE PUT SHUTTERS.
NO, I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO SEE A MOTION SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINES TO, UH, APPROVE THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WITH THE, UH, PROVISION THAT THE SOUTH FACING WINDOWS, UM, ARE MODIFIED TO MATCH THE FORM, THE FORM OF THE, UH, THE FRONT WINDOWS.
JUST TO BE, JUST TO BE CONSISTENT.
MM-HMM,
WHEN YOU SAY MATCH THE FORM THOUGH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE STRICTLY REFERENCING THE TRIM, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT SUGGESTING A, A REPLACEMENT OF THE WINDOW FOR NO, NO.
I'M, I THINK THAT, I'M REALLY NOT SAYING HOW TO DO IT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PRO, THE PROTRUDING, THE FACT THE WINDOW IS NOT THE SAME FORM AS IN THE FRONT.
SO WHETHER THAT'S JUST ADDING A PIECE OF TRIM, I'M, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT'S FINE.
MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO DO IT.
I JUST, YEAH, I DIDN'T, I, IF IT WAS BROAD ENOUGH, IT COULD BE SEEN TO BE SAYING TO REPLACE THE WINDOWS.
UH, I I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT WHERE I WAS GOING.
I MEAN, NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
I MEAN, THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, UM, UH, FAKE, UH, PAIN BLOOD DRIVES AND THAT STUFF, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S FAKE ANYWAY.
IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT MATCHED MATCH PERFECTLY.
SO DO I HEAR A MOTION? YOU NEED HELP WITH THE PHRASING? WILL YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU'RE MO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING FOR YOUR MOTION? YEAH.
I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE MOTION BE MR. CHAIRMAN.
IF WE MAY, WE STILL NEED TO HAVE A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GETTING, I'M GETTING WAY AHEAD OF MYSELF.
UM, YEAH, I WAS JUST STARTING OFF WITH SOME QUESTIONS AND SKIP THAT PART.
UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT, UH, SIX 19.
WOULD ANYBODY, LIKE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ANY MORE? UM, I'LL, YEAH, I'LL MAKE ONE JUST THINKING ABOUT IT.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO VISION TRIM ON THE WINDOWS, AND I'D IMAGINE IF YOU THROW TRIM ON THOSE WINDOWS, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK THE EXACT SAME AS THEY DO NOW.
'CAUSE YOU THEY'RE STILL GONNA LOOK PROTRUDING.
I THINK IF YOU, IF YOU APPLY TRIM, THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU COULD DO IT.
YOU COULD, YOU COULD CUT BACK THE SIDING AND PLACE THE TRIM UHHUH
YOU COULD LAY IT OVER THE TOP, I THINK, EITHER WAY, BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A WIDTH TO THAT TRIM, AND THEN THAT WINDOW IS GONNA SORT OF SET AGAINST THAT TRIM.
YOUR, THE LOOK IS GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THE FRONT.
ALSO, THE TRIM COULD THEN BE PAINTED
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TO BE A SIMILAR COLOR AS THE FRONT.THAT'S GIVING YOU MORE OF A CONSISTENT LOOK AROUND THE BUILDING.
I THINK THAT HONESTLY WITH THE, WITH THE VINYL SIDING, IT'S PROBABLY BETTER TO CUT IT BACK.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO YOUR BUILDER, WHOEVER IS GONNA DO IT.
AND, AND IF I MAY REAL QUICK, JUST TO GET A CLARIFYING POINT, JUST WHAT MR. HENDERSHOT JUST MENTIONED IS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO STAFF, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ANNE, THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO BE A CONSISTENT FACADE ACROSS BOTH ELEVATIONS SO THAT THERE IS SOME, LIKE MR. HENDERSHOT SAID, SOME CONSISTENCY.
IS THAT, WOULD WE BE ASSUMING THAT CORRECTLY? YES.
WHAT WE HOPE THE, UH, MOTION, UH, PORTRAYS OR REQUIRES OR WHATEVER.
SO YOU WANT A MOTION TO APPROVE.
SO JUST TO CLOSE, UM, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, ALL RIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT 6 21 AND NOW WE, NOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH THE MOTION
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION THAT SOMETHING BE DONE TO THE SIDE WINDOWS SUCH THAT THEY APPEAR MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE FRONT WINDOW.
AND, AND, UM, TO BE LIKE IF YOU, IN THE PACKAGE THEY MENTIONED THE, UH, FORM OF THE WINDOWS.
THIS IS, THIS IS THAT CONCEPT OF WHERE IT SETS MM-HMM.
UM, SO THE MOTION WOULD BE SOMEHOW WORDED SUCH THAT THE FORM OF THE WINDOW MATCHES THE FORM OF THE, UM, FRONT, FRONT WINDOWS.
DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YOU THINK THE FORM OF THE WINDOW IS THE WORD.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.
MARK, YOU, YOU OKAY? YOU CAN DO IT, I BELIEVE WITH WHAT? WITH WHAT? ANNA AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
THE FORM AND IT AGAIN, THE GENERAL OVERALL IDEA IS THE FORM IS THE CONSISTENCY OF THE ELEVATION.
DO WE NEED TO, DO WE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT COLORS OR, I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT THIS BEAUTIFUL DARK BLUE TRIM.
DOES THAT NEED TO COME THROUGH OR DO WE DON'T NEED TO BE SPECIFIC ON THAT? I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYTHING IN ABOUT COLORS, BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.
I MEAN, IT JUST TO THINK ABOUT
SO I MOVE THAT THIS, UH, CERTIFICATE OF, UH, APPROPRIATENESS BE GRANTED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THE FORM OF THE ADDED WINDOWS FACING SECOND STREET BE ADJUSTED.
WHAT'S THE WORD I WANT? ADJUSTED WHATEVER SUCH THAT THEY MORE CLOSELY, UH, RESEMBLE THE REPLACED FRONT WINDOWS.
DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND? OKAY.
SO HAVING A, UH, MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND IT'S SECOND.
THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE CERTIFICATE IS APPROVED WITH THE CONDITION.
THE, UH, NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS.
I HAVE NONE AND NOR DO, NOR DO I.
ARE THERE ANY STAFF COMMENTS? I HAVE NO COMMENTS TONIGHT.
SO WITH THAT, WE CAN MOVE TO ADJOURN AT 6 24.