[1. Call to order and roll call of members]
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ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE.I HOPE SHE'S ON HER WAY AND KNOW SUE'S NOT COMING.
WE HAVE AMY, CARL, MYSELF, CAPTAIN,
[2. Approval of minutes for May 8, 2024, committee meeting]
AND THEN WE DO APPROVAL OF MINUTES ITEM NUMBER TWO.DO I HAVE THEM OR DO YOU HAVE THEM? OH, THEY'RE IN FRONT.
THEY'RE ON YOUR SCREEN AS WELL,
THEY'RE EMAILED, BUT I JUST, I'M, UH, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT IT? I LOOKED AT 'EM BEFORE.
UM, COULD YOU, SIR, COULD YOU PLEASE SCROLL DOWN ON THE MINUTES A LITTLE? THAT, THAT'S THE COMPLETE MINUTES.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT THEY'VE BEEN, THEY APPROVED SECOND.
AND BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I WANNA WELCOME OUR NEW SHELTER MANAGER.
WE HAVE CAKE SAYS, WELCOME AMELIA.
THERE'S A DOG AND A CAT ON IT,
AND, AND, AND SO I WANT EVERYONE TO PLEASE JUST COME UP AND CUT IT LIKE YOU'RE AT HOME.
THERE'S PAPER PLATES, THERE'S A THING THERE.
THERE'S PAPER TOWELS IF YOU WANT.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA JUST GET TWO PANTS, BUT GO GET YOUR OWN CAKE.
THE DOGS AND CATS AND THANK YOU.
AND THEN LIKE, YOU CAN TAKE THIS BACK TO THE SHELTER FOR TOMORROW OR WHATEVER HOME, WHATEVER YOU WANT.
WELL, I'M JUST REALLY EXCITED.
AND, UM, SO PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL, TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF.
UM, AND FORGIVE, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO.
IS THIS OKAY? A LITTLE CLOSER, I THINK.
UM, IT'S KIND OF AN ODD STORY.
I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA LIVE IN THE ZOOS MY ENTIRE LIFE.
UM, AFTER MY MASTER'S DEGREE, I WENT TO THE ZOO.
I SPENT TIME THERE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
MY PASSION IS CAPTIVE ANIMAL WELFARE, AND HOW YOU ACHIEVE THAT IS THROUGH ENRICHMENT AND ANIMAL TRAINING.
FOUND OUT ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY TO A SHELTER.
I THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER WORK AT A SHELTER.
UM, BUT I VOLUNTEERED AND I QUICKLY REALIZED THAT THE SHELTER ANIMALS ALSO NEED A HIGHER QUALITY OF CARE PROVIDED.
SO I SPENT OVER 10 YEARS WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
UM, STARTED AS AN ANIMAL CARE TECHNICIAN, WENT TO SUPERVISOR, THEN MANAGER.
AND DURING THAT TIME, I ALSO CREATED A STAFF TRAINING PROGRAM THAT REALLY TAUGHT HUMANS HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH ANIMALS AND INCREASED SAFETY.
SO I WAS DOING THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
WE WERE RECOGNIZED AT MY PREVIOUS SHELTER FOR THAT PROGRAM.
BEST FRIENDS INCLUDED IT IN THEIR EDUCATIONAL WEBINARS AND HONORED TO SPEAK AT TWO NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS, BOTH BEST FRIENDS AND THE ASSOCIATION OF PET DOG TRAINERS.
THAT ONE ALWAYS GIVES ME A LITTLE TONGUE TIE.
AND MOST RECENTLY IN THE ANIMAL CARE EXPO, NOW I'M HERE AT LAKE CITY.
I HOPE TO BRING THE SAME PROGRAM, AND I REALLY HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BRING A LIGHT TO THE AWESOME WORK THEY'RE ALREADY DOING AND CONTINUE THAT.
UM, YOU READY FOR THE SHELTER UPDATE?
[3. General shelter update and May statistics from Lynette Bodmer]
YES, WE ARE READY FOR THE SHELTER UPDATE.WELL, YOU, YOU STOLE MY THUNDER WITH ONE OF OUR BIG ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, BUT THAT IS ONE OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
UM, BUT I'VE GOT OUR STATS THAT THERE, UM, WE'LL DIVE INTO THAT FIRST IF YOU GUYS WANT.
UM, OUR MAY STATISTICS WERE PRETTY ASTOUNDING.
UH, WE HAD 339 ANIMALS COME IN DURING THE MONTH OF MAY, WHICH WAS A 108% INCREASE FROM APRIL.
SO 176 MORE PETS CAME IN IN THE MONTH OF APRIL, OR FROM THE MONTH OF APRIL TO MAY.
UM, AND OUR, UH, OUTGOING NUMBERS DID INCREASE AS WELL.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOUGH, THEY WERE JUST NOT AS DRASTIC AS THOSE, UM, INCOMING NUMBERS, UH, WHICH DOES MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO KEEP UP.
UM, OUR ADOPTION FOSTER CARE, UH, RETURN TO HOME NUMBERS ALL INCREASED, UH, AS WELL AS OUR VOLUNTEER NUMBERS AND OUR CURRENT CAPACITY.
UH, WE ARE AT 42% OVER CAPACITY
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IN OUR CANINE KENNELS.UM, AS OF MONDAY NIGHT, UM, WITH 74 DOGS AND PUPPIES ON SITE, UH, CATS ARE NEARING, UM, FULL CAPACITY AT 89% WAS 66 ON SITE ON MONDAY NIGHT.
UM, AND JUST AN UPDATE ON THE LAST TWO MONTHS.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT OUR RESPIRATORY VIRUS OUTBREAK.
UM, IT IS COMPLETELY UNDER CONTROL NOW.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THREE DOGS ON SITE THAT ARE EXHIBITING SYMPTOMS THAT ARE NEW, UM, NEW SYMPTOMS. AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ONBOARD WITH WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT WHEN YOU ARE SEVERELY OVER CAPACITY.
UM, AND THAT'S LESS THAN 4% OF THE POPULATION DOWN FROM THE HEIGHT OF THAT OUTBREAK WHEN WE WERE AT OVER 35% OF THE POPULATION.
SO DEFINITELY UNDER CONTROL NOW.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, CAN THE DOG PLAY GROUPS START THEN? THE DOG PLAY GROUPS WERE PART ON HOLD FOR THAT, AND THEN ALSO FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OUTSIDE, BUT ON HOLD FOR THE WALL, UM, WHICH I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN AS I DROVE BY LEAVING, THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE CLOSING UP SHOP.
THEY WERE PACKING UP ALL THEIR STUFF.
WHAT? I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE THE END OF JUNE.
SO THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATED DATE WAS 18 DAYS.
UM, THE SEVERE WEATHER PUSHED THAT BACK QUITE A BIT.
UM, BUT YEAH, THEY WERE PACKING UP ALL THEIR, THEIR STUFF WHEN, UM, I PULLED OUTTA THE SHELTER.
SO, UM, OTHER THAN MAYBE FINISHING ANY PAINTING OR WALKTHROUGHS OR ANY FINAL, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND DO ANY LIKE, YOU KNOW, APPROVAL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AWESOME, UH, LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL IS FULLY INSIDE NOW, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN THOSE YARDS BACK UP.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEN ADDING IN WITH THE SPACE CONCERNS, UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN APPROVAL AS OF THIS MORNING TO, UM, WAIVE ADOPTION FEES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE MONTH TO HELP US MAKE SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALWAYS BIG, UM, BIG EVENTS TO HELP US WITH THOSE SPACE CONCERNS.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
WE'LL BE DOING THAT FOR THE REST OF JUNE.
UM, STAFFING UPDATES, UM, SINCE WE LAST SPOKE, ALL OF THE VACANT POSITIONS, UM, WERE FILLED AS OF OUR LAST SPEAKING, BUT THEY, THEY ARE NOW ALL ONBOARDED AND IN THEIR POSITIONS.
WE WERE FULLY STAFFED CURRENTLY.
UM, WE BROUGHT ON THAT NEW FULL-TIME, UM, ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICER, ANIMAL CARE, UH, TECHNICIAN.
AND OF COURSE, AMELIA, OUR NEW ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER WHO WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL STAFFING UPDATES FOR YOU GUYS.
WE ARE ALSO BEGINNING NEW WEEKLY SAFETY TRAINING MEETINGS FOR STAFF.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE ALSO GOING TO BE TAKING SOME NEW, UM, CERTIFICATION TRAININGS FOR STAFF FOR, UM, CPR FIRST AID, A ED, STOP LEAD KITS, THINGS LIKE THAT, TO IMPROVE OUR SAFETY ON SITE.
UH, LAST MONTH, I KNOW ONE OF THE TOPICS OF CONVERSATIONS DURING UPDATE WAS ABOUT OUR SURGERY BACKLOG.
UM, THE CURRENT PROVIDER WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WAS ABLE TO SCHEDULE THREE DATES THIS MONTH.
UM, WE DID OUR SECOND ONE OF THE MONTH TODAY.
AND I'M ALSO CURRENTLY WORKING WITHIN A NEW PROVIDER, UH, TO TRY TO GET NEW DATES SCHEDULED TENTATIVELY BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE ON CONTRACT OR GETTING WHATEVER THE OFFICIAL CITY BUSINESS IS? I'M WAITING ON THE OFFICIAL QUOTE TO BE SENT OVER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS GOOD.
SO I AM VERY GUARDEDLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THAT.
AND YOU THINK THAT'LL GIVE US LIKE THE CAPACITY YOU NEED, OR DO YOU THINK I THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
ARE YOU GONNA NEED TRANSPORT? WE MAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT THE, THE DETAILS, BUT YEAH.
FOR THE DOGS OR FOR THE CATS OR FOR BOTH.
WELL, 'CAUSE THE CITY DOES THE DOGS, BUT YOU NEED TO VOLUNTEER TO TRANSPORT THE CATS.
WHAT WE DID BEFORE AS WELL, WE MAY NEED, I ASKED.
WE MAY NEED BOTH, UM, IN ORDER TO GET FULLY CAUGHT UP, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WORK IT OUT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WHEN, HOW MANY SPOTS, HOW MANY DAYS? ALL THAT IS STILL HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
I'M GATHERING QUOTE, DON'T NEED TO
I, I SPOKE WITH HER, WHAT, 30 MINUTES AGO? SERIOUSLY? YEAH, SHE, UM, YEAH, LETTING ME KNOW.
SHE'S STILL WORKING ON GETTING ALL THE QUOTES OVER.
THEY HAD A BIG SURGERY DAY AND STILL WORKING.
AS I KNOW TOO, YOU CAN'T, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE MORE EXCITED THAN I AM.
AND THEN I'M JUST SOME VOLUNTEER UPDATES.
WE DO HAVE SOME NEW TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES COMING FOR OUR VOLUNTEERS.
IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
UM, WE ARE GONNA BE ADDING IN SOME DOG BASIC MANNERS CLASSES TO HELP IMPROVE THE, UH, ADAPTABILITY, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, OF OUR DOGS.
UM, AS WELL AS SOME ADVANCED DOG HANDLING CLASSES TO IMPROVE SAFETY ON SITE AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE, OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATORS ARE BOTH STILL WORKING ON INCREASING OUR COMMUNITY PRESENCE THROUGH ADDITIONAL OUTREACH OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE JUST THIS WEEK SECURED A SPOT AT THE SOLE FREAK MAKER'S MARKET FOR A MONTHLY SPOT AT THAT EVENT, WHICH IS A PRETTY ACTIVE EVENT RIGHT IN THE HEART OF TOWN.
SO WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
CAN YOU SAY WHO, WHO'S DOING THE, THE, UM, ADDITIONAL DOG TRAINING AND STUFF? IS THAT, ARE YOU BRINGING IN SOMEBODY FROM THE OUTSIDE OR IS THAT
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SOMEBODY HERE? THEY'LL BE INTERNAL.UM, AS A, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A FEW MONTHS AGO I WASN'T QUALIFIED TO DO THAT, BUT IF I'M QUALIFIED NOW, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GET INVOLVED.
UM, SO WHEN ARE WE GONNA BE HAVE, UM, IN-HOUSE EUTHANASIA RESTORED? UH, THE, WE HAVE UPCOMING TRAININGS FOR THAT TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER TO GET MORE STAFF TRAINED.
UM, AND WE ARE WORKING ON GETTING THE, UM, NEW SOLUTION, UM, IN STOCK.
SO IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A BIT OF A PROCESS TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WITH DEA.
UM, SO WE HAVE OUR ORDER FORMS IN HAND AND WE ARE JUST WAITING TO BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY ORDER IT.
SO ANY DAY NOW, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT IN.
UM, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TWO CERTIFIED STAFF AND WE ARE WORKING ON THAT TRAINING FOR ADDITIONAL STAFF TO SPREAD THE BURDEN.
SO THAT IF IT DOES NEED TO TAKE PLACE, IT'S NOT ONE OR TWO STAFF MEMBERS HAVING TO CARRY THAT BURDEN ALONE.
SO MAYBE YOU DON'T, WE DON'T KNOW.
AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT IN HAND, WE'LL STOP SENDING OFFSITE FOR EMERGENCIES.
BUT THE PROJECTED TRAINING DATE WILL BE SEPTEMBER 4TH.
ANY OTHER SPECIAL EVENTS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DOGS OR ANYTHING GUYS? NO, BECAUSE I KNOW THE CAT, THE CAT ROOM IS AS FULL AS IT'S EVER BEEN IN A LONG TIME.
LIKE LAST SUMMER WAS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THIS SUMMER.
AND IT'S JUST REALLY BEEN SURPRISING.
AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN A FEW SNIFFLES STARTING IN THE CAT ROOM, SO THAT'S YEAH.
IT'S, IT'S ROUGH
UH, I MEAN, THE MORE, UM, THE HIGHER WE ARE OVER CAPACITY, THE MORE THAT'S GONNA BE A CONCERN.
UM, BUT WE ARE AT OUR, OUR FULL CAPACITY AS FAR AS OUR STAFFING ALLOWS.
SO THOSE OPENINGS THAT WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH ARE NO LONGER.
SO HOW, HOW DO, HOW ARE THE TECHS SCHEDULED? YOU HAVE LIKE TWO OR THREE A DAY? IS THERE TWO AND A HALF? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT? THE ACTS? YES.
AND THEN ON OUR DEEP CLEAN DAYS, THERE ARE FOUR.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE.
AND WHEN DOES THE BUDGET GO TO THE BUDGET'S ALREADY BEEN SENT UP, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER NOW OF WHEN COUNCILS GO OVER IT.
SO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT IN THE ORDINANCES FOR THE BUDGET TO COME TO THIS.
Y'ALL FILED THE FLOOR REQUEST.
DID YOU GET WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR? NO.
BUT THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST ON MONEY SPENT LAST YEAR.
IT WASN'T THE BUDGET, LIKE THE BUDGET HAS A UPCOMING WELL, THE COMMITTEE IS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST A PRIVATE WAY, RIGHT? YES.
SO I THAT NONE OF THAT WAS SHARED.
IT JUST KEPT IT WITH THE COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT, WHEN IS THE PLAN NEXT MONTH TO BRING THE BUDGET? YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE CAN BRING THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
IT'S NOT FINALIZED YET, BUT WE CAN BRING THE ONE PROPOSED FINALIZED MEANS BEING APPROVED AND SIGNED OFF BY COUNCIL.
YEAH, WELL, COUNCIL IN THE, OR IN, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE WHATEVER BYLAWS, WHATEVER RESPONSIBILITY NEEDS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COUNCIL HERE IN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO SEND TO THEM.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS, SO LOOKING BACK, WE PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT ALREADY.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PLAY CATCH UP.
I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S OUR ONLY CHOICE.
SO WILL WE GET THAT IN ADVANCE OF THE, I WAS GONNA SAY, ARE WE GONNA GET THAT IN ADVANCE? I, I HOPE WE, YOU SAID IT'S ALREADY SUBMITTED.
IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE SUBMITTED TO COUNCIL.
IT'S SUBMITTED THROUGH THE LIKE BUDGET OFFICE AND CITY MANAGER FOR THEIR REVIEW.
THEY MAKE EDITS AND THEN AFTER THAT IT GOES TO COUNCIL.
SO IT'S STILL IN THE INTERNAL REVIEW.
SO ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BE BEFORE THE CITY OR AFTER THE CITY? SO WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN IT BEFORE IT WENT.
THAT'S WHAT I, IDEALLY I WOULD'VE GONE OVER THAT
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WITH YOU ALREADY.AND THEN THE WHATEVER CHANGES, BUT THEN WE WOULD TAKE AND HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU GUYS WILL GET IT BEFORE COUNCIL FOR SURE.
WELL, WE GOTTA HAVE IT ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE COUNCIL RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO LIKE TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT IT.
SO FOR SURE, THAT'LL BE AN AGENDA ITEM FOR JULY.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ON THAT, THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE SIGNED UP.
RHONDA, CAN YOU PLEASE CHECK? I'M HATE TO BUG YOU.
[5. Review Community Cat Policy with Amelia Nusbaum]
GET TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, REVIEW COMMUNITY CAP POLICY WITH AMELIA.WE HAVE THE, EVERYBODY'S GOT A COPY OF THE POLICY IN FRONT OF THEM AND I KNOW THAT I, I KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CERTAINLY TAKING EACH INDIVIDUAL CAT AND THEIR INDIVIDUAL WELFARE INTO CONCERN, UM, AND INTO CONSIDERATION WHILE WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
SO I SPENT A LOT OF TIME, UM, REVIEWING, THERE'S PROBABLY EIGHT NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT SPEAK, THAT ARE EXPERTS IN COMMUNITY CAP PROGRAMS. SO REVIEWED ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UM, AND PUT ALL THAT TOGETHER BALANCING, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS AS WELL AS THE BEST PRACTICES.
AND SO I PUT IT ALL TOGETHER HERE.
UM, I ALSO KIND OF WANNA GO THROUGH, I, IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO YOU GUYS IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH THE CONCERNS.
I KIND OF HAVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE MENTIONED, UM, PREVIOUSLY OUTLINED IN HOW WE ADDRESS THAT OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST TAKE TIME AND GO THROUGH THE POLICY? I THINK THIS WALKTHROUGH THE POLICY, YEAH.
AND, AND TO CLARIFY, THESE ARE YOUR EDITS OF THE POLICY.
THESE ARE MY EDITS TO THE POLICY.
SO THE PREVIOUS POLICY, WHAT I DID IS I REVIEWED THE PREVIOUS POLICY AS WELL, BUT I DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE, THE REDUCED IT.
SO A SHORTER POLICY IS GONNA BE EASIER TO FOLLOW, EASIER, IT'S GONNA BE MORE TRANSPARENT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THERE'S GONNA REDUCE ERRORS AS WELL.
UM, IF IT'S MUCH EASIER TO UNDERSTAND AND IT'S A LOT SIMPLER.
SO DO YOU WANT ME TO READ THROUGH THIS? MAYBE SUMMARIZE AT LEAST
SO WE'VE GOT OUR DEFINITIONS AT THE TOP.
YOU KNOW, WHAT A COMMUNITY CAT HAS CONSIDERED.
UM, AND WE ALSO DESCRIBED WHAT FAS STANDS FOR.
SO IT'S FEAR, ANXIETY, AND STRESS.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE MAJOR, UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE USING TO DETERMINE CATS, UM, WHEN IT SPECIFICALLY, WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE ADULTS OR KITTENS, HOW WELL ARE THEY DOING IN THE SHELTER AND HOW ARE THEY DOING AT THE TIME THAT THE FINDER FOUND THEM? UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE USING THAT TO DETERMINE MORE OR LESS THEIR PATHWAY BECAUSE IF THEY'RE HIGHLY STRESSED, UM, WHICH IS THE FAS AND WE'RE GONNA BE USING SEVERELY STRESSED ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO GREEN, WHICH IS RELAXED AND FRIENDLY, WE'RE GONNA BE USING THIS SCALE, WHICH IS A MUCH MORE SCIENTIFIC WAY OF UNDERSTANDING THE CAT'S BODY LANGUAGE TO DETERMINE, UM, ON THE CERTAIN AGES BASED ON THE FLOW CHARTS.
I GUESS IF WE WANNA GO TO THE KITTEN FLOW CHART, WE CAN START THERE.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE GET INTO THE FAS.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE, WE'LL START AT THE BEGINNING, ZERO TO FOUR WEEKS.
UM, YOU SEE THE PATHWAY THERE AND THEN FOUR TO SIX WEEKS.
SO IS IT SAFE? IS IT POSSIBLE TO KEEP WITH MOM OR WILL THE FINDER FOSTER? SO THIS IS A PATHWAY FOR THE STAFF TO USE.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOTIFY THE OUTREACH COORDINATOR AND THEN FOUR TO SIX WEEKS ADD TO THE FOSTER BOARD REQUEST BOARD, UM, FOSTER CARE RESCUE ONLY.
UM, THEN YOU HAVE THE VERY ACTIVE AND PLAYFUL, THE ABOUT ONE TO TWO POUNDS ADD TO FOSTER BOARD REQUEST, UM, ADD TO FOSTER REQUEST BOARD THEIR PATHWAY, FOSTER RESCUE ONLY.
THEN YOU GET INTO THE TWO TO THREE MONTHS OLD, UM, MOVE TO ADOPTIONS.
AT THE TIME OF ADOPTIONS, WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE THEIR STRESS LEVELS.
SO THE GREEN LOW FAS WILL REMAIN IN ADOPTIONS MODERATE TO HIGH.
UH, WE WILL CONS ADD TO THE FOSTER REQUEST BOARD.
THESE KITTENS MAY BE ABLE TO GO TO FOSTER CARE.
UM, 'CAUSE IDEALLY YOU WANT TO SPEND TIME SOCIALIZING THEM AS WELL.
AND THEN YOU GET TO THE FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS OLD, THEY LOW FAS REMAIN IN ADOPTIONS, MODERATE TO HIGH SEAL LEADERSHIP
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TEAM.THESE KITTENS MAY BE ABLE TO GO TO FOSTER, UH, RETURN TO HOME OR WORKING CAT PROGRAM DEPENDING ON THEIR STRESS LEVELS AT THAT TIME.
AND IDEALLY THEY GO TO FOSTER AND THERE'S SOME TIME TO ADJUST OR THEY ADJUST IN THE SHELTER.
BUT WE'RE GONNA KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO CONTINUE TO KEEP HATS IN THE SHELTER THAT ARE EXTREMELY STRESSED OUT.
UM, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE ALSO IN THE ADOPTION AREA, IT CAN BE A CONCERN FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY INTERACTING WITH THEM TOO.
UH, GOING BACK TO THE KITTEN PATHWAYS OR THE CAT PATHWAYS, WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY WALKED THROUGH THE KITTEN PATHWAY AND THEN IF WE JUMP TO THE NEXT PAGE FOR THE ADULT FLOW, IT'S ACTUALLY EASIER TO SEE ON THE SCREEN.
SO ADULT CATS COME IN, ADULT WILL BE SIX MONTHS.
SO IF THEY WERE FOUND OUTSIDE, DOES IT APPEAR THEY WERE THRIVING? AND I KNOW THAT WAS SOME CONCERN AS WELL.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN THE BACK WE HAVE GOT AN UPDATED PHYSICAL EXAM REVIEW.
UM, SO WE'VE UPDATED OUR PHYSICAL EXAM REVIEW AS WELL AND THEY'LL, THERE'S AN ATTACHMENT IN THE BACK THAT YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.
WE'RE ALSO STILL IN THE PROCESS OF CONTACTING AT LEAST THE MAJOR VET THAT WE WORK WITH.
AND IF WE WORK WITH ANOTHER VET, THE SECOND VET AS WELL, UM, WE'RE GONNA ASK THAT THE VETS ALSO DO ANOTHER EVALUATION ON THE CAT'S CONDITION AS WELL.
IT DOESN'T HURT TO HAVE AN EXPERT'S OPINION WHILE THEY'RE UNDER ANESTHESIA TO THOROUGHLY LOOK AT THEIR BODY CONDITION, UM, AND VERIFY THE CLAWS DECLAWED.
SO IF THE CAT WAS THRIVING, UM, LET'S SAY THE CAT WAS THRIVING, HE HAS NO CAT, APPEARS HEALTHY AND HAS NO MAJOR MEDICAL CONCERNS, UM, THEY WILL RETURN HOME AFTER A STRAY HOLD PERIOD OF THREE DAYS.
SO THAT WILL GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE TO LOOK FOR THEIR MISSING PET AND THEN THE CAT WILL BE RETURNED.
AND THAT ALSO HELPS ANOTHER SECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY FIND THEIR MISSING PET IF IT'S PUT BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT CAME FROM.
SO IF THE CAT WAS NOT THRIVING, CAT IS UNHEALTHY, OVERWEIGHT, EMACIATED, GERIATRIC OR DECLAWED, THEY'RE GONNA MOVE TO ADOPTIONS LOW FAS.
THEY REMAIN IN ADOPTIONS NON RESOLVING HIGH FAS.
THEY'RE GONNA GO INTO A WORKING CAT PROGRAM, UM, FOSTER RESCUE COORDINATOR WITH APPROVAL ONLY.
UM, WE'RE NOT REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT INDOOR CATS, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR PATHWAY AT THE BOTTOM TOO.
BUT THIS IS MAINLY TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE COMMUNITY CATS THAT'LL GO, UM, THE PATHWAYS FOR THEM.
SO THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ON THE POLICY RIGHT AFTER THE ADULT CAT FLOW CHART ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR THE COMMUNITY CATS MINIMUM OF THREE POUNDS, THREE MONTHS OF AGE BODY, CORE BODY CONDITION SCORE OF NO LESS THAN FOUR THROUGH NINE.
AND I KNOW THAT WAS A CONCERN AS WELL.
UM, BUT WE REACHED OUT TO TWO VETS THAT ARE SHELTER MEDICINE EXPERTS, UM, AND THEY WERE ALL COMFORTABLE WITH THE BODY SCORE OF FOUR THROUGH SIX.
SO WE'VE INCLUDED BOTH BODY SCORE CHARTS ON THE POLICY AS WELL FOR THE TEAM TO LOOK AT AND FOLLOW.
AND IT'S HELPFUL, IT WAS HELPFUL FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS BODY CONDITION SCORE CHART.
UM, BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT THE FOUR IS LEAN, UM, BUT NOT, NOT UNHEALTHY, NOT THE THIN EMACIATED BODY SCORE CONDITION.
AND AFTER THEY'RE NEUTERED, UM, THEY'LL GAIN WEIGHT.
SO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY HELP THEM BUILD UP THEIR BODY CONDITION.
UM, AFTER YOU NEUTER THEM AND PUT THEM BACK IN THE ENVIRONMENT WHERE THEY'RE STRESS FREE, THEY'RE LIKELY TO GAIN SOME WEIGHT.
UM, NO INJURY OR ILLNESS OTHER THAN MEDICAL CON, NO INJURY, ILLNESS OR OTHER MEDICAL CONCERNS.
PROHIBITING RELEASE UNLESS APPROVED BY MANAGEMENT, DEFINITELY NOT DECLAWED, UM, NOT MICROCHIPPED OR WEARING IDENTIFICATION.
IF NO OWNER REACHED AFTER RESEARCHING CHIP OR ID CAT MAY GO THROUGH THE CCP AT THE END OF THE STRAY TIME.
IF A MICROCHIP INDICATES PREVIOUS RELEASE, HEALTH WILL BE EVALUATED PRIOR TO RETURNING TO ITS HOME.
IF CONDITION HAS DECLINED, THE CAT WILL NOT BE RELEASED AGAIN.
SO IF THERE IS A CAT, JUST IF THERE IS A CAT THAT'S BEEN RELEASED BEFORE AND HE COMES BACK TO US, WE'RE GONNA DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT HE'S STILL THRIVING IN THAT COMMUNITY BEFORE HE GOES BACK OUT.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT IN CONSIDER INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
CAT WAS FOUND OUTDOORS AND HAS NO KNOWN HISTORY OF PRIMARILY LIVING INDOORS.
WE WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE PUTTING ANY CATS THAT HAVE A, PRIMARILY THEIR HISTORY OF LIVING INDOORS ARE GONNA BE OUTSIDE.
UM, SO IF THEY HAVE ANY HISTORY OF PRIMARILY LIVING INDOORS, THEY'RE GONNA BE REMAINING IN ADOPTIONS OR WORKING CAT PROGRAM.
CAT HAS KNOWN A SPECIFIC PHYSICAL ADDRESS, UH, OF ORIGIN FOR RETURN.
AND WE EMPHASIZE THIS IN THE IMPORTANCE OF GATHERING THAT INFORMATION DURING THE CONVERSATION WITH THE FINDER.
AND IT'S ALSO VERY, IT'S ALSO INCLUDED IN THE QUESTIONNAIRE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL, THAT WE DEVELOPED AND ADDED ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
KAT IS NOT FROM A SITUATION WHERE RETURN
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IS NOT FEASIBLE.RISKS SUCH AS DESTROYED BUILDING AT LOCATION OF ORIGIN OR OTHER EXAMPLES THAT MAKE RETURN UNACCEPTABLE.
AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO NAVIGATE THOSE AS THEY COME TO US.
UM, AND ALSO JUST PROBABLY RELY A LOT ON THE EXPERTS.
YOU KNOW, NONE OF THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE JUST FROM, UM, OUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
THIS IS ALL, WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE SCIENCE AND WE'RE GOING BACK TO THE EXPERTS TO LEAN ON A LOT OF THESE DECISIONS AND HOW THEY'RE MADE.
SO, PROXIMITY TO BUSY ROADS, I KNOW COULD BE CONCERNING, BUT WILL IT, THEY'RE NOT, UM, CONSIDERED RISKS AS RESEARCH, RESEARCH SHOWS CATS CAN THRIVE IN THESE CONDITIONS.
UM, CAT SHOWS NO EVIDENCE OF GENUINE ABANDONMENT.
THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONCERN OF OURS AS WELL.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, ENABLERS MOVED OUT AND CAT SUDDENLY SHOWED UP AND STARTED DESPERATELY TRYING TO GET INTO THE FINDER'S HOME.
THIS IS GOING TO ALSO BE, UM, PART OF THE QUESTION ON THE QUESTIONNAIRE OF THE FINDER TO REALLY GET MORE OF THAT INFORMATION SO THAT WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THE POSSIBLE SITUATIONS INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO INTERVIEWING THE FINDER, WHETHER A FINDER BRINGS A CAT TO THE SHELTER OR FIRST CALLS TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT, THE INITIAL POINT OF CONTACT MAY PRESENT THE BEST OPPORTUNITY FOR OBTAINING CRITICAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE CAT IN HIS CIRCUMSTANCES.
STAFF PERSON DOING THE INTAKE SHOULD USE THE CAT STRAY INTAKE FORM APPENDIX C.
UM, AND WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL TO INTERVIEW THE FINDER AND RECORD THE RESPONSES ONCE COMPLETE.
VERIFY THE ANSWERS WITH THE FINDER.
SO GO BACK THROUGH IT, UM, AND CONFIRM THE CORRECT SPELLING OF THE FINDER'S NAME AND ADDRESS AND ACCURACY OF ALL THE PHONE NUMBERS.
THIS IS THE MOST VITAL PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR OUR PROGRAM'S SUCCESS.
THE ACCURACY OF THE ADDRESS PROVIDED SHOULD BE CONFIRMED AND VERIFIED.
SO THIS JUST OVEREMPHASIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ADDRESS AND VERIFYING IT.
UM, THE INFORMATION'S GONNA BE ENTERED INTO FIELD SERVICES, UM, SHELTER, LOVE IF THE CAT HAS A CHIP, OR ID MAKE SURE THE SOURCE IS AWARE THAT IF THE CONTACT IS NOT MADE WITH A REGISTERED OWNER, THE CAT MAY BE, UM, TAKEN BACK TO THE ADDRESS THEY PROVIDED.
SO THIS IS IDEALLY THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE IN A CONVERSATION.
UM, AND WE WANT THE CONVERSATION.
AND EVEN WHEN WE, WE CAN JUMP TO THE INTAKE C TO DISCUSS THOSE QUESTIONS TOO REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL JUMP BACK.
SO THE STRAY INTAKE FORM, IT'S GONNA BE A CONVERSATION.
WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL, UM, AS IF WE'RE, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET IN MORE INFORMATION AND FIND OUT WHERE ALL THESE CATS ARE.
AND WE JUST WANT IT TO BE A FRIENDLY, ENGAGING CONVERSATION.
'CAUSE WE'RE HERE TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S OUR GOAL.
WE'RE HERE TO HELP THE CATS AND THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE GONNA GATHER THEIR INFORMATION AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH FINDER DETAILS.
WHAT IS THE REASON FOR CONTACTING ANIMAL CARE REGARDING THIS CAT? SO LET'S FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHY YOU'RE HERE AND HOW WE CAN HELP.
DID YOU CARE FOR THIS CAT INDOORS AFTER FINDING SO MANY CITIZENS? BRING THE CATS INSIDE.
SO WE'RE GONNA ASK IF THEY BROUGHT HIM INSIDE FOR HOW LONG, WHAT DID YOU OBSERVE? WE WANNA FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THE CAT INDIVIDUAL AND HIS BEHAVIOR.
PLEASE DESCRIBE ANY INJURIES OR ILLNESSES YOU'RE AWARE OF.
HOW EASY WAS THIS CAT TO HANDLE AND PLACE IN A CARRIER? I THINK THAT GOES TO MEETING THE INITIAL CONCERN ABOUT YOU CAN'T TELL A CAT, YOU CAN'T TELL ABOUT A CAT STRESS LEVEL WHEN HE IS IN A CAGE.
AND THEN YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T TELL IT WHEN HE'S AT THE SHELTER.
SO LET'S FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HOW HE WAS, UM, IN THE ENVIRONMENT THAT HE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN COMFORTABLE IN.
IT'S JUST PUTTING TOGETHER A LITTLE BIG BIGGER PIECE OF THE PUZZLE.
WHERE WAS THIS CAT FOUND? PRIMARY, PRIMARY QUESTION.
HOW LONG HAVE YOU OBSERVED THIS CAT OUTSIDE AT THIS LOCATION? THIS CAT MAY HAVE A CARETAKER.
DO YOU KNOW OF ANY LOCATION WHERE THIS CAT SPENDS OR HAS SPENT THEIR TIME? ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER OUTDOOR CATS IN THIS AREA? AND THIS IS REALLY ESSENTIAL FOR US TO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
THIS IS NOT TO PINPOINT ANYBODY OR, YOU KNOW, TO GET ANYBODY IN TROUBLE.
IT'S ABOUT FINDING OUT HOW WE CAN HELP THE COMMUNITY IF, OH YEAH, I KNOW THREE HOUSES DOWN, SHE'S GOT LIKE 10 CATS.
LET'S GO HELP, LET'S GO HELP THE CITIZEN.
LET'S CHECK IN AND SEE IF THEY NEED ANY HELP.
WHEN THIS CAT COMES BACK TO THIS LOCATION AFTER BEING SPAYED, NEUTERED, VACCINATED, EART TIPS.
ARE YOU INTERESTED IN REGISTERING, UH, AS A COMMUNITY CAT CAREGIVER? SO THAT WILL GO INTO THE CONVERSATION OF CONTINUING TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM.
UM, AND WE PHRASED IT THIS WAY BECAUSE THAT'S CURRENTLY WHAT BREEDS IN THE ORDINANCE, REGISTERED COMMUNITY, CAT CARE RIVER.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER INFO INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US? SO WE REALLY SEE THIS AS AN OPEN CONVERSATION AND WE'RE, OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE AN HONEST FEEDBACK SO WE CAN MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE CAT'S WELFARE.
UM, I JUST WANNA ASK, SO IS THIS THE CONVERSATION THAT SOMEBODY AT THE SHELTER IS HAVING OR DO YOU PHYSICALLY HAND IN THIS FORM OR DO YOU, ARE YOU ASKING THE QUESTIONS TO THEM AND THEN YOU'RE DOCUMENTING IT IN? OR IS IT AT THE SHELTER OR IN THE FIELD? I THINK KIND OF WHEREVER IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
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BUT IT WOULD BE SOMEBODY FROM THE SHELTER REPRESENTING THE SHELTER WOULD BE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS? YES.NOT GIVING THEM A FORM TO, TO HAND OUT.
AND WE'RE KIND OF TAKING DOWN THE INFORMATION OR PLUGGING IT RIGHT INTO THE FIELD SERVICES.
AND ONE MORE QUESTION SINCE YOU'RE GOING BACK.
UM, SO IT WENT THROUGH THE KITTEN FLOW AND THEN THE ADULT CAT FLOW, AND THEN I SEE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE FURTHER DEFINITION? LIKE, IS THIS ELIGIBILITY TO RETURN TO THE FIELD? YES.
SO THE NEXT ONE WAS THE INTAKE EXAM.
AND WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH FOR APPENDIX D AND REVIEW THE PHYSICAL EXAM.
UM, IT'S PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE.
TAKING A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE BODY CONDITION, THE COLOR RECORDING, THE HYDRATION, UM, EYES, EARS, MOUTH, MOUTH, ALL OF THOSE.
ALL OF THOSE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CAT IS THRIVING OR NOT.
UM, ARE YOU, YOU'RE ON YOUR, UM, VET, WHERE ARE YOU? APPENDIX DI BELIEVE PAGE NINE IS AGE ON HERE.
H IS ON THERE WHERE IT'S PART OF THE ACTUAL INTAKE IN LIKE WHEN YOU ENTER THE ACTUAL ANIMALS DATA.
THE PHYSICAL EXAM DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY IN THE INTAKE SECTION.
SO IT, IT IS INCLUDED IN THE PHYSICAL EXAM IS BY A VET, RIGHT? NO, THE PHYSICAL EXAM IS BY STAFF.
BUT IT WOULD BE, WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO GET THAT REVERIFIED AT THE VET DURING THE TIME OF SURGERY.
SO THE AGE WILL BE, YOU'LL GET AN OPINION ON AGE DURING SURGERY.
WE, WE CERTAINLY WANT AN OPINION ON AGE TO VERIFY AND THE BODY CONDITION AS WELL.
SO HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU GET THAT TO HAPPEN? LIKE IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE MEDICAL DATA YOU GET BACK FROM THE VET ABOUT THE AGE? 'CAUSE IT'S SO HARD.
IDEALLY THEY INCLUDE IT ON THE, THE INFORMATION THAT GETS SUBMITTED FROM THE CLINIC.
BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO REQUEST THAT 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING.
WE FIRST NEED TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE OPEN AND THEY CAN, UM, HELP US WITH THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN WE'D ASK IF THAT COULD BE INCLUDED TOO, WHEN THEY SUBMIT THE MEDICAL RECORDS.
SO DOES N SUBMIT RADICAL MEDICAL RECORDS BACK TO THE SHELTER? YES, THEY DO.
LIKE THE, THE SURGERY, UM, RECORD THEY SEND BACK JUST SAYS, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR IS KIND OF AN EXTRA STEP TO THAT.
UM, BUT THEIR OFFICE MANAGER HAS BEEN OUT IT, SO LIKE THE DIFFERENCE.
SO WE CAN'T GET AN ANSWER JUST YET.
SO LIKE THE SURGERY RECORDS THAT I'VE SEEN FROM N AND THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION THAT THEY BE MORE COMPLETE.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'LL, THEY DON'T, THEY JUST SAY IT'S SPAYED OR NEUTERED.
THEY DON'T SAY IF IT'S ALREADY BEEN SPAYED OR ALREADY BEEN NEUTERED.
SO THERE'S THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND I'M, I MEAN, AND, AND LIKE OTHER VETS WOULD PUT IN IF THE FEMALES HAD PYOMETRA OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, INFECTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON.
SO WE DON'T HAVE INSIGHT TO THAT WITH ANY OF THESE ANIMALS COMING BACK FROM SCHOOL.
I HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS WE ASK TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE OPEN TO.
HAS THOSE RECORDS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO BACK TO SNIP AND ASK ABOUT THESE ANIMALS? THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE THOSE RECORDS.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE GET THEM.
WE JUST GET LIKE THE RABIES CERT THAT SAYS YEAH, IT'S A SPADE NEUTERED.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO EAR TIP THEM BASED ON THEIR EVALUATION IF IT'S SPAYED ALREADY OR NOT.
AND WE DON'T LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE ANIMALS TO SAY, OH, DO YOU HAVE AN INCISION? SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S GONNA BE I THINK AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE RECORD.
OH, IS IT FOLLOWING INTO, LIKE, CAN YOU REPEAT ONE MORE TIME? SO WHEN A FEMALE GOES TO SNIP RIGHT, THEY'LL EAR TIP IT SPAY AND EAR TIP, THEY WILL VERIFY SPAY.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THEY VERIFIED SPAY.
'CAUSE ON THE CERTIFICATE THEY JUST CALL IT SPAY.
RIGHT? YOU'RE WE'RE SAYING THAT WE WANNA GET ADDITIONAL MEDICAL DETAILS.
SAME OF THAT, THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE HISTORY OF THE CAT AND EVERYTHING.
AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT THEY DO HAVE THAT FULL HISTORY ALREADY, BUT THEY'RE NOT SUBMITTING THAT TO US, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN VERY MUCH ASK.
YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SUBMIT, DEFINITELY HAVE THAT, SUBMIT THE ADDITIONAL RECORDS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON HAND
LIKE THEY ACTUALLY MADE AN INCISION AND YEAH, YEAH.
WE JUST NOTICED ON THE ADULT CAP FLOW YOU HAVE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, MINIMUM THREE POUNDS, THREE POUNDS, AND THREE MONTHS OF AGE.
DOES THAT JIVE WITH THE KITTENS? KITTEN ONE MM-HMM.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE TWO TO THREE MONTHS AND TWO POUNDS
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YES.SO I THINK IT ALMOST SHOULD SAY FOUR POUNDS AND FOUR MONTHS ON THE NEXT PAGE AS THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO RETURN TO FIELD TO MATCH THE WHAT'S ALREADY SHOWN IN THE KITTEN FLOW.
I THINK AS LONG AS THEY'RE, AS LONG AS THEY'RE 45 MONTHS AND THEY'RE THREE POUNDS.
THEY HAVE TO BE MINIMUM THREE POUNDS FOR SURGERY.
SO AS LONG AS THEY'RE THREE POUNDS AND OF AGE, THEN THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR RELEASE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE FOUR POUNDS 'CAUSE THEY MAY BE LEAN.
SO, UM, SHOULD THAT CHANGE THEN TO FOUR MONTHS OF AGE THEN INSTEAD ON THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS? BECAUSE TWO TO THREE MONTHS DOESN'T, OH, I SEE.
CAN I BORROW YOUR PEN? AND WHILE YOU'RE EDITING, CAN YOU JUST CHANGE THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO BE THE FULL, LIKE TO WHATEVER IT IS, LIKE RETURN TO FIELD OR, SO IT'S CLEAR WHAT ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR RETURN TO HOME.
I GUESS THAT'S THE OTHER THING IS THAT I SEE RTF ON THE THING.
WHAT THE, I ASSUME THEY MEAN THE SAME THING.
RETURN TO FIELD, RETURN TO HOME MEANS THE SAME THING DO, WE'RE WORKING ON MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE TERMINOLOGY IS THE SAME AND CONSISTENT.
AND SO WE HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING, UM, BECAUSE WE STILL NEED TO COMPLETE, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL HANDOUTS AND MARKETING MATERIAL.
AND IT'S ALL GONNA SAY RETURN TO HOME BECAUSE IT'S HONESTLY THE MESSAGE THAT WE WANT TO BE CONVEYING.
IT'S NOT A RELEASE TO THE WILD.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT IS SCARY.
THESE CATS ALREADY HAVE THEIR HOMES AND WE ARE HELPING THEM GET BACK TO WHERE THEY ARE COMFORTABLE THEIR HOME.
WE'RE HELPING THEM GET BACK THERE.
I LIKE THE HOME TERM BETTER THAN THE FIELD.
I I WAS DEFINITELY, THAT'S A NEWER TERM AS WELL AND I'M, I'M GLAD THEY CAME UP WITH THAT TERM.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON TRANSITIONING ALL THAT TERMINOLOGY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REALLY WANNA GO THROUGH THE NEXT STEPS.
IT'S MORE INTERNAL PROCESS STUFF.
YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW IT'S, YEAH.
HOW IT'S BEING SHELTER, LOVE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, HOW THE APOS ARE GONNA TRACK WITH THE PAPERWORK AND I'LL SKIP THROUGH THAT.
BUT SOMETHING THAT I REALLY, THAT I REALLY APPRECIATED WAS DEFINING THE IMPUNITY, DEFINING THE COMMUNITY CAT PROGRAM ZONES, REALLY TRACKING THE INFORMATION AND WHERE THESE CATS ARE COMING FROM AND GOING BACK TO WILL HELP US IDENTIFY COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NEED MORE HELP AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT'S INCREDIBLY VALUABLE AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
SO, AND THEN WE CAN READ THROUGH THE RETURN TO HOME STEPS AS WELL.
UM, BECAUSE THIS IS ALSO IMPORTANT THEN GOES INTO EXPLAINING HOW WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED TO, IN REGARDS TO MAKING SURE THAT THESE CATS ARE SAFE AND THEY'RE GOING BACK TO A SAFE PLACE AND THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THEIR EXACT ADDRESS.
UM, SO WHENEVER POSSIBLE RETURN THE CAT TO THE EXACT LOCATION WHERE TRAPPED ADULT CATS MAY BE RETURNED ONLY UP TO 300 FEET ABOUT THE LENGTH OF A FOOTBALL FIELD FROM THE EXACT TRAPPING LOCATION IF NEEDED.
THE DOUBLE CHECK THAT THERE ARE NO VISIBLE SIGNS OF ILLNESS INJURY, RESIDUAL EFFECTS FROM SURGERY LIKE BLEEDING OR GROGGINESS.
AS THIS IS THE LAST CHANCE TO CATCH SUCH ISSUES PRIOR TO RETURNING THE CAT.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE ALMOST A THIRD CHECKPOINT TO VERIFY THAT EVERYBODY IS GOOD TO GO.
MAKE SURE THAT THE SPOT CHOSEN TO RELEASE THE CAT FROM THE TRAP DOES NOT ENCOURAGE THEM TO RUN TOWARD A DANGEROUS CONDITION SUCH AS A BUSY STREET OR DOGS WHO ARE NEARBY.
CONSIDER RELEASING THE CAT ON A SIDE STREET WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE CAT'S ORIGINAL LOCATION, WHICH GIVE THESE, GIVES THE CAT ACCESS TO THE PREFERRED SITE AND PROVIDES A SAFER, QUIETER OPTION.
DON'T RELEASE THE CAT NEXT TO PARKED VEHICLES.
UM, AND IT DISCUSSES HOW THEY COULD RUN UP TO THE NEAREST PLACE OF SHELTER IN THEIR LINE OF SIGHT, WHICH MEANS THEY MAY RUN UNDERNEATH A CAR, KEEP THE TRAP COVERED TO REDUCE THE STRESS.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT, BUT THAT'S WHY KEEP THE TRAP COVERED UNTIL YOU ARE ALMOST READY TO RELEASE THE CAT.
THEN QUIETLY UNCOVER THE TRAP, ALLOWING THE CAT TO TAKE IN THEIR SURROUNDINGS, RECOGNIZE THEIR HOME FOR ABOUT 15 TO 30 SECONDS.
WHEN YOU'RE READY TO RELEASE THE CAT, SIMPLY HOLD THE TRAP WITH THE REAR DOOR FACING AWAY FROM YOU AND OPEN THE DOOR.
THE CAT MAY TRY TO ESCAPE BEFORE THE ESCAPE, BEFORE THE TRAP IS OPEN.
IF THE CAT DOESN'T RACE OUTTA THE TRAP, IMMEDIATELY TILT THE TRAP AT THE END.
UM, CLOSEST TO YOU IS RAISED SLIGHTLY.
YOU MAY ALSO TRY TAPPING LIGHTLY ON THE TRAP TO ENCOURAGE THE CAT TO LEAVE.
NEVER PUT YOUR HAND IN THE TRAP.
POSITIONING THE TRAP TOWARD A BUSH OR OTHER SAFE FORM OF SHELTER MAY ENCOURAGE THE CAT TO RUN INTO THE DESIRE, INTO THE DESIRED DIRECTION.
UM, HANG THE COMMUNITY CAT INFORMATION, BROCHURES AT THE DOOR.
SO WE HAVE TWO BROCHURES ALREADY MADE AND WE ALSO INTEND, UM, AND I CAN
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TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE TOO, TO DEVELOP SOME ADDITIONAL MARKETING MATERIAL AND HOW WE'RE GONNA PROMOTE THE PROGRAM AND REALLY GO INTO EDUCATING, EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE NEW TO ALL OF US.UM, CATS ARE THEN DISPOSITIONED.
THEY'RE GONNA BE REGISTERED IN THE SYSTEM AS RETURN TO HOME.
UM, ALL OF THE RESOURCES ARE BELOW AND WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF WALKED THROUGH THE ATTACHMENTS.
OKAY, ONE MORE QUESTION GOING BACK TO THE ADULT CAT FLOW.
SO IF, IF THE CAT COMES IN AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY EAR TIPPED AND IT'S IN THRIVING, THEN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY FOR THREE DAYS AT THE SHELTER AND STRAY.
IF YOU ALREADY KNOW IT'S SPARE NEUTERED AND IT'S IT, AND IT'S STILL IN A AND YOU EITHER IT, THE MICROCHIP GOES TO THAT AREA ALREADY, SO YOU KNOW THAT IT'S FROM THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THAT? UH, WELL I KNOW THAT WE ADDED IN THE HOLDING FOR A FULL SHAPE PERIOD, RIGHT? SO IF THEY WERE THRIVING, SHE, SHE ADDED, YEAH, SHE ADDED, IF THEY WERE THRIVING IT, IT WAS TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS THAT THEY MAY BE, UM, LOST.
UM, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU'RE SAYING MAYBE THE, THE CHIP INDICATES IT WAS PREVIOUSLY RELEASED.
YEAH, THAT'S, I I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
LIKE, YOU'RE NOT KEEPING THEM FOR THREE DAYS IN HOPES OF SOMEONE COMING WHEN WE'VE ALREADY RELEASED THEM TO THAT AREA IN THE PAST.
AND AS LONG AS I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT IDEALLY NO, BUT I THINK THAT'S GOING TO DEPEND ON WHAT THAT, THAT FINDER CONVERSATION.
I THINK IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THAT FINDER CONVERSATION BECAUSE EACH TIME THEY COME IN, WE REALLY NEED TO GET A FULL STORY ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHAT'S GOING ON ON.
UM, SO IDEALLY, NO, BUT AGAIN, IT'S GONNA DEPEND ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GET.
WAIT, WHAT LETTER, COMPLETE IT, WHATEVER.
UM, SO TO DISCUSS, UM, SOME OF THE, I BELIEVE IT WAS AMERICAN PETS ALIVE MM-HMM.
THEY CAME THROUGH AND THEY GAVE US SOME PROPOSED OPPORTUNITIES AND A LOT OF IT WAS EDUCATIONAL MATERIAL AND MARKETING MATERIAL.
SO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ARE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY CATS AND HOW TO LIVE OUTSIDE WITH A CAT.
UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO INCLUDE ARE HOW TO FIND YOUR CAT, UM, ADDED BARCODES FOR PEOPLE TO QUICKLY SCAN TO EITHER FIND OUT HOW TO GET MORE INVOLVED WHEN THEY FIND OUT ABOUT COMMUNITY CATS IN THE PROGRAM OR, AND OR WHAT TO DO IF YOU SEE A STRAY CAT WITHOUT AN EAR TIP.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT EITHER.
UM, SO WE REALLY WANNA ADD MORE INFORMATION, UM, EDUCATE THE, THE TEAM AND THE VOLUNTEERS.
WE ALL NEED TO HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION SO WE'RE CONSISTENT IN HELPING THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDING RESOURCES AND USING THE SAME TERM TERMINOLOGY.
SO I, I KNOW EVERYBODY IS ALREADY AN EXPERT, BUT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH IT AGAIN JUST TO REFRESH OURSELVES.
UM, AND I THINK PAIRING THIS, UH, WHEN WE BEGIN THE PROGRAM, PAIRING IT WITH, UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME VIDEOS.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME VIDEOS TALKING ABOUT THE PROGRAM AND JUST EDUCATIONAL FUN POINTS.
AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO LIKE SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS INCLUDE THE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE IDEA THAT THE CITY COULD HELP PROMOTE IT TOO.
UM, AND REALLY TALKING ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, WITH CUSTOMERS AND CITIZENS AS THEY COME TO THE SHELTER.
AND THAT WOULD HELP MEET WHAT THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE COULD DO BETTER ON
AND THE, THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT FOR THE CITY HAS ALREADY EXPRESSED THEIR INTEREST IN, IN HELPING US.
I THINK IT ADDRESSES SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WITH JUST TAKING EVERYTHING BACK TO WHERE IT WAS EVEN, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WE, YOU CAN TELL THAT IT WAS EITHER AN INDOOR CAD OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, IT'S DEFINITELY A, A WAY BETTER STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE AGREES, BUT
UM, BUT BASICALLY IT TAKES US BACK, IN MY OPINION.
TELL ME, TELL ME IF YOU, HOW YOU DISAGREE.
IT TAKES ME BACK TO RIGHT WHERE WE WERE, UM, IN JULY OF 2023.
DOES IT LOOK LIKE THE CAT'S THRIVING? IT'S BACK OUT IN THREE DAYS.
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I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE.AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE DISAPPOINTING.
AND, AND THREE DAYS IS, IS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT CAT'S LIKE.
UM, THAT'S JUST AN EFFORT TO GET A CAT BACK OUTSIDE.
SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN? DOES IT APPEAR IF IT WAS THRIVING, IT GOES BACK OUTSIDE.
WE'RE EVALUATING THE PHYSICAL'S.
WHAT CONDITION'S SAYS DOES IT APPEAR IT WAS THRIVE ORIGIN OUTDOORS.
SO YOU FOUND A STRAY, WHATEVER IT DOES IT APPEAR IT WAS THRIVING.
IT RETURNED TO HOME AFTER THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD.
AND THE STRAY HOLD PERIOD IS THREE DAYS, INCLUDING BOXING IT UP, TAKING IT, WELL THAT'S NOT THE INTAKE DAY, BUT THEN IT'S THREE DAYS AND IT GETS SPAYED AND NEUTERED WITHIN THAT TIME TOO.
IT WOULD BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED AFTER THREE DAYS.
AND THE THREE DAYS THERE WAS, OH, AFTER THE THREE DAYS, AFTER THE THREE DAYS, THE THREE DAYS, THERE'S RESEARCH BEHIND THE THREE DAY PERIOD.
UM, THERE ARE STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT IF ANYBODY'S GONNA FIND A CAT IN THE SHELTER, IT'S GONNA BE WITHIN THREE DAYS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED ON THE THREE DAYS AFTER WE'RE.
SO, AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES WILL FIND ANIMALS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
SOME COMMUNITIES WILL GO TO THE SHELTER.
SOME COMMUNITIES WAIT FOR THE CATS TO SHOW BACK UP.
SO WE ARE MEETING BOTH, BOTH GROUPS OF COMMUNITIES IN HOLDING THEM AT THE SHELTER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE WE'RE RELEASING THEM.
AND THERE'S NO REASON TO HOLD THEM AT THE SHELTER IF THEY'RE THRIVING.
BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO RESEARCH THAT SHOWS REGARDLESS OF THE STRESS LEVELS THAT THE CAT SHOWS AT ANY POINT IN TIME, UM, YOU WERE, YOU SHOULD NOT BE REMOVING THEM FROM THE ENVIRONMENT BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY PLAY A ROLE IN THE NICHE, JUST LIKE THE, THE SCARED CATS DO.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THAT VACUUM EFFECT, WHICH I'M SURE WE'RE ALL AWARE OF.
SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KIND OF STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT FOR THIS COMMUNITY PROGRAM TO WORK TO REDUCE THE COMMUNITY CATS.
THAT'S WHERE WE WERE BACK IN JULY AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THE COMMUNITY CAME TO CITY COUNCIL AND DISAGREED.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY, OH, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, LEVEL FOUR OR FIVE OR WHATEVER.
SO I MEAN, THEN THE WHOLE BODY CONDITION SCORE IS GOOD AND THEN IT GOES BACK OUTSIDE, WHICH MADE NO SENSE TO US.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE, THE, THE INTAKE FLOW WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PERSON AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, I'M JUST FEEDING IT 'CAUSE IT'S HERE.
SO THEN THEY'RE GOING AROUND AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING SURE THAT EITHER THEY'RE GOING AROUND AND WHAT HON TELL ME IF, WELL IF THEY'RE NOT, IF, IF THAT PERSON IS JUST SAYING IT CAME IN AS IT, I FOUND IT AS A STRAY MM-HMM.
IT EITHER GOT DROPPED OFF IN THE AREA OR MAYBE THE PERSON MOVED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IN THAT CASE YOU DONE THE INTERVIEW WITH THE PERSON WHO EITHER FOUND IT, TRAPPED IT.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP THERE? WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS YOUR QUESTION? IF I, I FOUND A CAT.
IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN SHOWING UP AT MY HOUSE FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS.
IT OBVIOUSLY LOOKS WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF, BUT IT'S NOT LEAVING.
SO I MIGHT ASSUME THAT MAYBE THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME MOVED OUT AND THEY LEFT THEIR CAT OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE, SO I DON'T THINK IT LIVES AROUND HERE.
WOULD YOU WANT TO BRING THAT CAT BACK TO MY H BACK TO MY HOUSE WHEN I JUST SAID THAT? I DON'T THINK IT'S FROM AROUND HERE.
HAVE YOU TALKED TO YOUR NEIGHBORS? OF COURSE.
I MEAN I WOULD, BUT I WOULD, ANY NORMAL OTHER CITIZEN I WOULD SAY WOULD PROBABLY BE ALONG THE LINES OF, I DON'T KNOW.
CAN YOU GUYS DO THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD, IF THE CAT IS HEALTHY BODY CONDITION WISE, THEN WE WILL HOLD THEM FOR THE STRAIGHT PERIOD AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT LOST.
UM, AND THEN WE'LL LET THE CITIZEN KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS.
AND SO LET THE CITIZEN KNOW AT THAT TIME AFTER THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU KNOW, THE CATTLE GO BACK TO THE ENVIRONMENT.
IF HE'S PASSES THE PHYSICAL EXAM AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD TO GO AND IF HE CONTINUES TO BE A CONCERN, PLEASE BRING HIM BACK TO US.
UM, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF HE IS SOMEONE'S PET THAT WANDERED UP AND TRIED TO GET ANOTHER MEAL FROM A NEW HOUSE OR NOT.
AND SO HE MAY BE SOMEBODY'S PET.
AND SO THAT IS OUR GOAL, TO GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOLD 'EM IN THE SHELTER, GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO FIND HIM IN THE SHELTER AND THEN PUT 'EM BACK IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
AND ALSO ASK THE CITIZEN TO KNOW, LET US KNOW.
LET US KNOW IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.
MAYBE YOU DON'T NEED TO BRING 'EM BACK IN.
AND ANIMAL CONTROL CAN HELP THE ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS CAN GO HELP, YOU KNOW, TRAP THE CAT AGAIN.
UM, BUT I, WE DON'T KNOW UNLESS WE TRY AND THERE'S ENOUGH RESEARCH OUT THERE THAT SAYS A
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LOT OF THESE CATS ARE JUST WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.AND WE HAVE EXAMPLE AFTER EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE ABANDONING THE CATS.
THEY DON'T FIND OUT FOR SOME TIME LATER IT WAS TWO STREETS OVER, THEY ABANDONED FOUR CATS.
THIS IS ONE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MICROCHIPPED INTO HOUSTON.
THEY'RE ALL KINDS OF STORIES IF THEY'RE MICROCHIPPED YEAH.
YOU CALL THOSE MICROCHIPS WILL BE RESEARCHED.
AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE RELEASED UNTIL THE MICROCHIPS ARE RESEARCH.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY THAT WE'RE RIGHT BACK WHERE WE WERE.
BUT I THINK THAT DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT WE DID, WE DID HEAR YOUR CONCERNS.
WE ALSO READ THROUGH ALL OF THE CITIZEN SURVEYS, UM, AND WE TOOK THAT, THAT INFORMATION AND WE IMPROVED THE WAY THAT WE'RE DETERMINING THRIVING BECAUSE WE, WE HEARD YOU, WE HEARD THAT HEY, JUST GLANCING AT IT, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T FEEL, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT YOU WANTED SOMETHING MORE THOROUGH.
SO WE'VE IMPROVED OUR PROCESS FOR HOW WE ARE DETERMINING IT.
WE'RE ADDING THAT IN FOR THE VETS AND WE'RE ADDING IN A VERY THOROUGH CONVERSATION WITH THE FINDER TO TRY TO GET MORE IN DEPTH INFORMATION TO REALLY GET A FULL PICTURE OF THE ANIMAL.
SO I I, AND ENGAGED, I RESPECT YOUR OPINION THAT WE'RE IN THE SAME SPOT, BUT I WOULD, I WOULD DISAGREE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT IN THE SAME SPOT WE WERE A YEAR AGO.
PEOPLE LIE ALL THE TIME WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING THE CAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON FOR THE THOROUGH INTERVIEW IS TO REALLY TRY TO NOT, THEY DO NOT, UM, NOT MAKE THEM FEEL AS IF ANYBODY'S GETTING INTO TROUBLE, BUT JUST AN HONEST CONVERSATION.
AND SO WE, WE, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO GET THAT HONEST CONVERSATION AND THE FEEDBACK TO GET THE HISTORY OF THE CAT.
UM, AND ALSO TO ENGAGE THEM IF THEY'RE INTERESTED, YOU KNOW, LETTING THEM KNOW THE PLAN AND LETTING 'EM KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE SHELTER AND HOW IT IS, HOW IT'S GONNA HELP THE CATS AS WELL.
SO WHAT IF THEY SAY YOU DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT THE CAT BROUGHT BACK EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION.
WE, THERE'S WHOLE BUNCH OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THEM TO CONVINCE THEM THAT IT'S OKAY TO HELP THEM WORK THROUGH ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE.
AND MITIGATE THE PROBLEMS. YEP.
BUT I MEAN, AS ALWAYS, IF THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THE ANIMAL'S IN DANGER AT THAT LOCATION, WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT RETURN NO.
IF, AND THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF HOW WE FEEL.
NO, THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN MM-HMM,
IF YOU GUYS FELT LIKE THE ANIMAL WAS IN DANGER.
I, I I DON'T SEE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE HERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S A CONVERSATION.
I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATIONS, LIKE THERE WAS A, A FORM THAT I GOT THAT I FILLED OUT FOR THE OFFICER, AND THE OFFICER JUST TURNED AROUND AND SAID, YEAH, YOU'RE JUST PROBABLY WRONG.
THE CAT JUST LIVES A COUPLE STREETS OVER.
I MEAN THAT'S, AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEING HERE.
THE THEY'RE CONVINCED THAT THE CAT HAS A, HAS A, HAS A HOME SOMEWHERE THAT EVERY NICE CAT OR STRAY CAT THAT YOU FIND IF IT'S APPEARING THRIVING, IT HAS A HOME THERE AND WE KNOW THAT'S OKAY.
THEY TAKE IT BACK AND THEN THE NEXT TIME IT'S BROUGHT IN, IT'S IN EITHER THE SAME CONDITION, SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEING TAKEN CARE OF OR IT'S IN A WORSE CONDITION, THEN IT DOESN'T GO BACK THERE.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING SOMEBODY'S OUTSIDE CAT AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE CAT.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE THEIR OUTSIDE CATS.
YOU JUST, IF SOME, IF MY NEIGHBOR DOESN'T WANT ME TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE CAT, HE COULD JUST CONTINUE TO CALL.
AND SO RATHER THAN DEALING WITH THE NEIGHBOR ISSUE OF MAKING SURE THAT THE CAT IS, THEY'RE GETTING I GUESS THE EDUCATION OF HOW TO DETER AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE, I MEAN, WE ALREADY KNOW IF THERE'S ROOM IN THE SHELTER, YOU JUST WANNA KEEP THEM THERE.
BUT PEOPLE DO COME AND GET THEIR CATS OUTTA THE SHELTER AND THEN THEY CALL SOMETIMES AND PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEIR CATS BACK.
BUT SO THIS GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO GET THEIR CAT MORE, ACTUALLY MORE THAN THREE DAYS TECHNICALLY, BECAUSE THE THREE DAYS IS THE HOLD AND THEN IT HAS TO GET FIXED SO THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO FIND THEIR CAT IF IT'S MISSING.
THEY KIND OF START LOOKING AFTER LIKE THREE DAYS.
I MEAN, I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR MY CAT AFTER IT, NOT SHOWING UP TO EAT BECAUSE HE'S ALWAYS HUNGRY.
SO THEY DO, AND THEY SIT THERE AND THEY WONDER, BUT THEY GIVE IT ANOTHER COUPLE DAYS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE KIND OF WAIT, BUT WHAT I'M I'M SAYING IN THIS CAT FLOW THAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, MM-HMM MM-HMM.
THEY'RE GOING TO SAY THE CAT'S NOT THRIVING.
SOMEONE'S GOING TO EITHER CALL OR IT'S GOING TO BE TRAPPED OR FOUND.
WHO? IF THE CAT SHOWS BACK UP WHEN OH, LIKE IF THEY DROP IT OFF? YES.
AND IT SHOWS BACK UP AT YOUR HOUSE OR, OR MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE'S HOUSE THE NEXT WEEK
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BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE WON'T KNOW WHAT IT JUST WENT THROUGH.WELL, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS IF IT SHOWS BACK UP AT THE SHELTER, THEN THEY, NOW IT'S NOW IT'S MICROCHIPPED.
SO NOW THEY HAVE A HISTORY ON THAT CAT.
AND THEN THEY HAVE A COMPARISON BETWEEN, HERE'S YOUR INTAKE FORM, IT SAID THAT THIS CAT WAS THRIVING.
NOW IT LOOKS A LITTLE LEAN IT LOOK YOU KNOW A LOT LEANER THAN IT WAS THE LAST TIME IT CAME IN.
WE DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN SEND THIS CAT BACK OUT TO THE FIELD.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, FOUR IS LEAN.
SO MAYBE BEFORE IT WAS, WHAT CAN GO BACK OUT? LEAN FOUR THROUGH SIX.
SO IF, IF IT CAME IN AS LEAN BEFORE IT STILL LOOKED LIKE IT WAS THRIVING, IT LEFT AND THEN THE NEXT TIME IT COMES BACK IT'S ONE, TWO OR THREE, THEN IT'S NOT GOING BACK.
SO YOU, WE'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM.
WE'RE, BUT WE'RE ALSO ALLOWING THE PEOPLE TO HAVE THE OUTSIDE CAT IF THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY'VE NOT, AND WE'RE HELPING THEM WITH THEIR OUTSIDE CATS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN HELP THEM WITH THEIR OUTSIDE CATS THAT CAN GET SPAY NEUTER.
SO WE'RE LIKE, THIS IS FREE SPAY NEUTER, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND THEY CAN ALSO REGISTER WITH US THAT, THAT OPTIONAL REGISTRATION.
SO LIKE YOU MENTIONED, AMY, MAYBE YOUR CAT GOT OUT, YOUR NEIGHBOR BROUGHT IT TO US, AND YOU DID COME AND GET IT.
AND WHEN YOU CAME TO GET IT AND YOU TOLD US, HEY, YEAH, MY CAT LIVES OUTSIDE.
WE'LL SAY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO REGISTER? LET'S GET YOU REGISTERED.
AND THAT WAY IF IT COMES UP AGAIN, WE CAN SAY, YEAH, THAT'S AMY'S CAT.
I MEAN, LET'S HELP YOU WALK THROUGH THIS.
I'LL BE HONEST, I THINK THIS IS BETTER.
I THINK THAT THEY ARE TAKING A, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, WE CAN'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY LIKE HOARD ALL THE ADOPTABLE CATS AT THE SHELTER BECAUSE WE THINK WE CAN GET 'EM ADOPTED BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO ARE OKAY WITH HAVING OUTDOOR CATS OR THEY'RE, AND THEY CAN COME AND GET 'EM HUN.
THEY CAN COME AND GET THEIR THEIR OUTDOOR, OUTDOOR CAT.
BUT WHY, WHY SHOULD I HAVE TO GO PICK UP MY CAT EVERY TIME SOMEBODY, EVERY TIME SOMEBODY GETS IT.
BUT, AND WE HAVE GOTTEN THAT COMPLAINT FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME AND PICKED UP THEIR WORKOUT.
WELL, ONCE YOU CHIP IT WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY'RE NOT CHIPPED, WE DON'T KNOW.
ONCE IT'S CHIPPED, THEN IT CAN GO.
YOU KNOW WHOSE CAT IT IS AND THEN THEY CAN CALL.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE IT GOES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT THE SHELTER WITH NO PROGRESS.
IT GETS CHIPPED AND THEN A DIFFERENT NEIGHBOR.
BUT IF A DIFFERENT NEIGHBOR BRINGS IT IN, THE MICROCHIP WILL GO BACK TO RIGHT.
IT'S STILL GONNA CONTINUE TO GO TO THE SHELTER.
I CAN'T RESPOND TO COMMENT ON THE AUDIENCE.
OH, KEEP IN MIND TOO, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SCAN THE CAT IN THE FIELD.
UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A GREAT NEW PROGRAM WITH OUR CURRENT MICROCHIP SUPPLIER WHERE THEY CAN ACTUALLY DO EVERYTHING FROM THEIR PHONE.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO EVEN GET ON A COMPUTER.
UM, AND IF THEY SCAN THAT CAT IN THE FIELD AND IT LIVES RIGHT THERE, WE'RE NOT, THAT CAT DOESN'T HAVE TO COME INTO THE BUILDING AT ALL.
SO IT LIVES RIGHT THERE MEANS IT WAS FOUND, OR THE RECORDS SHOW IT WAS IN THAT VICINITY.
DOES THE RECORD SAY THAT IT WAS RELEASED IN THAT LOCATION? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT COMMUNITY CAT LOCATION OR DOES IT SAY IT'S REGISTERED TO AN ADOPTER IN THAT LOCATION? RIGHT.
IN WHICH CASE WE'D KNOCK ON THAT DOOR, GIVE A PHONE CALL.
AND IF IT WAS JUST NOT REGISTERED TO AN ADOPTER, IT STILL JUST GETS LEFT THERE, I THINK.
IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, IF, IF THE CONDITION IS FINE YEAH.
IF THE CONDITION IS FINE AND THEN THE OFFICER AT THAT TIME CAN, UM, LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S FOOLPROOF.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY TO DO THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE, THERE'S, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET A CAT BACK IN AND GO, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT, IT'S, IT SUCKS THAT THIS CAT CAME IN AND NOW HE'S VERY, VERY THIN AND WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT HE WAS JUST RECENTLY DROPPED OFF.
AND THAT'S WHY HE STILL HAD, AND THAT'S WHY HE HAD A GOOD, A GOOD SCORE IS A REALITY WITH EVERY OUTCOME, INCLUDING, WHICH IS A REALITY WITH EVERY OUTCOME INCLUDING ADOPTION.
I I I WAS GONNA SAY WE DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, YOU DO YOUR BEST TO, YOU CAN YES.
ESTIMATING LIKE, YOU KNOW THAT THE HOMES THAT THESE ANIMALS ARE GOING TO ARE GONNA TREAT THEM.
IT'S NO GUARANTEE AN ADOPTER IS A, IS A, SO I MEAN, I THINK THAT THIS IS A, ALL THESE BEST FRIENDS PLACES DO AGREE THAT ADOPTION IS A POSITIVE PATH ALSO.
IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A NEGATIVE PATH FOR THESE CATS.
DID I, IS THERE AN AGE? THE AGE WAS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER WITH THE FOUR.
SHE'S GONNA CHANGE IT TO THREE POUNDS AND FOUR MONTHS.
BUT I MEAN THE ADULTS LIKE SIX MONTHS SENIORS GET RELEASED BACK.
DEFINE SENIOR GERIATRIC IS WHEN THEY DON'T GET RELEASED BACK.
DEFINE, TELL ME WHAT'S SENIOR? WHAT'S GERIATRIC? IS IT EIGHT? IS IT NINE? IS IT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE THE AGE INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE WEIGHT, UM, AND THE REST OF
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HIS HEALTH AND THE CONDITION.SO THAT'S WHY I WAS AFTER LIKE THE VET DOING, I MEAN I, I, I'VE FOSTERED CATS LABELED AS SIX MONTHS OLD.
AND THEY WERE ELDERLY, I GUESS WITH ELDERLY PRESENTED WITH ELDERLY DISEASES AND THEY WERE EUTHANIZED.
AND I KNOW IT'S JUST HARD TO AGE THEM.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING THE VETS TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
SO THE AGE, BUT I DON'T SEE AGE ON THE FLOW CHART.
I TAKE A LOOK AFTER, DOES IT APPEAR THE CAT WAS THRIVING? UH, NO.
WHAT IS, HOW OLD IS GERIATRIC? WHAT DOES GERIATRIC, WHAT ARE THOSE CHARACTERISTICS? I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GERIATRIC IN A, IN A, IN A HUMAN IT CHANGE.
IT DEPENDS RIGHT ON HOW YOU'RE DOES, DOESN'T IT? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY LIKE THAT'S GENESIS OVERALL CONDITION, NOT AGE.
AND THERE'S THIS OTHER 70-YEAR-OLD THAT'S OUT THERE PLAYING PICKLEBALL EVERY DAY AND BEING AMAZING.
I WOULDN'T CALL THIS ONE GERIATRIC WHERE I WOULD, THIS IS WHERE WE START GETTING SO DEEP.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY PROGRESS.
IF WE CAN GET 90% OF THE WAY THERE AND Y Y'ALL ARE SATISFIED WITH THIS POLICY, I'D LOVE TO, TO SEE IF WE CAN SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD WITH REINSTATING THE PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S BEEN ON HOLD FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW.
SO IF WE CAN GET 90% OF THE WAY THERE, IF WE CAN GET Y'ALL SUPPORT AND MOVE FORWARD.
WELL, I MEAN, I'VE GOT A, I'VE GOT A FOSTER RIGHT NOW THAT WAS EVALUATED FOR BEING RELEASED.
LIKE, OH GEE, IS IS LIKE, WELL THAT'S NOT FAIR.
HIS BODY SCORE IS PRETTY THIN, BUT SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING SENIOR CATS AND LETTING 'EM GO RIGHT BACK OUT.
HUH? EVERYTHING WILL BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
GEE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT GERIATRIC MEANS.
HONEST TO GOD, IT NEEDS TO BE DEFINED.
WHY? BECAUSE I THOUGHT GERIATRIC WAS LIKE AN AGE TO ME.
YEAH, BUT WHAT IF IT'S, IF IT'S, YEAH.
THRIVING HAS NO, IF IT, IF IT APPEARS HEALTHY, THRIVING IS A BODY SCORE OF FOUR.
KEEP IN MIND WE ALSO NOTED UNDER ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THAT THERE'S NO INJURY, ILLNESS OR OTHER MEDICAL CONCERNS.
UM, AND, AND THAT HAS TO BE AN UMBRELLA TERM.
WE CAN'T LIST OUT EVERY SINGLE POTENTIAL CONCERN.
BUT THAT IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO LOOK AT ALL OF THAT, THAT OVERALL CONDITION.
BECAUSE OUR CONCERNS ARE ALSO YOUR CONCERNS.
IF WE DO NOT THINK THAT THE CAT IS GOING TO THRIVE IN THE ENVIRONMENT HE WAS, WE'RE NOT PLACING HIM BACK IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THESE CATS JUST AS MUCH AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
UM, LIKE UNDER THE PHYSICAL EXAM, WHERE DO YOU LOOK AT THE TEETH THAT WOULD BE UNDER, THAT'S THE AGE, NOSE, MOUTH, DENTAL AS WELL.
PARDON ME? NOSE, MOUTH, DENTAL, NOSE, MOUTH, DENTAL.
SO HOW DO WE DO, WE DON'T DO MEAN DO WE DO THIS NOW? YES.
BUT WE ARE REQUIRING THIS GOING FORWARD AS PART OF A REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY ANIMAL, UM, FOR A MORE THOROUGH EXAM.
AND IN, IN REALITY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CATS WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO EXAMINE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THEIR TEETH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ADDING IN THAT LAYER OF PROTECTION BY ADDING IN THE VET EXAM.
SO THE VET WILL DO THAT AND THAT'S GONNA BE WHILE IT SEDATED AND SAFE TO HANDLE WHILE IT SEDATED.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF LIKE WHAT LAUREL'S HOUSE WILL DO AND YOUR NEW CONTRACTOR, WHOEVER THAT IS, I HAVE A FEELING THEY LIKELY DO IT ALREADY.
UM, BUT WE WANNA CONFIRM AND WE WANNA VERIFY, UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING HIGH VOLUME AND THEY'RE GOING RIGHT.
HIGH VOLUME VATS CAN ALSO LOOK AT TEETH.
THEY CAN DEFINITELY, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO EXCEPT WITH THE YOU EDITS THAT YOU GAVE.
I MEAN I'D SAY THAT THERE WAS THE, THE A THE AGE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE HAD.
AND THEN TO ADD THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS TO JUST MAKE IT CLEAR TO ANYONE READING THIS, THAT THIS IS THE RETURN TO, TO HOME RETURN HOME.
HOME AND THEN BE CONSISTENT WITH RETURN TO HOME YES.
AND THEN I THINK IT'S A STEP IN THE FORWARD DIRECTION.
I I I, I FEEL THE SAME WAY AND I'M GLAD TO SECOND IT.
I THINK DISCUSS, DISCUSSING THINGS IS IMPORTANT, BUT DISCUSSING THINGS, JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO DISAGREE WITH, WHICH IS WHAT SOMETIMES IT FEELS LIKE WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING OUR BEST JOB IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY IN MAKING YOUR JOB AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT KEEPING YOU HAPPY, IT'S NOT KEEPING US HAPPY.
IT'S DOING THE RIGHT THING BY THE ANIMALS AND THE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK THIS HAS GONE A LONG WAY TO DEFINING THINGS AND NOT JUST HAVE IT BE A MATTER OF ASSUMPTIONS.
SO I AM ABSOLUTELY FINE WITH THIS.
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I WROTE DOWN.I, I'M, I'M, I'M, I, I VOTE WE GO FORWARD WITH IT.
I APPROVE THE EDITS THAT WE DISCUSSED.
NOW THAT HAVING BEEN SAID, HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE ORDINANCE CONSTRUCTION? IS THAT A QUORUM THAT AGREED TO GO FORWARD WITH IT? IS THAT A QUORUM? WE HAVE FOUR OF US.
WHO'S THE OTHER? WE HAVE A QUORUM AND THE MAJORITY
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM TO TO, TO HOLD THE VOTE.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE GOES YEAH, I I'VE LOOKED AT IT.
UM, WE'RE INCLUDING A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE ALREADY SPOKE ABOUT.
UM, THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL YET TO BE CORRECTED IS THE REGISTRY MAKING THAT VOLUNTARY RATHER THAN MANDATORY.
SO ONCE WE HAVE THOSE UPDATES, WE'LL BRING THOSE IN FOR, FOR REVIEW AND IT'LL, THIS SHOULD BE A FINAL REVIEW THE NEXT TIME WE SEE IT THEN.
AND THEN SUBMIT IT ONTO COUNSEL AT THAT POINT.
SO RETARGETING FOR NEXT MONTH? YES SIR.
SO NEXT MONTH WILL BE THE BUDGET AND THE ORDINANCE.
AND THE ORDINANCE, WHICH MEANS A FULL, WELL, THE ORDINANCE IS NOT THIS, THIS IS POLICY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE FINAL ON THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT, 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO DEFINE THE POLICY OF YEAH.
WE WANTED THIS DEFINED IN BEFORE WE WENT AHEAD WITH THE ORDINANCE.
BUT I JUST WAS JUST SAYING SO YOU, YOU'RE SAYING BOTH THE ORDINANCE AND THE POLICY AND THE BUDGET NEXT MONTH? NO.
WELL, YEAH, WE CAN LOOK AT THE FI WE CAN, I WOULD EXPECT THE FINAL EDITS BE DONE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT POLICY, WHICH SHOULD BE JUST A, THEY'LL BE DONE TOMORROW.
IF YOU COULD JUST SEND IT OUT AND SAY, SURE.
SO THAT MEANS WE DON'T NEED TO BRING THIS BACK.
WE JUST NEED IT SENT, SENT OUT.
UH, THE QUORUM SAYS THOUGH, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA START THIS POLICY TOMORROW.
IS THAT WHAT THIS MEANS? TELL ME IT WON'T BE TOMORROW.
UM, BUT IT'LL BE HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.
WE DEFINITELY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THE VETS FIRST AND HAD A MINUTE TO GET OUR MARKETING STUFF READY.
UM, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE STARTING OFF ON THE BEST FIT POSSIBLE.
SO WE ABSOLUTELY WANNA START AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE STILL HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS TO PUT TOGETHER REAL QUICK.
IT'S MAKE SURE STAFF TRAINING IS COMPLETED AS WELL.
EVERYTHING'S ENTERED CORRECTLY SO THAT WE CAN DO THE BEST BY THE ANIMALS.
CAN WE, BECAUSE THIS WAS, THIS WAS THE LAST HURDLE BEFORE WE ACTUALLY WENT AHEAD WITH THE ORDINANCE.
'CAUSE WE WANTED THIS TO FIND AS, AS I'M RECALLING.
SO NOW THE EDITS TO THE ORDINANCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LONG DONE AND WE'LL VOTE ON THAT.
SO THIS IS GONNA GO ON THE, UM, THE LEAGUE CITY, UH, WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE OTHER TNR STUFF.
LEAGUE CITY LISTENS, WHATEVER THEY HAD, THE WHOLE HISTORY OF TNR AND, AND HOW THEY WERE GONNA GET THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED IN, IN THIS UH, TNR BUSINESS.
SO IS THIS THEN PROCEDURE GONNA GO ON THAT FOR PUBLIC VISIBILITY? WE'LL PROBABLY RELEASE SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE LIKE THE POLICY.
THE POLICY WILL BE ON THAT MOST LIKELY.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN SOMETHING SIMILAR? SO WE MAY PROVIDE A CONDENSED VERSION.
SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE DIGESTIBLE RATHER THAN THE ENTIRE POLICY ITSELF.
THIS IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO READ THROUGH
JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT PLACE TO POINT THE COMMUNITY TO.
AND SO THAT WILL BE POSTED BEFORE THIS STARTS OR AT THE SAME TIME YOU SAID YOU'D LIKE TO START THIS IN A WEEK OR SO? YEAH, I MEAN WE STILL, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AND MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD.
WE'LL LET THEM KNOW THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SUPPORTS THIS, THIS, UM, POLICY AND THEY'RE READY TO REINSTATE AND THEN IT'LL GO ON THE PUBLIC WEBSITE.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO POINT TO IT, THAT'S ALL.
BEFORE WE START THE PROGRAM BACK UP, WE'LL PROVIDE SOMETHING.
SO BEFORE STARTS UP THIS PLAY TO THE PUBLIC.
SO MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING THEN YOU GUYS COULD SHOW US LIKE WHAT THE HANDOUTS ARE THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU WERE REFERENCING AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE RECEIVED THEM, BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY BRING EM ACCOUNT MEAN AND THEN WE HAVE THE NEW ONES.
JUST MAYBE YOU DO LIKE, HERE'S THE OR SOMETHING.
HERE IS WHERE WE'RE POSTING THIS.
THIS IS WHERE WE'RE SENDING PEOPLE.
AND WHAT I CAN DO IS SEND YOU THE GRAPHICS WE ALREADY HAVE WITH THE UPDATED EDITS TO THE POLICY.
AND NO PAPER COLLARS, RIGHT? NO.
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REMEMBER THE PAPER COLLARS WITH HEY, IF YOU OWN THIS CAT.NO, WE TALKED ABOUT PUTTING THE CAT OUT SINCE YOU WERE SENDING THE CAT OUT.
HEY, DO YOU KNOW THIS CAT? IS THIS YOUR CAT? LET US KNOW.
I THINK, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA START WITHOUT THE PAPER COLLARS TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
UM, AND IF WE FORESEE THE NEED TO INCORPORATE THE PAPER COLLARS, WE CAN LOOK INTO IT, BUT I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE AN ADDED STEP, UM, THAT WE'RE NOT QUITE READY TO TACKLE QUITE YET.
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WHAT IS THE NEXT MEETING DATE? ALWAYS THE SECOND WEDNESDAY.AND SO THAT AGENDA WILL BE THE BUDGET? MM-HMM?