* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:09] THE CLOCK ON THE WALL SAYS SIX O'CLOCK. SO WITH THAT SAID, I WILL, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE'LL HAVE A, UH, A, UH, ROLL CALL. MR. MILLIKEN. HERE. MR. DEFALCO. HERE. MS. KOSTI. KEEP PRESENT HERE. MR. MIKE HERE. MR. DAVID HERE. [1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS] AND MS. DIANE HERE. I STARTED GETTING FUMBLED ON THOSE, ON THOSE LAST NAMES. AND I AM HERE. SO WE DO, WE ARE SHOWING A QUORUM. UH, FIRST ORDER OF [2. PUBLIC COMMENT] BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENT, AND IT'S PARTICULARLY IMPORTANT, UH, TONIGHT THAT WE OPEN THIS UP. THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION, A LOT OF PRESS COMMENTS ABOUT IT. AND YOU KNOW, I WISH ALL EVER ALL OF Y'ALL HAD BEEN HERE FOR THE NINE MONTHS THAT WE'VE BEEN HERE BEATING THIS AROUND, ALTHOUGH THIS IS A NEW ONE THAT, UH, YOU PROBABLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. SO, WITH THAT SAID, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE MICROPHONE RIGHT HERE, AND, UM, MICHELLE WILL, YES. I'M GONNA, WOULD YOU GET A COPY? OKAY. MICHELLE WILL SHOW YOU HOW TO TURN ON THE MIC AND IT IS BEING RECORDED. SO IF WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT USING SWEARING LANGUAGE OR YOU CALL ANY OF US DOGS OR ANY OF THAT, JUST REMEMBER IT'LL LIVE ON FOREVER. SO, OKAY. UH, E YOU GAMBLE. WHO? SAM ML. THAT'S RIGHT. GAM. THAT'S RIGHT. SOUNDS JAM WITH THE G'S. GOOD EVENING. IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN TONIGHT. UM, WHO AM I ADDRESSING? IT'S NOT THE CITY COUNCIL. I KNOW. THIS IS THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE. WE WERE ALL APPOINTED, UH, OKAY. MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW THE CHARTER AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS BACK TO THEM. THANK YOU FOR INFORMING ME. YES. I'M SORRY. OKAY. I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO STAND CLOSER TO THE, TO THE MICROPHONE. I'D RATHER STAND RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YELL AND USE THE PEJORATIVES THAT YOU WERE MENTIONING BEFORE, BECAUSE SOME MATTER THAN I'LL GET OUT ABOUT PARTISANSHIP IN LEAGUE CITY. 'CAUSE THIS IS MY TOWN. AND WE SHOULDN'T BE PARTISAN BECAUSE IT'S UN-AMERICAN. AND DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH ATTEMPTS TO DISENFRANCHISE PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY? NOT IN MY TOWN. MY TOWN. IT'S AN EMBARRASSMENT TO ME RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THINGS LIKE BAN BOOKS AND BAN EDUCATION AND DISENFRANCHISED PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THIS, BECAUSE OF THIS. AND IT IS JUST FREAKING WRONG. AND IT'S NOT AMERICAN. THIS IS NOT WHY WE'RE HERE. IT'S NOT WHY THIS TALL TRANS WOMAN IS HERE. I'M HERE FOR ALL OF US. I'M HERE TO REPRESENT AMERICA. I'M A, I SIGNED UP TO PROTECT MY CONSTITUTION. NOT TO NOT SEND PEOPLE AWAY AND TELL THEM THAT THEY CAN'T VOTE BECAUSE WE HAVE PARTISAN, PARTISAN ELECTIONS. LIKE I THINK ONE PARTY CAN VOTE AND THE OTHER PARTY CAN, CAN THEN VOTE BECAUSE WE KNOW ALL KNOW WHO THE MAJORITY PARTY IS IN LAKE CITY. THAT'S NOT A SURPRISE, BUT IT'S NOT DIVERSE AND IT'S NOT AMERICA. AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY. AND, UM, AND YOU'RE WELCOME FOR ME NOT CUSSING 'CAUSE I SURE WANTED TO. WELL, THANK YOU. WELL SAID. OKAY. UH, HEIDI GORDON, I PICTURED YOU OF BEING ABOUT SEVEN FOOT TALL, BUT I GUESS NOT. RIGHT. I WAS OUT WALKING AROUND A LOT TODAY. SO I HAVE, UH, FLATS ON. UM, GOOD EVENING. UM, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I JUST HAVE COME TO SPEAK OUT AGAIN. OH, I'M HEIDI GORDON FROM NEWPORT AND LINK CITY. I'VE COME TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST THE, UM, PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY CHARTER TO MAKE OUR PARTISAN, UH, CITY ELECTIONS PARTISAN. UM, SEEMS LIKE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF COUNCIL HAVE DECIDED TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO, TO, FOR, TO, FOR WHAT END? MORE POWER GRAB OR TO MAKE NATIONAL POLITICS BICKERING RIGHT HERE AT THE CITY LEVEL IN OUR GROCERY STORES AND IN OUR, IN OUR, WHEN WE DROP OFF OUR KIDS TO DAYCARE. I MEAN, WHY DO WE NEED ALL THAT AT THIS LEVEL? I REALLY THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE BAD FOR OUR CITY. IT'S GONNA DIVIDE OUR CITY. UM, AND WE ALREADY FEEL WHEN THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL ARE PROMOTING PEOPLE AS THE MOST CONSERVATIVE, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE, IT ALREADY MAKES THE REST OF US FEEL THE RHINOS, THE MODERATES, THE INDEPENDENTS, AND EVEN THE LIBERALS. UM, IT MAKES US FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, KIDS TABLE AT THANKSGIVING. AND SO THIS WOULD JUST MAKE IT WORSE FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S NOT IN THE CAMP OF [00:05:01] THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PROPOSING THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GORDON. UH, OH. MARYANNE DELGADO. YOU WROTE THAT LIKE DELGADO, BUT IT'S DELGADO, RIGHT? DELGADO. OKAY. UM, MARYANNE DELGADO. OKAY. UM, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY I THOUGHT WOULD BE A REVELATION TO YOU, BUT APPARENTLY I'VE JUST FOUND OUT THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT, UM, WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING FOR KATHERINE SWANSON, I WAS IN FRONT OF THE, UH, CIVIC CENTER AND PEOPLE WOULD COME UP TO ME AND SAY, WHO IS THE DEMOCRAT? AND I SAID, THIS IS A NON-PARTISAN ELECTION. AND THEY SAID, OH, NO. THE MAYOR SAID, DON'T VOTE FOR THE THE DEMOCRAT. DON'T VOTE FOR THE DEMOCRAT. AND I SAID, WELL, IT'S NON-PARTISAN. AND THEY SAID, I WANNA KNOW WHO THE RE REPUBLICAN IS, WHO THE CONSERVATIVE IS. AND I, YOU KNOW, I JUST SAID, CATHERINE SWANSON IS VERY OPEN TO BOTH SIDES. THAT'S ALL I SAID. BUT THEY WERE INSISTENT UPON FINDING OUT WHO THE DEMOCRAT WAS, WHO THE REPUBLICAN WAS, BECAUSE THE MAYOR NOT YELLING AT YOU BECAUSE THE MAYOR CALLED THEM, OR SENT, I FOUND OUT, SENT A TEXT TO THEM. SO THAT LAST ELECTION ACTUALLY PROBABLY SHOULD BE REDONE. I MEAN, NOW THIS CAN OF WORMS HAS BEEN OPEN, AND THIS WAS ALREADY A PARTISAN ELECTION. AND THE MAYOR PROBABLY WAS AGAINST SOMETHING IN THE CHARTER THAT SAYS THE MAYOR CANNOT DO THAT. HE DID THAT. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S GETTING AWAY WITH IT AND WHY THAT ELECTION, THE LAST ELECTION IS NOT GOING TO BE REDONE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU. CATHERINE SWANSON. HELLO, I'M CATHERINE SWANSON. I LIVE AT RUSTING WIND LANE HERE IN LAKE CITY. UM, SO I'M COMING OUT TO SPEAK BECAUSE YES, I DID RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL. NO, I'M NOT ON CITY COUNCIL, AND THAT'S FINE WITH ME. AND ONE OF THE COMMON QUESTIONS THAT I GOT ASKED IS, WELL, ARE YOU DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN? AND I POLITELY WOULD LET THEM KNOW THAT THIS IS NON-PARTISAN, BECAUSE THAT SHOULD NOT MATTER. BECAUSE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT, ARE WE VOTING ON ISSUES THAT ARE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT ISSUES? NO. WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON SIDEWALKS. WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON FLOOD MITIGATION. WE SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON BRINGING IN SUBSTANTIAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE ACTUALLY GONNA PROVIDE JOBS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. THAT IS NOT A ISSUE. THAT COMES DOWN TO IF YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN, IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT. SO HONESTLY, I THINK THIS IS ABSURD THAT THIS IS EVEN BEING PROPOSED TO SEE THAT WE CAN HAVE THIS LITTLE, ARE YOU A D ARE YOU AN R, ARE YOU AN INDEPENDENT? OR WHATEVER ELSE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY. THIS IS CITY COUNCIL. IT'S LOCAL POLITICS. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON ABORTION RIGHTS GUN LAWS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE VOTING ON ANY OF THOSE THINGS. SO WE NEED TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE. WE ALREADY SEE HOW THAT IS AFFECTING HOW PEOPLE TREAT ONE ANOTHER NATIONALLY. DO WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP CREATING MORE ISSUES WITHIN LEAGUE CITY? DOES LEAGUE CITY REALLY WANT TO KEEP BEING IN THE NEWS? BECAUSE HONESTLY, IT'S EMBARRASSING THAT WE MAKE THE NEWS NATIONALLY WITH THE LIBRARY THING. THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER ISSUE. BUT WE MAKE NATIONAL NEWS FOR THAT. PEOPLE IN OTHER STATES KNOW ABOUT US BECAUSE OF IT. DO WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP ADDING TO THAT? DO WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP PUTTING THE LEAGUE CITY'S NAME IN A BAD LIGHT? I DON'T LIVE HERE TO LIVE IN THIS BAD LIGHT. I'M NOT RAISING MY CHILD HERE BECAUSE I WANNA LIVE IN A BAD LIGHT. I'M RAISING MY CHILD HERE BECAUSE I LIKE THE COMMUNITY FEELING. I LIKE THAT IT'S FAMILY FRIENDLY. I LIKE THAT OUR CITY, OUR WONDERFUL STAFF MEMBERS ARE PLANNING THINGS FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR FAMILIES, SO THAT YOU HAVE THINGS TO GO DO. CAN WE PLEASE KEEP THIS PARTISAN STUFF OUT OF IT? IT IS NOT NECESSARY. AND IT'S TROUBLESOME THAT THIS IS BEING BROUGHT UP. AND IT'S EVEN MORE SO TROUBLESOME THAT THE NEWEST COUNCIL MEMBER WHO GOT ELECTED IS THE ONE THAT'S BRINGING THIS FORTH. WHEN PEOPLE, WHEN I WAS AT THE POLLS, PEOPLE WOULD ASK ME, THEY'D GO, SO WHO'S THAT WOMAN THAT THE MAYOR SAID TO GO VOTE FOR? AND I WAS LIKE, OH, OBVIOUSLY YOU DIDN'T DO YOUR RESEARCH BECAUSE COURTNEY IS A MAN AS FAR AS WE KNOW, HE IDENTIFIES AS, MAN, I DON'T WANNA MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, BUT PEOPLE WERE JUST FOLLOWING WHAT THE MAYOR SENT OUT. IT WAS A GRAPHIC THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO WIN A SEAT ON CITY COUNCIL OR KEEP THE WOKE LIBERAL AGENDA OUT OF LEAGUE CITY. AND THE MAYOR PAID POLITICAL FUNDS FROM HIS CAMPAIGN IN ORDER TO SEND THAT OUT BECAUSE HE WAS SO TERRIFIED OF LIBERALS AND THE DEMOCRATS. THAT'S UNNECESSARY. WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT. AND PEOPLE WERE COMING AND SHOWING UP AT THE POLLS. I MEAN, IT WAS EFFECTIVE, BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT COURTNEY WAS A MAN. DO WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP ENCOURAGING THIS? THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, LEMME SEE. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON MY LIST? NO. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS? [00:10:01] I'LL SAY SO YEAH, TOM, GO AHEAD. THIS IS COUNCILMAN, UH, TOM CRUISE. HE'S PROBABLY AS SURPRISED AS ANYBODY THAT THAT'S TRUE. UH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK PAT. UH, REALLY NOT A WHOLE LOT TO SAY. I WAS SURPRISED WHEN THIS CAME UP. I TOO THINK THAT IF WE MAKE THIS A PARTISAN RACE, IT'S ONLY GONNA MAKE THINGS WORSE. I, I'M A REPUBLICAN. I'M PROUD TO BE A REPUBLICAN. I HAD THE REPUBLICAN ENDORSEMENT WHEN I RAN. I THINK THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. PEOPLE, UH, WHETHER IT'S IMPORTANT OR NOT, PEOPLE DO ACTUALLY STOP AND ASK. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T HIDE BEHIND. BUT IF WE COME OUT AND WE SAY THIS IS GOING TO BE A PARTISAN RACE, WE KIND OF PULL AWAY FROM THE GUY, THE EVERYDAY GUY THAT WE WANT TO HAVE UP MAKING THOSE DECISIONS. WHAT ABOUT THE GUY THAT'S JUST SO FRUSTRATED OVER A POTHOLE THAT HE'S NOT GETTING ANY, UH, HE'S NOT GETTING ANY TRACTION WITH IT. SO HE SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL. I'M GONNA MAKE THIS BETTER. IF HE'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IF HE'S NOT THIS MUCH A REPUBLICAN OR HE IS, HE'S NOT GONNA GET A BACKING WAY, NOT COME IN. IT REALLY SHOULDN'T MATTER THE BASIS THAT WE DO AT CITY COUNCIL. WELL, WE SHOULD HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT. WE SHOULD FUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PASS A BUDGET, KEEP THE SIDEWALKS FIXED, GET THE STREETS GOING, PLAN FOR OUR GROWTH OR TRAFFIC. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS TO DO, BUT NONE OF IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU'RE A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT. IT JUST DEPENDS ON IF YOU'RE A CARING CITIZEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU TOM. UH, TOMMY, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? YOU? YOU DON'T. OKAY. UM, I'M GONNA DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE AGENDA, JUST SIMPLY 'CAUSE I LIKE TO TALK. BUT, UM, I'M GONNA MAKE SOME COMMENTS AND I'M GONNA OPEN IT TO THE REST OF YOU TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS. I'LL TRY TO BE AS BRIEF AS I CAN, BUT I AM IRISH AND POINT, I DON'T POINT ABOUT, UH, CHAIRMAN, UH, POLICY POINT OF ORDER. IS THIS ABOUT THE, THE SAME, SAME ISSUE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA? YES. UH, CAN WE WAIT TILL THEN? WHICH IS, BUT WE'RE THERE. NO, WE'RE NOT. NO, WE'RE NOT. OH, WE DID. OH, APPROVAL OF MINUTES. [3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR FEBRUARY 22, 2024] I'M SORRY. MY GOD. YOU CALL, YOU THINK I I REMEMBER THAT. ALL RIGHT. HAS ANYBODY SEEN THE MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND MOTIONS BE MADE AND SECONDED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY CORRECTIONS? ADDITIONS? DELETIONS. OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, APPROVING THE MINUTES? JUST RAISE A LITTLE OLD PAUSE AND WE'LL GET ON DOWN THE ROAD. OKAY, NOW I'M ON TO, UH, [4. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION REGARDING:] TALK DISCUSSION AND ACTION ITEMS. THERE ARE TWO OF THEM, THE BOND ELECTION, BALLOT LANGUAGE, AND THE PARTISAN ELECTIONS. IF I CAN JUST SORT OF SUMMARIZE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT SOME OF YOU SAID. I MIGHT SAY A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS THE BREEDING GROUND OF PUBLIC INTEREST. IT IS WHERE PEOPLE GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE THEIR GOVERNMENT. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S A POTHOLE OR THEIR DESIRE TO HAVE A PARK OR THEIR DRAINAGE ISN'T GOOD. UH, THE COP TALKED TO 'EM WRONG WHEN HE GAVE 'EM A TICKET. WHATEVER IT IS. THAT'S WHAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S PRIMARY PURPOSE IS, IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. WHEN THIS CAME UP, UH, MICHELLE CALLED ME ON A SUNDAY MORNING TO TELL ME IT WAS COMING. THAT SHE'D HAD SOME COUNCIL MEMBER OR A COUNCIL MEMBER OR WHATEVER IT WAS WHO WANTED TO DO THIS. MY FIRST REACTION. AND I SENT 'EM ALL. I THINK I SENT ALL OF YOU NOTES. SO WHICH ONE OF YOU BONE HEADS CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA? BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED, THEN ENCOURAGE 'EM TO BE INVOLVED. GOVERNMENT WORKS. ITS VEST WHEN ITS PEOPLE ARE MOST INVOLVED, UH, DON'T, DON'T MAKE IT A PARTISAN DEAL BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE RUN ON PARTISAN ISSUES. AND WHOEVER, WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU SAID IT, WE DON'T DEAL WITH ABORTION. WE DON'T DEAL WITH, UH, MAJOR, UH, DEAL. THE BORDER ISSUES. THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT OR ANYTHING ELSE. WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS, OF COURSE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL IS NOT THE PLACE TO AIR ALL THOSE CONCERNS. I ALWAYS SAID GOVERNMENT'S FUNCTION WAS, WAS TO SERVE ITS PEOPLE. WELL, YOU CAN'T SERVE THEM IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT. YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO GO OUT AND [00:15:01] TALK TO 'EM, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS AND THAT. AND TO FIND A REASON. AND I'VE SAID THIS TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS AS THIS CAME UP, DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH TO ARGUE ABOUT? I MEAN, REALLY AND TRULY, WE HAVE ENOUGH TO ARGUE IS THE COUNTRY, DOES NOBODY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS COUNTRY IS SO SPLIT UP BECAUSE OF THE PARTISANSHIP THAT WE CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE? DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S IN CONGRESS OR, OR THE STATE LEGISLATURE. IT DOESN'T MATTER. I UNDERSTAND THE GREAT DESIRE TO WIN AND IT IT'S INHERENT IN THE POLITICAL PROCESS. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE RUN AGAINST ONE ANOTHER. HELL, THEY DON'T SPEAK TO EACH OTHER FOR YEARS WHEN IT'S OVER BECAUSE THEY HATE EACH OTHER. AND I'M ALWAYS REMINDED, AND MISS COSTI WILL TELL YOU, AS LONG AS SHE'S KNOWN ME, I'VE ALWAYS SAID, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO HATE EACH OTHER OVER IT. THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS TO LOOK AT THINGS. I, THIS DID NOT GAIN ANY SUPPORT FROM ME. UH, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S, UH, COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO THE GOOD OF THIS CITY. WE DON'T NEED TO BE WARRING AMONGST PARTIES HERE. IT'S ALREADY BAD ENOUGH. I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS TOWN FOR A LONG TIME. I REMEMBER WHEN DEMOCRATS OWNED THIS TOWN AND THEY DID, UH, BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND, AND, UH, THROUGH MOST OF THE EIGHTIES. AND THE TRUTH IS, I NEVER HEARD. THERE WAS SOMETHING IN THE PAPER THE OTHER DAY THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE TRIED TO DO THIS BEFORE AND I'VE NEVER SEEN IT. I WAS PRETTY INVOLVED, WHETHER IT WAS HERE IN THE LEGISLATURE. UH, AND I DON'T EVER REMEMBER IT COMING UP AS A PARTISAN ISSUE. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY MUST KNOW SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW. UH, I TALKED TO THE CITY SECRETARY'S OFFICE WHEN ALL THIS CAME OUT AND SHE SAID, WELL, WE WERE ASKED TO RESEARCH THIS TO FIND OUT HOW MANY CITIES IN TEXAS WERE DOING THIS. AND SHE SAID, WE COULDN'T FIND ONE, NOT ONE. NOW I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE SEE CITY POLITICS AS, AS NON-PARTISAN, PARTISAN PARTIES PLAY A PART IN CITY POLITICS BECAUSE EVERYBODY RUNS TO 'EM. THEY RAN TO THE DEMOCRATS WHEN THEY WERE IN CHARGE AND THEY'RE RUNNING TO THE REPUBLICANS NOW 'CAUSE THEY'RE IN CHARGE. BUT I THINK TO INSTITUTIONALIZE IT IS SHORTSIGHTED BECAUSE THE PENDULUM SWINGS BACK AND FORTH. AND TO KEEP THIS OUT OF, UH, OUT OF THE POLITICAL REALM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IS AN ADMIRABLE THING FOR ALL OF US TO DO. UM, THAT'S MY TAKE ON IT. UH, ONCE EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK, I'M SURE I'LL HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY. BUT, UH, MIKE, AS THE VICE CHAIR, YOU GET TO PONTIFICATE IF YOU LIKE. NO, THAT, I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, I RESPECTFULLY, THANK YOU. UH, I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY COMMENTS. UH, I, I THINK FROM THE AGENDA, UH, THE FIRST TOPIC IS THE BOND ELECTION. MM-HMM. , UH, LANGUAGE FOUR A. IF, UH, IF WE WANNA START THERE, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T MIND SKIPPING TO FOUR B, BUT IF WE WANNA START WITH FOUR A AND THEN I'LL, I'LL RESERVE MY COMMENTS. WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE, TO THE LIST FOR THE, FOR THE, I WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A CHANCE, SINCE THIS HAS HAD A LOT OF PRESS PLAY AND, OKAY. UH, WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE HERE. DAVE, ANYTHING YOU WANNA SAY? UM, OPENING? ARE WE GOING BY THE AGENDA? ARE WE'RE GOING TO DO FOUR A THEN? FOUR B? WE WILL, YES. OKAY. I'LL, I'LL LIKE TO. OKAY. UH, MS. KOSTI, I HAVE AN AGREEMENT. I WILL WAIT, UH, FOR MY COMMENT, JOE. YEAH. I'LL WAIT TO FOUR B. OH GOD. AM I THE ONLY ONE WITH A LONG WINDED? WELL, WELL, WE, WE, WE COULD HAVE CHA CHANGED IT. I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT, BUT LARRY, I MEAN, IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. YOU WANNA, IT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. YOU KNOW ME, I'M ALWAYS IN A HURRY. MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO CONSIDER FOUR B BEFORE FOUR A SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION'S BEEN MADE TO SUSPEND THE RULES. START WITH FOUR B, UH, AND THEN GO TO FOUR A. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE, ON THE MOTION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? LOOKS LIKE IT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE. OKAY. GOOD. LET'S TALK ABOUT FOUR B. OKAY. I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START. UM, JUST BECAUSE DAVE WANTED TO GET OUTTA HERE AT SIX 15, I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS TOO. UH, A SHORT LEVEL. I LISTEN, I, I CAN'T ADD ANYTHING MORE THAN WHAT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY TONIGHT. UM, I FEEL THE SAME WAY. EVERYBODY ELSE HAS BEEN, UH, SO ELOQUENTLY DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING MORE THAN I THAT I CAN ADD THAT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, ADD ANYTHING MORE [00:20:01] THAN THAN EVERYBODY ELSE HAS ALREADY SAID. SO, SO, I, I TOTALLY AGREE. OKAY, MS. KOSTI, I JUST HAD, UH, TWO COMMENTS. UH, QUICK. UH, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS, HOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP. UH, WE'VE BEEN MEETING NINE MONTHS AND OUR FIRST SEVERAL MEETINGS, WE WERE, UH, WE, WE HAD ASKED SEVERAL TIMES WHETHER THE COUNCIL CAN'T HEAR. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? OKAY, I'LL START AGAIN. WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR NINE MONTHS, AND THE FIRST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, THIS IS NOT MY FIRST CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE TO HAVE THE PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON, BUT WE ASKED SPECIFICALLY, DID COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT ANY INVOLVEMENT? DID THEY WANNA HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? DID THEY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS? SO FOR MY NINE MONTHS, WE HEARD NOTHING. AND IN THE 13TH HOUR OF OUR LAST MEETING, WE GET THE EMAIL. AND I DON'T NEED TO REHASH WHAT, UH, THE CHAIR HAS SAID. WE FOUND OUT ABOUT THE, UH, THE, UH, ADDITION ABOUT THE PARTISAN POLITICS. THAT THAT'S MY FIRST CONCERN OF HOW IT WAS PRESENTED. AND MY SECOND CONCERN WAS AFTER IT WAS PRESENTED, UH, I PERSONALLY, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, WANTED TO KNOW WHO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THE MEDIA WANTED TO KNOW WHO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA. THE CITY SECRETARY WAS CON CONTACTED WITH THAT INFORMATION, AND IT WAS CRICKETS. SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY, WHY WE, WE, WE GOT THE AGENDA ITEM, BUT WE WEREN'T PRIVILEGED TO KNOW WHO DID UNTIL WE, I READ THE PAPER TODAY, WE FOUND OUT WHICH COUNCIL MEMBER HAD DONE THAT. SO I, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM AND I WANTED TO BRING IT TO LIGHT, AND I WANT THE RECORD TO REFLECT MY COMMENTS. 'CAUSE I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS, UH, I THINK MY COMMENTS, I DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE. UH, I THINK I SUM IT UP REAL CLEAR HOW IT WAS DONE AND WHY WE WEREN'T TOLD, AND WHY WE HAD TO REPEATEDLY ASK WHO PUT IT ON THERE AND THEN FIND OUT TODAY WHY HE ISN'T HERE. OKAY, MR. JOHNSON, HE'S NOT HERE. UM, DAVE, THE MICROPHONE'S MOVES TO YOUR MOUTH. . . OKAY. UM, I TOO, UH, AGREE WITH, UH, A LOT OF WHAT'S BEEN SAID. UH, YES SIR. I DID SOME REFLECTING. UM, WHY DID WE COME TO LEAGUE CITY? CAME TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT, THAT WE FELT SAFE, THAT HAD A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, HAD GOOD EDUCATION, HAD PEOPLE THAT TREATED EACH OTHER RIGHT. HAD A SENSE OF PEACE. I VALUE THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. SO WHAT IS IT? IS IT IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, IT COULD BE A WHOLE SUBDIVISION. IT COULD BE HALF A TOWN. LO AND BEHOLD, IT IS THE BLOCK THAT YOU LIVE ON, YOUR NEIGHBORS UP AND DOWN THE STREET. WE WANT TO BUILD THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY. PEOPLE DON'T COME HERE TO LIVE, TO BE INVOLVED AND LISTEN TO CONSTANT BICKERING AND ARGUING. ESPECIALLY, UH, JUST FOR ARGUING SAKE. I KNOW THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT GET OFF ON THAT. I PERSONALLY DON'T. UM, I THINK PEOPLE GENERALLY EXPECT THAT. UM, AND I'LL SAY THIS FOR OUR FAMILY, UH, NUMBER ONE, PURPOSE OF GOVERNMENT IS, UH, SAFETY AND PROTECTION. THERE IS NO NUMBER TWO PRIORITY. THERE IS A ONE, NUMBER, ONE PRIORITY. AND YOU DON'T GET ANY FURTHER THAN UNTIL YOU'VE TAKEN CARE OF THAT. SO, LIKE WHAT LEAGUE CITY'S DOING, AS IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE START. THIS IS WHERE PEOPLE GET INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITY. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU'RE RED OR BLUE OR INDEPENDENT OR ANYTHING. IT'S, YOU WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMUNITY. AND I'LL TELL YOU PERSONALLY, I SPENT A LOT OF TIME OUT IN THE COMMUNITY JUST LOOKING AT OUR PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY THE DRAINAGE AND THE, AND THE TRAFFIC AND CONSTRUCTION. UM, HAD MY WIFE DRIVE ME AROUND TAKING, I TAKE PICTURES AND I'M LOOKING AND I'M BRINGING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEES. UH, I GOT INVOLVED TO DO THAT KIND OF STUFF, NOT SIT AND BICKER. UM, SO I THINK THAT, UH, FOR MY, FOR MY, UH, UH, THOUGHTS ON THIS, UM, I, I WOULD CHOOSE TO KEEP THINGS LIKE THEY ARE. 'CAUSE I AM INTERESTED. IF YOU ARE RUNNING OR YOU GET ELECTED, UM, WHAT ARE YOU FOCUSING ON? ARE YOU MAKING WISE DECISIONS USING RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE? UH, THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN RIGHT HERE IN LEAGUE CITY. UH, DO YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS, [00:25:01] BOTH SEEN AND UNSEEN? THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT STRIKE ME AS BEING IMPORTANT. AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE LIVING HERE. THAT'S THE LEVEL I WANNA BE AT. AND THEREFORE, UM, I LIKE TO KEEP THINGS THE SAME AND NOT GET OFF INTO THIS NEW AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DAVID. UH, MR. DEFALCO. HELLO. I THINK THIS ISSUE MEANS TO MORE TO ME THAN JUST ABOUT ANYONE ELSE IN THIS ROOM. UM, THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME I'VE BEEN ON CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR LEAGUE CITY. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IN A PRIOR COMMITTEE VERSION WAS TO MOVE LEAGUE CITY ELECTIONS FROM MAY TO NOVEMBER TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE COME AND VOTE TO FACILITATE THAT, RIGHT? RATHER THAN HAVING TWO DIFFERENT DATES, WHICH ONE DO I GO TO? WHO, WHICH ONE IS FOR WHAT? AND SO WE MADE IT NOVEMBER, WHICH HAS VASTLY INCREASED THE VOTER TURNOUT. THE IDEA WAS TO BRING MORE PEOPLE IN TO LEAGUE CITY GOVERNANCE, NOT TO EXCLUDE THEM. BOTH MAJOR POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE BECOME MORE EXCLUSIONARY SINCE I WAS FIRST ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE TO VOTE A LONG TIME AGO. UM, BACK THEN, THE VAST AMERICAN MIDDLE, MOST OF IT WAS WELCOMED IN ONE OR THE OTHER. NOW THEY'RE NOT. SO THIS, THIS IDEA TO MAKE LEAGUE CITY ELECTIONS BLATANTLY PARTISAN IS EXCLUSIONARY, WHICH IS NOT WHY I'M HERE. NOT WHY I HAVE INVOLVED WITH LEAGUE CITY GOVERNMENT FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS. NOW, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, LEAGUE CITY COUNCIL IS PARTISAN ANYWAY. NO, NOT REALLY. UNDER THE SURFACE, IT MIGHT BE PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GOING TO GROUP TOGETHER IN VARIOUS FORMS HERE IN LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS, UNITED STATES, ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT HAPPENS. BUT IF YOU MAKE THE ELECTIONS PARTISAN, EVERY LEAGUE CITY COUNCIL VOTE GONNA BECOME PARTISAN. WHAT WAS UNDER THE SURFACE WAS NOT GONNA BOIL OVER AN INCREASINGLY ACRIMONIOUS DEBATE FOR EVERY MEETING. ALSO, LOOK, LOOK, LOOK AT THE PEOPLE HERE. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF WE'RE DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN, LIBERTARIAN, GREEN, NEITHER. NO. DO, DO YOU REALLY CARE? I DON'T CARE IF, IF WE MAKE LEAGUE CITY ELECTIONS PARTISAN, NOW WE'RE PEOPLE LIKE US ARE GONNA BECOME POLITICAL APPOINTEES. THIS ISN'T, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SIGNED UP FOR. WHEN, WHEN I VOLUNTEERED FOUR TIMES SINCE THE MIDDLE TWO THOUSANDS. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE WHO WERE THERE BACK THEN. AND THEIR EXPERIENCE AND INSIGHT IS EXTREMELY VALUABLE. I HOPE MINE IS TOO. THANK YOU. OKAY, MS. LAWLESS, WELL, CAN HEAR ME. FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY SADDENED THAT THIS WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IN LEAGUE CITY. WE DON'T NEED, WE DON'T NEED IT. AND I TOTALLY, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU CAN'T HEAR ME. IS YOUR MIC ON? MM-HMM. . UM, SO IT WON'T GET ANY SUPPORT FOR ME, AND I DON'T WANT LEAGUE CITY TO BE THE FIRST CITY TO BECOME PARTISAN IN THEIR ELECTIONS. SO FOR ME, IT'S JUST A, NO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. MILLIKEN. JUST TALK INTO YOUR MIC. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, WELL, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE MR. JOHNSON ANY LATER THAN HE HAS ALREADY FOR HIS APPOINTMENT. BUT AT ANY RATE, LET ME SAY IS THAT, UH, THE ONE THING THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP THAT IS SENSITIVE TO ME IS THE COST OF THE ELECTION ITSELF. IS THAT WHAT MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AND I SAY THE AVERAGE CITIZEN DON'T UNDERSTAND, IS HOW MUCH ELECTIONS COST. AND WHEN YOU START ADDING INTO PARTISAN POLITICS, AND THAT'S GONNA BE PRIMARIES AND PRIMARY RUNOFFS. AND ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAD ALREADY GIVEN, UM, TWO HOLDING ELECTIONS WAS REQUESTED BY COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY WERE INQUISITIVE ABOUT IF THEY COULD JUST APPOINT SOMEBODY INSTEAD OF HAVING AN ELECTION, UH, WHEN A VACANCY OCCURS. UM, AND WE DEBATED THAT TOPIC FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, BUT THE REAL DECIDING FACTOR FOR ME [00:30:01] IN THAT WAS THE FACT THAT AN ELECTION COST ABOUT $140,000 NOW. SO THAT WHEN YOU START ADDING IN PARTISAN POLITICS INTO LEAGUE CITY GOVERNMENT, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. AND IF THEY TOTAL 140,000 A PIECE, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THAT MONEY GONNA COME FROM? YOU KNOW, I, I, I CAN'T ECHO WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID ABOUT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND, AND UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THE TOPICS THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNED IN CITY GOVERNMENT, UM, IS, IS THAT I, TO ME, IT'S A FOREGONE CONCLUSION. THE REASON WHY WE'VE HAD NON-PARTISAN CITY POLITICS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS FOR AS LONG AS WE HAD, IS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT REALLY HAS NO PLACE IN THIS LOWER LEVEL GOVERNMENT IS THAT IT'S AN ADDED COST. UM, AND ALL THAT DOES IS, IS SEPARATE PEOPLE. AND, AND, UM, AS FAR AS WHEN I RAN FOR, FOR CITY COUNCIL, UH, PEOPLE ASKED ME IF I WAS A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT, AND THEY JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHO WAS REPUBLICAN AND WHO WAS RUNNING. BUT IN THE PARTICULAR RACES, THE FIRST TIME I RAN, EVERYBODY WAS A REPUBLICAN EXCEPT FOR ONE. AND THAT PERSON WAS A LIBERTARIAN. NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, LET ME SAY, THERE WASN'T ANY DEMOCRATS, BUT TO ME, I, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AROUND AND UNDERSTAND PEOPLE AND WHAT, WHAT CITY COUNCIL FACES IS THAT IT'S, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PARTISAN POLITICS AND HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH, WITH RUNNING COMMUNITY LIKE THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, LET ME, UH, I'D LIKE TO BRING THINGS TO A CLOSE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE PASS ON THIS ISSUE, SHIP IT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL. AND AS I SAY THAT, LET ME MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR. YOUR JOB OUT THERE IS NOT OVER. CITY COUNCIL HAS EVERY AUTHORITY TO PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT. THEY DON'T NEED US. WE ARE NOT THE END RESULT. IF WE PASS THIS, WHAT WE IN ESSENCE ARE DOING IS SAYING, CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A DECISION. WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ON THIS ISSUE. AND, YOU KNOW, TRUTH IS, IF YOU WANT TO BRING IT UP AND FIGHT IT, UH, FIGHT IT OUT AMONGST YOURSELVES AND TAKE THE BACKLASH OF CRITICISM THAT WILL COME FROM IT, THEN THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S OUR PLACE TO DO IT. UH, I THINK WE GOT GOT HIT WITH THIS AND A VERY UNFAIR WAY. UH, THIS IS A GOOD BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED NINE MONTHS TO DO WHAT WE DID. AND TO THROW THIS, WE, WE THOUGHT A MONTH AGO, IT WAS OUR LAST MEETING, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS SHOWS UP ON THE DOORSTEP. WE'RE GOING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KIND OF TIRED OF COMING DOWN HERE EVERY WEEK OR EVERY OTHER WEEK, OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY THREW IT AT US, AND I THINK WE HAD TO THROW IT BACK AT 'EM. NOW, NO DISRESPECT TO THEM. AND THE FELLOW WHO, WHO SUGGESTED THIS WAS BRAND NEW TO THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT'S FINE. YOU KNOW, BEST WAY TO LEARN IS, UH, IN THE FLAMES OF THE FIRE. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW. YOU KNOW, I SAID TO MICHELLE THE OTHER DAY, I MEAN, IF THEY WANT IT OFF THE AGENDA, THEY OUGHT TO TELL US THAT. SO I THINK WE, WE NEED TO GIVE 'EM AN ANSWER. THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SAY WE'RE PASSING ON THIS ISSUE. UH, WE WE'RE GONNA STILL TALK ABOUT THE ONE ABOUT THE BOND ISSUES, BUT, BUT ON THIS PARTISAN POLITICS DEAL, UH, I WOULD JUST ASSUME THEY TAKE THE HEAT FOR WHATEVER COMES OUT, AND ALL THESE FOLKS AND FOLKS IN THE BACK CAN GO TO THE MEETING AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE THINK. MR. UH, MR. CHAIR I SECOND. IS THAT A, THAT IS A MOTION. THAT IS A MOTION, YES. I SECOND THE MOTION. ALL RIGHT. MOTION'S BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE GET ON TO VOTING, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COMMENT ON IT? YEAH. YES. UM, ARE, ARE YOU WILLING TO AMEND YOUR MOTION THAT WE EXPLICITLY SAY TO CITY COUNCIL, WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. RATHER THAN JUST SAYING SOME COURAGE, I AMEND MY, I AMEND MY SECOND. WELL, I MEAN, HE, I KNOW YOU, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I'M NOT LOOKING TO MAKE A WAR WITH THE CITY COUNCIL EITHER. AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ALL OF THEM PARTICIPATED ON SENDING THIS DOWN TO US LIKE A SPITBALL. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CAREFUL IN MY WORDS. [00:35:03] OKAY. OKAY. THEN, THEN, THEN, UH, I, I MOVE TO, I MOVE TO AMEND THE MOTION. OKAY. TO EXPLICITLY TELL CITY COUNCIL THAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. OKAY. WELL, UH, CAN WE, BEFORE, BEFORE TAKING THAT UP, CAN I FINISH OKAY. TALKING ON THE OTHER ONE. UH, SO, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD TREAT THIS LIKE ANY OTHER SUBJECT THAT WE'VE BEEN TREATING, UH, ALL ALONG. AND, AND WE'VE HAD MANY, UM, MANY DIFFERENT ITEMS COME BEFORE THIS GROUP. AND WE CHOSE EITHER TO SAY, YES, SIR, WE DON'T REC, WE RECOMMEND NOT CHANGING IT, OR WE RECOMMEND CHANGING IT. AND, AND IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, I THINK WE SHOULD TREAT IT THE SAME, WHICH IS, I RECOMMEND THAT NOTHING CHANGES WITH THE WAY THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN. UH, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DEBATED THIS SUBJECT. AND OUR RECOMMENDATION AS A GROUP IS WE DON'T WANT THE CHARTER TO CHANGE. SO I THAT, OKAY, SO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT. NOW MAKE YOUR AMENDMENT, WE'RE TALKING SEMANTICS. WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. SOUNDS LIKE IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME THING. QUITE THE SAME. RIGHT THERE, THERE, THERE'S A DISTINCTION. YOU'RE SAYING DON'T CHANGE IT TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ISSUE. DON'T CHANGE THE CHARTER, WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE DONE BEFORE. UM, I GUESS, I GUESS WE COULD DO THAT, BUT TO ME THAT'S NOT FORCEFUL ENOUGH, NOT EXPLICIT ENOUGH. SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO BE VERY BLUNT AND DIRECT. AND THIS IS, THIS IS ONE THAT GOES BEYOND ANY OTHER ISSUE THAT I'VE BEEN ON AND FOR CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEES. SO I'LL, I, I, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE MOTION TO EXPLICITLY TELL CITY COUNCIL THAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. ALRIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT AMENDMENT? SECOND. YOU SHOULD DIANE. DIANE, SECOND. IT IS THAT, THAT, THAT'S FINE. I JUST, OKAY. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ACTION WAS ON THE AGENDA. AND, AND IF THE ACTION WAS TO TAKE UP THIS TOPIC AS A CHANGE TO THE AGENDA, THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO. IS THAT OUR RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT A, THAT OUR ACTION WAS TO NOT, TO NOT AGREE WITH THIS CHANGE. THAT WE DON'T AGREE WITH THIS CHANGE. I THINK WE'RE ALL SAYING THE SAME THING. SO YEAH, I'LL JUST SHUT UP AND I'LL VOTE. GO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO AMEND. YES. YEAH. UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT CHUCK'S SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT I'M MORE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT MIKE SAID IS THAT WE SHOULD TREAT IT LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE DONE. AND, UM, JUST TAKE NO ACTION. BECAUSE THAT'S THE WAY THAT WE'VE HANDLED EVERYTHING IN THIS CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE SO FAR, IS THAT WE HAVE DECLINED TO TAKE ACTION, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A TOPIC THAT WE DEBATED FOR MULTIPLE MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, SO THAT NO ACTION, I THINK IS WHAT SHOULD BE APPROPRIATE RATHER THAN SENDING THE MESSAGE. BECAUSE I THINK IT'S MORE OF THE CITIZENS TO SEND THE MESSAGE RATHER THAN US. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE. I JUST USED THE WORD PASS. I UNDERSTAND. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING JUST THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION. OKAY. GOOD. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION ON THE AMENDED MOTION? NO. SO WHO, WHO SECONDED? CHUCK'S. OH, OKAY. I'M TOTALLY AGREEMENT WITH CHUCK. WHAT? CHUCK HAD. CHUCK WANTS TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT, THAT WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. I SUPPORT THAT. NO, WE'RE NOT. WELL, WE CAN ALL, WE CAN ALL VOTE. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WAY THIS IS DONE. ALL RIGHT, WE TAKE THE VOTE, CALL THE VOTE, NO OTHER COMMENTS. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CHUCK'S MOTION, PERIOD. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. 1, 2, 3. THOSE THAT MIGHT WANNA SEE IT A DIFFERENT WAY. , RAISE YOUR HAND. I JUST DON'T WANT TO GO BOARD. THAT'S 1, 2, 3, 4. YOU KNOW, THE FOURS HAVE IT. I, I THINK WE MAKE, BY NOT SAYING ANYTHING, WE MAKE THE POINT. I THINK SO LEMME TELL YOU. THEY, I I, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MOTION IS MADE THAT WE PASS ON CHANGING THE CHARTER ON THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. UM, JUST SO [00:40:01] THAT WE HAVE IT IN THE RECORD, THAT WE HAVE IT DEBATED IT AND NOW IT'S A FINAL VOTE THAT WE RECOMMEND NO ACTION ON THIS CHANGE. MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT. I DID, I DID. THAT'S WHAT I JUST DID. I SECOND IT. ALRIGHT. MOTION'S MADE AND SECONDED. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT, ON THAT MOTION? ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, RAISE YOUR LITTLE PAUSE. OKAY. IT'S A UNANIMOUS VOTE. ALL RIGHT. THAT GIVES 'EM A MESSAGE TOO. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS, UH, BOND ELECTION AND THE BALLOT LANGUAGE, WHICH I SAID, UH, UH, KIND OF PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA, CALLED ME RIGHT AS I WAS LEAVING THE HOUSE, UH, TONIGHT. AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO THIS. I MEAN, I, I DON'T, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A BOND ISSUE IN MY YEAR, 50 PLUS YEARS IN THIS TOWN THAT THE FIRST QUESTION FROM CITIZENS WAS, IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT MY, MY TAXES? AND YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT. I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY THAT WOULD VOTE FOR A BOND ISSUE THAT WAS GONNA INCREASE THEIR TAXES. SO THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE DOING IT. WE'RE JUST NOT, WE HAVE NOT INSTITUTIONALIZED IT, WHICH IS WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR. I'M NOT SURE IT'S REALLY NECESSARY. WE GOT SO MANY RULES. I THINK MOST PEOPLE AROUND HERE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY GET MUMBLED AND JUMBLED TOGETHER. BUT TAXES ARE TO A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION A BIG DEAL. TAXES ARE THE COST OF A FREE SOCIETY. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON AS OPPOSED TO THE SERVICE BEING PROVIDED, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S FINE. YOU CAN VOTE THAT WAY. UH, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF WAYS TO LOOK AT THIS. UH, POLITICIANS ARE CERTAINLY TUNED IN TO, TO TAX ISSUES AND HOW THAT'S GONNA PLAY WITH THEIR, THEIR CONSTITUENTS. SO YOU CAN DECIDE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION, EITHER ACCEPT IT OR, OR, UH, DENY IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ACTUAL QUE QUESTION IS IN FRONT OF US. I I, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED SOMETHING, BUT CAN SOMEONE BE VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE? WELL, TO THE CURRENT CHARTER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUE, I SHOULD PROBABLY LET MICHELLE DO IT, BUT ON GENERAL OBLIGATION, UH, BOND ISSUES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PAID PRETTY MUCH AT TAX REVENUES. HE WANTS TO HAVE A DISCLAIMER ON THE ISSUE ITSELF THAT SAYS, THIS IS GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES, OR THIS IS, IT'S GONNA BE TAX, UH, NEUTRAL. YOU KNOW, HE JUST WANTS A STATEMENT. DOES IT SAY THAT SOMEWHERE? NO, BUT I LISTEN. HOW DID, HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT? I WOULD JUST, OKAY. SO THERE IS A FEW YEARS AGO A HOUSE BILL THAT CAME FORWARD THAT PUT A REQUIREMENT ON ANY BOND ELECTIONS HAVING TO HANDLE BY A SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THAT LANGUAGE IS VERY SPECIFIC AND IT SAYS SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF, THIS WILL PRODUCE A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. AND SO THAT BALLOT LANGUAGE, WHETHER IT OFFICIALLY, UH, IS A TAX INCREASE OR NOT, IS, IS ON THERE. AND THE REQUEST IS THAT WE HAVE SIMILAR LANGUAGE, UM, ON OUR BOND ISSUES. UM, ANYTIME WE GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE BASICALLY, IN ADDITION TO, USUALLY BOND LANGUAGE BALLOT LANGUAGE IS KIND OF LIKE A THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN. DO YOU AUTHORIZE SOMETHING TO APPROVE A, A PARTICULAR PROJECT AND SO FORTH. IN ADDITION TO THAT SIMPLE QUESTION, WHICH IS KINDA LIKE A YES OR NO, UH, YES OR NO FORMAT. UM, IF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE WERE TO SUPPORT THIS CHANGE, AND IF IT GETS PASSED, THERE WOULD BE EVERY SINGLE BOND ELECTION. THERE WOULD BE LANGUAGE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN, THERE WOULD BE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS THIS MAY, UM, PRODUCE A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. SO WHICH SECTION WOULD THAT, UM, I PRODUCED A RED LINE. LET ME SEE WHAT SECTION I I PUT SOME LANGUAGE. UH, LET'S SEE. YEAH, SORRY. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS KIND OF LOOKING FOR. SURE. AND, AND I, AND THIS IS JUST, UM, ARE WE VOTING ON ISSUE STUFF? SO WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT PAGE 18 OF 31, WHAT IS IT MA'AM? PAGE 18 OF 31. YES SIR. SO THE PERSON OR PERSONS WHO PROPOSED THIS BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE COME WITH THIS ISSUE BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE, DO THEY, DO THEY REALIZE THAT GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND VOTES IN LEAGUE CITY ARE EXCEPTIONALLY RARE? ONCE IN A GENERATION, THERE WAS ONE IN 2017 AND ONE IN, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY YEARS. 15, 20 BEFORE THAT. SO 28. [00:45:02] 28 YEARS. OKAY. VERY LONG TIME. ABOUT ONCE IN A GENERATION. SO WHY FOCUS ON SOMETHING THAT IS SO RARE? I'M AFRAID I COULDN'T ANSWER AS TO THE STATE OF MIND OF THE PERSON WHO ASKED FOR THIS. WELL, DIDN'T THAT PERSON GIVE RATIONALE TO YOU OR DID YOU JUST PASS IT ON DIRECTLY WITHOUT ASKING QUESTIONS? I THINK I JUST PASSED IT ON. UM, I DIDN'T ASK FOR RATIONALE. I DIDN'T ASK COUNCIL MEMBER TO EXPLAIN THEIR THEIR THOUGHT PROCESS TO ME. I FIGURED THAT THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE THING FOR OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER. I CAN ADD A LITTLE BIT TO THAT. FOR 28 YEARS, THE CITY DID NOT DO A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND ISSUE BECAUSE WE GOT IN THE HABIT OF ISSUING CERTIFICATES OF PARTICIPATION, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, UH, WHATEVER, WHATEVER OTHER CERTIFICATES THERE ARE OUT THERE, BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE VOTER APPROVAL. SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE MADE THAT DECISION. AND THAT STARTED IN ABOUT 1982. UH, AND THE GUY THAT STARTED IT DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD, HE DIDN'T HAVE REALLY GOOD PEOPLE SKILLS AND HE WAS BUSY AND DIDN'T HAVE TIME. SO HE TRIED TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT BY CONSOLIDATING IT. WHEN I GOT UP HERE, ONE OF THE THINGS I KEPT HEARING FROM PEOPLE WAS, WHEN YOU GO OUT FOR MAJOR BOND ISSUES THAT ARE GONNA AFFECT THIS CITY, WHY WOULD YOU NOT ASK, UH, THE CITIZENS WHAT THEY THINK? AND THAT'S WHAT A GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND IS. I THOUGHT THAT MADE PERFECT SENSE TO ME. WE NEEDED TO BRING, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE TIME TO BRING CITIZENS BACK INTO THE FOLD OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CITY. THE GENERAL OBLIGATION ISSUE WAS WELL SOLD. I MEAN, EVERY, I THINK ONE OF THE PREREQUISITES FOR COUNCIL PEOPLE IS, IF YOU WANT THIS, YOU GOTTA STAND UP AND SAY YOU'RE FOR IT. YOU GOTTA GO TELL YOUR CONSTITUENTS. YOU GOTTA BE WILLING TO MAKE A SPEECH FOR IT. AND THEY DID THAT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF 'EM. THEY ALSO PROVIDED MONEY FOR A PAC TO PAY FOR, FOR SOME OF THE ADVERTISING THAT WENT ALONG WITH THAT. AND SO THERE IS A LITTLE FEAR THAT GOVERNMENT UNCHECKED WILL FIND THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO DO IT. AND WHAT THE FIRST MOST EFFICIENT WAY IS, IS ISOLATED AWAY FROM THE CITIZENS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO PEOPLE IN THIS TOWN, AND, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I NEVER GOT A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO OR WHAT I WAS, BUT THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO KNOW, ARE YOU CONSERVATIVE? AND I LIKED THAT WORD 'CAUSE I WAS A CONSERVATIVE EVEN WHEN I WAS A DEMOCRAT. SO IT DIDN'T MATTER. AND YOU KNOW, I USED IT AND WORE THAT OUT. BUT THEY ALL WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOU STAND ON ISSUES LIKE THAT. WELL, WE GOT AWAY FROM STANDING UP AND LETTING PEOPLE KNOW HOW WE FELT. AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER PASS. UH, I SAID THIS BACK IN 18, WE WILL NOT PASS A BOND ISSUE IF EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET OFF THEIR DUFF AND GO OUT AND MAKE IT HAPPEN. YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE OR TWO PEOPLE OUT. DO YOU GET THE COUNCIL AS A WHOLE HAS TO SPEAK? IT IS THEIR OPPORTUNITY FOR LEADERSHIP IN THIS TOWN. YOU KNOW, JUST TO, TO SAY, I WANT TO, I WANT TO DO SOME CERTIFICATES FOR $20 MILLION FOR THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER. JUST DOESN'T BUILD CONFIDENCE IN THE INSTITUTION. AND IT, THE DYNAMICS OF COUNCIL, UH, ACTIONS AND CITIZENS ACTIONS HAVE TO COINCIDE TO MAKE THAT WORK. AND, AND I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT, THAT THIS IS INCLUDING THE LANGUAGE THAT WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT IS THAT MAY RESULT IN, IN, IN AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BOND? YES. AND OKAY. AND LET ME TELL YOU HOW CONFUSING THIS GETS YOU. YOU GOT A TAX RATE TODAY. YOU'RE IN A GROWING CITY. KEEP THE TAX RATE THE SAME, YOU GOT MORE MONEY COMING IN NEXT YEAR. THAT IS A TAX INCREASE BY DEFINITION. 'CAUSE YOU'RE COLLECTING MORE MONEY THAN YOU DID THE YEAR BEFORE. YOU KNOW, IT STARTS TO GET COMPLICATED. AND IF YOU WANNA PUT IT ON, I MEAN, I HA I DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT THIS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I THINK THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. ARE YOU THROUGH I AM NOW . MY GOD, WHAT WE WE COULD GO ON FOR HOURS LISTENING TO YOU PONTIFICATE ABOUT THE PAST. I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING IF YOU'RE THROUGH, IF YOU MADE YOUR POINT, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN. YOU SAID THAT YOU SAID YOUR FACT THAT YOU'RE NOT FOR IT. NO, I'M NOT. THEN THAT'S OKAY. WHATEVER. I'D LIKE THE CHANCE. EXPLAIN WHY SPEAK ON [00:50:01] THIS TOPIC PERSONALLY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY? EXPLAIN TO WHY, WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE ASKING US TO DO THIS? NO, IF IT AIN'T BROKE, WHY FIX IT? NO, THAT'S WHAT MR. DEFALCO WAS SEEKING FOR AND HE DIDN'T GET THE ANSWER. ALL LET ME JUST SAY IS THAT, UM, I LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS. IF IT'S NOT BROKE, WHY YOU'VE TAKING IT APART TO FIX IT? YOU KNOW, I, I KIND OF WANT TO KEEP THINGS SIMPLE. IS, IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY HISTORY OF BONDS IS THE SAME AS YOURS, PAT, SINCE I'M OLDER THAN YOU ARE, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE GOT THE SAME HISTORY. WELL, NO, I WAS, I WENT THROUGH SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE EARLY DAYS BEFORE YOU WERE BORN. NO SIR. YEAH, NO, I WAS HERE FOR THE 84 BOND ISSUE. YEAH, WELL I WAS HERE TOO. OH, WERE YOU INVOLVED? NO, SIR. OH, OKAY. NO SIR. I WAS A GUY OUT THERE EARNING MONEY. OKAY, GOOD. BUT LET ME SAY IS THAT, THAT, UM, YEAH, I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF LAKE CITY FOR YOU'RE ONLY A DAY OLDER THAN ME. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE OLDER THAN ME? YEAH. WELL, SO AT ANY RATE, LET ME SAY IS THAT, THAT I THINK THAT, UM, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT BONDS THEMSELVES, IF, IF THIS CITY RAN ON BONDS, IF WE WENT FROM ONE BOND TO THE NEXT, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE CASE. BUT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PARTICULAR ITEMS, UH, ON AN AGENDA THAT WE WANT TO HAVE DONE ON A BOND ISSUE. UM, AND THEY, THEY'RE GONNA PASS IF THAT IS THE CASE AND THEY'RE GONNA FAIL IF IT'S NOT. AND I DON'T THINK IF YOU HAVE LANGUAGE IN THERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER IS GONNA MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. BECAUSE I THINK THAT THOSE ANSWERS ARE GONNA COME IN THE DISCUSSION OF THE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR THAT PARTICULAR BOND OR NOT. THEY HAVE BEEN COMING IN, SO IT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE. YEAH. RIGHT. SO I, I PERSONALLY, AGAIN, THINK THIS IS A NON-ISSUE, ONE THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE PASS ON AS FAR AS INSERTING ANY LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER TO DO SO. AND THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. YOU WANNA MAKE THAT IN A FORM OF A MOTION? I WAS JUST VOICING MY OPINION, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY MAKE THAT FORM OF A MOTION. PUT IT INTO IT. WELL, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A VOTE. WELL, LEMME I'D LIKE TO JUST, OKAY, SAY ONE THING JUST REAL QUICK ON THIS. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT AFFECT THE TAX RATE, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST BONDS. AND SO TO SAY THAT, I GUESS TO FIGURE OUT THAT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM WAS THE ONE THING THAT CAUSED A TAX INCREASE, I THINK IS DISINGENUOUS. THERE'S, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ACTUALLY PASS THE BOND, WHICH W YOU KNOW, UH, GIVEN ALL THINGS EQUAL FROM THE YEAR BEFORE WOULD'VE INCREASED IT. BUT BECAUSE THINGS CHANGED FROM THE YEAR BEFORE NOW IT DIDN'T INCREASE IT. AND SO ANYWAY, IT JUST DOESN'T, BY ADDING THAT LANGUAGE DOESN'T, UH, I, I, I THINK AFFECT WHAT WHOEVER IS TRYING TO DO THIS THINKS THAT IT'S GOING TO DO BECAUSE IT, IT, YOU KNOW, IT COULD VERY WELL NOT EVEN HAVE ANY EFFECT ON IT AT ALL. SO, OKAY. MR. MILL CAN MOVED. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND MS. TI SECONDS OR DAVE SECONDS? Y'ALL CAN CO SECOND. IS THERE MORE YOU WANNA SAY ON THE SUBJECT? YEAH, JUST, JUST ONE THING IS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TAX RATE AND TAXES AND THINGS IS THAT IT GETS SKEWED BECAUSE IT IS A VERY COMPLICATED ITEM. AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU WANT TO LOOK AT TAXES AND WHAT'S COLLECTED AND WHAT'S SPENT IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I I BEING AS OLD AS I AM, AND I SAY THAT GENUINELY, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR BRINGING THAT UP AGAIN, PAT, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED MY LIFE AND I HAVE SEEN GREAT ECONOMIC TIMES AND I HAVE SEEN POOR ECONOMIC TIMES. AND WHEN YOU MENTIONED THE EIGHTIES, I CAN TELL YOU IN THE EIGHTIES, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TIMES THERE THAT I THOUGHT THAT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO FILE BANKRUPTCY AND IT WAS NOT GOOD. IS IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHERE THIS CITY GETS ITS MONEY FROM AND DOWN TIMES, YOU KNOW, WE, WE LOOK AT BUDGETS AND WE BUDGET A YEAR IN ADVANCE TO KNOW WHAT THE SALES TAX IS GONNA DO. AND THEN YOU START HAVING HYPERINFLATION AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, YOUR SALES TAX GOES DOWN IN A HAND BASKET. YOU KNOW, PROPERTY TAXES. WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS TO HAVE PROPERTY VALUES GO UP, UP AND UP AND UP AND, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP CUTTING THE TAX RATE, CUTTING THE TAX RATE, CUTTING THE TAX RATE. BUT THE REAL CRUX OF IT IS HOW MUCH MONEY YOU COLLECT. SO THIS LANGUAGE REALLY DOESN'T MAKE ANYTHING [00:55:01] TO DO WITH HOW THIS CITY, HOW THIS COMMUNITY FUNCTIONS. AND I THINK THAT IT'S NOTHING MORE THAN POLITICAL HYPE IS THE REASON WHY THAT THAT'S F****D. WE WANT TO HAVE THAT IN THE CHARTER. AND FOR THAT REASON, THAT'S THE REASON WHY I THINK IT'S A NON-ISSUE FOR ME. THANK YOU. MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED. NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. OH, THERE IS MORE DISCUSSION. YEAH, SO, UM, I I I JUST WANNA SAY ONE THING ABOUT THIS. UH, I'VE SPOKEN MANY TIMES IN FRONT OF LEAGUE CITY COUNCIL HOW MISGUIDED AT BEST, RIDICULOUS AT THE WORST, THIS KIND OF LANGUAGES. UM, THE HYPERFOCUS ON PROPERTY TAXES, LEAGUE CITY GETS MONEY FROM MANY SOURCES. PROPERTY TAX OF COURSE BEING A BIG ONE, BUT IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. UM, SALES TAXES ARE GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER THEN, WELL, THAT'S ALL OF IT. WELL, NO, DURING THE PANDEMIC THERE WAS A FLOOD OF MONEY COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOING ALL OVER THE PLACE, INCLUDING US. SO JUST TO FOCUS ON ONE REVENUE STREAM IS, IS AN, IS AN AGENDA, POLITICAL AGENDA ITEM, NOT A GOVERNANCE ISSUE, WHICH IS WHY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS. I DON'T THINK YOU'D FIND A DISAGREEMENT UP HERE. ALL, ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE WE CLOSE THIS OUT AND VOTE? DAVE SAID BE OUT HERE AT SIX 15. I'VE, I'VE DONE REALLY BAD SO I DON'T SPEAK THEN. OKAY. YEAH, YOU WON'T SPEAK THEN. ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, MOTION? THIS IS THE AMENDED MOTION? NO, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL MOTION. OH, THE MOTION WAS TO MAKE IT A NON-ISSUE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? HEARING NONE. LET'S GO RIGHT ONTO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. THE VOTE FOR THE BOND ELECTION, WAS THAT UNANIMOUS AS WELL? YES. THANK YOU. OKAY. NOW MICHELLE, IT'S [5. REVIEW OF REDLINE CHANGES] YOUR TURN. YES. UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN YOU CONDENSE THE WHOLE NINE MONTHS INTO ABOUT THREE MINUTES? I CERTAINLY TRY TO, I PRODUCED A REPORT IF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO, THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR REPORT, SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU DON'T LIKE ABOUT IT, OKAY. YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIGN IT. I CAN MAKE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU WANT. MY IDEA WAS TO JUST PUT IN A REPORT THAT COULD BE PRESENTED TO COUNSEL OR EMAILED, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD I PUT IN WHAT I BELIEVED WERE THE CHANGES THAT WERE REQUESTED FROM THE COMMITTEE. LIKE I SAID, I SENT THIS OUT TO YOU SO YOU COULD LOOK, SO YOU CAN DOUBLE CHECK ME IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT. IF YOU LIKE IT, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY ONE OF 'EM. BUT I DID PROVIDE REDLINE COPIES TO YOU, SO IF YOU AGREE WITH THEM, THEN I WOULD PROBABLY ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE. AND I, I THINK THAT THAT MY COMMENT WOULD BE THAT I'D LIKE TO GO NOT INDIVIDUALLY AND DISCUSS EACH ONE OF THEM, BUT MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ON THIS COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS THE RED LINES IN ONE, ON PAGE ONE, YOU KNOW, PAGE TWO, THAT SORT OF THING TO WHERE WE THEN CAN MOVE FORWARD CONVINCINGLY THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. SAME THING, BECAUSE I, CHUCK, DO YOU HAVE SOME THINGS THAT YOU WANTED TO TALK ABOUT? AND, AND WHEN I SAY THAT IN, IN THE, I I JUST, THIS WAS JUST TECHNICAL SORT OF A THING. SO IN OUR 20 17 18 COMMITTEE, WE ACTUALLY CREATED A DOCUMENT. I MEANT A REPORT, I MEAN LIKE A POWERPOINT REPORT. AND WE'RE NOT DOING THIS THIS TIME. IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? YES, THAT WAS, THAT WAS A WHOLE NOTHER TOPIC, CHUCK FOR ME. LET ME SAY IS THAT WE, WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED, IF EVERYBODY REMEMBERS THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN AND THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, AND I WAS THINKING THAT WE WERE GONNA BE PRESENTING THIS TO COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, IN THAT FORM. THAT'S WHEN WE ELECTED MIKE THAT HE WAS GONNA BE DOING IT. THAT'S RIGHT. . THERE YOU GO. BUT HE'S THE NICEST OF US ALL. THAT'S RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND AT ANY RATE, LET ME SAY IS THAT IN SAYING THAT IT APPEARS TO ME AND THEN LISTENING TO MICHELLE TONIGHT, THAT ALL WE'RE DOING IS DRAFTING THIS MEMORANDUM AND WE'RE SENDING IT TO 'EM AND THAT'S IT. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE APPEARING BEFORE COUNSEL IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A WORKSHOP ON THIS AND DECIDE WHAT THEY WANT TO DO. SO IF, IF Y'ALL WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT THEN FOR THAT, WHO, I THINK THAT THAT'S AN APPROPRIATE TOPIC TO TALK ABOUT. CHUCK, DO YOU WANNA TELL ME LATER? NO, NO. UM, ABSOLUTELY. UM, AFTER I SENT, UH, WHEN WE TALKED IN THE COMMITTEE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHY WE BRING IT BACK SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE, WE DO WHATEVER THE COMMITTEE WANTS. WE HAD TALKED ABOUT A REPORT THAT WE CAN KIND OF SEND OFF [01:00:01] TO COUNCIL, SO I CERTAINLY WASN'T THINKING OF PREPARING A PRESENTATION. WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. AFTER WE SENT THAT EMAIL OFF TO COUNCIL WITH THIS REPORT, UM, DID HAVE A CHANCE TO KIND OF SPEAK WITH MAYOR LONG AND MAYOR LONG EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION WHERE THE COMMITTEE DOES COME AND PRESENT A REPORT. I CAN CERTAINLY PRODUCE A POWERPOINT AND WORK WITH, WITH MIKE ON THIS ISSUE TO KIND OF PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER, BUT THAT'S, UM, THE POWERPOINT WOULD HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, IT WOULD JUST HAVE IT ON PRETTY SLIDES THAT WE CAN KIND OF SLIDE THROUGH. SO HAPPY TO DO THAT. OKAY. WELL, AND MICHELLE, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAVING A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ALLOWS YOU, UH, ARE LITTLE THINGS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A QUESTION OF WHY WE ONLY DID HE, SHE IN THIS ONE LITTLE AREA AND SO TO, TO VERBALIZE TO THE COUNCIL THE FACT THAT WE SAID INSTEAD OF MAKING SWEEPING CHANGES ACROSS THE WHOLE ENTIRE CHARTER ABOUT GENDER, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING GENDER, THAT WE, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU ONLY ADDRESS, UH, ADDRESS GENDER, SORRY, ADDRESS GENDER IN THE TOPICS THAT YOU END UP CHANGING AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME. AND SO, SO IT, IT ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO VERBALIZE TO THEM WHETHER THEY LIKE THAT OR NOT. THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, DO WHATEVER WE, I WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE TO PRODUCE THE POWERPOINT IN 2018. SO I HAVE THOSE SLIDES HALE TO DO THAT. UM, YEAH, AND I CAN CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THE, THE WORK SESSION THAT COUNCIL TALKED IS, IS ACTUALLY BEEN TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR MAY. AND SO HAPPY TO, IF, IF WE CAN SIGN THIS. YOU CANNOT SIGN IT. IT'S WHAT, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO PRESENT IT. LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS BASED OFF OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMITTEE, SEVERAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS SAYING THEY WANTED TO JUST SEND SOMETHING OFF TO COUNCIL. SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR YOU. OKAY. WE'RE SITTING UP HERE TALKING. THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE IN THE TAPE IS NOT REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET US BACK ON TRACK. THERE'S A CAPTION BEFORE EACH ONE OF US, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ, UH, ALL THE STUFF THAT'S IN THERE THAT CAN COME UP IN THE DISCUSSION. BUT THE FIRST ITEM ON HERE WAS, UH, ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 17, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH APPOINTED OFFICERS, THE CITY SECRETARY BOND AMOUNT. WE RECOMMEND A SPECIFIC BOND AMOUNT FOR THE CITY SECRETARY BE DELETED. THAT'S THE ISSUE. AND YOU CAN READ DOWN AND SEE WHERE SHE TOOK OUT THE WORDS. UH, CITY SECRETARY SHALL HAVE A BOND AND ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, SO ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ELIMINATE THAT YOU WANT LEAVE IT LIKE IT IS. OKAY. I, I, I'M, IF IF WHAT YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO IS, IS TO GO ONE BY ONE, WE CAN DO THAT. I THOUGHT DOING THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED HIM. BY PAGE. OH, PAGE OKAY. BY PAGE. OKAY. YOU KNOW, I, I, I THOUGHT IT'D BE A LITTLE QUICKER IF WE REVIEW BY PAGE IF SOMEBODY MADE NOTES AS FAR AS ANYTHING THAT THEY FOUND THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE IN THERE. SO, OKAY. BY PAGE, EVERYBODY LOOK AT YOUR PAGE. I'VE ALREADY SAID WHAT THE FIRST ONE WAS ABOUT. SECOND ONE WAS ARTICLE TWO, SECTION 17. UH, APPOINTMENT AUTHORITY. CAN, CAN WE APPROVE THEM ALONG THE WAY? PAGE BY PAGE. WHO LEFT? OH, TO TOMMY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, FIRST PAGE. YOU GOT 'EM HERE. DO YOU WANT TO PROVE THAT OR NOT? THAT'S AN UP OR DOWN. GIVE A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN SO I KNOW WHAT TO DO. OKAY. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY APPROVING THE LANGUAGE, WE'RE APPROVING THAT THIS IS WHAT JAR JAR COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. SECTION THREE HAS THREE ITEMS. UH, SPECIFIC, UH, BOND AMOUNT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS RECOMMEND THE REFERENCES TO 2013 AND 15 ELECTION DATES BE DELETED FROM THE CHARTER AND ARTICLE. UH, FOUR SECTION THREE, UH, REQUIREMENTS OF THE PETITION FOR INITIATIVE OF REFERENDUM. WE RECOMMEND REQUIRED SIGNATURE FOR PETITION REFERENDUM BE REDUCED FROM 20% OF REGISTERED VOTERS TO 10. THAT'S NOT EVEN ON, BUT I HAVE A LOOMING VOICE OR, UH, 20% OF REGISTERED VOTERS TO 10% OF THOSE THAT VOTED IN THE LAST GENERAL ELECTION WITH A REQUIRED 2000 MINIMUM SIGNATURES. THOSE ARE THE THREE ISSUES. I AGREE. IF YOU AGREE, THUMBS UP. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S UNANIMOUS. THANK YOU, MICHELLE. [01:05:01] MAKING THIS EASY. ALL RIGHT. PAGE, UH, THREE, ARTICLE FOUR POWER OF RECALL RECOMMEND THE REQUIRED SIGNATURES FOR RECALL BE REDUCED FROM 10% OF REGISTERED VOTERS TO 10% OF THOSE WHO VOTED IN THE LAST ELECTION. ALRIGHT. AND THEN SEVEN ARTICLE 10, SECTION SEVEN STREETS AND SUBDIVISIONS. WE RECOGNIZE THAT HARRIS COUNTY BE ADDED TO, UH, ACCOUNT FOR THE PARTS OF LEAGUE CITY LOCATED IN HARRIS COUNTY. ALRIGHT. IS THAT AN UP OR A DOWN? I'M, I'M OKAY. EXCEPT FOR THE SUMMATION THAT MICHELLE DID ON THE 10%, IT'S, IT, IT'S WE'RE 10% OF THE TOTAL OF PEOPLE THAT VOTED NOT 10% OF THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED. WELL, IT'S, YEAH, 10%. WELL, THE, IT'S THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. INTERCHANGES IS CORRECT, BUT THE SUMMATION, YOU, I GET TO THE POINT WHEN I FIRST READ IT, I THOUGHT, OH WAIT A MINUTE. YOU HAD TO HAVE VOTED IN THE FIRST ELECTION. YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO HAVE VOTED IT IN THAT ELECTION TO VOTE IN THE, THE RECALL. RIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT THE CASE. OH, HAPPY TO, HAPPY TO CHANGE THAT. YEAH. YEAH. WELL, I'M JUST IN THE SUMMATION IS WELL, OKAY, WELL THAT'S A GOOD CALL. GOOD CALL LANGUAGE ITSELF. ALRIGHT. THAT'S A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS OUT THUMB WITH THAT CHANGE. WITH THAT CHANGE. WITH THE CHANGE. YEAH. MICHELLE, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY HE'S GETTING AT, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. YES. THERE'S OUR HOME RULE CHARTER. THAT'S ALWAYS AN INTERESTING READ AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON [6. REVIEW OF CHARTER REVIEW REPORT] TO, UH, REPORT. ARE THESE THESE LETTERS THAT YOU GOT ABOUT THE PARTISANSHIP THAT WERE WRITTEN TO YOU? YES. AM I SUPPOSED TO READ THOSE? WE ALREADY VOTED THAT DOWN. YEAH. YES. I JUST, THEY ASKED THAT I PROVIDE 'EM TO THE, A COPY TO THE COMMITTEE, SO. OKAY. IT'S TRYING TO BE HELPFUL. KENT LAY LOCK, UH, LINDY DORSEY. OKAY. I HOPE, IS THIS ON TV TONIGHT? I FORGOT TO ASK. IT'S ON SWT. IT'S STREAMING ON SWAG. CERTAINLY. IT IS VIDEOTAPED. SO ANYWAY, SO THEY'LL KNOW. OKAY. SO, SO ARE, ARE WE GONNA SIGN THIS TONIGHT? UM, WELL THERE'S A CHANGE NOW. I, I CAN MAKE THE CHANGE PRINT IT, COME BACK OUT, OR WE CAN MAKE THE CHANGE AND I CAN SEND IT TO YOU TO SIGN VIA DOCUSIGN. OR WE COULD JUST HAVE ONE PERSON SIGN THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR HOWEVER YOU WOULD LIKE IT HANDLED. I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING EVERYONE SIGN, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S NECESSARY TO CHASE EVERYBODY DOWN. I KNOW THEY WANT TO SIGN A UNITY, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE ISSUES HAVE NOT ALL BEEN UNANIMOUS AMONGST THE COMMITTEE. I UNDERSTAND SOME, YOU KNOW, AREN'T HAPPY WITH SOME OF IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAJORITY RULED. IF YOU DON'T WANNA SIGN IT, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO SIGN IT. IF YOU WANT MIKE TO SIGN IT, MICHAEL SIGN, MIKE, HE'LL SIGN ANYTHING. NO, I, WELL, SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO GOING FORWARD. SO WE HAVE THIS, UH, SUMMATION REPORT THAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT SIGNING, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT IS ALSO GOING TO BE PUT TOGETHER AS WELL. THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT THE PRESENTATION WILL PROBABLY GO THROUGH IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL. CORRECT? YES. YOU'RE GIVEN IT. YEAH, SO I WOULD PROBABLY, AGAIN, I THINK THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATION I DID AT THE PREVIOUS CRACK, UM, WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE A GENERAL STUFF ABOUT JUST CHARTER ELECTIONS AND SO FORTH, SO I CAN ADD SOME OF THAT INFORMATION. AGAIN, THAT WAS MEANT FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION. THIS WAS JUST MY UNDERSTANDING. THE COMMITTEE JUST WANTED TO SEND A REPORT AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ASK IS THAT IN THE LAST REPORT, UH, WE WERE VERY GOOD ABOUT, UH, SHOWING WHEN THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT FULL UNANIMOUS AGREEMENT TO AN ITEM THAT WAS GONNA CHANGE. AND WE GAVE, UM, I GUESS THE PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AT THE ACTUAL MEETING ITSELF, BUT ALSO IN THE, IN THE, UM, PRESENTATION, WE ACKNOWLEDGED THE FACT THAT HEY, THIS WASN'T, UM, THIS WASN'T UNANIMOUS AND THIS IS WHAT THE OPPOSING, UH, GROUP OR PERSON, UH, THIS WAS WHY THEY, THEY DIDN'T, UH, SUPPORT IT. SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S INCLUDED AS WELL. SO, SO IT, IT MIGHT NOT BE CLEAR. SO I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU GIVE IT TO, THERE WAS AN ITEM COME ON. SURE. I'M SORRY. YOU'RE PASSING NOTES AND SCHOOL? NO, I HAVE AN UMBRELLA IN MY CAR. OKAY. NO, UH, ALL I'M SAYING IS, UH, IF THERE WAS, WHAT, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS IF THERE WAS A COMMITTEE MEMBER THAT WAS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE ACTUAL CHANGES WERE, IF THEY COULD GET THEIR INFORMATION TO [01:10:01] MICHELLE SO SHE COULD PUT THAT ACCURATELY IN THE PRESENTATION AND, AND, AND IT, IT IT BE SUMMARIZED ACCURATELY. YEAH. MY, MY ASSUMPTION ABOUT SIGNING THIS IS THAT THIS IS THE SUMMARY REPORT THAT WE CAME UP WITH. THIS IS NOT LIKE EVERYBODY AGREES TO EVERYTHING. I, YEAH, YEAH, I AGREE. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TELL 'EM WHETHER WE AGREED OR DISAGREED. I KNOW THEY'D LIKE TO SEE UNANIMOUS DEAL, BUT THEY SHOULD KNOW ALL OF US WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW WE'RE NOT UNANIMOUS ABOUT ANYTHING. AND ABOUT THE PARTS IN ELECTION, WE WERE WELL, BUT, YOU KNOW, COME ON. THEY, THEY TOLD US WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF US WHEN THEY THREW THIS AT US, LIKE A SPITBALL AT THE LAST MINUTE. ALRIGHT, SO DON'T, DON'T WRITE THAT DOWN. IT'S GOOD . ALRIGHT, SO, UH, I'VE MADE THE CHANGE THAT COUNT. UM, SORRY, I WAS GONNA SAY COUNCIL MEMBER MILLIKEN, I'VE MADE THE CHANGE THAT HE REQUESTED, SO IT'S PRINTING. I CAN CERTAINLY BE BEFORE EVERYONE LEAVES. I'M HAPPY TO GO GET IT AND THAT'D BE GREAT. IF YOU WANT TO SIGN IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. WE'VE REVIEWED THE CHARTER REPORT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE RED LINE. UH, DOES [7. DISCUSSION REGARDING NEXT MEETING DATE] ANYBODY THINK IT'S NECESSARY THAT WE MEET AGAIN? I DON'T, BUT YOU MIGHT. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT MICHELLE COMES UP WITH SO THAT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK HER. NOT THAT I KNOW SHE'S PERFECT, BUT SHE CAN, SHE CAN CERTAINLY SEND IT OUT TO EVERYBODY. YES. BUT THE ONE PERSON THAT NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSION IS MIKE. 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA BE THE PRESENTER. WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. SURE, SURE. OKAY. SO I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH YOU AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS TO THE, UH, PRESENTATION, GET THAT TO ME AND I'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT'S UPDATED. OKAY. THERE IS NO DISCUSSION REGARDING THE NEXT MEETING TODAY, BUT LET ME SAY THIS TO ALL OF YOU ARE HERE. IT WAS A BIG IMPOSITION FOR YOU TO TAKE TIME OUTTA YOUR BUSY LIVES TO COME DOWN HERE ON MONDAY NIGHTS. AND I KNOW YOU HATE LISTENING TO ME GO ON AND ON AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LITTLE SNARLING, BUT NOT MUCH. UH, YOU'RE SERIOUS BUNCH OF PEOPLE AND THE, THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY OUGHT TO BE REAL PROUD OF, OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR 'EM. AND I AM PROUD OF WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR 'EM. IT WAS A MAJOR DEAL JUST TO GET TO THIS CHARTER COMMITTEE. THEY HAD TO TURN IT DOWN A COUPLE TIMES, WHICH I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. THE CHARTER SAID EVERY TWO YEARS I'M A RULE FOLLOWER. I THINK THEY OUGHT TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE RULES, RIGHT. MICHELLE? OH, I SIR. ARE YOU THE CITY ATTORNEY YET? I AM, I KNEW THAT IT HAPPENED. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD FOR YOU. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. SO, SO JUST ONE POINT. I WOULD LIKE ALL OF US TO BE INFORMED ACTIVELY VIA EMAIL WHEN THE WORKSHOP COMES UP, WHEN AND WHERE THAT'LL BE. ABSOLUTELY. I'LL GET ONE. YOU THANK YOU. ANYTHING YOU WANT FROM ME? OF COURSE. I'M JUST FULL OF THE YEAH, WE MOVE TO ADJOURN. MOVE TO ADJOURN. OKAY. WE ARE ADJOURNED. AND FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SIGN, I'M GONNA RUN UP THERE TO THE PRINTER AND GO GET THE UPDATED ONE. AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T, WE WILL SEE YOU. WE WILL SEE YOU LATER. WE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.