Apr 09, 2024 Regular Meetings

THANK YOU, CHLOE STOUT.

HELLO.

UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I, ABOUT NINE MONTHS AGO, BOUGHT A HOME IN LAKE CITY IN THE LAKES OF BAY COLONY.

AND I SPECIFICALLY CHOSE TO MOVE TO LEAGUE CITY SO THAT MY KIDS WOULD HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GROW UP AND, AND A BIG YARD AND A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE COULD TAKE WALKS AND WE DO DAILY.

UM, I HAVE A 1-YEAR-OLD AND THEN I HAVE 6-YEAR-OLD TWINS.

AND, UM, RECENTLY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WE HAVE HAD A MAJOR ISSUE WITH PEOPLE FEEDING WILDLIFE SUCH AS SEAGULLS.

AND, UM, WE HAVE THOUSANDS NOW, UM, OF SEAGULLS JUST FLYING OVER OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DAILY.

UM, MY 1-YEAR-OLD, WE WERE ON A WALK THE OTHER DAY AND IN HIS STROLLER ON OUR WALK, HE WAS POOPED ON ON HIS HEAD.

AND, UH, WE HAVE A NEIGHBOR WHO IS THROWING HUMAN FOOD, LIKE ROTTING LEFTOVER FOOD THAT SHOULD BE THROWN AWAY, YOU KNOW, IN A TRASH CAN.

AND SHE'S THROWING IT ON OUR SIDEWALKS, OUR DRIVEWAYS, OUR STREETS.

AND, UM, SHE'S DOING IT TO FEED THE SEAGULLS, WHICH IS, I BELIEVE ILLEGAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ANIMAL CONTROL AND A FEW OTHER DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON THE ISSUE ITSELF.

BUT I AM HERE TO SEE IF THERE'S MORE THAT COULD BE DONE ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE HAVING MORE DANGEROUS ANIMALS AS WELL, SUCH AS COYOTES.

UM, I CATCH THEM ON MY RING CAMERA ALMOST EVERY NIGHT.

AND LIKE I SAID, I'VE LIVED HERE NINE MONTHS AND IT'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE UNTIL THE FEEDING BEGUN.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO BRING AWARENESS TO.

I GUESS WE WERE MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE RECENTLY.

YES, SIR.

AND WE WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU.

WE'LL HELP WONDERFUL STAFF.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LAURA TEITSWORTH, WE'D HAVE BROUGHT YOU THE MIC.

THAT WOULD'VE BEEN REALLY NICE.

I HAVE A BROKEN FOOT.

HELLO.

UH, MY NAME IS LAURA TEITSWORTH, FIVE 17 SMALL CEDAR DRIVE.

UM, I COME TO YOU TONIGHT BECAUSE, UM, I AM ALMOST AT THE STAGE OF BEGGING YOU TO CONSIDER AND START TAKING ACTION ON THESE, UH, LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY, UM, PLACES THAT ARE COMING TO LEAK CITY.

UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T, UH, NOTICED THERE IS AN OUTPOURING OF RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SHOWN UP AT THE P AND Z MEETINGS, UM, AGAINST THESE STORAGE FACILITIES.

UH, THEY ARE REACHING OUT TO, AND THEY GAVE ME A VERY LAST MINUTE MEETING NOTICE AT 1130 TODAY SAYING THAT THEY'RE MEETING AT PAR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TOMORROW FROM SIX TO SEVEN 30 AT LESS THAN A 24 HOUR NOTICE.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A MEETING THAT IS SPONSORED BY THE CITY OR IF THIS IS JUST CYPRESS CREEK REACHING OUT TO RESIDENTS.

UH, ACCORDING TO WHAT I KNOW, THEY'VE ONLY REACHED OUT TO ME.

UM, BUT THESE ARE LAST MINUTE BACKDOOR MEETINGS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO HAVE, AND I WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THEM.

THE BIG TOP CONCERN THAT WE ARE SEEING IS THAT WE FEAR FOR THE SAFETY WITH THESE LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES.

AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIRE MARSHAL AND OUR FIRE CHIEF HAS SAID WE DO NOT HAVE THE TRAINING TO HANDLE A THERMAL RUNAWAY FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

UM, THERE ARE LOTS OF CHEMICALS THAT LEACH OUT OF THESE STORAGE FACILITIES.

THEY GET HOT.

UM, AND, AND THERE ARE JUST SO MANY ISSUES WITH THIS.

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO GET

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OUR RESTRICTIONS.

ISN'T IT STRANGE THAT NORTH CAROLINA, NEW JERSEY, MICHIGAN ARE ALL TRYING TO PUT LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES IN LAKE CITY AND NOT IN OTHER PLACES? WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR DUCKS IN A ROW AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE OUR RESIDENTS SAFETY IN MIND FIRST, SAFETY FIRST, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SAFE.

UM, IT IS A MYSTERIOUS THING THAT WE HAVE A LITHIUM BATTERY STORAGE FACILITY ON, ON FLOYD ROAD.

UH, AND I'D SURELY LIKE TO KNOW HOW IT ENDED UP THERE, UH, WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, I THINK THAT'S VERY STRANGE AND I'D LOVE FOR SOMEONE TO HELP ME DIG FURTHER INTO THAT.

BUT WE, AND, AND 10 FEET AWAY FROM A PERSON'S BACK FENCE, I THINK IT'S TIME THAT WE GET OUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE AGREE WITH YOU STAFF'S WORKING ON IT, AND IT IS STRANGE THAT THERE'S ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE AN SEP AND THAT IS ALREADY BEING LOOKED INTO HOW THAT HAPPENED.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK, UH, CHIEF ANA AND CHIEF LUGER FOR TAKING A FEW MINUTES TO TALK TO ME ABOUT, UH, THE ISSUES, UH, THAT WE'RE HAVING AT THE ANCHOR HAR AT HARBOR SOCIAL HAR UH, APARTMENTS, UH, PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

SO I'M HERE TODAY IN REGARDS TO LACK OF SAFETY AND SECURITY AT THE ANCHOR SOUTH SHO HARBOR APARTMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN, UH, HAVING ONGOING ISSUES FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

UM, I HAVE SENT AN EMAIL IN REGARDS TO THE NUMEROUS OCCURRENCES AND SERVICE CALLS FROM FIRE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH HAVE SERIOUS, SERIOUSLY INCREASED SINCE CUSHMAN AND WAKEFIELD TOOK OVER, UH, MANAGING THE COMPLEX STARTING OFF, UH, WITH A BANG IN JUNE OF 2022, WITH A FULL BLOWN SEARCH WARRANT, WITH A SLEW OF POLICE CARS TO INCLUDE UNDERCOVER CARS AND HEAVY WEAPONS ON DISPLAY.

YOU CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT IT WAS PROBABLY FOR NARCOTICS.

UM, AS MUCH AS WE LOVE RESPECT AND OUR FRANK FALL FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS FIREFIGHTERS, UM, AND THANKFUL FOR, YOU KNOW, THEM BEING HERE IN GENERAL, UH, LET'S JUST FACE IT, YOU ARE OUR LOCAL JIM CANTO DURING HURRICANE SEASON.

WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE YOU THERE, ESPECIALLY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

YOU'RE NOT THE BEARS OR GOOD NEWS.

THAT'S NOTHING PERSONAL.

THAT'S A FACT.

SO AS A FORMER DIRECTOR OF SALES, UH, AND GENERAL MANAGER IN THE HOTEL INDUSTRY, IT IS, UM, A KNOWN FACT THAT THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE, UH, TENDS TO ENCOURAGE A LOWER OCCUPANCY FOLLOWED BY ADDITIONAL COST, COST, COST, COST CUTTING MEASURES AND LOWERING RATE, WHICH IN TURNS ATTRACT AN UNSAVORY CROWD, WHICH IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING THE HIGHER OF ON MARCH 25TH, UH, THE HIGHER OF AN UNINSURED FLY-BY-NIGHT CONTRACTOR TO ADD ADDITIONAL SMOKE DETECTORS ON MARCH 25TH, 2024, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN A CALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AS ONE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES WAS CAUGHT ON CAMERA, STEALING A FEW ITEMS IN THE UNIT, AS WAS AN APPEARANCE ON THE KHOU.

UH, 11 NEWS, UM, IS JUST A PRIME EXAMPLE AS WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS NO NEED TO PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES FOR A FEW FOOD ITEMS. THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS FOR A LOT OF TENANTS IS WERE THOSE CONTRACTORS, UH, CASING THE UNITS ABLE TO MAKE DUPLICATE KEYS TO COME BACK LATER.

UM, I WAS EXPLAINING, BUT THERE WAS A, UM, CASE WITH A WOMAN WHO SUED MARRIOTT INTERNATIONAL, UH, FOR A SIMILAR, UH, CASE, UH, SIMILAR INCIDENT OF A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR BEING GIVEN THE KEYS NOT BEING ESCORTED BY MANAGEMENT WHO CLOSED THE DOORS, UH, BEHIND HER, ASSAULTED HER AND RAPED HER IN ONE OF THEIR PROPERTIES IN SAN ANTONIO.

WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ANSWERS AS TO THE THIRD PARTY, UH, CONTRACTOR WAS, UM, STILL PROCEEDING UNSCORED AS WEDNESDAY.

SO NO COMPANY, NO UNIFORM SHIRTS, NO NOTHING.

SO I DID BRING A COPY OF THE EMAILS THAT I SENT TODAY IN CASE SOMEONE DIDN'T RECEIVE IT.

AND IF YOU HAND IT TO THE ATTORNEY, WE'LL WE'LL PASS 'EM OUT.

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I'M TOM HIGGINS AND I'M HERE TALKING IN ADVANCE OF, UH, SEVEN A IN THE, UH, UM, CONSENT AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT VERY PASSIONATELY.

I'LL HAVE MORE TO TALK ABOUT IF IT DOESN'T GET COVERED BY THE, UH, BUILDER.

BUT WHAT I WANNA SAY IN THE BEGINNING IS THIS, IT WAS A TIE AT, UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.

I HOPE THAT IT'S BETTER THIS TIME.

THE REASON THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING THAT IT SEEMED, UM, TO BE A TIE WAS THAT, UH, STAFF HAD RECOMMENDED NO, PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT WAS, WE'RE AN 80 20 REP, UH, RESIDENTIAL TO, TO, UH, COMMERCIAL.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE AS A CITY TO 60 40.

I OWN PART OF THAT, UH, 80 20.

I'M IN THE 20 GROUP NOW ON THE, THE GYMNASTICS FACILITY NEXT TO THE SEVEN A.

AGAIN, I'LL SPEAK TO IT, ANSWER DIRECT QUESTIONS, BUT I'M VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF HAVING 200 NEW FAMILIES OUT IN LEAGUE CITY IN THAT AREA.

THANK YOU, GAIL TAYLOR, GOOD EVENING.

I LIVE ON DICKINSON AVENUE, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE BEST STATION BEING OVER HERE ON HIGHWAY THREE.

G'S REPRESENTATIVE MELISSA WASHINGTON WAS AT THE MEETING AND SHE REPORTED THAT, UH, GLO IS FINALIZING ALL OF THE, UH, DECISIONS REGARDING THE MITIGATION MONIES.

THANK YOU, JAVIER MORALES.

UH, GOOD EVENING.

I'M THE, UH, DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE FOR SEVEN A, SEVEN B.

UH, SHOULD I SPEAK NOW OR SHOULD I WAIT WITH CHRIS CARPENTER ON THE TOPIC? IT'S UP TO YOU.

DO YOU EVER WANT, UH, THEN, THEN I'LL GO AHEAD AND WAIT.

UH, OKAY.

SO IT'S, I'LL CALL BACK TO BACK.

PERFECT.

PEGGY ZALAR.

PEGGY ZALAR, 1802 RAMPART.

WE HAD A CLEAR CREEK WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE, UH, MEETING TODAY.

AND AS I PROMISED, WHEN YOU APPOINTED ME, I WOULD REPORT BACK AFTER EACH MEETING.

UH, WE DID HAVE A QUORUM, EXCELLENT PARTICIPATION.

UH, WE HAD SO MANY TOPICS TO COVER.

I I ACTUALLY TOOK SOME NOTES.

UH, WE WERE ASKED BY HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT, UH, TO SUPPORT A LETTER THAT IS BEING, UH, SPEARHEADED BY CONGRESSMAN BABIN AND WEBER TO SUPPORT THE CLEAR CREEK FEDERAL PROJECT.

WE ARE AUTHORIZED, BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS, UH, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

SO WE, WE AGREED TO DO THAT.

WE WILL CUSTOMIZE THE LETTER A BIT.

MAYOR, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IS ONCE WE RECEIVE THE TEMPLATE, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO GET WITH YOU AND SEE IF WE COULDN'T HAVE ALSO LAKE CITY SUPPORT.

UH, DICKINSON WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE HAS AGREED TO WRITE A LETTER.

I WILL REACH OUT TO FRIENDSWOOD AS WELL AS GALVESTON COUNTY CONSOLIDATED DRAINAGE DISTRICT.

AND SINCE WE'RE ALL DOWNSTREAM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT EFFORT FOR US TO GET BEHIND.

HARRIS COUNTY FLEX PATROL DISTRICT HAD A PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING, AND IT WAS HELD VIRTUALLY, AND IT WAS ON THE CLEAR CREEK FEDERAL PROJECT.

IT WAS EXCELLENT.

IT WAS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF, AND THEY WENT OVER THE HISTORY OF THE PROJECT, THE EVOLUTION OF THE PROJECT, WHERE WE ARE NOW, AND WORKING TOWARD COMPLETION IN, UH, 2032.

THEY PLAN TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT MEETING THE SECOND QUARTER OF THIS YEAR.

UH, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE, I WILL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO, UH, SEND YOU AN EMAIL, A REMINDER, UH, IT'S JUST A, AN EASY WAY TO, UH, STAY INFORMED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE CLEAR CREEK WATERSHED FEDERAL PROJECT THAT HAS MANY COMPONENTS TO IT, BUT SINCE WE'RE WE'RE DOWNSTREAM OF EVERYBODY, WHATEVER IT IS THEY DO, I DON'T CARE HOW MINOR IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

SO THE, UH, THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING DONE UPSTREAM GETS TO BE MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT AS WE HAVE MORE DEVELOPMENT.

UH, WE DID DISCUSS THE FRIENDSWOOD STORM WATER REGIONAL, UH, DETENTION BASIN PROJECT AT, UH, 1959.

THAT IS A LARGE UNDEVELOPED AREA THAT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY.

WE BEING THE GALVESTON COUNTY CONSOLIDATED DRAINAGE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS GALVESTON COUNTY AND HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT, THEY'RE IN THE PER PHASE.

IT'S GOING TO BE A SUBSTANTIAL PLACE FOR US TO HOLD WATER UPSTREAM OF US.

SO THAT'S EXCELLENT.

I'M GONNA NEED JUST A LITTLE EXTRA TIME.

THAT'S FINE.

SO, UH,

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SO AT THE HGAC BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING, MAY 21ST, YOU'LL BE GETTING AN INVITE.

UH, THEY WILL BE HANDING OUT, THEY'RE CALLING IT BIG CHECKS, I'LL CALL IT SUBSTANTIAL CHECKS.

AND I'M COUNTING ON US BEING THERE TOO WITH A SMILE.

RECEIVE OUR PORTION.

THERE WILL BE SEVERAL ENTITIES RECEIVING THE CHECKS, UH, LAKE CITY AND FRIENDSWOOD, OR AMONG THE, THE CITIES.

SO GOOD NEWS FOR US.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS AS WELL AS YOU, EVERY OTHER MONTH WHEN WE HAVE OUR CLEAR CREEK WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS IN AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A HALF, IT IS AN EXCELLENT WAY TO GET A GREAT UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE WATERSHED.

AND HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL DISTRICT HAS REALLY STEPPED UP.

THEY GIVE EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT BRIEFINGS.

THEY HAVE THEIR STAFF THERE READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE CLEAR CREEK WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE, IF YOU CAN FIND THE TIME, IT WOULD BE REALLY WORTHWHILE BECAUSE AS WE GO FORWARD WITH THE LARGER PROJECTS, AS WE HAVE MORE CHALLENGES WITH THE WATERSHED, I HOPE OUR CITIZENS START ASKING US MORE QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO STAY INFORMED.

AND I WILL CLOSE BY SAYING I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO, UH, REPRESENT YOU THE WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE.

IT HAS ALLOWED A, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO, TO MEET A LOT OF PEOPLE, TO NETWORK AND TO KEEP LAKE CITY AND THE CLEAR CREEK WATERSHED STEERING COMMITTEE IN THE CONVERSATION.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND AND PASSION FOR IT.

YES.

AND IF YOU THROW ME AN EXTRA MINUTE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, THAT'S OKAY.

I, YEAH, YOU HAD AN EXTRA MINUTE.

I ALREADY GIVEN YOU TWO EXTRA MINUTES.

MAYBE NOT THREE, MAYBE NOT THREE, BUT I'D GIVE YOU TWO.

ALRIGHT.

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UH, CONSENT AGENDA SIX A THROUGH N WITH SIX B BEING PULLED.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

I SEEING NO SPEAKERS, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

8 4 0 AGAINST

[7A. 24-0156 Hold a public hearing on a request to rezone approximately 54.7610 acres from “CM” (Commercial Mixed Use) to “RSF-7” (Residential Single Family 7) for a Zoning Change Application, MAP-24-0001 (Sonoma / West Nasa Tract), generally located along the east side of West Old Nasa Road and along the west side of West Nasa Boulevard (Director of Planning) ]

SEVEN.

UH, PUBLIC HEARING SEVEN A HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO REQUEST TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 54.761 ACRES FROM CM COMMERCIAL MIXED USE TO R SF SEVEN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN FOR ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION MAP DASH 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 SONOMA DASH WEST NASA TRACK GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE EAST OF WEST OLD NASA ROAD AND ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF NASA BOULEVARD.

PUBLIC HEARING STARTS AT 6 23.

UH, LET'S DO THE BRIEF, LET'S DO THE, THE KIND OF BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF IT REAL QUICK AND THEN WE'LL CALL UP, UH, PEOPLE TO TALK.

SURE.

UM, SO AS MENTIONED, THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE ABOUT 55 ACRES, UM, FROM COMMERCIAL MIXED USE TO A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7,000 SQUARE FEET.

THIS PROPERTY'S LOCATED DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE CHALLENGER, UM, STADIUM TO THE EAST HAS AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND SOME COMMERCIAL FACILITIES TO THE NORTH AND VACANT COMMERCIAL LAND TO THE WEST.

UM, OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS REMAINING COMMERCIAL.

THIS IS THE PROPOSED LAYOUT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 200 LOTS.

UM, AS MENTIONED, 7,000 SQUARE FEET A PIECE, 2.4 ACRES OF PARK LAND.

AND ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, UM, THIS WILL BE IN THE STARTER HOME VARIETY.

THE PROPERTY WILL BE, HAVE TWO POINTS OF ACCESS, ONE ON OLD NASA AND ONE ON WEST NASA BOULEVARD.

UM, OLD NASA'S IN PRETTY BAD SHAPE.

THAT'S THE PROPERTY LOCATED HERE ON IN PURPLE ON YOUR SCREEN.

AND, UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED THAT, UM, IF THEY ARE GONNA USE THAT AS AN ACCESS POINT, THAT THEY WOULD MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO THAT ROADWAY.

AND SO HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE OLD NASA, UM, LOOKING NORTH, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, APARTMENTS TO THE WEST.

AND HERE'S A PICTURE FROM THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

LOOKING AT THAT CHALLENGER STADIUM TO THE EAST HANK, IT WAS TIMELY.

UM, SO WHENEVER WE LOOK AT THESE, UM, WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL FACTORS, UM, FOR THE ZONING CASE, UM, TO FORM A RECOMMENDATION ZONING SURROUNDING LAND USES, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMERCIAL LAND INVENTORY IN HARRIS COUNTY.

SO FROM THE ZONING AND SURROUNDING, UM, LAND USE, WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, IT'S

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COMPLETELY SURROUNDED ON, ON ALL SIDES BY, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, GOT COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY TO THE WEST, AND THEN, UM, THE STADIUM TO THE EAST.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING, UM, ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.

UM, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, UM, I KNOW THE GENTLEMAN THAT CAME UP HERE TALKED ABOUT THE 60 40 SPLIT, UM, THAT WE AIM FOR.

UM, AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AT 80 20.

AS PART OF THAT WE LOOK TO RETAIN, UM, THE COMMERCIALLY ZONED LAND IN LEAGUE CITY.

UM, SO FROM A ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THIS STATE COMMERCIAL AND THEN A COMMERCIAL LAND INVENTORY.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 55 ACRES HERE IN HARRIS COUNTY.

WE HAVE ABOUT 110 ACRES OF COMMERCIALLY UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.

SO THIS WOULD BE REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPABLE COMMERCIAL LAND IN HARRIS COUNTY BY HALF.

UM, SO IN SUMMARIZING, UM, IT'S, THE REQUEST IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UM, OR SURROUNDING USES OR DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS.

UM, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE FUTURE RESIDENTS COULD BE NE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED BY THE ADJACENCY TO CHALLENGER STADIUM LIGHTS, TRAFFIC.

UM, AND IT DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOAL OF INCREASING OR MAINTAINING THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL LAND IN LEAGUE CITY.

UM, STAFFS RECOMMENDING THAT THE ZONING REMAIN MIXED USE AND, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION VOTE TO APPROVE FAILED FOUR TO FOUR.

I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I KNOW JAVIER MORALES, THE APPLICANT, UM, WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW THINGS AS WELL.

YEAH, WE'LL, WE WILL GO DOWN THE LIST.

TOM HIGGINS, YOUR FIRST ON THE LIST UNLESS YOU'D LIKE TO JAVIER.

SURE, SURE.

I A GOOD LOCATION FOR HOMES, BUT I ALSO DON'T CARE.

STAY ON THE LAND AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

THE, UH, THE PROPERTY THAT I'M SPEAKING ABOUT, UH, THAT I OWN IS, UH, ADJACENT TO IT, WHERE THE LITTLE SQUARE UP THERE OFF THE, UH, PURPLE THING.

AND, UH, WE WOULD VERY MUCH, AS I SAID, LIKE TO HAVE THIS, UH, 55 ACRES IN HARRIS COUNTY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WAS A A REASON WE ARE IN, WE ARE BARELY IN LEAGUE CITY.

I MEAN, BARELY IN LEAGUE CITY.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH MORE IS LEFT UP THERE OF HARRIS COUNTY, BUT I'M NOT SURE THERE'S A BIG DISTINCTION BETWEEN US BEING LEAGUE CITY, HARRIS COUNTY VERSUS LEAGUE CITY, GALVESTON COUNTY.

WE, WE PAY OUR TAXES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO, TO CARVE OUT THAT 56 ACRES SINCE WE BROUGHT THE, BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN 2000.

UM, THERE HAS BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS ON TRYING TO SELL THE STUFF THAT SURROUNDS US THAT DOES FRONT ON FM 5 28.

IT'S A GOOD PARCEL OF LAND, BUT THEY'VE HAD ZERO SUCCESS MARKETING THAT, AND THERE'S BEEN NOTHING ON THE, UH, THE TRACK THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD 200 HOMES ON.

SO I CAN TELL YOU FOR CERTAIN, IT'S NOT A GOLD RUSH OUT THERE TO GO BUILD COMMERCIAL STUFF.

WE'D LIKE TO GET 200 FAMILIES IN THERE.

IT WOULD HELP OUR BUSINESS.

I THINK IT WOULD HELP THE CHURCH.

AND, UH, THAT'S RIGHT BESIDE US WITH THEIRS.

AND, UH, UH, I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT IT.

WE'LL, HAPPY TO.

THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE TO DEBATE THE REST OF THE STUFF FROM PLANNING, BUT I, I'VE TALKED TO THIS GROUP FOR 25 YEARS NOW.

BACK WHEN YOU WERE A FIRST CONGRESSMAN, I THINK, OR REPRESENTATIVE, I AM, I'M AS PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS AS I WAS GETTING MY OWN PROPERTY REZONED.

I THINK IT'LL BE VERY, VERY GOOD FOR THE CITY.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, MR. MORE MORALE.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS THERE, CHRIS.

UM, SO THE DEVELOPER HERE, UH, HAS HELD THESE, UH, SURROUNDING, UH, ACREAGE 54 ACRES AND THE, UH, ADDITIONAL ACREAGE THAT, UH, CHRISTOPHER, UH, MENTIONED THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE HARRIS COUNTY SIDE AND NOT JUST IN, UH, GALVESTON COUNTY, UH, THE DISTRICT STADIUM THERE WAS PURCHASED FROM THE SAME DEVELOPER AS WELL.

UH, THIS DEVELOPER HAS A LONG HISTORY OF DOING RIGHT BY THE CITY, UM, TRYING TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

SO AS CHRIS MENTIONED, UH, THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THEY WOULD IMPROVE, UH, THE ROAD ON THE WEST SIDE THERE, UH, IN PURPLE.

ADDITIONALLY, IF THE COUNCIL'S NOT AWARE, UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE GYMNASTICS, ALL THAT TO THE NORTH IS ACTUALLY SERVICED BY THE CITY OF WEBSTER ON THE UTILITY SIDE.

SO THE DEVELOPER HAS AGREED THAT WE WOULD BRING ALL THOSE UTILITIES BACK INTO THE CITY OF LEAK CITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT THAT, UH, UM, UH, CHRIS, UH, UH, DID NOT MENTION.

SO AGAIN, DEVELOPERS MAKING A CONCERTED EFFORT TO IMPROVE, UH, AND, AND BRING 'EM BACK INTO CITY SERVICES.

UH,

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ADDITIONALLY, THE REMAINING FRONTAGE, UH, ALONG I 45 IS THE SAME DEVELOPER.

THEY FULLY INTEND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COMMERCIAL WHERE IT MAKES SENSE ALONG I 45 CORRIDOR.

AND WHEN THE FUTURE, UH, ROADWAY EXTENSION CURSED THROUGH THERE.

SO, UM, IT'S BEEN 20 PLUS YEARS.

NO OFFERS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THIS 54 ACRES.

UM, IT'S ABOUT TIME WE DO SOMETHING AND WE BELIEVE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IS THE BEST USE CASE FOR THIS PROPERTY.

WHAT'S THE TARGET PRICE OF THE HOMES? TARGET PRICE WE EXPECT? UM, WELL, DUE TO INTERESTING STUFF, UH, STARTING AT 300 AND MOVING UP.

KAY, HAVANA, LENNAR, UM, DR. HORTON, THAT TYPE OF PRODUCT LINE.

ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? I, MS. DRESSER? ALL RIGHT.

I UNDERSTAND THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S DESIRE TO, TO DO SOMETHING.

I DISAGREE WITH THE PHRASE, IT'S ABOUT TIME TO DO SOMETHING.

UM, WE HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS ALL THE TIME, UH, THAT LEAGUE CITIES GROWING FASTER THAN WE CAN HANDLE.

UM, I'VE SAID ALL ALONG AND, AND ON OTHER PROPERTIES ELSEWHERE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE ZONE FOR COMMERCIAL AS IS.

UM, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT GIVING IT UP.

I LOOK AT WHAT'S GONE IN IN THE LAST, I'LL SAY 15 YEARS.

BETTER MAKE THIS 16.

MY KID'S OLDER THAN I REMEMBERED.

UM, I'VE BEEN DRIVING THAT STRETCH OF ROAD, UH, 'CAUSE MY IN-LAWS USED TO LIVE OUT 5 28 FRIENDSWOOD.

AND, UH, SO I WOULD DRIVE IT EVERY WEEKDAY.

UM, AND THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH THERE FURTHER OFF OF THE HIGHWAY IS A FAIRLY RECENT THING.

SO IT'S GOING TO COME.

YEAH, IT'S, IT'S NOT RIGHT NOW.

UM, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT, AT WHAT WE NEED FOR THE CITY, IT'S MORE COMMERCIAL.

UM, AND HERE WE HAVE A SPOT THAT'S NEAR 45 NEAR OTHER COMMERCIAL.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UM, THE TIMING BEING RIGHT.

UM, I'M NOT WILLING TO GIVE THAT UP.

TIME COUNTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

MR. MORALES, YOU CLAIM THAT, UM, YOU GOT OUTTA THE PROPERTY.

I CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF IT UP IN FRONT OF THE STADIUM, IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALSO? YES, SIR.

AND THAT GOES ALL THE WAY TO 45.

IS THAT WHERE THE LANDING, UH, ROADWAYS GOING THROUGH, I GUESS? UH, YES.

UH, THAT BLACK CURVE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BLUE FIELD OF BLUE, THAT'S A PROPOSED, UH, ROADWAY.

I BELIEVE LAKE CITY AND WEBSTER ALREADY, UH, AGREED TO THAT LAND SWAP AGREEMENT.

I, I WOULD AGREE THAT, UH, WE NEED TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH COMMERCIAL THAT WE CAN IN THE CITY, BUT IF THAT WAS THE CASE, THEN I THINK WE WOULD TAKE THE WEST SIDE DEVELOPMENT COMPLETELY AND MAKE THAT ABOUT A 60% COMMERCIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY INSTEAD OF RESIDENTIAL.

I KNOW THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN SITTING THERE.

PARDON ME? SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION.

WELL, IT'S NOT, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ITS OWN DEBT.

THEY'RE MADE OF? AND UH, YES SIR.

UM, AND I, I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE THAT WE'D NEED TO TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH COMMERCIAL, BUT WE JUST, I THINK TWO MONTHS AGO, THE AREA IN THE YELLOW, WE JUST TOOK THAT OVER FROM FRIENDSWOOD AND MADE THAT A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND NOT ONLY DID WE MAKE THAT A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LOOK AT THE PORTION UP AT THE TOP, UH, THE ACREAGE THAT WE HAVE UP AT THE TOP ON NAS ROAD, ONE THAT'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL.

SO AGAIN, I DIDN'T SEE AT THE TIME STAFF TALKING ABOUT THE 60 40 SPLIT IN HARRIS COUNTY AT THAT TIME.

BUT NEVERTHELESS, I THINK THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR, FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, 40 YEARS, UM, WITH MR. CAMPBELL.

AND IT HAS NOT DEVELOPED INTO A COMMERCIAL BASE.

I THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UM, I I ALSO THINK THAT THE STADIUM, IF, IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE HISTORY IN THIS, MR. CAMPBELL'S THE ONE THAT GAVE THE PROPERTY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO BUILD THE STADIUM, OR HE DIDN'T GIVE ALL THE PROPERTY, BUT HE GAVE SOME OF THE PROPERTY TO THE C-C-I-S-D FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THEREFORE, I, I THINK, UH, FOR US TO USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE TO, UM, SAY THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD LOCATION, IT WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL FOR HIM TO EVER GIVE THE PROPERTY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

UH, THE OTHER THING I LIKE, DO YOU HAVE A, I GUESS YOU DON'T HAVE A PICTURE IN, UH, THE, THE WALLS OF THIS SUBDIVISION.

CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE WALLS AROUND THE SUBDIVISION, WHAT

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THANKS FOR, UH, POINTING THAT OUT.

YES.

UM, SO THERE WILL BE A BARRIER, UH, EIGHT FOOT TALL, UH, STONE MASONRY WALL, UH, LIKE AT, UH, OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS PRODUCED SUCH AS, UH, WESTWOOD SUBDIVISION ON FIVE 18 MAIN STREET.

UM, IT'S A DECORATIVE WALL.

THERE'S LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA.

SO, UH, THERE WILL BE A VISUAL BARRIER AND A SOUND BARRIER BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND DISTRICT STADIUM.

RIGHT, SIR.

SO WITH THE, WITH THE NEW ROADWAY, WHICH IS GONNA BE PAVED, I GUESS, IN, UH, CEMENT, IS THAT CORRECT OR CONCRETE OR DO WE KNOW? UH, WE DON'T KNOW.

IN SPOKEN TO CHRISTOPHER SIMS, UH, IN ENGINEERING, UH, THAT WAS STILL UP FOR DEBATE ON WHETHER THEY WANTED TO DO AN ASPHALT IMPROVEMENT OR WHETHER THEY WANTED TO DO RIGID PAVEMENT CONCRETE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA BE OPENING THE ROAD, IMPROVING THE ROAD, IMPROVING UTILITIES FOR THE CITY, SO FORTH, HAVING THE SOUND BARRIER FOR THE WALL.

UM, IF THE HOUSING ADDITION DOES NOT GO IN, CAN WE PUT APARTMENTS THERE RIGHT NOW WITH THE MIXED USE CLASSIFICATION? UH, RIGHT NOW YOU CANNOT PUT STRICTLY MULTI-FAMILY THERE.

UH, THERE HAS TO BE SPECIAL PROVISIONS WHERE THE ENTIRE FIRST FLOOR HAS TO BE, UM, CORRECT.

COMMERCIAL.

YOU CAN PUT MULTIFAMILY, YOU CAN PUT MULTIFAMILY RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM, JUST LIKE ANYWHERE ELSE UNDER THAT SPECIFIC SCENARIO.

THAT'S, THAT WAS MY POINT.

THANK YOU TOM CRUISE.

SO MY QUESTION IS REALLY MORE FOR, FOR STAFF.

AND WHILE WE'RE HAVING THIS, UM, THE PLAN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL COMMENTS AND WE WANNA HOLD ONTO AS MUCH COMMERCIAL ZONING AS AS WE CAN.

WHAT, WHAT IS IT? I MEAN, IT'D BE KIND OF NICE IF SCOTT WAS HERE, BUT WHAT IS IT THAT WE FORESEE A GOOD FIT THERE? BECAUSE TO ME, IF IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR THAT LONG, I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST USES TO, TO WHAT IS OUR PLAN FOR THAT AREA, IF JUST TO LEAVE IT BLANK AND HAVE NO TAXES COMING IN.

SURE.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT FITS IN FITS INTO COMMERCIAL MIXED USE? YEAH, COMMERCIAL MIXED USE ALLOWS A, A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES, UM, INCLUDING WHAT, WHAT TOMMY MENTIONED, IF YOU HAVE APARTMENTS, BUT RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR, ACTUALLY ALL OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS OUTSIDE OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS DO ALLOW FOR THAT.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE RIGHT NOW, THE ACCESS IS KIND OF LIMITED.

YOU HAVE LIMITED TRAFFIC.

SO WE WOULDN'T ANTICIPATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING TOMORROW.

UM, BUT THERE IS GONNA BE ADDITIONAL ROADWAY EXPANSION.

YOU HAVE LANDING BOULEVARD COMING TO THE EAST, WHICH IS GOING TO HOOK UP TO THE NORTH SIDE OF THIS.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BEAMER EXTENDING TO THE WEST AND HITTING GRISSOM AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.

SO I, I CAN'T NECESSARILY TELL YOU WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD AS FAR AS WHAT WOULD GET DEVELOPED THERE.

UM, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE AT, AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, COMMERCIAL WOULD BE VIABLE THERE.

SO TO THE QUESTION, WHAT CAN YOU PUT IN COMMERCIAL MIXED USE? SURE.

YOU CAN DO ANYTHING FROM RETAIL OFFICES, FLEX OFFICE AREA, UM, PERSONAL SERVICES, STRIP MALLS, UM, AN HEB, UM, ANYTHING YOU SEE UP AND DOWN THE FREEWAY THERE, UM, COULD GO THERE AT COSTCO SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE, UM, JUST ADJACENT TO THIS UP AND DOWN THE FREEWAY.

COULD RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT ROAD ITSELF JUST GETTING IN AND OUT WHEN YOU GO TO THE BALLPARK OR WHEN YOU GO TO THE GAMES, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE.

SO IF WE WERE TO ADD THIS 270 HOMES, HOW WOULD THAT GET BETTER? OR WOULD IT JUST, I KNOW THAT WE SAID WE'RE GONNA ADD ANOTHER ACCESS, BUT I DON'T, I JUST DON'T SEE THIS HELPING.

YEAH, I MEAN I THINK ANYTHING YOU ADD HERE, WHETHER IT'S COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL, IS GOING TO ADD TRAFFIC.

UM, SO COMMERCIAL TYPICALLY ADDS MORE TRAFFIC TO AN AREA THAN RESIDENTIAL.

UM, IN, IN GENERAL TERMS. UM, SO EITHER WAY THERE'S GONNA BE MORE TRAFFIC I THINK OVER TIME AS THE ADDITIONAL ROADWAYS COME IN.

UM, SO THAT I MENTIONED LANDING BEAMER, UM, AND THE EXPANSION OF THE ROADWAYS IN THE AREA, UM, THAT TRAFFIC WILL BE DIVERTED FROM THIS SPECIFIC ROADWAY, UM, WEST NASA.

UM, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, ANYTHING GOING THERE IS GONNA INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.

SO MUCH SO THAT SOME HAVE ASKED TO REMOVE THE STOP SIGNS ON SOUTH SHORE BOULEVARD TO AVOID ENGINES RACING BEHIND THEIR HOUSE.

YES, SIR.

MR. RESLER, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE, THE, UH, MASON MARINE WALLS SURROUNDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MASON MARINE WALLS.

MY HOUSE BACKS UP TO SOUTH SHORE BOULEVARD.

I DON'T MIND IT 'CAUSE I HAVE THREE DOGS AND THREE KIDS.

YOU'RE NOT DROWNING THAT NOISE OUT WITH ANYTHING, EVEN A, AN OLD DIESEL OR A BACKFIRING SEVENTIES PICKUP.

UM, BUT MOST OF MY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN WEEKLY ABOUT THE NOISE OF SOUTH SHORE BOULEVARD.

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THOSE MASONRY WALLS AREN'T KEEPING OUT.

THE NOISE OF VEHICLES THAT ARE FURTHER FROM MY HOUSE, UM, ON SOUTH SHORE THAN THIS ROAD WILL BE FROM THESE HOUSES.

AND THE STADIUM BEAM RIGHT THERE, UM, IS A NOISE SOURCE LIKE NONE OTHER.

UM, YOU'RE NOT KEEPING IT OUT WITH AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY WALL.

UH, WHEN THEY GET THOSE BANDS GOING FRIDAY NIGHT FOR THE FOOTBALL GAMES, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE LOUD.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT RSF SEVEN HEARINGS INSTEAD OF SOMETHING WITH LARGER LOTS.

AND WHY WE'RE CALLING 'EM STARTER HOMES, GOODNESS, 300 THOUSANDS A STARTER HOME NOW, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER STORY.

UM, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT HIGHER END HOMES.

UH, MR. BAUMGARTNER, WHEN I FIRST STARTED ON CITY COUNCIL, WE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION, UM, ON THE DAIS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD REFER TO, UM, WHAT WE CALL THE BREAK EVEN POINT ON THE VALUE OF A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, UM, TO PAY FOR THE COST OF SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED, UM, BASED ON THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE GENERATED.

I THINK AROUND THE TIME I STARTED ON COUNCIL, WHICH WAS FIVE YEARS AGO, THAT WAS OVER $250,000 GIVEN THE RATE OF INFLATION, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT'S WELL BEYOND $300,000 NOW.

UH, HAVE WE UPDATED THAT NUMBER AT ANY POINT, MR. BAUMGARTNER? I'M LOOKING TO ANGIE AND SHE'S KEEPING HER HEAD DOWN.

SO HAVE WE UPDATED KIND OF THE BREAK EVEN POINT? WHAT'S OUR, DO YOU KNOW OUR AVERAGE HOUSE VALUE LAST YEAR? NO.

SAY IT WAS LIKE 2 75 OR TWO FIVE.

SO WE, WE HAVEN'T FORMALLY UPDATED IT, BUT IT RUNS SOMEWHERE CLOSE TO THE AVERAGE.

SO SOMEWHERE IN THE 300 TO JUST ABOVE 300.

SO WE'RE STARTING AT NOT BREAKING EVEN.

WELL, IF THE AVERAGE WAS TWO 70, THEN THE, THE AVERAGE, BUT THE BREAK EVEN IS, IS A LITTLE ABOVE THAT IT SOUNDS.

UM, BUT IN EITHER CASE, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HOMES THAT ARE ADDING, UM, REVENUE DENSITY TO OUR COMMUNITY, UM, FOR THE AMOUNT OF SERVICES THEY'RE REQUIRING.

UM, WHEREAS THE LITTLE PATIENTS, UM, AS THOSE OTHER ROADWAYS COME IN, AS THE REST OF THAT AREA BUILDS OUT, THIS WILL BE VIABLE AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

MAY I RESPOND TO A FEW POINTS? UH, BUT AS I SEE IT, I MEAN, I GUESS I TAKE A DIFFERENT STANCE ON IT.

UH, SO A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS ON IT.

I AM NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE FROM THE STADIUM IMPACTING THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE SIMPLY IF YOU'RE BUYING A HOME THERE, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE STADIUM'S THERE, I MEAN IT'S, IT LITERALLY, IT'S NOT HIDDEN.

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

RIGHT? AND SO I LIVE NEXT TO THE OTHER DISTRICT STADIUM AND UH, HEAR IT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN DEFINITELY HEAR IT, BUT IT'S NOT THAT BAD.

UH, SO I'M, YOU KNOW, IF YOU BUY A HOUSE THERE, I THINK THAT'S JUST A, A RISK THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO TAKE.

I'M PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE INGRESS EGRESS BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S TWO WAYS IN AND OUT, ESSENTIALLY THERE'S, THERE'S ONE WAY, RIGHT? THERE'S STILL REALLY ONE IT ALL BOTTLENECKS OVER THERE.

SO I WOULD THINK WE'D NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.

UH, IF WE GO TO THE ZOOMED OUT VIEW REAL QUICK.

DISTRICT ALREADY, SO IT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

SO, AND AS WE LOOK AT IT AND AS WE LOOK AT WHERE THE BRIDGES ARE COMING IN AND, UH, LANDING BOULEVARD FARTHER TO THE WEST, THIS IS STILL PRETTY FAR OFF 5 28 AND PRETTY FAR OFF I 45.

I I, I DOUBT A BIG BOX STORE IS GONNA GO IN HERE.

I MEAN, MAYBE YOU COULD DO SOME KIND OF LITTLE OFFICES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT FOR ANY KIND OF MAJOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, I, I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

AND I, I COULD SEE WHY SOMEBODY WOULD WANNA PUT IN HOMES IN THAT 300 TO, YOU KNOW, 3 25 RANGE.

'CAUSE THERE SIMPLY ISN'T MANY THAT YOU CAN GET IN CLEAR CREEK ISD NOW AT THAT RANGE.

SO I THINK IT'S A FAIRLY REASONABLE REQUEST.

I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO WORK OUT AND, AND REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW, WHAT THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS LOOK LIKE AND HOW WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT INGRESS EGRESS WORK A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

BUT, UH, I KIND OF PUT THAT BACK ON STAFF.

SO GENERALLY I, I THINK I SUPPORT IT, UH, WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE CLARITY ON THAT.

I, ANY MUD OR PUD REQUEST COMING ALONG WITH THAT.

UH, OF COURSE, UM, UH, THIS HAS BEEN ANNEXED INTO A MANAGEMENT

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IT'S BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

WE'RE STILL ON, WE'RE STILL ON THE HEARING.

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON ORDINANCE REZONING, APPROXIMATELY 54.761 ACRES FROM CM COMMERCIAL MIXED USE TO R SF SEVEN RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY SEVEN MAP DASH 24 DASH 0 0 0 1 SONOMA AND WEST NASA TRACK GENERALLY LOCATED ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF WEST OLD NASSAU ROAD AND ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF WEST NASA BOULEVARD PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FAILED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL 4 4 0 ON MARCH 18TH, 2024.

I GUESS ONE LAST QUESTION.

UH, I DON'T SEE DETENTION.

WHERE IS THE DETENTION HAPPENING? UH, YES.

FAIR.

UH, THE DETENTION IS PROVIDED FOR BY THE C-C-I-S-D DETENTION POND, WHICH IS GOING TO BE EXPANDED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS AND ALSO THE FUTURE ROADWAY DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS UPON SALE TO THE DISTRICT DETENTION WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT PROVIDED FOR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

AT 6 46, THIS PUBLIC HEARING WILL CLOSE.

[7B. 24-0157 Consider and take action on an ordinance rezoning approximately 54.7610 acres from “CM” (Commercial Mixed Use) to “RSF-7” (Residential Single Family 7), MAP-24-0001 (Sonoma / West Nasa Tract), generally located along the east side of West Old Nasa Road and along the west side of West Nasa Boulevard (Director of Planning)]

MR. MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND.

TOM, I, I'M OKAY WITH THIS.

I, THE ONLY THING I HAVE IS I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BEFORE WE MAKE THIS THING WORSE, AND SO MAYOR, YOU, YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN ACTUALLY FIX THIS TRAFFIC PROBLEM BEFORE WE BUILD HOMES THERE? THIS HAS TO BE, SOMEBODY KNOWS WAY MORE ABOUT IT THAN ME, MR. BAUMGARTNER.

WELL, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH CLEARFIELD AND I DON'T KNOW IF I APPRECIATE EXACTLY HOW THEIR ROAD SYSTEM WILL INTEGRATE WITH THE ASPHALT ROAD AND MAYBE EITHER CHRIS OR CHRISTOPHER CAN HELP CLARIFY SOME OF THAT.

'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME ROAD CONNECTION GOING THAT WAY.

SO I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER BEFORE THIS GOES IN, IF THIS GETS APPROVED, I'LL SAY TONIGHT, THEY'RE SIGNIFICANTLY FURTHER AHEAD THAN CLEARFIELD WHO OWNS THE LAND TO THE WEST AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR OWN LAND PLAN.

SO CLEARFIELD TODAY IS THE LAND THAT'S SHOWN IN RED, GREEN, AND YELLOW TO THE WEST OF THE TRACK.

SO YES SIR.

AND, UM, AS OF NOW WITH THE CLEARFIELD, UM, AGAIN, THEY'VE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO US, IT'S STILL UNDER REVIEW, THERE'S STILL NEGOTIATION GOING ON, BUT THEY DO SHOW ONE CONNECTION TO WEST NASA.

AND SO WHICHEVER DEVELOPMENT WORKED, OR I'M SORRY, OLD NASA ROAD, WHICHEVER DEVELOPMENT WERE TO COME FIRST, WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING SOME OF THOSE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ON OLD NASA.

BUT FROM A, FROM A TRAFFIC IS JAMMED UP ON WEST NASSAU, A BACKDOOR EXIT WOULD COME THROUGH POTENTIALLY THROUGH THE CLEARFIELD TRACK TO SOME EXTENSION OF BEMER.

BUT POTENTIALLY, UM, PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN GENERAL WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE TIA FOR BOTH ENTITIES.

CLEARFIELD? YES SIR.

FOR CLEARFIELD AND, AND THIS TRACK HERE.

SO THERE WOULD BE SOME LOOK AT HOW YOU INTEGRATE INTO, UH, 5 28 WITH THE EXISTING ROADS AND THEN LONG TERM INTEGRATION.

AND THEN I KNOW THE, I'LL SAY THE WESTERN EXTENSION OF WHAT WE CALL THE LANDING EXTENSION.

YES SIR.

2 5 28.

THAT'S A WEBSTER PROJECT.

DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THAT? 'CAUSE THAT WOULD PROVIDE ANOTHER WAY TO GET INTO THE STADIUM PROPERTY TOO.

I'M SORRY, I I DON'T HAVE A TIMEFRAME ON THAT ONE.

I I THOUGHT THEY WERE SLIGHTLY BEHIND US.

THEY'RE SLIGHTLY BEHIND US.

I JUST DUNNO HOW FAR.

YEAH, SO ALL OF THOSE, YOU KNOW, TODAY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS CONTINUE TO WORK AND ULTIMATELY WILL BETTER INTEGRATE THE SURFACE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

SO, SO CHRIS, IF THIS WERE TO, TO GO THROUGH WITH ALL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND THESE THINGS, WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF BECAUSE OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS? BECAUSE I WENT, THE LAST TIME I WENT THERE WAS MY, MY DAUGHTER'S GRADUATION.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT TRAFFIC WAS JUST A COMPLETE DISASTER AND NIGHTMARE AND I JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS THING WORSE.

THAT'S A LITTLE, LITTLE DIFFICULT TO ANSWER IF IT'S BETTER OR, OR WORSE.

UH, ON AVERAGE, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS GONNA AVERAGE ABOUT 10 TRIPS A DAY.

UM, YOU KNOW, EVERY, EVERYBODY'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT ON THAT'S THE, THE NATIONWIDE AVERAGE.

UM, I THINK THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY FOR THAT ON NASA, BUT OLD NASA,

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UH, PROBABLY NOT.

THAT'S WHAT JAVIER WAS REFERRING TO.

UH, WE'VE DONE SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS WHERE THEY WOULD IMPROVE, UH, ROADWAYS TO, TO OUR CURRENT STANDARD.

UH, THE TWO THAT COME TO MIND, WE'RE DOING ONE, WE DID ONE WITH THE, I BELIEVE IT'S THE SEMINOLE GAS STATION OUT ON 2094, ALMOST ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF TOWN.

THEY TOOK AN OLD ASPHALT ROAD, IMPROVED THE INTERSECTION TO 2094, AND THEN, UH, MADE THE ROAD CONCRETE THE LIMITS OF THEIR DRIVE, UH, LIMITS OF THEIR PROPERTY.

THE OTHER ONE IS, UM, TOWN HARBOR OFF OF LAKESIDE DRIVE, WHERE THEY'RE TAKING AN ASPHALT ROAD, UM, WIDENING IT AND, AND COMING BACK WITH CONCRETE.

AND BOTH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, WE TOOK THE COST THAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD PAY FOR MILL AND OVERLAY TO REPAIR THOSE ROADS.

AND THAT WAS CREDITED BACK TO THE DEVELOPER AS A, AS A CREDIT FOR THE IMPROVEMENT.

PEOPLE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS CONSCIOUSLY.

FROM A, FROM A ROAD CAPACITY PERSPECTIVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CERTAINLY FRIDAY NIGHTS F FRIDAY FOOTBALL NIGHTS, THOSE ROADS HAVE SIGNIFICANT CAPACITY.

IF YOU LOOK AT 220 HOMES IS ABOUT 2200 TRIPS, UH, TRIPS A DAY, YOU KNOW, A TWO LANE ROADWAY WOULD HAVE CAPACITY IN THE 8,000 RANGE.

AND SO THEY'RE, WELL, WELL BELOW THAT AGAIN, FRIDAY NIGHT, CERTAINLY I'VE BEEN OUT TO THE STADIUM IS INCONVENIENT AND, AND I THINK IS COUNCIL MEMBER, SOME, ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTED OBVIOUSLY THE STADIUM, YOU KNOW, SITS OUT THERE.

IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO I GET HOME? YEAH, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW DO I GET OUTTA MY HOUSE ON FRIDAY NIGHT? YOU CAN GO, YOU KNOW, EITHER SOUTH OR NORTH, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.