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[1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS]

[00:00:06]

SORRY.

WE HAVE A, A SPECIAL DEAL WE HAVE TO DO NOW WE CAN GO TO THE REAL AGENDA.

MAYBE THE QUICKEST MEETING YOU'VE EVER HAD.

I KNOW I HAD TO LITERALLY WAIT FOR IT TO GO TO 6 0 1 JUST SO WE CAN HAVE DIFFERENT TIMES ON IT.

ALRIGHT.

THE CITY COUNCIL, THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY TEXAS WILL NOW COME TO ORDER IN A REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 26TH, 2023 AT 6:01 PM UH, ROLL CALL ANY MAN HERE.

TOMMY CONES HERE.

TOM CRUISE.

HERE.

JOHN BOWEN? HERE.

JUSTIN HICKS.

YES, SIR.

CHAD TRESSLER.

HERE.

SEAN SAUNDERS HERE.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR ROB BAILEY WITH SOUTH LAKE CHURCH, WHO WILL BE OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER THIS EVENING.

PASTOR, MY NAME IS PASTOR ROB BAILEY OF SOUTH LAKE CHURCH HERE IN LAKE CITY AND IS AN HONOR TO DO THE INVOCATION TODAY.

NOW I AM A CHRISTIAN PASTOR, SO WHEN I PRAY AND SPEAK I DO TALK ABOUT AND IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

BUT I REALIZE PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDINGS OF GOD AND HOW YOU WORSHIP.

SO AS I PRAY, I'M WELCOME YOU TO TAKE TIME JUST TO MEDITATE OR JUST BE IN PRAYER.

HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE BEGIN THIS WONDERFUL CITY COUNCIL MEETING COMING TOGETHER, IT IS A JOY THAT WE TAKE TIME JUST TO PROCLAIM IN JUST THE HISTORY OF THE WINFIELD FAMILY TODAY AND JUST MAY IT BE A CELEBRATION AND A JOY.

AND LORD, AS YOU LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER ACTIVITIES AND THINGS WE'LL BE DISCUSSING TODAY, I JUST ASK FOR A PRAYER OF PEACE AND CALM ON THE HEARTS OF ALL AS WE WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS ONE OF THE GREATEST CITIES IN OUR NATION.

IN JESUS NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

AMEN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO JULY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE TEXAS FLAG.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEDGE.

ALLITY, TEXAS.

ONE STATE.

NO GOD.

ONE.

INDIVISIBLE.

ALRIGHT, WELL, AND FIRST OFF I WANNA SAY SORRY FOR, FOR NO JACKET OR SUIT TONIGHT.

I HAD A SEVENTH GRADE FOOTBALL GAME TO ATTEND TO AND I WAS PRETTY SURE I'D SWEAT THROUGH THAT SUIT IF I, IF I WORE ONE OUT THERE.

BUT WE'LL

[3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]

GO TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES.

SEPTEMBER 12TH, 2023.

THEY'RE HEARING NO CORRECTIONS.

THESE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

[6K. 23-0408 Consider and take action on a resolution to name the proposed East-West roadway that will connect Landing Boulevard and Maple Leaf known as “New Road B” in the 2018 Master Mobility Plan as Winfield Parkway (Council Member Cones and Council Member Hicks)]

AND THEN YES SIR.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE UP, UH, SIX K FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA.

I'LL SECOND, UH, TO MOVE SIX K OFF THE CONSENT AGENDA AHEAD OF FOUR A.

IS THERE ANY, ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK ON THAT? IF NOT, LET'S VOTE.

SHOW OF HANDS TO APPROVE.

ALRIGHT, THAT STANDS UNANIMOUS.

SIX K.

CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION TO NAME THE PROPOSED EAST WEST ROADWAY THAT WILL CONNECT LANDING BOULEVARD AND MAPLE LEAF, CURRENTLY KNOWN AS NEW ROAD B IN THE 2018 MASTER MOBILITY PLAN AS WINFIELD PARKWAY.

MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND .

ANYBODY ON THE QUEUE FOR IT? IF NOT, PLEASE VOTE.

HANDS.

WE'LL DO HANDS AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, THERE'S MAYOR HANDS.

MAYOR, POINT OF ORDER.

COULD WE GO THROUGH THE SLIDES JUST REAL QUICK? YES.

SHOW WHERE THE ROAD IS AT? ABSOLUTELY.

LET'S GO THROUGH THE SIDES OF THE FAMILY.

WOULD YOU SPEAK TO IT, JOHN? ME? YEAH.

MR. BERG.

THANK YOU, SIR.

SO, UM, AS WE LOOKED AT THE WINFIELD ROAD PROJECT AND WE TALKED ABOUT PERHAPS REMOVING THE CONNECTOR BETWEEN I 45 AND HOBBS ROAD FROM THE C I P, UM, CHRISTOPHER SIMS, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING, HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE CITY AND IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, A MAJOR COLLECTOR MINOR ARTERIAL ROADWAY THAT CONNECTS FROM LANDING BOULEVARD TO MAPLE LEAF.

SO THAT'S, UM, SOUTH OF MULDOON PARKWAY, NORTH OF, UM, UH, FM FIVE 17.

AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT HAD APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF SIGNIFICANCE AND PERHAPS IT WILL GO PAST MAPLE LEAF, BUT TODAY WE KNOW THAT IT GOES, CROSSES THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS DOWN THERE IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, UH, REQUEST AND HAVE AGREED IF COUNCIL SUPPORTED IT TO NAME THE ROAD, UM, WINFIELD PARKWAY.

AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW THAT CAME ABOUT.

AND I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, CONES AND HICKS HICKS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED THAT AND PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT.

UM, I THINK OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS IT'LL GET BUILT IN PIECES.

IT WON'T BE ONE MAJOR

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ROADWAY ACROSS THE CITY ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD, THEY'RE WORKING BOTH ON THE EAST END OF IT, CLOSE TO LANDING BOULEVARD, AND THEN ON THE WEST END OF IT CLOSE TO MAPLE LEAF.

AND SO WE'LL START SEEING PIECES COME TOGETHER AND WHEN WE GET READY TO OPEN A SECTION, WE'LL LET THE FAMILY KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AND MAYBE DO SOME SORT OF RIBBON CUTTING, IF THAT'S APPROPRIATE AT THAT TIME.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

AND THEN I WANTED TO POINT OUT, UH, MAYOR PAT HALLEY'S HERE.

HE'S THE ONE THAT KIND OF SPEARHEADED THIS, UH, ORIGINALLY AND SO GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE TO SEE IT THROUGH.

MA'AM, I THINK WE ALREADY VOTED, BUT LET'S THROW 'EM UP ONE MORE TIME.

ONE MORE VOTE FOR THE RECORD.

YES, YAYS.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST

[4. PROCLAMATIONS, PRESENTATIONS, AWARDS, AND COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT]

PROCLAMATIONS PRESENTATIONS AND AWARDS PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION AND RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE WINFIELD FAMILY TO THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY.

AND I WILL, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME UP, I'LL START READING THIS AS WELL.

THE PROCLAMATION READS, WHEREAS ALEXANDER WINFIELD WAS BORN ON MAY 9TH, 1847 IN SUSSEX COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

AND WHEREAS ALEXANDER FOUGHT IN THE CIVIL WAR, THEN ENLISTED IN THE REGULAR ARMY ON JULY 11TH, 8 18 67 AS A BUFFALO SOLDIER, FIRST IN THE 41ST INFANTRY, AND THEN IN THE 24TH INFANTRY AFTER CONSOLIDATION OF THE RES, UH, REGIMENTS BEFORE BEING HONORABLY DISCHARGED JULY 11TH, 1870.

AND WHEREAS HE MOVED TO LEAGUE CITY IN 1902 AND WAS ONE OF THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICANS TO SETTLE IN THE AREA.

AND WHEREAS ALEXANDER PURCHASED 40 ACRES OF LAND IN THE STEPHEN F. AUSTIN LEAGUE NUMBER THREE IN 1904 AND OWN THE LAND FREE AND CLEAR BY 1910, NEVER MISSING A PAYMENT.

AND WHEREAS THE 40 ACRES WAS KNOWN AS THE WINFIELD SETTLEMENT.

AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY AND RECOGNITION OF THE HONOR AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF MR. ALEXANDER WINFIELD AND TO PRESERVE THE WINFIELD FAMILY HISTORY IN LEAGUE CITY IS NAMING THE NEW ROAD CONNECTING LANDING BOULEVARD TO MAPLE LEAF AS WINFIELD PARKWAY.

NOW THEREFORE, I NICK LONG BY THE VIRTUE OF THE AUTHORITY BEST IN ME AS THE 11TH MAYOR OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY IN WITNESS THEREOF HERE UNTO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE GREAT SEAL OF THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY TO BE AFFIXED ON THIS 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2023.

LOOK AT THAT EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY'S CONGRATULATIONS.

HEY, UH, MAYOR, MS. CONRAD WANTED TO SAY ONE THING.

ABSOLUTELY.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO MS. CON? YES MA'AM.

GO UP HERE, MS. CONRAD, TO THE SPEAKER.

THAT'S FINE.

COOL.

I WON'T EVEN TAKE A WHOLE THREE MINUTES.

I WANT TO, FIRST OF ALL, TO THANK THE CITY, TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO SUPPORTED THIS, BUT I HAVE TO THANK THE MAN WHO HEARD THE STORY AND WHO GRABBED IT AND RAN WITH IT AS A GOOD IRISHMAN WOULD DO FOR A GOOD STORY, MAYOR PAT HALLEY.

BUT TO THE CURRENT COUNCIL, IT IS SO APPRECIATED.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN COES.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN HICKS.

IT IS SO APPRECIATED AND IT FEELS GOOD TO BE SEEN AND IT FEELS GOOD TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

UH, LAKE CITY IS THE, IS A BIG CITY TO ME RIGHT NOW AND WE APPRECIATE IT SO MUCH FOR CORRECTING SOMETHING THAT WENT AS AN OVERSIGHT FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AND WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO RIDING ON WINFIELD PARKWAY.

, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S A NICE SIGN.

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NOW YOU'RE GONNA FIGHT OVER WHO GETS THAT SIGN? .

YEAH.

YEAH, I THINK, I THINK WE KNOW WHO'S GETTING IT.

THIS IS FOR THE FAMILY .

I LIKE IT.

[5. PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL]

ALRIGHT, NOW, PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL.

MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO GIVE COMMENTS AT THIS TIME LASTING NO LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES.

COMMENTS MAY BE GENERAL IN NATURE OR MAY ADDRESS A SPECIFIC AGENDA.

ITEM FIRST ONE ON THE LIST.

JEFF MORELO.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

JEFF MORELLO FROM 2,800 EAST LAKE CITY PARKWAY.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WINFIELD FAMILY.

I KNOW Y'ALL HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THIS DONE AND IT'S, AND I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS A LARGE TOWN, BUT YOU MADE IT FEEL A LITTLE SMALLER TODAY.

UH, .

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST TALK ABOUT, UM, THE LIBRARY.

UH, I KNOW BIG SHOCKER.

UM, BUT THERE WAS, AT THE LIBRARY BOARD MEETING LAST TUESDAY, I WANT TO SAY, UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT IMPLEMENTING A NEW FINE, UH, NOT A NEW FINE, A NEW FEE FOR ROOM RESERVATIONS.

UH, $25 FOR THE BOARD ROOM, $80 FOR THE, UM, THEATER ROOM, WHICH IS FINE.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THE OTHER ROOMS AT THE, AT THE, UM, UH, CIVIC CENTER HAS, UM, ALL THE OTHER ROOMS THAT AT THE CIVIC CENTER HAVE FEES THAT ASSOCIATED WITH THEM TOO.

BUT I FEEL THAT THE LIBRARY IS SORT OF A SPECIAL PLACE.

YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, THEY GOT RID OF THE FINES FROM AN OVERDUE BOOK.

UH, IT'S BECOMING MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE, UH, $25 OR $85 TO THROW AROUND.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND YOU THAT THE TAXPAYERS DO ALREADY PAY FOR THE LIBRARY ROOMS THROUGH OUR PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAX AND WHATEVER OTHER TAX WE'LL WANNA THROW IN THERE.

UM, SO IT KIND OF FEELS LIKE WE'RE BEING DOUBLE LIKE WE'RE BEING, UM, A LITTLE UNFAIR TO THE PEOPLE WHO NEED, UM, HELP THE MOST.

YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I, UH, SAID, UM, HOMESCHOOL MOTHERS USED TO USE SOME OF THE ROOMS FOR, UH, LESSONS PLANNINGS, HIGH SCHOOLERS USE SOME OF THE ROOMS FOR STUDYING, UM, CLUBS, USE IT TO MEET THERE AND OTHER SORTS OF LIKE, COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY TO THROW AROUND.

AND WHILE LIKE, I GET IT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PAY TO KEEP THE LIGHTS ON, BUT THE LIGHTS ARE GONNA BE ON ANYWAY, THE ROOMS ARE GONNA BE AIR CONDITIONED ANYWAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THESE ROOMS, UM, TREATED A LITTLE MORE OPENLY AND A LITTLE MORE, UM, UH, COMMU, UH, LIKE A LITTLE MORE TOWARDS THE COMMUNITY.

I, UH, I'M SORRY, I'VE COMPLETELY LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

UM, I WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF MAYBE LIKE, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL GROUPS, YOU KNOW, ONES INVOLVING HIGH SCHOOLERS AND OTHER SORTS OF LIKE, GROUPS THAT REALLY DO HAVE NO SORT OF FINANCIAL BACKING OR ANY KIND OF LIKE FINANCIAL, LIKE NATURE IN GENERAL BESIDES LIKE THE ODD BAKE SALE OR WHATEVER SHOULD GET TO USE LIKE, THE LIBRARY ROOMS FOR FREE.

ESPECIALLY IF IT'S RELATING TO THINGS LIKE EDUCATION OR BOOKS OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, TEENS AND STUFF.

I FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE AFFECTED THE MOST BY IT.

ADULTS, I CAN PAY $25, I CAN PAY $85 TO USE A LIBRARY ROOM, BUT IT'S REALLY THEM THAT I WORRY ABOUT.

AND THEY SAID THAT, OH, BUT IT'S OKAY.

YOU CAN GO IN IF THE ROOMS NOT IN USE, YOU CAN USE IT FOR FREE.

BUT THAT'S STILL KIND OF LIKE NOT A GOOD PLANNING DECISION.

YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU GO TO THE LIBRARY AND EXPECT THE ROOM TO BE FREE FOR YOU TO USE, UM, IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY USING IT.

UH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE WHOLE REASON WHY WE HAVE A ROOM RESERVATION SYSTEM IN PLACE IS SO YOU KNOW THAT THAT ROOM IS GONNA BE THERE FOR YOU.

BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN BEEPED.

UM, I, I ALSO LIKE TO SAY, UM, 10 A, UM, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

WE, WE COULD ALWAYS USE ANOTHER FIRE STATION.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FIRE.

UM, WE HAVE SOME OF THE BEST FIREFIGHTERS IN THE STATE.

DEFINITELY SOME OF THE BEST IN THE AREA.

UH, I THINK IT'D BE NICE.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR.

MONICA MILKEN.

MONICA MILLIKEN.

MONICA MILLIKEN.

MONICA MILLIKEN PLANTATION STREET.

I VOLUNTEERED FOR THE ANIMAL SHELTER SINCE 2007.

SOMETHING HAPPENED TODAY THAT MAKES ME REALIZE MY INVOLVEMENT WITH THE SHELTER IS JEOPARDIZING THE WELFARE AND THE ANIMALS AND THE SUCCESS OF THE SHELTER.

THIS IS THE VERY THING I HAVE WORKED FOR.

YOU HAVE BEEN CONVINCED I HAVE A VENDETTA OR A GRUDGE AGAINST JASMINE O'KEEFE, THE CURRENT SHELTER DIRECTOR.

SHE'S HAD THREE YEARS TO SPIN HER STORY AND GET YOU TO BELIEVE HER AND TO SEE ME AS THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF HER.

I KNOW NOW I HAVE LOST THE RESPECT OF EVERY ONE OF YOU.

THE MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER, THE COUNCIL, THE CITY

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ATTORNEY, AND SARAH OSBORNE, THE COMMUNICATION MANAGER FOR THE CITY.

BUT I'M NOT THE ONE THAT'S CHANGED.

I'M THE SAME PERSON WHOSE ORGANIZATION RECEIVED A PROCLAMATION FROM THE COUNCIL FEATURED IN THE LEAGUE CITY LOCAL AND, AND GOT AN AWARD, A COMMUNITY CHAMPION AWARD FROM THE DAILY NEWS.

ALL MY EFFORTS HAVE BEEN FOR THE ANIMALS.

IT HAS GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE EVERYONE'S ANGER WITH ME HAS DESTROYED THEIR ABILITY TO BE OBJECTIVE AND TO PROTECT THE ANIMALS.

TODAY, THE MAYOR SENT AN EMAIL TO A CITIZEN SAYING, YOU ARE DEAD WRONG.

THE T N R POLICY WAS IMPLEMENTED AT THE REQUEST OF MONICA MILLIKEN, WHO SPOKE IN FAVOR OF IT AT BOTH READINGS OF THE ORDINANCE.

FURTHERMORE, BOTH READINGS OCCURRED AT A POSTED PUBLIC MEETING WITH OPEN COMMENT ALLOWED.

BUT THAT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE YOU SEE THE T N R ORDINANCE PASSED ON FIRST AND FINAL READING AND THE T N R ORDINANCE WAS PUT UP BY THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, NOT ME.

IN ANOTHER EMAIL THAT HE WROTE, HE SAID THAT I HAD WRITTEN NUMEROUS EMAILS ASKING FOR A T N R POLICY THAT WOULD RELEASE FRIENDLY CATS.

THE COMMITTEE APPROVED THE T N R ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT WAS FOR UNSOCIALIZED, FERAL KAZ WHO WERE UNADOPTABLE AND IT WAS PUT IN PLACE INSTEAD OF KILLING THE FERAL CATS.

KILLING IS WHAT YOU DO WHEN AN ANIMAL IS IS ADOPTABLE.

IT'S NOT EUTHANASIA.

SO TO KILL THE FERAL CATS WAS WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO AVOID.

NOT THE FRIENDLY CATS.

ADOPTABLE CATS WERE NEVER DISCUSSED IN ANY OF THE MEETINGS THAT OCCURRED ON THE T N R PROGRAM.

THE CITIZENS ARE OUTRAGED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE SHELTER IS RELEASING ADOPTABLE CATS.

IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FERAL CATS.

EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THE T N R ORDINANCE AS IT WAS DONE AS IT WAS WRITTEN, BUT IT'S FRIENDLY CATS THAT ARE BEING RELEASED.

SO YOU CAN TRASH MY REPUTATION.

IT'S OKAY, PD DID IT BACK IN 2011 WHEN I GOT THE ORDINANCES CHANGED SO THAT THE SHELTER COULDN'T KILL THE ANIMALS.

AFTER 10 DAYS, I CAN HANDLE IT, BUT FOR GOD'S SAKES, TAKE CARE OF THE ANIMALS BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

SUE TON.

I'M SUE TON.

I LIVE AT 2 3 8 3 YOUR HARBOR COURT.

AS A MEMBER OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND CURRENT CHAIR, I WOULD'VE NEVER SUPPORTED SENDING THE CURRENT T N R ORDINANCE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL.

IF I'D KNOWN IT WOULD BECOME AN R T F PROGRAM.

WHAT IS BEING IMPLEMENTED NOW IS NOT T N R, WHICH IS WHAT WE THE CITIZENS ON THE COMMITTEE HAD INTENDED.

WE'RE ALL VERY PROUD OF OUR CITY WITH THE T N R ORDINANCE WAS PASSED BY COUNCIL IN FEBRUARY, ALONG WITH OUR NO KILL SHELTER.

THIS WAS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF LAKE CITY'S COMMITMENT TO THE HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE NOW IS NOT WITH THE ORDINANCE, BUT THE SHELTER'S IMPLEMENTATION OF WHAT OUR T N R PROGRAM SHOULD BE.

SO NOW A SOLUTION IS FOR COUNCIL.

THE SHELTER AND THE CITIZENS AGREE UPON A DEFINITION OF WHAT OUR T N R PROGRAM LOOKS LIKE IN LAKE CITY.

A THIRD PARTY HAS BEEN BROUGHT IN TO HELP NAVIGATE THE WAY TO A SOLUTION.

AND I THANK YOU FOR SETTING THIS UP.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US AND ACKNOWLEDGING THIS ISSUE NEEDS FURTHER REVIEW AND REVISION.

WHAT I RESPECTFULLY ASK NOW IS FOR THE SHELTER TO START OVER, GO BACK AND DEVELOP A T N R PROGRAM FOR OUR FERAL CAP POPULATION.

WHILE THE SHELTER CONSULTS WITH AMERICAN PETS ALIVE, THE DIRECTION THEY NEED TO TAKE IS TO DEVELOP A T N R PROGRAM, WHICH THE CITY ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN FOR AND MOVE AWAY FOR OUR MOVE AWAY FROM R T F.

SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE THAT HAS BECOME THE FORGOTTEN PIECE THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN FOR.

T N R, NOT R T F.

QUITE SIMPLY, OUR CITY DOES NOT FACE THE ISSUES THAT A CITY THAT USES R T F DOES.

WE HAVE A SHELTER WITH EMPTY ADOPTION KENNELS AND A VERY SUCCESSFUL FELINE ADOPTION PROGRAM.

LET'S GO BACK TO DOING WHAT THE SHELTER HAS DONE.

A GREAT JOB AT ADOPTIONS FOR FRIENDLY CATS.

AND THEN LET'S BEGIN A NEW T N R PROGRAM FOR OUR FERAL CAT POPULATION.

A T N R PROGRAM FOR WHICH THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN.

THANK YOU PATTY KYKI.

WHO? PATTY, EVERY TIME I COME Y'ALL ARE GETTING BETTER AT SAYING THAT WITH LEKI, WHERE I ALMOST GOT IT.

WE KEEP COMING.

IT'S GONNA GET, IT'S GONNA GET PERFECT.

[00:20:03]

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL AND CITIZENS.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR APPROVING A NEW A P O OFFICER FOR THE SHELTER AND A NEW KENNEL TECH 'CAUSE HEAVEN KNOWS YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ME UP HERE CRYING, BEGGING YOU TO HELP THEM.

SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I MEAN IT, UM, IT'S A TOUGH JOB THAT THEY DO.

I ALSO WANNA CLEAR UP SOME SEEMING CONFUSION BETWEEN CITY COUN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE CITY COUNCIL MAYOR.

OKAY.

UM, IT'S ABOUT T N R AND THIS RETURN TO R T F AND IT'S COMMUNITY CATS.

T N R WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, WHEN IT WAS NEVER ABOUT THE, THE NICE CATS, IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT THE FERALS.

YOU WANNA KNOW HOW I KNOW THAT? SO I'M GONNA CONFESS SOME SINS.

BEFORE T R WAS APPROVED HERE, I WAS, WAS DOING T N R I WAS HELPING THE SHELTER.

WE WERE TAKING CATS BACK, BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM, THE FERALS.

WE NEVER TOOK A FRIENDLY CAT BACK.

SO WHAT WE WERE PRACTICING, WE CALLED T N R AND THEN TO SUDDENLY TURN AROUND AND FIND THIS, IT WAS JUST STUNNING.

OKAY.

I DID THAT WITH THE SHELTER.

I BELIEVED IN IT.

I WOULD CALL OWNERS AND SAY, HEY, GOT YOUR BIG BLACK CAT HERE, T N R, WOULD YOU LIKE HIM BACK? AND THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? MY FAVORITE ANSWER WAS LIKE, YES, I'D LIKE HIM BACK BECAUSE I FOUND OUT THAT THAT CAT WAS KEEPING ALL THESE OTHER CATS AWAY.

SO HE HAD A CONTROLLED CAT POPULATION.

HE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF CAT FIGHTS BECAUSE THAT CAT WAS IN CHARGE.

SO PUTTING THESE CATS BACK WHERE THEY COME FROM IS BENEFICIAL.

AND A LOT OF OUR CITIZENS HAVE COME TO FIND THAT OUT.

SO, UM, I DO TRY TO GET EDUCATED.

I TRIED.

I WENT TO THE, UM, ANIMAL CONFERENCE IN 2020 IN FEBRUARY IN AUSTIN PETS ALIVE ANIMAL CONFERENCE.

AND THEN I SAID, WELL, UM, I TOOK A RETURN TO FIELD CLASS ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, YEAR TWO HOUR RETURN TO FIELD CLASS.

IT WAS BY STACEY LEBARON AND BRIAN CORDES.

BRIAN CORDES IS A INTERNATIONALLY KNOWN EXPERT ON R T F.

HE WAS A LAWYER FOR 17 YEARS.

PETSMART PROGRAM MANAGER, FIVE YEARS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF NEIGHBORHOOD CATS.

AND NOW HE'S THE NATIONAL PROGRAM DIRECTOR AT NEIGHBORHOOD KAZ NATIONAL ORGANIZATION.

HIS CAREER IS DEDICATED TO THIS ENTIRE FIELD OF T N R AND R T F.

OKAY.

HE'S OFFERED AND PRODUCED MANY OF THE LEADING, UM, EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS AND BOOKS AND EVERYTHING ON.

AND HE LEADS A LOT OF CONFERENCES IN THIS AREA IN HIS CHARTS FOR R T F.

HE SAID THAT WAS THE OPTION FOR SHELTERS THAT WERE SO OVERWHELMED WITH CATS.

NICE CATS, ALL KINDS OF CATS THAT YOU WERE EITHER GOING TO EUTHANIZE THEM OR SET THEM FREE.

AND EUTHANASIA IS EXPENSIVE FINANCIALLY, EMOTIONALLY ON THE STAFF, MENTALLY ON THE STAFF, MORALLY ON THE STAFF.

ETH BECAME A POPULAR SOLUTION FOR THOSE THAT FACE DEATH.

AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM HERE.

AND YOU'VE GOT A, YOU KNOW, AN N G O THAT CAN MATCH THE NUMBER OF ADOPTION KENNELS THAT YOU HAVE.

WE HAVE SO MANY RESOURCES WE'RE BLESSED WITH IN A HARDWORKING COMMUNITY.

SO, I MEAN, IT REALLY WAS A SURPRISE.

I MEAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, CAN EVERYBODY WHO'S HERE FOR THE SHELTER AND SUPPORTS THE SHELTER, STAND UP PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

DONNA MIXON.

DONNA MIXON.

I LIVE IN NEWPORT SUBDIVISION.

I RECENTLY SENT AN EMAIL TO ALL OF YOU.

ONE OF YOU READ THE FIRST PARAGRAPH AND IMMEDIATELY SENT ME A HOSTILE KNEE JERK REACTION.

UH, YOU DIDN'T READ THE REST OF THE EMAIL, YOU DIDN'T ANSWER THE 18 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT WERE IN IT.

YOU TOLD ME THAT I WAS JUST PLAIN WRONG.

THOSE ARE YOUR WORDS.

AND THAT T N R ORDINANCE WAS MADE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC COMMENT WAS ALLOWED.

YOU BLAMED ONE OF THE ADVOCATES FOR PUTTING FORTH THE T N R PROGRAM.

YOU SAID THAT I COULD DEBATE WITH YOU THAT YOU IMPLEMENTED INCORRECTLY, BUT THAT I CAN'T SAY IT WASN'T PUBLIC.

SO HERE I AM.

THE ORDINANCE YOU PASSED IN FEBRUARY AND IMPLEMENTED IN APRIL WAS FOR T N R TRAP NEUTER AND RELEASE.

FROM WHAT I'VE FOUND, THE T N R ORDINANCE WAS PASSED ON.

ITS FIRST AND FINAL READING.

ANY COMMENT WAS TOO LATE.

IT WAS IMPLEMENTED BY THE ANIMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON WHICH THE PERSON YOU BLAMED DOES NOT SIT.

T N R IS FOR FERAL CATS ONLY.

IT WAS NEVER MEANT FOR FRIENDLY, SOCIABLE, ADOPTABLE CATS.

WHAT WE GOT WAS A BAIT AND SWITCH.

WE GOT R T F RETURNED TO FIELD.

R T F IS FOR SHELTERS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE FORCED TO KILL ANIMALS BECAUSE OF OVERCROWDING.

LEAGUE CITY HAS NOT HAD TO DO THAT SINCE 2016.

THE DIRECTOR QUIETLY CHANGED THE PROGRAM AND TOOK FRIENDLY, SOCIALIZED, ADOPTABLE CATS NOTED THEM AND ABANDONED THEM ON THE, THE LIFE OF A PAIN AND SUFFERING ON THE STREETS LEADING TO AN INHUMANE DEATH.

CONGRATULATIONS.

BECAUSE OF THOSE ACTIONS, LEAGUE CITY WENT FROM NO KILL TO KILL WITH THE VERY FIRST RELEASE AGAINST THE WHISKEYS OF THE, THE CITIZENRY.

[00:25:01]

ALL BECAUSE YOU ABDICATED YOUR DUTY TO MAKE CERTAIN.

SHE IMPLEMENTED THE PROGRAM ACCORDING TO THE ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS STATE AND NATIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH BY THE WAY, DO EXIST EVEN THOUGH SHE CLAIMS THEY DON'T.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS HANDLE DIFFERENTLY SINCE THIS PAUSE IS ABOUT TO COME TO AN END.

BUT Y'ALL HAVE SHATTERED MY CONFIDENCE.

I AM DISGUSTED, ASHAMED, HORRIFIED, SICKENED AND ANGRY.

LAST MEETING, I ASKED WHICH ONE OF YOU WOULD ABANDON YOUR PET UNDER THE SAME CONDITIONS.

THIS WEEK I UP THE ANTE.

WHICH OF YOU WILL SPEND A MONTH DURING THE HOTTEST PART OF THE YEAR ON THE STREETS IN THE SAME CONDITIONS? NO FOOD, NO WATER, NO SHELTER, NO PROTECTION FROM INHUMANE HUMANS OR PREDATORS.

NO MEDICAL CARE, NO ASSISTANCE WHATSOEVER.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING.

NOR DO I TRUST THAT YOU'LL ACT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CATS OF THE LEAGUE CITY.

IF ALL YOU'RE GOING TO DO IS BELIEVE WHAT THE DIRECTOR TELLS YOU, THEN YOU NEED TO JUST MAKE THAT CLEAR.

NOW.

JUST TELL US ALL SO WE CAN STOP FIGHTING THIS US.

BUT I CHALLENGE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG.

AFTER ALL, YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE HELD RESPONSIBLE AT THE NEXT BALLOT BOX.

DEBORAH CONRAD, YOU ALREADY SPOKE.

SPOKE.

I HAD MY TIME.

I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU.

UH, LIZ WILLIAMS. HELLO, MY NAME IS LIZ WILLIAMS. I LIVE AT 3 1 9 BAY SPRING DRIVE IN LAKE CITY, TEXAS.

IN 2016, THE LAKE CITY ANIMAL SHELTER ACHIEVED NO KILL STATUS.

THAT OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE WAS ABOUT 90%.

AFTER ONE YEAR OF MAINTAINING THAT NUMBER, WE OFFICIALLY RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE WERE A NO KILL COMMUNITY.

THANKS TO THE TIRELESS EFFORTS OF OUR STAFF, VOLUNTEERS, AND THE SUPPORT OF OUR CITIZENS, WHEN LICKING AT THE NUMBERS, IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THE LIVE RELEASE RATE OF CATS WAS FAR BELOW THAT OF DOGS AND FERAL CATS HAD THE LOWEST LIVE RELEASE RATE.

STAFF AT THE TIME BEGAN TALKING ABOUT INTERACTING AT T N R ORDINANCE THAT WOULD IMPROVE THE LIFE'S RELEASE RATE OF FERAL CATS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT WOULD BE TO EDUCATE OUR CITY LEADERS AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT T N R BEFORE AN ORDINANCE WAS PROPOSED AND THE IN TURN, WE IMPLEMENTED A WORKING CAT PROGRAM WHEREBY WE WOULD STERILIZE AND RELEASE FERAL CATS TO A WORKING CAT PROGRAM.

OH, I'M SORRY, TO A, UH, CARETAKERS OF PROPERTIES THAT HAD A RODENT ISSUE.

ONE OF OUR VOLUNTEERS ADMINISTERED THIS PROGRAM AND DROVE AS FAR AWAY AS AUSTIN AND DALLAS AREAS TO DELIVER THESE CATS TO THE NEW OWNERS AND FAMILIARIZE THEM.

AND THAT WORKED TO GET THEM ACCLIMATED.

SO THE CATS WERE AT THEIR NEW TERRITORY.

THE STERILIZATION WAS PAID FOR BY OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERSHIP SO THAT THERE WERE NO IMPACT ON THE BUDGET.

THIS PROGRAM WAS A SUCCESS AND IMPROVED OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE FOR THE CATS.

OUR NONPROFIT PARTNER LEAGUE CITY PETS ALIVE WAS ABLE TO FORM PARTNERSHIP WITH SEVERAL LOCAL PET BUSINESSES AND BEGAN TO PULL ADOPTABLE CATS FROM THE SHELTER TO OFFER FOR ADOPTION IN THESE OFFSITE LOCATIONS.

IN THIS WAY, MANY CATS WERE RELEASED FOR OFFSITE ADOPTIONS.

THEY PAID FOR THE STERILIZATION AND THESE CATS AND CLEANING, FEEDING AND THE ADOPTION PROCESS WERE ALL ACHIEVED WITH VOLUNTEER LABOR, AGAIN, CAUSING NO IMPACT TO THE SHELTER BUDGET WHATSOEVER.

WITH THIS IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE LIFESAVING PROGRAMS, THE LEAGUE CITY SHELTER WAS

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, SUSAN BAUER BAUER.

HOW DO YOU SAY IT? BOWMAN.

BOWMAN.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS SUSAN BOWMAN.

I LIVE AT 2 1 0 4 DUBLIN DRIVE IN LEAGUE CITY.

UH, I WAS A SHELTER VOLUNTEER WORKING WITH THE CATS FROM 2015 TO 20, UH, 2021.

UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE.

LIZ WAS READING WORDS FROM FORMER SHELTER DIRECTOR KIM SCHOOLCRAFT, WHO WAS DIRECTOR OF THE SHELTER FROM 2013 TO 2020.

SO I'M GONNA FINISH UP, UH, KIM'S WORDS.

KIM COULD NOT BE HERE TO READ.

WELL, SHE COULD BE HERE, BUT SHE COULDN'T READ THE WORDS 'CAUSE SHE'S NOT A LEAGUE CITY CITIZEN.

SO, UM, KIM HAD WRITTEN THESE, SO WE'RE GONNA FINISH THEM UP.

WHEN DISCUSSING THE T N R ORDINANCE WITH STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS, WE NEVER DISCUSSED RELEASING FRIENDLY ADOPTABLE CATS.

NOR DID WE ENVISION RELEASING CATS WITHOUT A KNOWN CAREGIVER THAT WOULD COMMIT TO ENSURING THE CAT OR CATS WERE STAYING HEALTHY AND HAD ADEQUATE FOOD, WATER, AND SHELTER.

WHEN NECESSARY, WITH THE PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO PROTECT ALL CATS, WE WOULD HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME TO INFORM AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT T N R AND RECRUIT CARETAKERS.

RETURN TO FIELD PROGRAMS SHOULD ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED IF A SHELTER IS GOING TO HAVE TO EUTHANIZE, ADOPTABLE, ADOPTABLE CATS BECAUSE THEY'RE OUTTA SPACE, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE IN OUR CITY.

ALL THE MAJOR HUMANE ORGANIZATIONS AGREE THAT ADOPTION IS THE BEST OUTCOME FOR ADOPTABLE CATS.

AND LEAGUE CITY HAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL ADOPTION PROGRAM OF BOTH DOGS AND CATS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

NICOLE ANTON.

NICOLE ANTON, DAVIS ROAD.

UM, I ACTUALLY AM, I THINK THE CONFUSION IS OVER ABOUT WHAT R T F IS AND ABOUT T N R.

ARE WE ALL CLEAR ON THAT? YES, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE HUGE CONFUSION AND WHY THIS HAS BEEN ONGOING.

YOU KNOW, R T F RETURNED TO THE FIELD.

THAT'S IF YOU HAVE AN OVERPOPULATION OF CATS AND YOU DON'T HAVE ROOM IN YOUR FACILITY, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.

.

WE HAVE AN EMPTY ADOPTION ROOM.

WE NEED CATS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO HOMES INSTEAD OF BEING THROWN INTO THE STREETS.

WE HAVE CATS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT COME AT JUST LIKE DOGS.

THEY MARK THEIR TERRITORY.

WE DON'T LIKE THAT.

NOBODY LIKES THAT.

WE GET SHOT AT, THEY GET SHOOED OFF, THEY GET, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BBS IN THEIR HIPS.

I MEAN, ALL KINDS OF HORRIBLE THINGS.

NOBODY WANTS A BUNCH OF CATS RUNNING AROUND THAT ARE TRYING TO FIND, TO FIND FOOD OR FIND A HOME.

SO, SINCE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, I'M GONNA SKIP A LOT OF THIS 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MORE CONFUSION.

WHAT I AM CONFUSED ABOUT IS WHY THE DIRECTOR DECIDED THIS WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA TO DO THIS.

WHEN WE HAVE ROOM IN THE ADOPTION FACILITY TO ADOPT THESE FRIENDLY CATS OUT, WHY THROW THEM ONTO THE STREETS? I'M JUST STILL BAFFLED ABOUT THAT.

THERE'S NO, IT'S ERRATIC.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN THINKING AND IT'S DOING NO FAVORS FOR THE ANIMALS OR THE COMMUNITY.

NOBODY WANTS STRAY DOGS RUNNING AROUND, GETTING SMASHED ON THE ROADS.

NOBODY WANTS STRAY CATS.

NOBODY WANTS TO SEE ANY OF THIS.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

WHAT IF YOU HAVE KIDS IN THE CAR? IT'S AN AWFUL THING.

CATS FRIENDLY CATS DO NOT DESERVE TO BE OUT ON THE STREETS TRYING TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.

I'M JUST BAFFLED AS TO WHY ANYBODY THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA.

AND IT'S NOT FAIR, IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT THE DIRECTOR HAS DONE TO OUR BELOVED SHELTER.

I WANT OUR SHELTER BACK.

I WANT THE WAY IT WAS BACK.

IT WAS A SUCCESSFUL, WONDERFUL, HAPPY PLACE TO BE.

PLEASE JUST LET US HAVE OUR CAUSE.

PLEASE RESPECT OUR CAUSE.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING.

THE FORMER STAFF THAT FLED TO SAVE THEIR GOOD NAME AND THE COMMUNITY AND THE THOUGHTLESSNESS THAT WAS DONE BY THE DIRECTOR, THE ERRATIC AND DISCOURTESY THAT SHE HAS DONE TO OUR COMMUNITY, PLEASE LET US HAVE WHAT WE HAD BACK.

THAT'S ALL WE WANT.

WE WANT THESE FRIENDLY CATS TO BE IN THE ADOPTION ROOM AND NOT THROWN ONTO THE STREETS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SURVIVE ON THEIR OWN HOUSE.

CATS DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.

FERAL CATS HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT, I I I BELIEVE THEY'RE JUST GENETICALLY DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE MADE DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE WIRED DIFFERENT.

THEY'RE HARDWIRED TO SURVIVE.

HOUSE CATS FRIENDLY ADOPTABLE CATS DO NOT HAVE THAT.

AND LIKE I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, THEY WALK UP TO THE WRONG PEOPLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS.

THERE'S, SATAN HAS BEEN CUT LOOSE.

ANYTHING THAT HAS A A, A HEART LIKE THAT, THAT WALKS UP TO AN, UH, A, A PERSON AND WANTS NOTHING BUT TO BE LOVED OR HELD OR FED AND, AND IS STRANGLED TO DEATH HERE ON CONSTELLATION POINT BOULEVARD, THERE'S A PROBLEM.

PLEASE LET US HAVE, PLEASE LET US HAVE OUR SHELTER BACK THE WAY IT WAS.

THAT'S ALL ELLEN OR RODNEY,

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UH, BERTAN.

I THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE LEFT WITH WINFIELD ELE OR RODNEY.

SO JUST, UH, REAL QUICK AND I I DO AGREE WITH WHAT, UH, MS. ANTON SAID.

SO WHAT I'VE ASKED THE CITY TO DO, OF COURSE WE'VE ALREADY HAVE THE STAY ON IT.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE NONPROFIT TO ADDRESS THAT COME OF LONG-TERM PLAN.

UH, BUT I I, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO, YOU SAID WHY DID THIS HAPPEN IN THE HISTORY? SO WE'RE PULLING ALL THE EMAILS, THE VIDEOS, ALL OF THAT TOGETHER AND WE'RE GONNA PUT IT ALL IN A PACKET AND HAVE THAT PUBLICLY AVAILABLE BEF PROBABLY NEXT WEEK AT THE LATEST TARGET GOAL IS, IS THE END OF THIS WEEK.

AND I THINK THAT WE'LL PAINT A PICTURE OF WHY IT HAPPENED, WHO WAS ADVOCATING FOR IT, WHAT WAS WRITTEN IN THOSE EMAILS, WHAT THE FIRST AND FINAL ACTUALLY MEANT, WHO ASKED FOR THE FIRST AND FINAL READING AND, AND WHY THAT WAS LAID OUT THAT WAY.

AND SO I THINK ONCE THAT ALL COMES TO LIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THAT US UP HERE, US EIGHT, I CAN PROMISE YOU ARE NOT EXPERTS IN THIS AT ALL.

UH, HALF THESE ACRONYMS I'VE JUST RECENTLY LEARNED.

UH, SO WE'RE JUST STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE BEST WAY FORWARD IS.

I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE AN OPINION OF WHAT THE BEST WAY FORWARD IS.

I AM WILLING TO TALK ABOUT IS THE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE CORRECT.

IS IT BEING IMPLEMENTED CORRECTLY? IS THAT THE INTENDED? IS THAT THE INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE? BUT IN TERMS OF WHO WROTE IT, WE DIDN'T WRITE IT AND IT IT CAME, IT DID COME FROM THE COMMUNITY.

SO WE'LL UH, PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER AND HAVE IT AT NEXT WEEK AT THE LATEST.

ALRIGHT, NOW MOVING ALONG AND GOING TO

[6. CONSENT AGENDA]

CONSENT AGENDA SIX A THROUGH SIX K OR SIX A THROUGH SIX J.

'CAUSE WE NEED K.

MAYOR, I NEED TO PULL SIX F F DO.

AYE, I'D LIKE TO PULL SIX J, F, AND J AND K HAS ALREADY BEEN DISPENSED.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER AND I'LL SECOND THAT, TOM.

ALRIGHT, NOBODY, LET'S VOTE.

MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST SIX F

[6F. 23-0432 Consider and take action on a resolution authorizing a one-year renewal agreement with Brooks Concrete, Inc. for streets, sidewalks, and concrete pavement repair in an amount not to exceed $2,003,100 (Director of Public Works)]

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A ONE YEAR RENEWAL AGREEMENT WITH BROOKS CONCRETE INC.

FOR STREETS, SIDEWALKS, CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPAIRS IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2 MILLION $3,100.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE MR. COUNTS.

YEAH, MAYOR, I JUST GOT A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS.

I'M SOMEWHAT CONFUSED ON, WE TALK ABOUT, AND I I'M IN A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT THAT WE NEED TO FIX EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT UP HERE, STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND CONCRETE.

BUT I'M SOMEWHAT CONFUSED WHEN I SEE SIDEWALK REINVESTMENT PROJECT 705,000.

AND I THINK THE QUESTION I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WAS TO MR. BAUMGARTER AND TO, UH, MR. DOME WAS, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS IN COMMERCIAL AREAS OR RESIDENTIAL OR BOTH? FUNDAMENTALLY WITH SIDEWALK REPAIRS, WE REPAIR THEM WHETHER THEY'RE IN COMMERCIAL AREAS OR RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PERSPECTIVE, MOST OF THOSE ARE SELF-REPORTED WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.

IF THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS DOESN'T REPORT IT, SOMETIMES THOSE LAG A LITTLE LONGER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I, AS I DRIVE THE ROAD, I THINK AS JODI DRIVES ROAD, IF WE SEE THOSE AREAS, WE REPORT THOSE ALSO.

BUT, BUT IT'S ALL PUBLIC SIDEWALKS IS UNDER THAT PROGRAM.

OKAY.

WITH A RECENT, UM, OPINION FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY ON SIDEWALKS IN BETWEEN, UM, OUR DRIVEWAYS, THAT PORTION OF A DRIVEWAY, IS THAT STILL CONSIDERED A SIDEWALK FOR OUR REPAIR UNDER THIS, UNDER THIS, UM, UH, AGENDA ITEM? SO EVERY ONE OF THOSE SITUATIONS, I WOULD SAY IS CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY, I CAN'T SAY THERE'S A BLANKET ANSWER, BUT IF WE HAVE A PATHWAY THAT HAS DIFFERENTIAL SETTLEMENT IN THAT STRIP BETWEEN THE TWO ENDS OF THE SIDEWALKS, WE HAVE MADE REPAIRS ON THOSE IN THE PAST.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY IS THAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT, UH, I KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE CANNOT PUT MONEY CITY MONEY INTO PRIVATE PROPERTY, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS WHAT OUR INTENT TO DO.

YEAH, SO THERE IS, JUST TO HELP BEFORE THE ATTORNEY ANSWERS

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GENERALLY, AND AGAIN, EACH ONE OF THESE IS UNIQUE.

SO I CAN'T, I HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE OR JODY HAS TO LOOK AT EACH ONE.

YOU KNOW, WE GENERALLY LOOK AT DRIVEWAYS, EVEN THE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE IN THE PUBLIC REALM AS THEY SERVE ONE PURPOSE, A PRIVATE PURPOSE TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY.

AND SO IF IT'S PURELY A SIDEWALK, IF IT'S PURELY A DRIVEWAY ISSUE, WE GENERALLY DON'T REPAIR IT.

BUT IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE THE NATURAL PEDESTRIAN PATH, THEN THERE ARE CERTAINLY TIMES WE'VE MADE THOSE REPAIRS.

OKAY.

AND, AND I THINK THANK YOU.

AND I, I GUESS JUST ASKING, UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, IS THIS YOUR UNDERSTANDING, WILL WE BE PAYING FOR THAT PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY IN BETWEEN THE TWO SIDEWALKS OF A DRIVEWAY? IS THAT, IS THAT PERMISSIBLE OR NOT PERMISSIBLE? I WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT OUR NOT SPENDING MONEY TO REPAIR THOSE DRIVEWAY PANELS, IF THAT IS YOUR QUESTION.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

MS. SORRY.

ON THAT SAME SUBJECT, I KNOW WHEN I BUILT MY HOUSE THREE YEARS AGO, THAT ENTIRE SECTION FROM WHERE IT STARTS RIGHT THERE, WHERE SOME ARE CLAIMING A SIDEWALK WAS BUILT TO ROADWAY STANDARDS WITH LARGER REBAR, ET CETERA, FOR A DRIVEWAY ROADWAY AREA.

I WAS THERE WHENEVER THEY BUILT MY HOUSE, I SAW THE BUILDING INSPECTORS ASKED THEM WHY IT WAS BUILT MORE HEAVIER.

MM-HMM.

, IT WAS BUILT AS PART OF THE ROADWAY DRIVEWAY INTERCHANGE.

MR. HOOKS, WHEN YOU'VE TALKED BEFORE ABOUT THAT PART, YOU'VE ALWAYS CLAIMED THAT THAT'S THE APRON COMING UP AND THAT Y'ALL DO REPAIR THAT APRON AREA.

THAT SO THAT'S THE APRON COMING UP TO THE DRIVEWAY, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S YOUR AREA FOR ME TO TRANSITION FROM THE STREET INTO YOUR, INTO THE REMAINING PORTION OF YOUR DRIVEWAY THROUGH THE APRON OF THE DRIVEWAY.

CORRECT.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S HOW Y'ALL AND Y'ALL HAVE REPAIRED THOSE? I'VE SEEN THEM.

WE, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE MAJOR, MAJOR DAMAGE.

AND I THINK MR. BAUMGARTER MENTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

MM-HMM.

, UH, MADE REPAIRS A LOT.

IT'S A VERY CONTENTIOUS AREA.

THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES IF WE ADJUST THE WALKWAY AREA, IT NOW DISPLACES IT FROM THE REGULAR DRIVEWAY.

SO IN, IN THE PAST, IF IT'S A RELATIVELY EASY REPAIR, MAYBE A MUD JACKING DEAL, AND WE CAN, WE CAN KIND OF BE A COMMON FIX THEN, THEN WE'VE DONE IT IN THE PAST, LET'S BE HONEST, GOING AROUND THE CITY, IF YOU LOOK AROUND THE CITY AND YOU LOOK AT THESE ENTRANCES OF THE DRIVEWAY, A MAJORITY OF I SEEN HAVE NO DEFINITE DEFINING POINT OTHER THAN IT'S COMING INTO THE DRIVEWAY.

THERE'S USUALLY AN EXPANSION JOINT JUST AFTER THAT.

MM-HMM.

GOING, TRANSITIONING FROM THE CITY'S APRON INTO THE PERSONAL DRIVEWAY OF THE HOMEOWNER.

SO, LIKE I SAID, I KNOW FOR A FACT BOND WAS BUILT A HEAVIER STANDARD.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A PIECE OF REBAR STILL THAT I PICKED UP THAT WAS SCRAP THAT WAS LIKE THAT BIG AROUND FOR THAT PORTION OF MY DRIVEWAY.

SO IT IS A DRIVEWAY PORTION AND THAT IN SOME SITUATIONS, THE CITY DOES REPAIR THOSE, IF I'M REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IN THE PAST, WE HAVE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THAT'S ALL I NEED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A DEBATE ON WHAT A SIDEWALK IS.

MAYBE THE LAST DEBATE I WANT TO GET INTO, BUT I DO THINK THAT HEY, WE HAVE TO HAVE THOSE, THOSE APRONS HAVE TO BE REPAIRED.

I THINK THE CITY SHOULD REPAIR THEM BECAUSE IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE REPAIR EVERYTHING BETWEEN, BUT THE DRIVEWAY PORTION IS CRACKED UP, THEN YOU CAN'T USE THE, THE SIDEWALK FOR A STROLLER OR A, OR A WHEELCHAIR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO I, I WOULD THINK THAT WE'RE JUST GONNA REPAIR THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK SO THAT IT'S USABLE, NOT KEEP STARTING AND STOPPING THE PROJECT.

THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE.

JUST MAKE THE SIDEWALKS USABLE AND, AND EASY TO GET AROUND HOWEVER WE WANT.

DEFINE IT.

OKAY.

STATE LAW, NO.

YEAH.

YES IT IS.

LET'S MOVE ON.

THIS SUBJECT .

I I THINK WE'RE IN A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREEMENT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE WOULD REPAIR THOSE PIECES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN KEEP WALKING ON IT.

I JUST WANT THE SIDEWALKS REPAIRED.

I DON'T WANNA MAKE A DETERMINATION ON WHAT IS OR ISN'T TODAY.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE USABLE SIDEWALKS THAT PEOPLE CAN U THAT PEOPLE CAN GO DOWN THE STREET ON.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY, LET'S VOTE.

MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST, UH, SIX

[6J. 23-0452 Consider and take action on a resolution removing the New I-45 Frontage Road to Hobbs Road (Winfield Road) project ST2203 from the May 2019 GO Bond project list and the FY2024-2028 CIP (Assistant City Manager - CFO)]

J CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION.

OUR RESOLUTION REMOVING THE NEW I 45 FRONTAGE ROAD TO HOBBS ROAD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS WINFIELD ROAD PROJECT T 2 2 0 3 FROM MAY, 2019 ZERO BOND PROJECT LIST AND F Y 2024 DASH 2028 C I P MOVE TO APPROVE I'LL SECOND

[00:45:01]

SCREWS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, MY, I'VE GOT, UH, TWO THINGS.

ONE, THIS IS GONNA BE SO TIED TO TO 10 A THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT WE SHOULDN'T COMBINE THEM, BUT, BUT RIGHT NOW, SINCE THEY ARE SEPARATE, UM, MY, MY QUESTION IS THAT THE CITIZENS AS A WHOLE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, THE CITIZENS AS A WHOLE VOTED FOR THIS THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE, UH, GENERAL ELECTION PIECE.

AND SO IN THEIR MINDS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY'RE GONNA JUST, THEY SAID, HEY, WE VOTED FOR THIS ROAD, WE EXPECT TO SEE THIS ROAD, AND NOW IT'S NOW THE, THE EIGHT OF US OR HOWEVER MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA VOTE ARE ARE GOING TO ACTUALLY JUST SAY, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUILD IT.

THAT JUST SEEMS, IT JUST SEEMS WRONG, BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, THAT WAS JUST MY COMMENT ON THAT.

MR. JUSTIN.

UM, MY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE CITY MANAGER, IF WE PULL IT FROM THE, THE, UH, THE 2024 TO 2028 SIP, IS IT STAYING ON THE SIP? IT'S JUST OUT OF THE FIVE-YEAR PLANNED BUDGET WINDOW.

IT, IT'S, IT DOES SHOW, IS IT, I'M LOOKING AT CHRISTOPHER.

IT DOES SHOW AS A ROAD IN THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

SO IF WE PULL IT OUT OF THE C I P, THEN IT'S PULLED OUTTA THE C I P AND THERE'S NO PROGRAMMING OR FUNDS DEVOTED TO IT.

AND, BUT WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS IN THE C I P THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.

RIGHT.

WE HAVE OTHER PROJECTS ON THE MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN THAT AREN'T IN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW.

NO, IN THE C I P IF IT'S IN THE, NOT EVERYTHING IN THE C I P HAS A DATE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, DOES IT EVERYTHING IN THIS, EVERYTHING IN THE C I P HAS A FUNDING PLAN TO GO WITH IT.

SO THE FIVE YEAR C I P THERE IS A LIST THAT SAYS, HEY, HERE'S SOME OTHER PROJECTS WE MIGHT WANNA THINK ABOUT.

BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO FUNDING PLAN ASSOCIATED.

BUT THERE'S PAGES IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT DON'T HAVE FUNDING IN THE FIVE YEAR.

I THOUGHT, NO SIR.

NO SIR, THERE SHOULDN'T BE.

THERE'S NOT.

UM, THERE IS A LIST IN THE VERY FRONT OF THE NARRATIVE IT TALKS ABOUT.

SO JUST THE LIST, OTHER IDENTIFIED UNFUNDED PROJECTS.

SO IT'S THINGS THAT FALL OUTSIDE THAT FIVE YEAR WINDOW THAT ARE FROM THE MASTER PLANS OR HAVE MOST OF THAT IS BASICALLY FROM A MASTER PLAN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. BOWEN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH MR. CRUZ.

THIS WAS A BOND INITIATIVE AND, UH, I THINK THAT AT A MINIMUM WE SHOULD HOLD A WORKSHOP AND LET CITIZENS WEIGH IN ON THE, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES THAT WERE DONE.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY WALKING AWAY FROM, IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST $121,000 THAT HAS BEEN SPENT ON THIS PROJECT, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED IN FOR 2022, UH, IN 2022.

AND I THINK WE SHOULD AT LEAST GIVE THE CITIZENS THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND DO THIS OPEN AND FAIR IN A, UH, TRANSPARENT WAY.

THANK YOU.

SO I, I'VE HATED THIS PROJECT FOR A LONG TIME AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING, UH, TO REMOVE IT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT'S PRETTY OPEN AND TRANSPARENT SINCE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT NOW FOR LIKE SIX MONTHS IN LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT MEETINGS TO REMOVE THE PROJECT.

SO, UH, I, I JUST DON'T THINK IT PROVIDES MUCH RELIEF AT $1.1 MILLION.

I, I THINK IT'S KIND OF AN AWKWARD ROAD, UH, AND JUST STACKS IT BACK ONTO HOBBES AND DOESN'T, DOESN'T REALLY SOLVE THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, TO VOTING ON HERE IN A MINUTE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE FIVE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD TO DISCUSS THIS, THERE HAS BEEN ZERO PUBLIC MEETINGS ON THIS, THIS MEETING, THE BUDGET MEETINGS, THE C I P MEETINGS WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AD NAUSEUM LAST MEETING.

I MEAN THAT'S, THERE'S PROBABLY MORE THAN FIVE.

THE NAMING OF IT, THE NAMING OF IT THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IS KIND OF OFF AND ON FOR SIX MONTHS.

THANK.

ALRIGHT.

CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION REMOVING NEW I 45 FRONTAGE ROAD TO HOBBS ROAD.

WINFIELD, FORMERLY KNOWN AS WINFIELD ROAD PROJECT ST 2 2 2 0 3 FROM MAY, 2019.

GO BOND, PROJECT LIST AND F Y 2024.

2028 C I P.

WE ALREADY HAD THE MOTION.

MOTION WAS MADE BY MR. CONES, SECONDED BY MR. HICKS.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES 6 4 2 AGAINST BOWEN CRUZ.

[00:50:05]

UH, THERE IS NO NUMBER SEVEN, UH, NUMBER EIGHT

[8A. 23-0447 Consider and take action on Ordinance 2023-30 allowing the League City Convention and Visitors Bureau Advisory Board to meet at times earlier than 5 p.m. on Monday through Friday - Second Reading (Council Member Saunders and Council Member Bowen)]

OLD BUSINESS.

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 30, ALLOWING THE LEAGUE CITY CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU ADVISORY BOARD TO MEET AT TIMES EARLIER THAN 5:00 PM ON MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

SECOND READING, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, UH, MR. CRUZ.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, THIS IS, THIS IS GOING TO, YOU'LL HAVE TO BEAR WITH ME ON THIS ONE BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S SOME QUESTIONS THAT KIND OF COME UP AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE SUCH AN EASY ORDINANCE AND SO MISS IF THE CITY ATTORNEY IS GONNA END UP HAVING A QUESTION ASKED TO HIM ABOUT IT.

SO, UM, SO THIS IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT AND MR. CONES, YOU'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE, UM, IN THIS AS WELL.

SO, UH, SO LET ME JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH AND THEN YOU'LL, YOU'LL UNDERSTAND MY PERPLEX AND THEN YOU'LL UNDERSTAND WHY I NEED THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SO THIS COULD BE CONSIDERED MORE OF A POINT OF A POINT OF INFORMATION.

SO, SO ON THIS, WHEN THINGS, WE COME AND WE PASS A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS HERE IN JUST THE, THE FEW MONTHS, I GUESS ALMOST A YEAR THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, AND THIS WOULD SEEM TO BE ONE OF THE SMALLEST, MOST INSIGNIFICANT THINGS.

UH, WHILE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO, TO THE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME, THEY'RE HELPING OUT.

BUT IT, YOU KNOW, AND SO I, I STILL THOUGHT IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER IF WE WERE GONNA CHANGE IT JUST TO LET THEM SERVE OUT THEIR TERMS IS WHAT THEY AGREED TO.

BUT THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

SO THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING MORE TO THIS BECAUSE EARLIER THIS WEEK WE HAD A, A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD WHO WAS ISOLATED BY A CITY COUNCILMAN.

AND THE CITY COUNCILMAN HAD HAD PULLED HIM AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU WENT TO AN ADVERSARY ON ON THIS.

AND, AND HE WAS ANGRY ABOUT IT.

AND THEN IT WAS ALMO THEN IT BECAME ALMOST LIKE A, A FEW GOOD MEN MOMENT.

YOU KNOW, THAT POINT WHERE HE SAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, TOM CRUISE SAYS TO JACK NICHOLSON, YOU KNOW, HE SAYS, HEY, I NEED SAN DIEGO'S TRANSPORT ORDERS.

AND AND JACK NICHOLSON COMES BACK AND SAYS, WELL, YOU GOTTA ASK ME NICELY.

AND IT KIND OF ATE ITS OWN.

I WAS GONNA SHOW THAT VIDEO, BUT THERE'S PROFANITY IN IT AND I COULD NOT KIND OF WORK AROUND IT.

'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT KIND OF A SITUATION.

AND THE REASON THAT'S SO BOTHERSOME IS THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SETTLED, THAT WE HAVE THIS CITIZEN WHO'S NOW BEEN ISOLATED, INTIMIDATED, AND ASKED TO, TO DO SOMETHING.

IT'S VERY SILLY.

IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME THING.

IT'S ALMOST, YOU HAVE TO ASK ME NICELY.

IT'S MORE OF A COME FORWARD AND KISS THE RING KIND OF THING.

YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE THE CITY COUNCILMAN SAYS THAT HE CONTROLS THE LEGISLATION AND THAT, UM, AND, AND THAT, AND THAT THROUGH THAT HE, HE BASICALLY KIND OF RUNS, CONTROLS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE.

THE THE OTHER CONCERNING PART IS THAT IT WOULD BE A, IT ALSO SAYS THAT, HEY, IF YOU DO THIS OR IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, I CAN ALSO CONTROL, UH, I CAN ALSO CONTROL TOMMY COHEN'S VOTE.

WHICH I CAN TELL YOU THAT, THAT TOMMY CONES IS NOT, I I DO NOT BELIEVE AT ALL HIS VOTE IS FOR SALE WHATSOEVER.

BUT IF THAT STATEMENT WAS BEING MADE, SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING PERTINENT TO THE ACTUAL DISCUSSION? I DO, I DO.

ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.

I DO.

IF, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE I WAS KIND OF, IF THIS IS HAPPENING ON SOMETHING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THIS PIDDLY AND THESE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE AFRAID TO COME FORWARD, MR. CITY ATTORNEY, WHERE DO THEY GO WITH THESE COMPLAINTS? IF THEY CAN'T, IF THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COME TO CITY COUNCIL, WHERE DO THEY GO? SO THAT WOULD BE EXACTLY NOT PERTINENT TO THIS.

YOU CAN CERTAINLY TAKE THAT UP WITH THE ETHICS BOARD.

WELL, NO, I MEAN IT'S NOT THE THE ETHICS BOARD.

HOW, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TIME OF THE MEETING? WELL, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

IS THERE, THERE MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE TO THIS OTHER THAN JUST THE MEETING.

IT PROBABLY YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS ABOUT EACH OTHER IS PROBABLY WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

BUT I DIDN'T EVEN THAT'S NOT NAME DIDN'T EVEN THE FIVE O'CLOCK I DID NOT NAME COUNCILMAN HICKS IS THE ONE.

SO IT'S ABOUT THE, LET'S KEEP OUR, LET'S KEEP OUR THOUGHT TO, DO WE WANT IT AT FIVE O'CLOCK OR DO WE WANT IT AT FOUR 30? WE WANT IT AT SIX 30.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MR. HICKS.

YEAH, I WAS GONNA MAKE A

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MOTION TO AMEND THAT ALL THE MEETINGS BY THE C V B SHALL BE LIVE STREAMED AND UPLOADED TO SWAG IT AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ANYWAYS.

AND THAT NO MORE MEETINGS BE CONDUCTED AWAY FROM CITY PROPERTY SECOND.

SO THAT'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL SAYING THAT THEY NEED TO BE LIVE STREAMED AND IF TIME IS AN ISSUE IN THE CITY FACILITY, RIGHT.

AND IF TIME IS AN ISSUE, THEN THIS SHOULD NOT BE A PROBLEM.

SO, SO TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE I HEAR OTHER PEOPLE ASKING, IT'S TO ALLOW THEM TO MEET DURING BUSINESS HOURS WHEN IS CONVENIENT FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

SO LONG AS IT'S LIVE STREAMED, WHICH MEANS IT'S GONNA BE HELD HERE AT YEAH.

AND IT GETS UP CITY PROPERTY.

YEAH.

YES, CHAD.

AND IT GETS UPLOADED TO SWAG IT AND WE DO IT ON CITY PROPERTY.

YEP.

PERFECT.

ALRIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY WANNA SPEAK TO THE AMENDMENT? DO SORRY, SEAN, I'M NOT ONLY SPEAKING TO THE AMENDMENT, I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK.

YEAH, WE'LL GO BACK AFTER THE, AFTER THE AMENDMENT IS VOTED YES, YAY OR NAY AND THEN YOU CAN SPEAK ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

SO, AND, AND DON'T FOR CLARITY, THIS, THIS PERTAINS TO C V B ONLY HOWEVER YOU WRITE THAT UP.

SO WHEN YOU SAID THAT THIS IS GONNA BE ON, ON CITY PROPERTY, 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK THEY'RE MEETING AT SOUTH SHORE.

SO ARE WE SAYING THEY CANNOT DO THAT ANYMORE? NO MORE OFFSITE MEETINGS DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIVE STREAM IT ON SWAG.

IT, YES.

CAN'T HAVE ONE OR THE OTHER.

IT'S GOTTA BE BOTH.

OKAY.

VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

PUT PUT MY NAME.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I, I'M ON MY SECOND MARRIAGE AND DURING MY FIRST MARRIAGE WE WENT TO MAR YOU KNOW, WEDDING, WENT TO COUNSELING.

AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT THE SHRINK TOLD US TO DO IS THAT WE CAN'T, UM, WE CAN'T TRY TO, WE ONLY LOOK AT THE ACTUAL ACTION.

YOU CAN'T REALLY, UH, PUT THE MOTIVATION ON THE OTHER PARTY.

YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT, WHENEVER YOU'RE QUESTIONING, UH, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS' MOTIVATIONS WITHOUT ACTUALLY JUST TALKING TO 'EM AND ASKING THEM, UH, IT, WHAT IT GENERALLY LEADS TO IS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF A CONFLICT.

I DON'T DISAGREE, BUT IS THIS ABOUT FIVE O'CLOCK AND ABOUT VIDEOTAPING THE MEETINGS? WELL, WE'RE GETTING THERE.

WE ARE GETTING THERE.

IT MIGHT BE A POINT OF ORDER THAT WE'RE GETTING TO.

OKAY, SO ORIGINALLY WHENEVER THE SUNSET COMMISSION WAS FORMED AND STARTED GOING THROUGH ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT, UM, BOARDS, THE ONE THING THAT SEEMED EVERYONE SEEMED TO BE IN AGREEMENT OF IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO EXPAND THE PARTICIPATION OF THESE BOARDS TO ALL CITIZENS.

ONE THING THAT A NUMBER OF COMMITTEES WHO THE PEOPLE WHO WERE CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE BOARD HAD A REAL PROBLEM.

THEY, THEY JUST DIDN'T WANNA MOVE THE MEETINGS, BUT, AND THEY'RE, AND I'M NOT HERE TO IMPUGN THEIR MOTIVATIONS.

HOWEVER, WHAT ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WHENEVER WE ORIGINALLY DID THIS WAS EXPAND THE PARTICIPATION TO THE PUBLIC.

THAT REALLY WAS THE MOTIVATION.

NOW, SOMEONE COULD COME BACK AND SAY, OH, BUT THIS IS A SPECIAL BOARD.

THEY'RE ALL SPECIAL BOARDS AND YOU ACT AS IF WE DON'T CONTROL WHO HAS TO BE ON THE BOARD.

NOW IN THIS, THERE'S A COUPLE OF POSITIONS THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THE HOTEL, HOTEL, UH, PEOPLE ON AND MAKES SENSE.

BUT AGAIN, ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS EXPAND THE PARTICIPATION OF THE CITIZENS TO THESE IN THESE BOARDS.

THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE ENTIRE MOTIVATION.

SO I, FOR CLARITY, THAT WAS NOT ABOUT THE AMENDMENT, BUT LET'S GO, UH, LET'S, LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET BACK TO EVERYBODY VOTING AGAINST IT.

AMENDMENT PASSES.

I THINK THINK YOU MIGHT BE DOING IT FOR OTHER REASONS.

UH, MOTION PASSES 6 4 2 AGAINST.

SO NOW THAT IS THE, UH, THE, THE MOTION AS AMENDED.

AND WE'LL GO TO MR. SAUNDERS .

I GOT MY NOTE HERE.

.

THANK, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, LET IT FINISH.

, YOU GET OFF THAT .

SO AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, COUNCILMAN MANN ON THIS, BUT

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I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE EMAIL OR ONE COMMENT SINCE THIS WAS PUT UP LAST TIME TO THIS MEETING WITH ANYTHING SAYING, HEY, I DON'T LIKE THIS 'CAUSE I WANNA GO TO THESE MEETINGS.

I'VE BEEN TO SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS.

COUNCILMAN BOWEN AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AND HE'S BEEN TO THE MEETINGS BEFORE ME.

AND IF I REMEMBER MY, OUR CONVERSATION CORRECTLY, SIR, YOU CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN A CITIZEN'S EVER BEEN, THIS IS NOT A CITIZEN DRIVEN COMMITTEE.

THAT MY POINT, THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO BE AT.

WELL, NO, IT, IT, I'VE HAD NOBODY SAY, HEY, LOOK, I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THAT, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE AT AFTER FIVE.

SO I COULD BE AT THIS MEETING WHERE IN CONTRARY TO LIKE TRAFFIC, INFRASTRUCTURE, PARKS, ET CETERA, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE COMMITTEES THAT ARE IMPACTING FAMILIES LIKE THE BAY COLONY PARK.

I, I LIVED IN BAY COLONY FOR 20 YEARS.

I CAN STILL NOT REMEMBER EVER SEEING A SIGN ADVERTISING A MEETING TO HAVE FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION ABOUT BAY COLONY PARK.

I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH, IF I WOULD'VE LIVING IN PARKSIDE, I'D HAVE BEEN UP HERE ON THE PODIUM LIKE I WAS MANY TIMES TELLING YOU HOW MUCH THE RESIDENTS OVER THERE DON'T WANT IT BECAUSE OF THE LIGHTING, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

BUT THIS, THIS COMMITTEE HERE IS NOTHING BUT BUSINESS OWNERS OR BUSINESS MEMBERS, THEY'RE PAID A SALARY.

THEIR BUSY TIMES USUALLY START AROUND LUNCHTIME AND GO INTO SEVEN, EIGHT O'CLOCK AT NIGHT TO HAVE THE MEETINGS AFTER FIVE IS A HARDSHIP FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND.

AND I REALLY UNDERST I DO UNDERSTAND, WELL NOW, NOW SOMEBODY ELSE GONNA SAY THIS OR SOMEBODY'S GONNA SAY THAT.

WHY DON'T WE, WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF AND SAY WHAT IS REALLY A CITIZEN DRIVEN COMMITTEE OR WHAT IS A BUSINESS DRIVEN COMMITTEE? THIS IS A BUSINESS DRIVEN COMMITTEE.

I DO LIKE AND I DO SUPPORT 100% THE TELEVISING OF THE, OF THE MEETINGS, UH, SO THAT ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO GET SOME INFORMATION CAN, AND IF THEY COME, IF WE HAVE SYSTEMS COME BACK LATER AND WE HAVE AN OVERWHELMING SUPPORT TO CHANGE 'EM BACK TO BEFORE FIVE, THEN UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT.

BUT AT THIS TIME WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE QUESTION SECOND.

OKAY.

PLEASE VOTE.

THAT'S THE VOTING.

NO, DIDN'T TAKE NO CONGRESS THAT I SWEAR I HIT IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT, SO LET'S VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

5, 4, 3 AGAINST, BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET TO TALK, I'M NOT GONNA VOTE ON IT.

,

[8B. 23-0451 Consider and take action on Ordinance 2023-31 amending the City of League City, Texas, Governmental, Proprietary, and Capital Funds Budget for Fiscal Year 2023 by amending Ordinance No. 2022-32, Ordinance 2023-09, Ordinance 2023-12, Ordinance 2023-13, and Ordinance 2023-25 to adjust the operating and capital budget for actual and projected expenditures - Second Reading (Assistant City Manager - CFO)]

UH, CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 31 AMENDING THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS GOVERNMENTAL PROPRIETARY AND CAPITAL FUNDS BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023 BY AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2022 DASH 32, ORDINANCE 2023 DASH OH NINE, ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 12 ORDINANCE DASH ORDINANCE 2023 DASH ONE THREE AND ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 25 TO ADJUST THE OPERATING CAPITAL BUDGET FOR ACTUAL AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES.

SECOND READING, MOTION TO APPROVE.

SECOND, UH, BOWEN WHO GOT IT DOWN THERE.

SINCE M GETS IT.

UH, MR. COLLINS, UH, I'M NOT ON HERE ANYMORE EITHER.

OKAY.

THOSE ARE FROM LAST TIME WHEN I DIDN'T GET TO TALK.

ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY? YOU CAN TALK TO HIM.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS ONE.

.

ALRIGHT, PLEASE VOTE NO.

THIS IS EIGHT.

EIGHT B B GREG.

YES.

B MOTION PASSES.

7 4 1 AGAINST CRUZ.

[9A. 23-0443 Consider and take action on a resolution making a nomination for election to the Board of Directors of the Harris County Appraisal District for 2024-2025 (Mayor Long)]

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RELU, UH, NEW BUSINESS.

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION MAKING A NOMINATION FOR ELECTION TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS HARRIS COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT 2024 DASH 2025.

MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE MR. SULLIVAN.

SECOND, UH, JEB.

SORRY IF IT'S FROM BEFORE WHEN I MISTAKEN I TWIST THE FIRST TIME.

WE HAVE LIKE NO VOTES THAT MATTER, BUT I WAS GONNA SAY WE GET THREE VOTES.

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, PLEASE VOTE.

PLEASE VOTE.

YEAH.

OUT OF 30,000.

YEAH, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT WE THINK, BUT VOTE SEAN 8 4 0 AGAINST CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION

[9B. 23-0398 Consider and take action on a resolution setting the dates for conducting regular meetings during the months of November and December 2023 (City Secretary)]

ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE ANNUAL INTERNAL AUDIT PLAN FOR THE CITY OF LEAGUE, CITY FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, NINE C NO, THAT'S C B HAS BEEN PULLED.

MOTION TO APPROVE.

NO C.

C, OKAY.

NO B'S BEEN PULLED.

SORRY.

C IS NOT PULLED ON MINE.

SO C SHOULD C C SHOULD BE PULLED.

AND, OKAY, WE CAN ACT ON B.

I DON'T HAVE THE B WRITTEN DOWN THEN.

OKAY.

UH, SO NINE B, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION SETTING.

THE DATES FOR CONDUCTING REGULAR MEETINGS DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, 2023.

STAFF RECOMMENDS SETTING THE MEETING DATES.

NOVEMBER 14TH.

NOVEMBER 28TH, NOVEMBER 12TH.

SO MOVE TO, OR DECEMBER 12TH.

SECOND.

MOVE TO PROOF.

NO ONE HAS ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE DATES.

SIX.

I DON'T MEMORIZE CALENDARS.

WHAT IS THE DATE OF THANKSGIVING? THANKSGIVING'S? THE THURSDAY.

YOU'RE GONNA BE HERE ON THANKSGIVING, DUDE.

THANKSGIVING'S THE TAKE, TAKE A SHOT IN THE DARK THANKSGIVING'S THE THURSDAY BEFORE THE 28TH.

SO THE PACKET WILL COME OUT.

SO THERE'S A WEEKEND IN BETWEEN.

THERE'S THE PACKET WILL COME OUT, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY THAT WEEK.

ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY GOOD? PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

8 4 0 AGAINST NINE C PULLED NINE D CONSIDER

[9D. 23-0449 Consider and take action on a resolution accepting a $30,000 Best Friends Animal Society Grant to be used towards League City Animal Shelter spay and neuter expenses (Chief of Police)]

AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION ACCEPTING $30,000 FROM BEST FRIENDS ANIMAL SOCIETY GRANT TO BE USED TOWARDS LEAGUE CITY ANIMAL SHELTER, SPAY AND NEUTER EXPENSES MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

I'M, I'M HITTING IT.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU'RE IN THE SAME PROBLEM.

ROOM DOWN HERE.

I HIT IT.

, SHOW OF HANDS.

HERE WE GO.

WE GO 8 4 0 AGAINST

[10A. 23-0453 Consider and take action on an ordinance amending the City of League City, Texas, Governmental, Proprietary, and Capital Funds Budget for Fiscal Year 2024 by amending Ordinance No. 2023-28 to adjust the operating and capital budget for actual and projected expenditures related to TIRZ 2 and COVID ARPA funds (Assistant City Manager - CFO)]

FIRST READING OF ORDINANCES.

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY, TEXAS, GOVERNMENTAL PROPRIETARY AND CAPITAL FUNDS BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 BY AMENDING ORDINANCE 2023 DASH 28 TO ADJUST THE OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET FOR ACTUAL AND PROJECTED EXPENDITURES RELATED TO TS TWO AND COVID ARPA FUNDS.

MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND.

MR. HICKS.

YEAH.

UM, SO WHEN WE HAD DISCUSSED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, AND BY THE WAY, THANKS TO STAFF FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE TWO WEEKS EARLY.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THERE'S ANGIE.

UM, SO I THINK THERE WAS MAYBE SOME MISUNDERSTANDING, NOT MISINFORMATION.

I WOULD CERTAINLY NOT ACCUSE ANY OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, DISSENTING COUNCIL MEMBERS OF, YOU KNOW, TELLING LIES.

BUT, UM, THERE WAS, UH, SOMETHING THAT CAME UP THAT SAID THAT WE WERE CANCELING THE PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY, WHICH WAS NOT THE INTENT, AND IT'S NOT TRUE BEHIND THESE AMENDMENTS.

UH, AS A MATTER OF FACT, I, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ANGIE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS ON THIS, AND SHE HAD TOLD ME OVER THE PHONE THAT, UM, THAT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO PAY FOR THE PROPOSED, UH, PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.

AND SO SINCE SHE'S HERE, COULD YOU EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GONNA BE ACCOMPLISHED? SO, ON TONIGHT'S ITEM, IT ESSENTIALLY JUST TAKES AWAY THE COVID ARPA FUNDING.

IT DOES NOT, UM, STOP THE PROJECT, UM, FROM BEING IN THE C I P.

UM, WE WOULD NEED TO FIND AN ALTERNATE FUNDING SOURCE IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.

UM, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WHERE THE PROJECT IS AT CURRENTLY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PATH FORWARD.

THE CITY MANAGER MAY HAVE MORE TO ADD TO THAT.

SO I THINK WHAT ANGIE SAID IS THAT PROJECT'S NOT REMOVED FROM THE C I P, UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOGICAL FUNDING SOURCE.

WE SIT HERE TODAY, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT TO KIND OF DEVELOP AN ALTERNATE PLAN TO BRING FORWARD A DESIGN CONTRACT.

AT THAT POINT IN TIME, WE'LL COME FORWARD WITH A FUNDING PLAN, HOW TO FUND THE DESIGN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE WHETHER THERE'S FUNDS IN THE WATER, WATER, THE UTILITY FUND, OR WHETHER WE'LL HAVE TO RECOMMEND SELLING CERTIFICATES OBLIGATION.

AND JUST AS I SIT HERE TODAY, I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE, BUT THERE'LL BE A, THERE'LL BE A DESIGN

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CONTRACT AMENDMENT THAT HAS TO COME FORWARD IN ORDER TO, UH, MOVE THE PROJECT FROM WHERE IT IS TODAY.

AND AT THAT TIME, WE'LL COME UP WITH A FUNDING PLAN OR FUNDING RECOMMENDATION.

MR. BOWEN? THANK YOU, MR. BECK.

YOU SAID THAT I SWALLOW DOWN THE WRONG HOLE.

EXCUSE ME.

FIRST THING I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS IS WE WENT FROM COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO AN ORDINANCE CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS WHEN THE PLAN WASN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE DONE FOR 28 DAYS.

I THINK AT A MINIMUM THIS SHOULD BE WORKSHOPPED, AND I'M SORRY, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF CHANGES WITH A LOT OF MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT.

WE'VE SPENT $450,000 ON THE, ON THE ENGINEERING OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE NOW GONNA CANCEL AND TRY TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER FUNDING SOURCE, WHICH IF WE HAVE TO FLOAT CEOS OR, UM, COME UP WITH OTHER FUNDING THAT MAY EQUATE TO A TAX INCREASE.

UNTIL WE HAVE THAT, THAT DECISION MADE, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, SLOW DOWN, SLOW THIS ROLL JUST A LITTLE BIT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMENDING THE BUDGET WITH A NUMBER THAT GOES FROM SEVEN TO $9.7 MILLION.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

GENERALLY OUR BUDGETS ARE A LITTLE MORE DEFINED THAN THAT.

WE DON'T CHANGE BUDGETARY NUMBERS WITH NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE HAVE COMING IN YET.

UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT PARKING MONEY FOR A FIRE STATION IN, IN WHATEVER FORM UNTIL WE'RE READY TO BUILD THE FIRE STATION.

I'M SORRY.

BUT WITH THE RATES THAT WE HAVE TO GO FOR RIGHT NOW, IF WE WERE TO HAVE TO BORROW MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE, THAT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.

WE'RE AT LEAST TWO YEARS AWAY FROM BUILDING THAT FIRE STATION.

ANYTHING WE DO NOW WILL COST US AN EXTRA $4 MILLION TO BUILD THAT FIRE STATION JUST IN UTILITIES AND RIGHT OF WAYS AND ROADWAYS THAT IF WE WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER, THE DEVELOPER WILL GET TO.

AND I REALLY DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING THE CITIZEN TO WASTE ANOTHER $3 MILLION ON BUILDING A FIRE STATION THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CITIZENS TO STAFF, BECAUSE WE ARE A VOLUNTEER STATION AND WE ALL WANNA KEEP EVERYBODY VOLUNTEER.

AND THE ROADS AREN'T THERE.

THE, THE HOUSES AREN'T THERE.

THERE'S SOME HOUSES AND THERE ARE GONNA BE MORE HOUSES.

BUT THE AREAS, THE FIRE STATIONS THAT CURRENTLY COVER THAT ARE FOUR, WHICH IS THE BUSIEST STATION IN THE, IN THE CITY, AND FIVE, WHICH IS THE LEAST ACTIVE IN THE CITY, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A STAFF THAT CAN RUN OUT OF FIVE AND BE DISPATCHED WHEN THE CALLS COME IN.

SO I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUMPING THE BRIDGE GUN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS.

I, AT A MINIMUM, I'M GONNA BE AN ABSTAIN ON THIS AND MOST LIKELY A NO VOTE UNLESS WE GO THROUGH AND ACTUALLY DO THE PLANNING AND STOP LEGISLATING FROM THE SEAT OF OUR PANTS.

THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE SNOWBALL EFFECT OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE MAKING DECISIONS SITTING UP HERE, OR YOU'RE HAVING MEETINGS WITH FOUR OR FIVE OF YOUR FRIENDS THAT SOME OF US AREN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN.

THIS HAS ALL BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE DARK OF NIGHT, EVERY BIT OF IT.

THERE WAS NO CITYWIDE OR COUNCIL WIDE MEETING FOR ANY OF THIS.

THE FIRST MEETING WAS WHEN IT SHOWED UP LAST WEEK, AND WE ASKED FOR A PLAN, NOT AN ORDINANCE CHANGE, NOT A BUDGET AMENDMENT, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

SO I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY SLOW THE ROLE ON THIS AT A MINIMUM WORKSHOP.

THANKS.

YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THERE WAS NO MISINFORMATION.

THERE WAS CERTAINLY NO LIES.

IN FACT, IT WAS MADE CLEAR JUST NOW THAT WE'VE EFFECTIVELY CANCELED THIS PROJECT.

UH, YOU DON'T JUST FIND FOUR TO $5 MILLION TO BUILD AN OP CENTER FOR THE DALLAS SALMON TREATMENT PLANT.

UM, SO TO SAY, WE'LL JUST COME UP WITH THAT MONEY LATER IS, IS A MYTH.

UM, I SAID IT LAST TIME, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN TONIGHT.

UH, THE COVID FUNDS, WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT OP CENTER.

THE OP CENTER IS WHAT ENABLES OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF TO STAY SAFE DURING A HURRICANE WHILE KEEPING OUR WASTEWATER AND WATER TREATMENT GOING.

SOMETHING WHICH OTHER CITIES AROUND US HAVE STRUGGLED WITH IN THE PAST.

SO NOW THEY'RE EITHER GOING TO BE NOT KEPT SAFE OR NOT KEEP OUR SYSTEMS FUNCTIONAL.

AS FOR HOW WE'LL PAY FOR IT LATER.

WELL, WE HEARD IT HERE, CO BONDS, WHICH MEANS YOUR PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP OR SOME OTHER SERVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING IS GONNA BE CUT, PERIOD.

THE NEXT OPTION, WE DON'T DO IT.

WELL, OKAY, THAT'S A RISK IN THE NEXT STORM.

IF Y'ALL WANNA TAKE A RISK WITH HURRICANES, I WON'T.

OR WE PAY FOR IT BY INCREASING UTILITY.

SOMEBODY MENTIONED LAST WEEK THAT, OH, WELL THAT'S A WATER THING THAT OUGHT TO BE PAID OUT OF, OUT OF OUR WATER UTILITY FUND.

OKAY? BUT WE ALREADY HAVE ALL

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THAT MONEY TARGETED TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS OR ACTUALLY PROVIDING THE WATER AND SEWER TREATMENT, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GONNA UP YOUR UTILITY RATES.

AND WE KNOW HOW MUCH A PUBLIC LOVES EVERY TIME WE DO THAT.

UM, I OVERHEARD THAT MR. HICKS FOUND THIS MONEY AT THE TURS, THEREFORE HE GETS TO DECIDE HOW IT'S SPENT.

NO, FOLKS, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.

THIS IS OUR CITY'S MONEY.

THIS IS OUR TAXPAYER'S DOLLARS.

AND WE CAN'T SIT UP HERE AND SAY WE'RE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

IF WE FIND MONEY THAT HAD NO COMMITMENT TO BE SPENT, AND WE GO ON A SPENDING SPREE WITH IT, IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

UM, IT'S CHILDISH.

AND WE'RE PLAYING GAMES WITH MULTIMILLION DOLLAR PROJECTS.

THE SAVINGS THAT WE WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT IN THE, UH, COST TO BUILD THE DALLAS SALMON PLANT WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT IN FOR SOMEBODY TO, TO BUILD IT AND WERE COMPLAINTS, SAY IT WAS OVERBUILT BECAUSE IT WAS RATED FOR, I BELIEVE, A CAT FOUR HURRICANE.

WELL, THE, THE AMOUNT WE WOULD SAVE BY DROPPING IT TO ONLY PROTECT IN A CAT THREE IS LESS THAN WE'RE GONNA SPEND ON OUR REDESIGN IF WE EVER DO IT AT ALL.

WE'RE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH MONEY.

WE'RE NOT BEING RESPONSIBLE WITH MONEY.

WE'VE ALREADY SPENT, WE'VE, WE'RE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO PASS THE SAVINGS ON TO THE TAXPAYERS.

INSTEAD, WE'RE FUNDING PET PROJECTS AND TELLING PEOPLE, REMEMBER THIS AT ELECTION TIME AND SHAMEFUL.

THAT'S THAT A SILLY SPEECH.

GO ON, JOHN.

HELPS IF I TURN IT ON.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I, I DON'T WANNA KEEP, YOU KNOW, ECHOING THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID.

I, I AGREE WITH, WITH BOWEN AND, AND MR. AND MR. TRESSLER.

I, I THINK THAT IF WE DO THIS, IT IS GOING TO EFFECTIVELY CANCEL IT.

UM, AND, AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

NOW, THE LAST DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING, UH, WITH THE ARGUMENT WAS, WAS BROUGHT UP THAT ARPA FUNDS SHOULD NOT BE BUILT, USED TO BUILD THIS.

BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT ARPA FUNDS WERE MADE FOR.

UH, ARPA FUNDS WORKED TO AT LEAST ORIGINALLY MEANT TO BUILD FIRE STATIONS.

UH, IT WAS.

AND THEN EVEN HERE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE TRYING TO DO PULL FROM ONE POCKET AND PUT IN THE OTHER.

WE'RE GONNA SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT ARPA FUNDS, BUT NOW WE'RE JUST GONNA PUT 'EM TO THE POLICE AND TAKE THAT MONEY AND JUST PUT IT TOWARD A FIRE STATION.

THAT'S BASICALLY JUST SAYING, I'M GONNA PUT ARPA MONEY TO THE FIRE STATION, WHICH IT WAS NOT INTENDED TO DO FOR THE, FOR THE FIRE STATION ITSELF.

WE JUST FINISHED THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND AS FRUSTRATING AS IT WAS TO ME, THE IN THERE WE WENT THROUGH THE C I P, IT WAS THE FIRST ONE, AND THE FIRE STATION ONE AND FIRE STATION SEVEN WERE BROUGHT UP AND NO ONE EVEN PUSHED IT FORWARD.

WE WENT ALONG WITH WHAT WAS THERE.

AND SO NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S BECOME THE BIG PRIORITY, EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE AHEAD OF IT.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE FIRE STATION ISN'T NEEDED, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHY WE HAVE TO JUMP TO IT RIGHT THIS SECOND WHEN WE KNOW THAT WE NEED THIS, THE DALLAS SALMON BUILDING.

UM, SO THE OTHER THING THAT I, I, I WANT TO TALK TO AND, AND I WANNA, LET'S JUST KIND OF PULL BACK OFF OF THE, THE FIRE STATION IS THE, IS THE CAMERAS FOR THE HOAS.

SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS WE WOULD GIVE THE, THE GRANT PROGRAM OF $200,000 TO FUND THE INSULATION OF FLOCK, LICENSE FOOT CAMERAS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS AS REQUESTED BY HOAS.

MY ISSUE HERE IS THIS IS A HUGE INVASION OF, OF PRIVACY.

WE'RE PUTTING VERY HIGH TECHNICAL CAMERAS AT TO AVAILABLE TO H O A BOARDS.

I I WOULD HAVE A FEELING THAT THE MEMBERS OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD HAVE A, WOULD HAVE A FIT.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT THAT JUST, IF WE JUST TAKE THE KIND OF WHAT'S, I THINK IT'S KIND OF FAMOUS.

WHAT'S MR. SAUNDERS AND MR. TILLER ARE FIGHTING OVER RIGHT NOW? JUST IMAGINE NOW IF WE HAVE THE SURVEILLANCE, WE COULD HAVE PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WHO'S CHEATING ON WHO AND HAVE THE H O A COME AND TRACK THESE THINGS.

UH, OKAY, WELL, I I, I ASK, WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL DEBATE THAT.

SO, UH, IF YOU DIDN'T HEAR MR. MR MR. LONG SAID THAT THAT'S NOT HOW THEY WORK.

UM, SO, SO ANYWAY, SO WE'LL COME BACK AND, AND DEBATE THAT PIECE OF IT LATER.

SO I DO NOT THINK THAT THE CITY SHOULD BE FUNDING BASICALLY HIGH LEVEL SECURITY CAMERAS FOR HOAS ANYWAY.

LET THE HOAS FUND THEIR OWN CAMERAS.

THE POLICE THEMSELVES HAVE BUILT

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THESE GRIDS AND THEY'VE ALREADY DECIDED WHERE THEY THINK THEY'RE NECESSARY.

SO I DON'T SEE WHY PUTTING THESE IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVING THE CITY FUND THEM, IT MAKES EVEN, MAKES EVEN MAKES ANY SENSE IF I CAN TALK.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

SO I MEAN, I TEND TO AGREE WITH YOU.

I DON'T REALLY LOVE THE FLOCK CAMERAS, BUT LET'S BRING THE POLICE CHIEF UP AND ASK HIM ABOUT THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS BEFORE, SO WE'LL JUST, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

YOU WANNA CUT? NO, IT'S NOT MY FAVORITE THING, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT HOW THEY WORK.

WE'VE ALREADY DONE THIS, BUT WE'LL REDO IT .

SO DO THE, UH, DO PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO WHO RUNS THROUGH THERE? OR IS IT PROTECTED TO ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT? SO THE H O A IF AN H O A FUNDS THE CAMERAS AND CAPTAIN LEE MAKES SURE I DON'T SAY ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S WRONG.

WELL, IN THIS CASE, WE WOULD FUND THE CAMERAS, BUT YEAH, WELL, THEY WOULD BE OWNED BY THE H O A.

SO BECAUSE THERE'S A MONTHLY FEE, IF, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THE, THE WAY Y'ALL ARE SETTING UP THE GRANT, IF, IF THE GRANT PROGRAM WERE TO HAPPEN, THE HOAS WOULD OWN THE CAMERAS AND THE RIGHTS TO ACCESS THOSE CAMERAS, THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

UH, NOW THOSE CAMERAS, THEY CAN ONLY, THEY CAN ONLY SEARCH THE, THE SAME THING THAT IF THEY PUT VIDEO CAMERAS THERE, EVERYONE AND THEY WANTED TO SPEND THE TIME GOING THROUGH A VIDEO CAMERA LOOKING AT IMAGES OF VEHICLES, THEY CAN STILL DO THAT.

OBVIOUSLY THE FLOCK CAMERA SPEED THAT UP BECAUSE THEY CAN QUERY COLORS OF VEHICLES, MAKES OF VEHICLES, LICENSE PLATES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

AT LEAST I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.

RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT TO HAVE ANY CITY MONEY GOING TO BEING ABLE TO QUERY THE VEHICLES LIKE THAT.

AND I BELIEVE HOW THEY DID IT IN GALVESTON IS THEY WOULD PUT THE FLOCK CAMERA THERE.

YOU WOULD THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR IT, BUT IT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY.

HOWEVER, THAT GOES, IF, IF, IF IT'S OWNED BY THE H O A, THE H O A HAS RIGHTS TO IT, NOW THE HOAS CAN SIGN THOSE RIGHTS AWAY.

OR IN ESSENCE, IN THEIR CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, THEY CAN SAY, WE WILL FUND SOME OF THIS.

AND THEN YOU ALLOW ACCESS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU GIVE UP YOUR RIGHT TO QUERY SOME OF THAT DATA.

THEY MAY BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

IN ESSENCE, THEN IT EXPANDS OUR SEARCH CAPABILITIES WITH CAMERAS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE HOAS.

AND YES.

SO THE ONLY WAY I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT, AND GOOD POINT YOU BROUGHT UP WOULD BE TO, UH, THAT WE OWN THEM AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RIGHTS TO SEARCH THE CAMERAS.

AND, AND WE WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT, UH, FOR OUR, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S CONCERN IS, IS IF WE CAN EXPAND THAT TECHNOLOGICAL NET OF CAMERAS, THEN WE EXPAND OUR ABILITIES TO SEARCH THOSE CRIME SPECIFIC INTO THE INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

BUT HOAS THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IF THEY DID A STIPULATION WHERE YOU SAID YOU GIVE YOUR ACCESS SOLELY TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND THEN IT'S ONLY USED FOR LEGITIMATE LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES.

ALL THE AUDIT LOGS AND STUFF ARE STILL THE SAME.

THERE'S STILL AN ABILITY TO CHECK WHO'S PULLING THAT DATA OR LOOKING AT THAT DATA.

BUT IF THEY DID IT WHERE IT WAS SOLELY US, THEN THOSE AUDITS WOULD ONLY BE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL OR THOSE ACCESSES OR, OR RE OR QUERIES WOULD ONLY BE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL.

OKAY.

THE CAMERAS THAT WE HAVE NOW FLOCK CAMERAS THAT WE OWN.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ACCESS TO THEM? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

JUST US AND FLOCK.

THANK YOU.

I WOULD LIKE TO, SOMETHING THAT THE CHIEF HIT ON THE HOAS CAN STILL BUY 'EM IF THEY WANT TO.

WELL, THAT'S, BUT HERE'S THE DEAL.

IF THEY BUY THEM, Y'ALL AUTOMATICALLY GET RIGHTS TO 'EM BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS THROUGH FLOCK.

SO EVEN IF THE HOAS BUY IT, ONE HO A HAS BOUGHT SOMETHING, IF THE HOAS GO OUT AND SPEND THE MONEY, THEN THEY HAVE NO CHOICE PD.

I CAN'T SAY I'M BUYING THESE CAMERAS AND YOU CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO 'EM.

DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

THEY AUTOMATICALLY GET ACCESS TO 'EM.

IT'S A NATIONWIDE NETWORK.

THE DAY THE VIDEO CA, CAPTAIN LEE, UNLESS I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS TOLD DURING MY, THAT'S NOT .

OKAY, I'M SORRY.

THEN OAS COULD RESTRICT THEM.

THEY HAVE TO ALLOW US ACCESS.

OKAY.

THAT WAS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I WAS TOLD.

IF THE H O A OWNS THE CAMERAS, THEY HAVE TO ALLOW US ACCESS.

NO, BECAUSE THEN WE WOULD BE ENCROACHING ON A PRIVATELY OWNED SO CAMERA IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THEIR PERMISSION TO ACCESS THOSE.

RIGHT.

THE FLOCK CAMERA GRANT PROGRAM THAT I WAS LOOKING AT, THAT I WAS WANTING TO DESIGN, I I, I DO AGREE.

I WAS THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE TWO MORE WEEKS OUT BEFORE WE DO THIS.

GET SOME OF THE INFORMATION, BE ABLE TO GO DIGEST IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND GO FROM THERE.

THE FLOCK CAMERA GRANT PROGRAM I WAS LOOKING AT WAS TO HELP HOAS GET 'EM FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND BE ABLE TO FIT THEM INTO THEIR BUDGET.

SO INSTEAD OF SPENDING $2,500 FOR THE CAMERA, THEY SPEND 1250 FOR THE CAMERA THE FIRST YEAR, AND THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEY CAN, IT HELPS THEM TO EASE IT INTO THEIR BUDGET RATHER THAN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE

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SPENDING THIS MUCH MONEY ON CAMERAS AND YOU'RE HAVING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE MONEY ON THE HOA SIDE.

IF YOU ARE ABLE TO SLOWLY EMPHASIZE THOSE INTO A BUDGET, THEN IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR THE HOAS, WHICH EXPANDS THE NETWORK FOR Y'ALL.

THESE CAMERAS, I TALKED TO SOME HARRIS COUNTY DEPUTY THAT, THAT LIVES IN MY COMMUNITY.

THESE CAMERAS ARE GAME CHANGERS, PERIOD.

THEY HAVE SOLVED MANY CRIMES ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR THE SOUND OF IT.

AM I NOT CORRECT CAPTAIN LEE? ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

THESE AREN'T WHEN YOU START HAVING CAMERAS, WHETHER YOU HAVE 'EM ON YOUR BUILDING LIKE WE DO, OR YOU HAVE 'EM IN THE FLOCK CAMERA.

MY ATTORNEY FOR MY H O A, AS SOON AS SHE WAS TOLD, WE HAD CAMERAS SAID, YOU MUST INSTITUTE A SURVEILLANCE POLICY.

WE HAVE ONE IN EFFECT.

NOW THAT SAYS PLAIN AND SIMPLE, THE CAMERAS CAN ONLY BE ACCESSED FOR THIS EXPLICIT INFORMATION.

THE PENALTY FOR DOING IT OTHERWISE COULD BE COST THE HOAS MILLIONS.

'CAUSE YOU COULD GET SUED OTHERWISE.

SO THE THE INVASION OF PRIVACY, I DON'T SEE, IT'S A PICTURE, IT'S NOT A VIDEO.

EVERY PICTURE I'VE SEEN IS MORE, BEEN MORE OF THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE LICENSE PLATE AREA.

YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE WHO'S IN THE CAR IN THE PICTURES I'VE SEEN.

BUT IT DOES ALLOW PD, LIKE THE INCIDENT, WE HAD RED CAR, Y'ALL WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO PULL UP RED CARS IN MY COMMUNITY AND WE'D HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT IF THE PER, IF THE PERSON WOULDN'T HAVE COME FORWARD LIKE THEY DID POTENTIALLY.

YES.

YEAH.

SO THE FLAT CAMERA PROGRAM, WE HAVE IT IN IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

I'VE HEARD.

I'VE NEVER, I'VE YET TO HEAR ANY TRUE NEGATIVES OF IT.

IT'S NOT A BIG BROTHER PROGRAM.

UM, I DO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CITY HELP HOAS TO BE ABLE TO GET THESE, EXPAND THIS PROGRAM AND BE ABLE TO SLOWLY BRING THEM INTO THEIR BUDGETS RATHER THAN A SINGLE YEAR HIT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH.

AND I THINK WE CLEARLY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A, A REAL GRANT PROGRAM AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THERE AND THE RESTRICTIONS AND REALLY WORK THROUGH THAT, UH, OVER TIME, PUT THAT TOGETHER.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS IT, AS IT RELATES TO THE COVID MONEY AND IN PARTICULAR THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING, I MEAN, I VOTED AGAINST IT PROBABLY FOUR TIMES OVER THE COURSE OF FIVE YEARS AND I'M STILL AGAINST IT.

UH, I MEAN PRIMARILY BECAUSE IT'S A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT COSTS $8 MILLION, THAT'S $800 A SQUARE FOOT.

UH, IT IS NOT NECESSARY, UH, TO BE BUILT THE WAY IT IS.

AND WHEN YOU SAY THAT THEY OPERATE THE DALLAS SALMON PLANT YEAH, KIND OF.

BUT IT'S ACTUALLY OPERATED, YOU KNOW, VIA COMPUTERS AND CAN BE OPERATED REMOTELY.

AND IT COULD BE OPERATED IF THEY WERE IN THE PD AND THEY WERE BUNKERED UP IN THE PD.

UH, AND IN FACT, IF A CATEGORY FOUR STORM WAS COMING OVER, YOU WOULDN'T BE IN THAT BUILDING.

UH, YOU WOULD PROBABLY BE IN THE BUNKER.

AND IF NOT, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY NOT BE GOING OUTSIDE TO MAKE ANY REPAIRS TO THAT.

AND AS SOON AS THE STORM PASSED, THEN WE COULD BRING PEOPLE OVER THERE.

I JUST FIND IT TO BE FAR TOO EXPENSIVE FOR WHAT WE NEED.

I ALSO THINK IF YOU GUYS ABSOLUTELY WANT TO DO IT, YOU SHOULD PROGRAM IT INTO THE WATER MONEY AND, UH, THE UTILITY FUND AND, AND PAY FOR IT THAT WAY.

AND THE ARPA FUNDS CAN BE USED TO PAY FOR THE FIRE STATION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE NEEDED.

AND IT KIND OF ALSO OFFSETS YOUR ARGUMENT ABOUT RAISING TAXES BECAUSE THE FIRE STATION IS ABSOLUTELY EVENTUALLY NEEDED.

IT IS NEEDED IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THE DALLAS AM BUILDING IS EVER NEEDED AT $8 MILLION.

I WOULD HOPE IT NEVER GETS FUNDED.

AND IF IT IS, THEN I'D HOPE IT IS SEVERELY LESS THAN THAT.

MORE IN THE $3 MILLION RANGE.

I'LL PROBABLY VOTE AGAINST THAT ANYWAY.

AND SO WHEN WE SAY THAT THIS IS AN OPERATION TO RAISE TAXES OR RAISE DEBT, YOU'RE GOING TO PAY THE DEBT ON EITHER ONE OF THE PROJECTS IF YOU'RE MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK IN THIS CASE, WE CAN JUST KILL A PROJECT AND DON'T NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND PUT THE MONEY TO SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY GOING TO NEED TO BE DONE IN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE YEARS, WHICH IS THE FIRE STATION.

AND SO CALLING A, UH, PLANNING AND HOLDING MONEY FOR A FIRE STATION THAT'S NEEDED IN THREE YEARS, CALLING THAT FRIVOLOUS OR FLYING BY THE SEAT OF YOUR PANTS, I THINK IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

IT'S, IT'S NOT FRIVOLOUS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NEEDED.

AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT FLYING BY THE CEDAR PANTS.

IT'S TAKING A LONG-TERM VIEW OF HOW TO GET THIS MONEY AND HOW TO FULFILL OUR LONG-TERM PLAN OF, FOR WEST SIDE BUILD OUT.

SO I, I GUESS I TAKE IT COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.

I THINK IT'S FRIVOLOUS TO PAY FOR A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ADJACENT TO A POWER PLANT OR ADJACENT TO A SEWER PLANT THAT COSTS $8 MILLION.

I THINK THAT IS FRIVOLOUS.

MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO, UH, CALL THE VOTE.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO SAY WHERE THEY STAND ON THIS.

I HAVE IT.

SURE.

A SECOND.

.

LET'S VOTE ON IT.

SECOND VOTE TO CALL THE QUESTION.

YES.

YES.

SAME THING.

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ALL RIGHT, MR. BOWEN.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UM, AS FAR AS THE FLOCK CAMERAS, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE THINKS THAT THEY'RE NOT A GOOD IDEA.

I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO PAY FOR 'EM FOR HOAS WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY CITIZENS THAT DON'T LIVE IN HOAS, THEY WON'T BE AFFORD.

I THOUGHT IT WAS ON, I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT AGAINST THE FLOCK CAMERAS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY IS.

UM, WHAT I'M AGAINST IS PAYING FOR 'EM WITH HO FOR HOAS.

WHEN HOAS DO HAVE A FUNDING MECHANISM, THEY CAN PAY FOR 'EM OUT OF THEIR DUES.

I DON'T THINK WE'D BE SERVING ALL THE CITIZENS BECAUSE NOT ALL THE CITIZENS LIVE IN AREAS H O A AREAS.

UM, SO THERE'D BE PLENTY OF CITIZENS THAT MAY WANT THOSE CAMERAS ON THE END OF THEIR STREET, BUT THEY'RE NOT AFFORDED THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN AN H O A I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A, UM, IF THE CITIZENS WANT 'EM, THE H O A, I MEAN, IF THE HOAS WANT 'EM, THEN THEY CAN PAY FOR 'EM THROUGH THE CITY.

THEY PAY THE CITY.

THE CITY OWNS THE CAMERAS.

NO, H O A OWNS THE CAMERAS.

THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY FOR BIG BROTHER SOMEBODY GETTING MAD, WANTING TO SEE WHEN THEIR WIFES LEAVING DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

ALL THE POLICIES IN THE WORLD ONLY PROTECT PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY FOLLOW THE RULES.

AND MOST OF THE TIME, IF SOMEBODY'S GONNA ABUSE IT, THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE POLICIES.

ANYWAY.

THANK YOU MR. JUSTICE.

I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND TO STEP OUT THE FLOCK CAMERA GRANT PROGRAM.

SECOND, I ASSUME YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IT? MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

OH, GO.

OH, I DUNNO.

I PUT THE BLOCK CAMERAS IN THERE BECAUSE OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ALREADY, UH, MANAGES A NUMBER OF OTHER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS IN PEARLAND LAND.

AND THEY HAD A PROGRAM SIMILAR THAT EXPANDED OUT THE THE NETWORK.

ALL THIS IS, IS EXPANDING OUT A SYSTEM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE.

ALL THIS SYSTEM HAS DONE IS CATCH MURDER SUSPECTS.

CATCH GUYS WHO STEAL YOUR CATALYTIC CONVERTERS.

ALL RIGHT.

CATCH GUYS WHO STEAL YOUR CARS.

THAT'S ALL IT DOES.

IF YOU DON'T WANT THAT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU, YOU JUST GO TO THE HOA MEETING AND YOU TELL 'EM, NO, WE DON'T WANT 'EM.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE TO, TO VOTE AGAINST THAT.

WE'RE NOT AGAINST THE CAMERAS, WE'RE AGAINST WHO'S PAYING FOR 'EM AGAIN.

AND IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU THINK THAT, UH, YOU DON'T THINK THAT, I GUESS THAT'S AN EXCELLENT, YEAH, THAT'S AN EXCELLENT ARGUMENT.

ALL I CAN SAY IS THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY THAT, AND, AND I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING THAT WE COULD SPEND MONEY ON THAT YOU WOULD HAVE WHERE YOU DIRECTLY CAN IMPACT, YOU KNOW, SAFETY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I, AND THE THING IS, IT'S NOT A NUISANCE IT AS OPPOSED TO THE OLD RED LIGHT CAMERAS, WHICH WERE PUNITIVE AGAINST YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN.

THIS IS PROTECTING US AGAINST THE PEOPLE WHO YOU LIVE HERE TO.

YOU LIVE HERE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THESE PEOPLE STEALING YOUR STUFF.

IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE.

SO IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT A HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION NEEDS A LITTLE HELP, COULD USE A LITTLE HELP IN GETTING THESE, THIS SYSTEM STARTING AND MAKING THE WHOLE SYSTEM SAFER, THEN VOTE AGAINST IT.

SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THESE CAMERAS? SO IF YOU'RE JUST A, I DON'T KNOW, YOU'RE JUST A SUBDIVISION, YOU WANNA BUY ONE CAMERA, HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY VERSUS THE LE THE RATE LEAK CITY PAYS FOR THE CAMERAS PRICE? 'CAUSE WE HAVE SAME PRICE.

IT'S THE SAME, IT'S THE SAME PRICE, EXACT PRICE.

IF YOU BUY ONE OR 50 OF THEM, IS THE MONTHLY DUES THE SAME PER CAMERA? IT'S ANNUAL.

YOU BUY ONE OR A A HUNDRED.

ALL THAT'S SURPRISING TO ME.

IT'S AN ANNUAL FEE.

CORRECT.

CAPTAIN LEE, IT'S SUBSCRIPTION, ANNUAL, MONTHLY, WHATEVER.

IT'S DIVIDE OR MULTIPLY.

YEAH.

I JUST WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, ACHIEVE SCALE AT SOME POINT, BUT OKAY.

AND WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT IS THEN TO GO BACK TO, TO COUNCILMAN BOWEN'S EXAMPLE THERE IS THAT THEY WOULD, THIS H O A WOULD PAY US, WE WOULD OWN THE CAMERA, UH, THEREBY PUTTING IN A LEVEL OF SEPARATION THAT I THINK PEOPLE INSIDE THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WOULD PROBABLY APPRECIATE AND THEY COULD ACHIEVE THEIR GOAL AND UH, AND IT WOULD JUST ADD TO OUR NETWORK AND THEY WOULD BE THE ONES ON THE HOOK FOR THAT PIECE OF IT.

YEAH.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS AMENDMENT? YES, I, TO BE CLEAR, I SUPPORT MORE FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE CITY.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB HERE.

MY ISSUE IS THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING AN OPTIMIZED DISTRIBUTION

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OF THEM WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE HO A SPONSOR THEM.

I WOULD RATHER SEE OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WORK WITH FLOCK TO COME UP WITH A BIGGER GRID AND DISTRIBUTE THEM AROUND THE CITY.

SO CAN YOU, AND THEN YOU GO, GO AND THEN SAUNDERS WILL GO, NO, HOW ABOUT THIS THEN HOW ABOUT WE JUST TAKE THE WHOLE 200 K AND WE GIVE IT TO THE COPS FOR, AND THEN THEY DISTRIBUTE 'EM FOR EIGHT FOR FLOCK CAMERAS.

YEAH.

AND IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ONCE ONE NEAR THEIR, NEAR THEIR HOUSE, THEY CALL 'EM, YOU KNOW, THEY EVALUATE THE PROPER PLACE TO PUT THESE IS WHAT YOU'D SAY.

YEAH.

SO ON THE FLOCK PROGRAM, LET ME ON.

SO ON THE FLOCK CAMERA, I HAD, I DID A, A MEETING WITH FLOCK.

I TALKED TO CAPTAIN LEE VERSUS VIA NOT, VERSUS VIA EMAIL.

AND PD DOES GET INVOLVED WITH HOW TO PLACE THESE CAMERAS.

IT'S NOT LIKE THE H O A GOES, I WANT ONE HERE, HERE.

THEY PICKED WHERE THE LOCATIONS WERE IN MY H O A HOAS ARE MORE DENSELY POPULATED PORTION OF THE CITY VERSUS OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY.

YES, WE DO HAVE A MECHANISM.

HERE'S THE DEAL.

EVEN IF WE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING WE PAY YOU, OKAY, WE PAY THE CITY FOR ONE YEAR.

THIS IS A YEARLY RECURRING FEE OF $25, 2,500 A CAMERA THE FOLLOWING YEAR.

WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T WANT IT.

WE DON'T WANNA PAY IT.

WE, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE ON THE HOOK FOR IT COMPLETELY.

VERSUS THE H O A CHIPPING IN AND SPLITTING IT.

THE PROGRAM I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

EITHER WAY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, THE EITHER WAY.

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET MORE OF THESE FLOCK CAMERAS OUT.

I HAD TWO CAR, I HAD TWO CARS STOLEN IN A MONTH FROM MY COMMUNITY.

I HAD, I CAN'T EVEN THINK, ME AND CHIEF TALKED ABOUT THIS.

I HAD MULTIPLE BREAK-INS OF VEHICLES IN LESS THAN A MONTH.

THESE CAMERAS COULD HAVE POTENTIALLY HELPED THEM TO TRACK THE PEOPLE AS THEY WERE LEAVING THE COMMUNITY AND GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHERE THEY WERE GOING AND POSSIBLY EVEN HELP RECOVER THE VEHICLES OR THE ITEMS STOLEN.

IF I UNDERSTAND THE PROGRAM CORRECTLY, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE FIRE STATION, WE HAVE GOT TO START MOVING FORWARD.

NOW EVERYBODY'S SAYING, WELL, FOUR'S RIGHT THERE, TWO'S RIGHT, FIVE'S RIGHT THERE.

IT'S NOT A STRAIGHT SHOT TO GET TO THESE SCENES.

SO WHENEVER THESE, THIS DEVELOPMENT GETS BUILT, YOU GOT A LOT.

IT, IT, YOUR RESPONSE TIMES ARE A LOT LONGER THAN YOU THINK.

I DRIVE THE TRUCK.

SO I KNOW FOR A FACT YOU GOT, WHETHER YOU'RE GOING DOWN 96 STRAIGHT, YOU STILL GOT STOP LIGHTS, TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

WE HAVE GOT TO START LOOKING AT THE FUNDING FOR THE FIRE STATION.

IF THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT OFF TWO MORE WEEKS, WE NEED TO DO A WORKSHOP ON IT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO START MOVING FORWARD WITH A FIRE STATION.

WE CAN'T WAIT TWO YEARS TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S BUILD A FIRE STATION.

WE HAVE TO START MOVING FORWARD.

NOW THAT AREA'S BUILDING OUT QUICKLY.

UM, EITHER WAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE, WHETHER IT'S THE FIRE STATION, WHICH COULD BE $10 MILLION, OR I'M JUST THROWING NUMBERS UP THERE.

I DON'T KNOW THE NUMBERS RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

OR THE SAL PLANT FOR 6 MILLION OR FIRE STATION FOR 6 MILLION.

SALMON FOR 6 MILLION.

WE'VE GOT TO START MOVING FORWARD.

I AGREE ON THE BOTH OF THEM.

EITHER WAY, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A SOURCE OF INCOME TO PAY FOR ONE OR THE OTHER.

THIS RIGHT NOW WOULD GIVE US AT LEAST SOME MONEY TO START THE PRELIMINARY.

IF I UNDERSTOOD MR. BAUMGARTNER AND, AND, AND ANGIE CORRECTLY, TO START LOOKING AT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO GET IT BUILT, THE AREA WE GOTTA GO TO, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

I BELIEVE WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.

MAYOR CALL THE QUESTION I'LL THE REQUIRES A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND.

OKAY.

QUESTION.

THIS IS THE MOTION, THE MOTION TO AMEND? NO, I'LL CALL THE QUESTION VOTE ON THE MOTION OF TO AMEND IS A PREVAILING MOTION.

SO WE'RE VOTING ON THAT FIRST.

THEN WE WILL VOTE ON THE WHOLE THING.

CAN YOU STATE THE MISSION? WE, WE FOUND THAT TALK AMEND IS TO STRIP OUT THE AMENDMENT, TO TAKE OUT THE SLOT CAMERAS.

BUT, BUT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON IS ACTUALLY THE MOTION TO CALL THE QUESTION TO END DEBATE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.

OKAY.

DO WE NEED TO, WELL, THERE WAS TWO MORE PEOPLE UP ON THE DEAL.

I I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.

I THINK WE'VE HAD ENOUGH CALL THE QUESTION, THERE'S NO DEBATE CALL THE QUESTION.

SO WE'LL CALL, WE'RE VOTING TO CALL THE QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE QUESTION? WHAT ARE YOUR QUESTION REAL QUICK, REAL QUICK.

THE, UH, I BROUGHT TO TO D SCOTT WHO'S ON THE, UH, T BOARD AND SO I JUST WANTED, SHE HAD SAID THAT THERE MAY BE A MILLION DOLLARS LIABILITY THAT'S FOR THE ALAMO DROP DROUGHT HOUSE SHOULD HAVE COME.

SO THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE THE AMENDMENT.

THIS IS WHAT I ASKED YOU.

OH, THIS IS ABOUT, OKAY, THIS IS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.

OKAY, NOW LET'S VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT.

UH, OKAY, LET'S VOTE.

THIS IS THE MOTION TO AMEND.

WE'RE COMING BACK TO IT AFTER THE MOTION TO AMEND.

[01:40:02]

TOMMY'S THERE.

RUN TOMMY.

I'M RUNNING, WHAT ARE WE VOTING ON THE AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENT MOTION TO AMEND, PULL THE FLAW CAMERAS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

MOTION FAILS.

ALRIGHT, NOW.

OKAY.

YOU, YOU DON'T NEED IT.

I GOT YOU.

SO DO WE HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THAT? IS THERE LIKE A MILLION DOLLAR LIABILITY WITH THAT ALAMO, UH, DRAFT HOUSE? I'M, I'M SURE I'M BUTCHERING AWAY THAT ALAMO DRAFT HOUSE.

YEAH, SO THERE IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE, AND I'M LOOKING AT ANGIE, BUT IT EXPIRES AT THE END OF 24.

AND SO AS WE'VE LOOKED AT THE DOLLARS THAT ARE OUT THERE, I MEAN, WE'VE TAKEN THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

WE DON'T SEE ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE MOVING FORWARD WITH A VIABLE PROJECT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

THEY MAY CHANGE THEIR MIND, THEY MAY COME IN AND ASK FOR ADDITIONAL DOLLARS, BUT TODAY THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED ANYTHING FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT RISK IS PRETTY SMALL.

I THINK WHAT WE HAVE CONTINUALLY TOLD COUNSEL WAS THERE'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN AND $9.7 MILLION AVAILABLE FROM THE TURS DOLLARS.

SO IT'S BEEN A, IT'S ADMITTEDLY BEEN A SOFT NUMBER BECAUSE WE DON'T CONTROL ALL THE PIECES EXACTLY YET.

OKAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, AS, AS WE LOOK, AS WE LOOK TO MOVE AT, JUST SAY A FIRE STATION FORWARD, IF THE COUNCIL VOTES THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST STEP IN THAT PROCESS IS MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY THE RIGHT SITE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A DESIGN PROCESS.

AND SO AS THAT PROCESS TAKES PLACE, WE'LL UNDERSTAND HOW MANY DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE FOR A FIRE STATION, HOW MANY DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE FOR OTHER PROGRAMS. AND THEN COUNSEL WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL DECISIONS TO MAKE IF WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR IF THEY'RE SURPLUS FUNDING.

AND ON THE DRAFT HOUSE DO, ON THE DRAFT HOUSE DEAL, UH, WHAT'S, HOW DO THEY ACTUALLY GET THAT MONEY? IT ACTUALLY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OPERATIONAL AND UP AND RUNNING.

WELL, YEAH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, BUT CLEARLY THEY HAVE TO HAVE, CLEARLY IT'S TIED TO AN ALAMO DRAFTHOUSE PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

IF THEY HAVEN'T SUBMITTED PLANS AND THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONSTRUCTION, IT SEEMS VERY UNLIKELY THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FULFILL THEIR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE AGREEMENT AS IT'S WRITTEN TODAY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. BELL.

THIS ISN'T, ISN'T A PRIME EXAMPLE OF LEGISLATING BY THE SEAT OF YOUR PANTS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE.

THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY.

WE'RE LEAVING $600,000 ON INVESTED MONEY THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT ON THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO CHANGE.

NONE OF IT WAS DONE IN, IN ANY STRATEGIC PLANNING.

NONE OF IT WAS DONE IN A C I P PLANNING.

IT WAS ALL DONE IN THE DARK OF NIGHT BY A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO NOW WANT TO REFER TO ME AS THE OPPONENT.

I'M SORRY, BUT IF I WAS YOUR OPPONENT, YOU'D KNOW IT.

WELL, I MEAN, FRANKLY, WE VOTED AGAINST THESE PROJECTS MULTIPLE TIMES AND THE SUNK COST FALLACY OF CONTINUING TO THROW MORE MONEY AFTER THE PUBLIC WORKS BUILDING THAT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN VOTED DOWN ALREADY IN AN OPEN MEETING.

I DON'T, I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S KIND OF SILLY TO CONSTANTLY CHASE A PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY VOTED DOWN.

I MEAN, IT CAME UP HERE AND IT DID NOT PASS, AND THEN IT CAME UP AGAIN AND IT DID NOT PASS.

SO IT'S, IT'S A DEAD PROJECT.

YOU CAN SPEND IT ANY WAY YOU WANT.

MR. MAYOR , I VOTED AGAINST THE PROJECT AT LEAST FOUR TIMES, SO YEAH, WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER SPENT THAT MONEY.

'CAUSE IT WAS IRRESPONSIBLE WHEN Y'ALL VOTED TO SPEND THE MONEY.

I I NEVER WANTED TO SPEND THE MONEY, SO I'M GOOD.

LET'S GO VOTE ON IT.

THE, THIS IS FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

CAN YOU REPEAT THAT JUST FOR THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

OKAY.

THE ORIGINAL MOTION, MOTION PASSES 5 4 3 AGAINST

[10B. 23-0358 Consider and take action on an ordinance approving the 2023-24 annual service and assessment plan update for the League City Public Improvement District No. 1 (Magnolia Creek) (Finance Director)]

10 B.

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING 2023 DASH 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

UPDATED FOR THE LEAGUE CITY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER ONE MAG CREEK MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE.

UH, THOSE ARE MISSING.

SO 6 4 0 AGAINST TO ABSENT MOTION FOR FIRST AND FINAL SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

[01:45:09]

MOTION PASSES.

5 4 1 AGAINST WHAT? TWO ABSENT.

YEAH.

THIS IS OUR ABSENT

[10C. 23-0359 Consider and take action on an ordinance approving the 2023-24 annual service and assessment plan update for the League City Public Improvement District No. 2 (Victory Lakes) (Finance Director)]

CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING 2023 DASH 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

UPDATE FOR LEAGUE CITY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER TWO, VICTORY LAKES MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION, NOT PLEASE VOTE.

UM, UH, MOTION PASSES 7 4 0 AGAINST MOTION FOR FIRST AND FINAL SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

SIX FOUR.

OH WAIT, YOURS DIDN'T REGISTER.

I, THAT'S 6 4 1 AGAINST ONE ABSENT I BELIEVE.

MARIJUANA.

YES.

I'M A GUESS.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH,

[10D. 23-0360 Consider and take action on an ordinance approving the 2023-24 annual service and assessment plan update for the League City Public Improvement District No. 3 (Centerpointe) (Finance Director)]

CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE APPROVING 2023 DASH 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

UPDATED FOR LEAGUE CITY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, CENTER POINT.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

YEAH.

UH, TOMMY, I'M SORRY I VOTED BOWEN, I APOLOGIZE.

OKAY.

MOTION PASSES.

7 4 0 AGAINST MOTION FOR FIRST AND FINAL.

YOU GOT A CRUISE.

ARE YOU SECOND? I SECOND.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

WORKS SO GOOD FOR SO LONG.

YEAH, IT'S WIRE UP TRACK YOU.

MOTION PASSES.

6 4 1 AGAINST ONE ABSENT.

CONSIDER AND

[10E. 23-0361 Consider and take action on an ordinance approving a 2023-24 annual service and assessment plan update for the League City Public Improvement District No. 5 (Park on Clear Creek) (Director of Finance)]

TAKE ACTION ON ORDINANCE APPROVING 2023 DASH 2024 ANNUAL SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN.

UPDATED FOR LEAGUE CITY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE.

PARKS ON PARK ON CLEAR CREEK.

MOVE TO APPROVE.

SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

7 4 0 AGAINST ONE ABSENT MOTION FOR FIRST AND FINAL SECOND.

YOU'RE GOOD.

SECOND.

SO WE DON'T BLOW IT UP.

UH, PLEASE VOTE.

6 4 1 AGAINST ONE ABSENT CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN

[10F. 23-0439 Consider and take action on an ordinance amending Chapter 22 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of League City entitled, “Building and Building Regulations” to adopt the 2021 International Swimming Pool and Spa Code (Executive Director of Development Services)]

ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 22 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OF CITY LEAGUE CITY ENTITLED, BUILDING AND BUILDING REGULATIONS TO ADOPT THE 2021 INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE.

MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.

MR. CRUZ.

CAN, CAN I JUST GET A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF WHAT IT IS THAT, THAT WE'RE APPROVING? UH, IT REQUIRES EVERYONE BUILDS A SWIMMING POOL TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UP HERE HAS ONE TWO FIRST .

HEY, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PASSES ? UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING.

THIS IS, UH, THIS TOPIC CAME UP IN A RECENT QUARTERLY MEETING OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS HAVE WITH THE, THE CONTRACTORS OF THE CITY.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO US IN THAT, IN THAT MEETING ABOUT, UM, BASICALLY WIND WINDSTORM AND, AND INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS AND THAT, SO WE STARTED RESEARCHING AND WINDSTORM REQUIREMENTS HAVE CHANGED.

UM, POOL, UM, UH, EQUIPMENT THAT, THAT'S ON YOUR PAD IS NOW REQUIRED TO BE MOUNTED TO THE PAD.

UM, SO WE WENT BACK TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR CODE SAID.

OUR CODES DID NOT REFER TO THAT, BUT IT DID LOOK LIKE IN, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR WE TOOK, UM, THESE UPDATED CODES TO COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION.

AND UNFORTUNATELY AT THAT TIME IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE LISTED THE INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING CODE AS PART OF THAT, OF THAT ADOPTION.

SO THIS IS JUST A CLEANUP OF, OF THAT OVERSIGHT.

THIS NEW CODE HAS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE, UH, MOUNT MOUNTING OF THE, OF THE POOL EQUIPMENT AND MAKES US MORE WINDSTORM COMPLIANT.

THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

[01:50:01]

MR. CRUZ? I'M SORRY.

MR. CHAIR COES? YES, SIR.

CHRIS, ARE YOU ADOPTING THE ENTIRE CODE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

DO Y'ALL HAVE A COPY OF THE CODE? UH, I'M SORRY TO REVIEW.

I DON'T HAVE ONE THAT HAS ANYBODY REVIEWED IT YET OR, YEAH.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

JUST IF WE COULD GET A COPY OF IT TO REVIEW REAL QUICK, SIR, BEFORE THE, UM, THE NEXT READING ON IT? YES SIR.

OKAY.

I JUST WANNA LOOK AT IT.

OH, I UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S, THAT'S OVERSIGHT ON MY PART.

I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SOUNDS LIKE RIVETING READING.

UH, YEAH.

MR. .

MR. SAUNDERS, I KNOW YOU, YOU, YOU LIKE IT.

I STUFF.

DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO? I MEAN, 'CAUSE WE HAVE ABUNDANCE OF THEM IN THE CITY.

DO DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ABOVE GROUND POOLS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? OR IS THAT JUST STRICTLY IN GROUND? UM, IT IS, IT IS RELATED TO THE POOL EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

SO IF IT IS REQUIRED TO BE ON A SLAB, THEN IT, IT HAS TO BE MOUNTED TO THAT SLAB.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT'S 8 4 0 AGAINST MR. MAYOR IF YOU FIND IT APPROPRIATE, LET'S JUST CALL FOR A FIRST AND FINAL TO KEEP THE NEXT AGENDA A LITTLE LIGHTER.

YOU WANNA REVIEW IT? YES.

OKAY.

I'LL RETRACT THE MOTION THEN.

EXPECT A FULL REPORT.

IT'LL BE HONOR, UH, ITEMS AFTER ELECTRONIC AGENDA.

UH, WHERE'S THE ITEMS AFTER ELECTRONICS AGENDA? I DON'T HAVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL.

THERE'S JUST, I THINK IT'S EXECUTIVE SESSION.

IT'S JUST THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.

OKAY.

LEMME VERIFY.

YES.

UH, YES SIR.

ALRIGHT.

UH, REPORT FROM STAFF.

UH, WE YIELD, I'LL YIELD MY TIME.

UH, REPORT FROM

[13. COUNCIL MEMBERS COMMENTS/REPORTS]

COUNSEL.

ANDY, MAY YOU MORE TIME CHAD TRUST SINCE WE'VE HEARD, UH, NUMEROUS MEETINGS NOW ABOUT FOLKS WORRIED ABOUT THE T N R PROGRAM IN THE CITY.

UM, I WANNA READ SOME STATS THAT ARE A LITTLE OUTDATED NOW BECAUSE I ASKED ABOUT 'EM WHEN WE, UH, FIRST STARTED HEARING ABOUT ALL THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S STILL RELEVANT SINCE APPARENTLY FOLKS ARE GETTING INFORMATION FROM SOMEWHERE.

UM, AND SINCE SO MANY HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS AT THESE MEETINGS, I THOUGHT SOMEBODY NEEDED TO READ IT AT ONE.

THESE ARE THE NUMBERS FOR CATS WITH OUR SHELTER.

IN JULY OF 2023, IN THE MONTH OF JULY OF 20 23, 152 CATS CAME INTO OUR SHELTER.

85 OF THOSE WERE FOSTER RETURNS.

61 WERE STRAYS, FIVE WERE SURRENDERS, AND ONE WAS A TRANSFER.

DURING THE SAME MONTH, 188 CATS WENT OUT FROM OUR SHELTER.

132 OF THOSE WERE ADOPTED TO HOMES.

SO THE STORY THAT WE ARE NOT FINDING HOMES FOR CATS AND WE'RE JUST SETTING 'EM ALL LOOSE ON THE STREETS, THE NUMBERS DON'T REALLY BEAR OUT.

42 WENT OUT TO NEW FOSTERS.

FIVE WERE EUTHANIZED BECAUSE OF HEALTH ISSUES.

ONE DIED BEFORE IT WAS ABLE TO BE LOOKED OVER BY THE VET.

UH, CAME IN WITH HEALTH ISSUES.

OBVIOUSLY ONE WAS RETURN TO OWNER.

SEVEN WERE SENT OUT WITH THE T N R PROGRAM.

SEVEN.

THAT'S ABOUT BARELY 5% OF OUR TOTAL INTAKE OF CATS WHEN WE HAVE 132 ADOPTED, 42 FOSTERED AND ONLY 7 CENT OUT.

I'LL AGREE IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO OUR CRITERIA ON DECIDING WHETHER A CAT'S FUNERAL WERE ADOPTABLE.

BUT THOSE NUMBERS DON'T POINT TO A WIDESPREAD ISSUE.

AND WE HAVE TAKEN THE STEP, AS MAYOR HAS POINTED OUT TWICE NOW, TO BRING IN AN OUTSIDE GROUP TO AUDIT OUR PROCESS, INCLUDING OUR CRITERIA FOR DETERMINING WHAT CATS ARE FERAL VERSUS ADOPTABLE.

UM, SO WE ARE TAKING THE STEPS REGARDLESS OF WHAT'S BEING SAID AND THE NUMBERS DON'T BEAR OUT A WIDESPREAD ISSUE.

AND THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO POINT OUT.

MS. SAUNDERS, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP A COMMUNITY EVENT THIS WEEKEND.

UH, TWO OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS THAT HAVE LEAGUE CITY RESIDENTS IN THEM WILL BE IN A BAND COMPETITION THIS SATURDAY.

UH, DICKINSON HIGH SCHOOL AND CLEAR LAKE HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, IF YOU'VE EVER NEVER BEEN TO ONE OF THESE COMPETITIONS, THESE KIDS WORK THEIR BUTTS OFF.

MOST OF THESE KIDS START PRACTICING GETTING READY FOR THIS COMPETITION DURING THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER, IF NOT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER.

AND THEY WORKED THEIR BUTTS OFF ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THESE COMPETITIONS.

[01:55:02]

IF YOU GET A CHANCE, COME OUT AND CHEER ON.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M GONNA BE PARTIAL TO DICKINSON OF COURSE, 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE MY SON GOES TO SCHOOL.

BUT BOTH THE, I'LL BE CHEERING ON BOTH THESE SCHOOLS WHEN I'M THERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE, UH, THIS SATURDAY THE 30TH, IT'LL BE AT CHALLENGER STADIUM.

THANK YOU MR. CONES.

YEAH.

JUST FOR POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MR. CRUZ.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

NOBODY TELLS ME HOW TO VOTE.

JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM.

MR. CRUZ, THANK YOU FOR, FOR CONFIRMING THAT MR. ES, UM, THE, I I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO SAY.

I JUST WANTED TO, UH, PASS ALONG SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS THE CHANGE THAT, UH, DEVEREUX HAS.

WE WENT TO THE, UM, TO THEIR YEARLY GALA AND I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THAT DEVEREUX HAD STARTED TO CHANGE TO NOW THEIR FOCUS IS ON, UH, HEAVY CHILDREN WITH HEAVY AUTISM.

UM, AND SO I DIDN'T WANT TO REACH OUT AND ANYBODY WHO WAS MORE INTERESTED IN THAT PROGRAM, UM, TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU MS. BONE.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE ONE THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT THE CAT THING IS WE DO NOT HAVE COMMUNITY CATS.

IF THERE ARE CATS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE RUNNING AROUND, THEY'RE CONSIDERED FERAL CATS WHETHER YOU'RE FEEDING THEM OR NOT.

SO WHEN THOSE CATS ARE PICKED UP AND SPAYED, NEUTERED AND RELEASED, THEY ARE CONSIDERED FERAL CATS.

THEY CAN'T GO TRACKING DOWN PEOPLE WHO MAY BE FEEDING 'EM TO PROVIDE PROPER CARE.

THAT WAS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE CATS, WHICH SOME PEOPLE REFER TO AS COMMUNITY CATS, WHICH IS AGAINST THE ORDINANCES OF THE CITY TO HAVE THEM BREEDING AND MULTIPLYING.

SO THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT PICKING UP FRIENDLY CATS AND NOT RETURNING THEM, IT'S IT'S NOT ABOUT THE FRIENDLY CATS.

IF THE CATS RUN IN THE STREETS, IT'S CONSIDERED A FERAL CAT.

IT'S AGAINST ORDINANCE TO ALLOW YOUR CATS OR ANIMALS TO RUN THE STREETS.

THANK YOU MR. HICKS.

UH, YEAH, I'LL SPEAK TO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

UM, I'LL TAKE A CHANGE OF COURSE HERE AND ACTUALLY MAYBE POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD CONSIDER MEASURABLE TO MAYBE POSSIBLY A STAFF IN AN ENGINEERING, UH, DEPARTMENT SUCCESS IS THAT IN CASE, IF NOBODY'S BEEN AROUND LATELY, WE'VE OBVIOUSLY HAD SOME SERIOUS DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND HEAT AND, UH, WITH THE GROUND BEING AS DRY AS IT WAS, AND UM, OBVIOUSLY WITH THE HEAVY STORM THAT WE HAD THE OTHER DAY COULD HAVE BEEN A RECIPE FOR DISASTER.

BUT IF, UM, EVERYBODY TAKES NOTICE, THERE WERE NO REPORTS OF ANY FLOODED HOMES IN VERY MILD PUDDLING AROUND THE CITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR BOND PROJECTS IN THE WORK OF YOUR CITY, ACTUALLY, I, I THINK DOES GIVE US A MEASURE THAT WE'RE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

HATS OFF TO THE STAFF.

I'M SURE JOHN DIDN'T DRAW AN EASY BREATH UNTIL UH, THE STORM SETTLED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

UH, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO RECAP ON THE CAT STUFF, WE'RE GOING TO, STAFF'S GONNA PUT TOGETHER KIND OF A FULL ACCOUNTING OF THE HISTORY.

WE'LL GET THAT READY TO GO AND GET THAT, UH, PUBLICLY OUT TO EVERYBODY SO THAT UH, WE CAN STOP THE RUMORS AND JUST GO WITH THE FACTS ON WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW WE ENDED UP WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE NONPROFIT TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK FOR THE SHELTER AND WORK FOR, FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

ALRIGHT,

[14. EXECUTIVE(CLOSED) SESSION(S)]

NOW WE'LL GO INTO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SUB CHAPTER D, THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SESSION 5 51 AT ALL THE GOVERNMENT CODE THE 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2023 AT 7 59.

MIKE OH

[15. ACTION ITEM(S) FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION(S)]

CITY COUNCIL HAS COMPLETED ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION ON THIS 26TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, UH, 2023 AT 8:26 PM THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECONVENE AN OPEN SESSION.

THERE WAS NO FINAL ACTION, DECISION OR VOTE REGARD TO ANY MATTER CONSIDERING AN EXECUTIVE SESSION JUST CONCLUDED.

15.

A CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION REGARDING PENDING LITIGATION TO WITT LEAGUE CITY VERSUS JIMMY CHONGA.

NO ACTION.

NO ACTION NEEDED.

UH, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING POTENTIAL LITIGATION TO WITT SONOMA CORPORATION.

I MOVE TO AUTHORIZE THE FILING OF A PETITION RELATED TO THE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE SONOMA CORPORATION FOR EMINENT DOMAIN PURPOSES FOR THE LANDING BOULEVARD EXTENSION PROJECT.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION PASSES.

7 4 1 AGAINST, IS THAT A YES OR NO? NO.

MOTION PASSES.

6 4 2 AGAINST UH, AND AT 8 27 THERE BE NO FURTHER BUSINESS.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.