* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL OF MEMBERS] [00:00:05] ALRIGHT. CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE CITY, TEXAS WILL NOW COME TO ORDER IN REGULAR SESSION ON JULY 25TH, 2023 AT 6:00 PM ROLL. CALL OF MEMBERS. UH, ANDY MANN. HERE. TOM? HERE. TOM CRUISE. HERE. JOHN BOWEN. HERE. JUSTIN HICKS. HERE. CHAD TRESSLER. SEAN? HERE. HERE. ALRIGHT. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE PASTOR GLENN BROWN WITH TURNING POINT CHURCH, WHO WILL BE OUR INVOCATION SPEAKER THIS EVENING. PASTOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. LONG AND GOOD EVENING TO YOU AND HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TONIGHT, AND I INVITE YOU TO JOIN WITH ME IN PRAYER AS WE INVOKE GOD'S BLESSINGS ON TONIGHT'S COUNCIL MEETING. ALMIGHTY GOD. WE FIRST TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE MANY BLESSINGS YOU'VE BESTOWED ON LEAGUE CITY. AND WE HUMBLY ASK FOR YOUR CONTINUED BLESSINGS OF PEACE AND SAFETY AND PROSPERITY ON THIS GREAT CITY. AS THIS COUNCIL AND THE CITY STAFF GO ABOUT THEIR IMPORTANT TASK OF GOVERNING, REPRESENTING, AND SERVING THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE, I PRAY THAT YOU'LL GIVE THEM YOUR DIVINE WISDOM AND GUIDE THEM AS THEY DELIBERATE ON THE MANY IMPORTANT MATTERS THAT AFFECT US ALL. HELP THEM IN THEIR EFFORTS TO BE WISE AND FAITHFUL STEWARDS OF THE RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN ENTRUSTED TO THEIR CARE. AND I OFFER THIS PRAYER IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON AND MY LORD JESUS CHRIST. AMEN. TO THE US FLAG PLEDGE LEGIONS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. AND TO THE, THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL THE TEXAS FLAG, HONOR UNDER THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE, STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. [3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES] ALL RIGHT, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FOR JULY 11TH, 2023. ANY CORRECTIONS? HEARING NONE. THESE MINUTES STAND APPROVED. NOW WE'LL [5. PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL Members of the public are invited to give comments at this time, lasting not longer than 3 minutes. Comments may be general in nature or may address a specific agenda item.] DO PUBLIC COMMENTS. BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, UH, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO SPEAK. WE'LL BE TAKING, WE'RE ALLOWING ANYBODY, ANY RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, LANDOWNERS IN THE CITY OF LEAGUE CITY TO SPEAK FOR NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES. OF COURSE, IT'S A BUSINESS MEETING AND WE'LL KEEP A, A LEVEL OF DECORUM THAT JUSTIFIES A BUSINESS MEETING. FIRST PERSON UP, WILLIAM PATE PATE. SORRY. ALL RIGHT, GOOD EVENING. UH, JUST WANTED TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES JUST TO TALK ABOUT AND, UH, EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REVISION OF THE SOLICITORS AND PEDDLERS, UH, ORDINANCE THIS AFTERNOON. UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, COUNCILMAN HICKS AND SAUNDERS FOR PUTTING FORWARD THIS REVISION. UH, HAVING THESE, THESE PEDDLERS COMING THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS HAS BEEN A, A LONGSTANDING ISSUE. UH, I TALKED TO NEIGHBORS, I TALKED TO MY WIFE, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT PEOPLE RANDOMLY WALKING UP TO HOUSES EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE NO SOLICITATION SIGNS ON THE FRONT OF OUR DOORS, AND THEN CONCERNS THAT THERE'S NO TEETH IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. I, I THINK THAT WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS A, A GOOD FIRST STEP. UM, I LIKE THE IDEA OF THERE BEING SOME KIND OF AN EXAMINATION OR VERIFICATION OF KNOWLEDGE ON THE PARTS OF THE SOLICITORS THAT ARE GONNA BE GETTING THESE PERMITS. UH, I WOULD'VE, YOU KNOW, WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TAXING ANY KIND OF RESOURCES FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND ALSO NOT HAVING SOMETHING WHERE IT'S JUST SOME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT BACK AT THE HOME OFFICE FILLING IN SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY, UH, ONLINE. SO MAYBE INTEGRATING INTO SOME PART OF AN APPLICATION PROCESS THAT'S VERIFIED IN PERSON BY THE PERSON WHO'S REVIEWING THE APPLICATION MAY BE A GOOD WAY TO GO. UM, I ALSO REALLY LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE, I THINK THE STRENGTH OF THE BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS HERE. UH, KNOWING THAT SOME OF THESE PEDDLERS AND SOLICITORS, IF THEY GET INSIDE YOUR FRONT DOOR, YOU MAY HAVE CHILDREN AT HOME. UH, AT LEAST KNOWING THAT THEY'VE GONE THROUGH SOME LEVEL OF A BACKGROUND CHECK PROCESS, I THINK GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT TO WHO YOU ARE ALLOWING INSIDE YOUR HOMES. UM, MY ONLY MILD COMMENT, JUST 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT OF A NERD WHEN IT COMES TO WORDING, UH, JUST, UH, LOOKING AT SECTION 78 DASH 15, UH, THERE'S JUST THE WAY THAT ITEM NUMBER TWO IS WORDED DOESN'T REALLY LINE UP WITH THE WAY THAT THAT SECTION STARTS. NO INDIVIDUAL PEDDLERS, SOLICITOR OR CANVAS OR SHALL. AND THEN SECTION TWO IS TALKING ABOUT THE DESCRIPTION OR THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SIGN. JUST A MINOR KIND OF GRAMMATICAL FLOW ISSUE. UH, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I JUST WANTED TO, TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PROCESS SO FAR, SO FAR WITH THE BUDGET, UH, PROCESS. UH, I'VE ENJOYED BEING ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND SEE KIND OF HOW THE SAUSAGE GETS MADE, LOOKING FORWARD TO FUTURE, UH, CONVERSATIONS AND ULTIMATELY WHAT'S [00:05:01] GONNA COME OUT OF THAT. SO, THANK YOU ALL. THANKS. UH, DENNIS JOHNS, YOU COULD PROBABLY BRING OUT A, YOU WANT A MIC MICROPHONE? THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, YES. MY NAME IS DENNIS. I'M A RESIDENT IN TUSCAN LAKES. IN THE SIX YEARS THAT I'VE LIVED HERE, I'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED BY THOSE PESKY AND AT TIMES DEFIANCE SOLICITORS. I READ THE PREVIOUS SOLICITATION CODE OVER A NUMBER OF TIMES AND CONCLUDED THAT IT SAID WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, BUT HAD NO PENALTIES ATTACHED. THE CODE JUST NEEDED MORE. WITH THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF MY DAUGHTER, LAURA TEITSWORTH, PEGGY ZELLER, AND DAVID JOHNSON, I CAME UP WITH A PROPOSAL THAT I SENT TO ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. AGENDA ITEM 10 A 23 0 33 6 AMENDING CHAPTER 78 ENTITLED, PETAL NURSE AND SOLICITORS IS IN ACCORD WITH MY INTENT AND I FULLY SUPPORT. I WISH TO THANK THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS INVOLVED IN THE REWRITE OF MY PROPOSAL. I DO REALIZE THAT ANY ENFORCEMENT REMAINS IN THE HANDS OF THE CITIZENS OF LEAGUE CITY. ON A SIDE NOTE, I HOPE THE COUNCIL WILL REFLECT THE REMARKS OF COUNCIL MEMBER ANDY MANN. AT A PREVIOUS STUDY SESSION WITH REFERENCES TO PICKLEBALL, I INTRODUCED PICKLEBALL TO MY PHYS ED STUDENTS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL IN DAVENPORT, IOWA ABOUT 35, 40 YEARS AGO. AND IT WAS BRAND NEW AND IT NEVER CAUGHT ON. AND NOW YOU CAN'T BUILD THE QUARTZ FAST ENOUGH. THAT'S TRUE. AND, AND, AND THE REASON I'M REFLECTING ON THAT IS I'M ABOUT KIDS. I SPENT 40 YEARS WITH KIDS BALD DIAMONDS. WE GOTTA HAVE BALD DIAMONDS. YOU TRUST ME, IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH SOCCER FIELDS. AND, AND, AND YOU. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS WATCH TELEVISION THE LAST THREE WEEKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT MESSAGE. UH, IT'S GONNA CATCH ON. LIKE, I HATE TEACHING SOCCER . I HATE WATCHING SOCCER. I DO NOT LIKE SOCCER. BUT IT IS A COMING SPORT AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ENOUGH SPACES FOR, AND, UH, UH, THAT WHAT HAPPENED WITH PICKLEBALL WILL HAPPEN WITH SOCCER. WE'VE NEVER HAD ENOUGH BASEBALL IN SOFTBALL COURTS, DIAMONDS, AND, UH, AND THERE'LL BE MORE LATER. THANK YOU. SHOULD HAVE GOT AHEAD OF THAT PICKLEBALL. YOU'D BE A RICH MAN. YEAH. TEITSWORTH AT THE STATION. THE CODE WORD IS PICKLEBALL. . MY NAME IS LAURA TEITSWORTH, AND IT'S A PLEASURE FOR ME TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT. I HAVE TO SAY THIS ONE THING. LEAGUE CITY LISTENS. THANK YOU, DAD. AND I HAVE WORKED FOR HOURS ON THIS ORDINANCE FOR SOLICITATION, AND EACH ONE OF YOU RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM HIM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, MONTHS AGO. AND WE'RE FRUSTRATED WITH THE SOLICITORS. THEY COME, THEY KNOCK ON THE DOOR. HE'S AN EASY TARGET. 'CAUSE HE WILL COME TO THE DOOR AND TALK TO ANYONE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY SAY PICKLEBALL, . BUT, UM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE MORE THAN EVER, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMER, THESE SOLICITORS ARE KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR. AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK THE NEXT DAY, AND THEY DO. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE LISTENED TO US, YOU'VE PUT TEETH INTO THIS ORDINANCE, AND I'M SO PROUD TO SAY LEAGUE CITY LISTENS. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD, FOR LISTENING TO OUR, THE RESIDENTS TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS. AND I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH. THANKS. THANK YOU. PEGGY ZOR. PEGGY ZOR. I DON'T HAVE TO TURN THE MIC ON, RIGHT. SO I'LL DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME. PERFECT. UM, I ATTENDED THE, UH, H G A C REGIONAL, UH, FLOOD MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE. I AM YOUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT COMMITTEE. AND CHRISTOPHER SUMS IS THE ALTERNATE. UH, THIS COMMITTEE IS, UM, FORMED, UM, TO DISCUSS ISSUES, UM, THAT ARE RELATING TO FLOODING. AND IT'S PRIMARILY, UH, COMPRISED OF FLOODPLAIN [00:10:01] MANAGERS. UH, WE RECEIVE PRESENTATIONS ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND IT'S REGARDING PROJECTS OR CONCERNS IN THE AREA, UH, IN OUR REGION. SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE BEING YOUR, UH, YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO NETWORK AND MEET OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE, UH, IN THE AREA. WE HAD A PRESENTATION BY FRIESEN NICHOLS FROM THE SAN JACINTA REGIONAL, UH, SIX GROUP, THE FLOOD PLANNING GROUP. THIS IS THE GROUP THAT REPRESENTS THE TEXAS DEVELOPMENT WATER BOARD, AND THEY'RE GATHERING PROJECTS THAT WILL BE SUBMITTED. AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR, UH, TO THE WATER BOARD. AND IN TURN, THE WATER BOARD WILL CULL THROUGH, UH, THOSE PROJECTS FROM THE 15 DIFFERENT REGIONS. AND THE PROJECTS THAT ARE SELECTED WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE PUT ON THE STATE FLOOD PLAN. AND WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT IF YOUR PROJECT IS NOT LISTED ON THE STATE FLOOD PLAN, THAT YOU WILL NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR STATE FLOODING. SO ALL IN ALL, A GREAT MEETING. WE HAD A PRESENTATION FROM, UH, BUFFALO BAYOU GROUP. SO I WOULD SAY THERE IS CONTINUING ENERGY IN THE REGION ON HOW TO DEAL WITH, UH, DRAINAGE AND FLOODING. SO GET WITH ME AFTER IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REPRESENT YOU. I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE MY DISCUSSION ON THE CASE STUDY AS, UH, AS I STARTED, UM, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING. THIS IS GONNA BE SHORT, BUT I, I WANNA SET THE TONE BECAUSE A LOT OF CITIZENS REACHED OUT TO ME, ASKED QUESTIONS, GAVE COMMENTS, AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT, THE CITIZENS NEVER LET ME DOWN. IT IS INCREDIBLE TO ME THE SUPPORT THAT THEY SHOW AND THE INTEREST. SO I WILL SAY THAT I ATTENDED 90% OF THE SUNSET COMMITTEE MEETINGS AND THOROUGHLY ENJOYED THE DISCUSSION AND THE DIALOGUE. THERE WAS EARLY ON A DECISION TO ASK THREE QUESTIONS OF ALL THE COMMITTEES. NUMBER ONE IS, WHAT IS YOUR MISSION? NUMBER TWO, IS THE MISSION STILL RELEVANT? NUMBER THREE IS, UM, THEY'RE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MERGE THIS COMMITTEE WITH ANOTHER COMMITTEE. I THOUGHT THOSE WERE FANTASTIC QUESTIONS. I THOUGHT THEY WOULD GENERATE A LOT OF DISCUSSION. THE FIRST STEP WAS FOR US TO, UH, FILL OUT AN EVALUATION, WHICH ALL OF US DID. THE TICK SPECIFICALLY, UH, FILLED IT OUT AS A GROUP. 'CAUSE WE WANTED TO BE SURE WE GAVE CONSISTENT INFORMATION TO THE SUNSET COMMITTEE. WHAT I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT IS THAT THERE WAS NOT ANY MORE DIALOGUE. UH, I'M RUNNING OUTTA TIME, SO I WILL CONTINUE MY CASE STUDY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ON TIME. MAYOR, THANK YOU. [6. CONSENT AGENDA] NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ITEM SIX A THROUGH SIX I. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MAYBE ANY DO. THERE WE GO. THERE WE'RE THOUGHT MINE WAS BROKE. LET'S VOTE BY RAISE OF HAND. ALL, UH, ALL AFFIRMATIVE VOTES. ALRIGHT, SO THAT PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST ITEM [7A. 23-0320 Conduct a public hearing on the proposed Outdoor grant application to Texas Parks and Wildlife Department (TPWD) for development of Bay Colony Park (PK2001), a portion of which is located within a floodplain and may include construction within a wetland area. (Executive Director of Capital Projects)] SEVEN, PUBLIC HEARING AND ACTION ITEMS FROM PUBLIC HEARING. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON PROPOSED OUTDOOR GRANT APPLICATION TO TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF BAY COLONY PARK, PK 2001, A PORTION OF WHICH IS LOCATED WITHIN A FLOODPLAIN AND MAY INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A WETLAND. WE'LL OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:13 PM IS THERE ANYBODY SPEAKING? NO, THERE'S NOBODY SPEAKING. DO YOU HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION? SHORT, BUT, UH, IMPORTANT, UH, PARK TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION. UH, BASICALLY WE NEED TO, UH, EXPLAIN, UH, THAT, THAT A PORTION OF THE PROJECT IS IN FLOODPLAIN AND, AND THERE ARE WETLANDS ON SITE. AND, UH, I'VE GOT DIAGRAMS IN HERE THAT WILL SHOW THAT, UH, THIS IS THE ORIGINAL FLOODPLAIN AND, AND, UH, WETLANDS DIAGRAMS THAT WE HAD FROM THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT. UH, THE WETLANDS, UH, HAVE CHANGED FROM MORE INTENSIVE STUDY ON SITE. THE FLIP PLANE IS, HAS NOT, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN A, IN ANOTHER, UH, [00:15:01] ENTRY. THIS IS, UH, LIKE A SECOND PHASE OF THE WETLANDS WORK, UH, SHOWING THERE ARE SCATTERED WETLANDS THROUGHOUT THE SITE. BUT THE THREE GREEN BOXES, UH, SHOW THE ONLY THREE AREAS THAT WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED WITH IN THE CONSTRUCTION. UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE CONSIDERED JURISDICTIONAL WETLANDS BY THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS, MEANING THEY CONNECT WITH, UM, WITH THE WATERS OF THE US, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S HARD TO TELL THAT IT DOES, UH, ACCORDING TO OUR CONSULTANTS. NOW, THIS IS THE LATEST PLAN JUST SUBMITTED, UH, WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, UH, SHOWING THE FOOTPRINT OF THE, THE PARK PLANS AND, UH, HOW EVERYTHING RELATES. THE BRIGHT BLUE LINE IS THE, THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOODPLAIN, UM, OR 500 YEAR. UH, AND ALL OF THE, THE STRUCTURES ARE UP OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, UH, BY VIRTUE OF THE GRADING THAT'S BEING DONE FOR THE PROJECT. UM, AND SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS WITH BEING IN THE FLOODPLAIN. UH, WE'VE CREATED ENOUGH DETENTION ON SITE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE, THE FLOODING, UH, THAT THAT COULD OCCUR DURING A A RAINSTORM. SO, UM, AND THESE, UH, WETLAND AREAS, THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE OF ANY AREA WE'RE PLANNING TO, UH, HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENT OCCUR ON PORTION OF IT IS IN THE TXDOT RIGHTWAY FOR THE GRAND PARKWAY. AND, UH, THE OTHER TWO, UH, ARE, UM, THE WAY, THE WAY THE PARK'S BEING DESIGNED AROUND THEM. UH, THEY'RE, UH, EITHER IN A, IN A DETENTION FACILITY, AN EXCAVATION IS ALLOWED OR THEY'RE BEING AVOIDED. AND SO WE'RE NOT, UH, ACTUALLY GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A COURT PERMIT FOR ANY OF THAT. UM, OKAY. THAT WAS IT ON THE HEARING INFORMATION. UM, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR TRY TO. SO THERE'S JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. WHEN THERE WERE RECENT SUPREME COURT CASE, UH, THAT DEALT WITH WETLANDS AND YES. DOES THIS DOESN'T AFFECT THAT ANY WAY? OR IS THERE A, UH, WE IT HASN'T SO FAR. I MEAN, I'M SURE OUR CONSULTANTS ARE AWARE OF THAT AND HAVE LOOKED AT IT. UM, AND SOME OF THAT IS ALWAYS IN FLUXX AFTER A DECISION LIKE THAT. AND, UH, SO A YEAR FROM NOW, TWO YEARS FROM NOW, IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT DECISION BY, UH, OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS. BUT THIS, UM, OUR CONSULTANTS FELT LIKE, UH, LIKE THAT MIDDLE WETLAND AREA WAS NOT A, A WETLAND. THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE IT CONNECTED TO WATERS OF THE US BUT THE, THE CORPS OF ENGINEERS DID. AND IT'S A SMALL AREA AND WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO, TO WORK WITHIN THE GUIDELINES TO NOT HAVE IT AFFECT ANYTHING. SO, UM, SO WE'RE REALLY, WHETHER THAT DECISION WOULD AFFECT US OR NOT, WE'RE EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH THE WAY IT'S TURNING OUT AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO, TO MOVE AHEAD WITH THE DESIGN. SO I GOT A QUESTION. THANK YOU. OH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. I GOT A QUESTION REAL QUICK. ON WETLANDS THREE, THE GRAND PARKWAY IS GONNA GO THROUGH THAT AREA. HAVE WE TALKED WITH TEXTILE ON? 'CAUSE WHATEVER THEY DO IS GONNA AFFECT WHAT WE DO IN THAT AREA. HAVE WE TALKED TO TXDOT TO FIND OUT THAT OUR PLANS AND THEIR PLANS ARE GONNA MESH? SOMEWHAT YES. BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND REMODIFY EVERYTHING. 'CAUSE NO, WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, ACTUALLY HAD TWO DIFFERENT ENGINEERING FIRMS WORKING ON IT. I MEAN, OUR, OUR CONSULTANTS ENGINEERING CONSULTANT HAS WORKED WITH, UM, ANOTHER CONSULTANT THAT'S DONE SURVEYING OF THE ALIGNMENT. 'CAUSE THAT WAS, I THINK MS. BAUMGARTNER WAS PUSHING FOR THAT GETTING, UH, FINALIZED BEFORE WE MOVED INTO THE PHASE WE'RE IN NOW. SO WHERE IT, WHERE IT'S SHOWN ON THIS PLAN IS WHERE IT, UH, WILL BE ACCORDING TO WHAT TTO WILL DO THEN. AND THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAVE ON THIS REAL QUICK IS WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO FIND OUT ON THE RESULTS OF THE, OF THE SOIL STUDIES FOR THE HEAVY METALS, IS THAT GOING TO AFFECT THE WETLAND AREAS IN THIS AREA? WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CONTAMINATION OF THE WATER SOURCES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT FROM THAT HEAVY METAL CONTAMINATION? NO, THE, THE, UM, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE HEAVY METAL AREA, WHICH IS ACTUALLY UP IN THE NORTH PART OF THE PARK, THERE HAVE, WILL HAVE TO BE QUITE A BIT OF EXCAVATION. BUT WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF, UH, ACCUMULATED SOIL THAT WE CAN [00:20:01] REPLACE WHAT WE HAVE TO TAKE OUT. UH, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT WETLANDS OR THE WATER, UH, UNDERNEATH. YOU SEE WHAT I'M CONCERNED? RIGHT. THAT GETTING INTO THE WATER BODIES AND CONTAMINATING THE WATER WASTES. THAT'S WHAT I CONCERNED. NO, THAT THE, THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, PRODUCE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE SOILS THAT ARE ALLOWING IT TO OKAY. TO GET INTO THE, OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT. UH, WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING AT 6:20 PM SEVEN A [7B. 23-0321 Consider and take action on a resolution authorizing the City to enter into an agreement with the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department for a 50% State - 50% City matching grant supporting the proposed Bay Colony Park Project (PK2001), to receive any awarded funds, and also authorizing the City Manager to sign any or all documents pertaining to the project construction. (Executive Director of Capital Projects)] OR SEVEN B, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER IN AN AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT FOR A 50% STATE, 50% CITY MATCHING GRANT SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED BAY COLONY PARK PROJECT PK 2001 TO RECEIVE ANY AWARDED FUNDS. ALSO AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PROJECT CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. THIS IS BASICALLY ANOTHER REQUIREMENT OF PARKS AND WILDLIFE THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A, A RESOLUTION THAT HAS PARTICULAR WORDING IN IT, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR DOCUMENTS. MOTION TO APPROVE. YEAH. SECOND, MR. HICKS. YEAH. SO, UM, I'M GONNA VOTE NO TONIGHT, AND IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T SUPPORT THE IDEA OF THIS PROJECT, BUT I KIND OF FEEL LIKE IT'S BEEN A RUNAWAY TRAIN FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS. AND, UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ANY LEVEL OF COMMITMENT ON RECORD UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH IT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA KNOW MR. COUNCIL. YEAH. I GUESS I HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S YOU OR, OR CHEN, BUT ON THE GRANT ITSELF MM-HMM. , WHEN YOU SUBMIT THE PLAN TO THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE, ARE THEY, IS THIS THE PLAN THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING? YES, SIR. IF WE DEVIATE FROM THIS PLAN, HOW DOES IT AFFECT OUR 750,000 GRANT? IT, AS LONG AS WE CONSTRUCT THE ITEMS THAT WE TELL THEM WE'LL CONSTRUCT WITH THE GRANT FUNDS, WHICH ARE THE ONES ON THE PLAN, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEM WITH SOMETHING MOVING AROUND AND CORRECT. BUT, BUT IF WE DECIDE TO GET RID OF FIVE BASEBALL FIELDS COMPARED TO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE PLAN, IF WE, WE WOULD'VE TO SHOW STRONG JUSTIFICATION, JUSTIFICATION FOR THAT. THEY WOULD LISTEN AND, AND WOULD WORK WITH US. UH, I'VE BEEN ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT RIGHT. HAD TO DO THAT, BUT, UH, SO IT'S A $1.5 MILLION GRANT, 750,000 FROM THEM, AND WE'RE GIVING LAND FOR THE OTHER 750,000, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. BUT WE STILL HAVE A $36 MILLION BOND PROPOSAL YES. IN THE FUTURE, CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, IT'S NOT A BOND. IT'S FUNDS FROM THE FOUR B CORPORATION 36 MILLION. YES. IT'S A BOND THAT'S SUPPORTED BY FOUR B. RIGHT. IT'S OKAY. WELL, IT'S NEVER BEEN DESCRIBED THAT WAY IN MEETINGS I'VE BEEN IN YEAH. BOND PAID BY THE FOUR B I BELIEVE SO. NO, IT'S FLOAT BY FOUR B MONEY LOADED BY FOUR B MONEY. SO IT'D BE, EXCUSE ME, PAID BY FOUR B. THAT'S RIGHT. EXCUSE ME. WE'LL HAVE TO ISSUE SOME SORT OF DEBT CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, FUND THAT WITH IS FOUR B FUNDS BEING THAT TAX FILE. CORRECT? CORRECT. YEAH. YES. AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, ONE MORE, YOU KNOW, IF WE CHANGE THE PROJECT MM-HMM. AND IT'S NO LONGER ELIGIBLE, THEN WHAT WE RISK, AND I'M I THINK FORM OF A QUESTION TO BOB, WHAT WE RISK IS NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE FUNDING. CORRECT. THE SEVEN 50,000. YEAH. YOU YEAH. IF YOU DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH A PROJECT THAT YOU PUT OUT THERE, YOU WOULD NOT GET THE GRANT. THAT'S, THAT'S THE RISK. NOT THAT YOU'RE COMMITTED. YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND. YEAH. MY ONLY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $40 MILLION PROJECT AND IT'S SHOWING THAT CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA START IN 2025. AGAIN, IT'S GONNA BE HARD FOR ME TO SEE THAT BOND MONEY'S GONNA PAY FOR THE $36 MILLION. IT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME FOR, I'M SORRY, NOT THE BOND MONEY FOR B PAYING FOR ALL OF THAT IS THAT NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK CITIZENS FOR GEO BONDS OR ANYTHING ELSE. COR CORRECT. WE WOULD, WE WOULD SUGGEST, AND IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED FOR THE DURATION OF THIS PROJECT THAT IT SUPPORTED ENTIRELY WITH FOUR B FUNDS AND FOUR B SALES TAX. AND WHEN WE SELL THAT, THAT'S HOW WE WILL PLEDGE THAT. YEAH. THE, THE ONLY OTHER PROBLEM I WOULD HAVE, JOHN, IS THAT NOW THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW THIS PROJECT WAS KIND OF ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE, BUT WE'VE, WE HAVE SEVERAL HUNDRED HOMES BEING BUILT RIGHT NEXT TO IT OFF OF LEISURE LANE AND, AND BISBEE AND SEDONA. YES, SIR. UH, I, I THINK INC THAT'S GONNA [00:25:01] CREATE A LOT OF, A LOT OF GRIEF ONCE THEY FIND OUT THAT WE'RE GONNA START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS. I KNOW WE HAVE A SIGN OUT THERE. YES, SIR. I DRIVE BY IT ALL THE TIME. BUT STILL, UNTIL YOU START MOVING DIRT, PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO, TO, TO HAVE AN ISSUE. HAVE WE, HOW MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE WE HAD ON THIS PUBLIC HEARINGS WHERE PEOPLE GOT WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, I DON'T KNOW. UH, OB OBVIOUSLY, AND THE DEVELOPER'S BEEN INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS TOO. WELL, GO AHEAD, CHEN. WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE FOUR B WHEN WE FIRST INITIATED THE PROJECT, AND THAT'S PART OF THE SALES TAX REQUIREMENT. AND THEN WE'VE HAD A PUBLIC MEETING ALSO WHEN WE WENT INTO DISCUSSING THE DESIGN OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I GOT FROM MAYOR. THANK YOU. UH, YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK I HAVE THE SAME RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT. IT'S BEEN LANGUISHING AND IT'S, I'VE SEEN 10 DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF IT AND HAVEN'T GENERALLY BEEN SATISFIED WITH THE WAY IT'S GOING. I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE MONEY, HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, SMALL IT IS JUST TO HELP WITH SOME OF THESE UNFORESEEN EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE. AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT, THEN I'M OKAY MOVING FORWARD THAT WITH THIS, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT DONE, BUT I'M STILL NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SATISFIED WHERE IT IS. SO AS LONG AS WE'RE NOT JUST SIGNING AWAY ANY RIGHT. TO EVER COME BACK AND LOOK AT IT AGAIN. I, I'LL SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT. UH, I'M OFF. I'M SORRY. YEAH. I, WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE IS THAT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE, WITH THE TOTAL PRICE. AND I DON'T THINK THAT I'VE AT ANY POINT BEEN COMFORTABLE WITH THE TOTAL PRICE PRICE EITHER, BUT THIS ACTION IN NO WAY LOCKS US IN TO THAT PRICE. AND WE STILL CAN TAKE ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER SHOT AT SLIMMING IT DOWN WHEN WE GET TO CONSTRUCTION. IS THAT ACCURATE OR, SO THAT'S A SHOT. SO IF, WELL, YEAH. YES, THAT'S ACCURATE. IF THERE'S A DESIRE, LET ME SAY IT LIKE THIS, TO PHASE THE PROJECT, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR US TO KNOW SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. UM, I THINK THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT CRITICAL STEP IS UNDERSTAND OUR COMPLETE PATH FORWARD RELATIVE TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. AND THEN SHORTLY AFTER THAT, WE'VE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION IF WE'RE GONNA PHASE A PIECE OF THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN WE GET THE ENVIRONMENTALS BACK, WILL YOU BRING THE PROJECT BACK TO US FOR THAT DISCUSSION IN A WORKSHOP? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. RIGHT. AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M GETTING AT, IS THAT YEAH. INSTEAD OF JUST A HARD NO, THE QUESTION THAT THOSE OF US WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THE PRICE TAG ON THIS, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO COME TO IS WHERE IS YOUR YES. SO IS IT 30 MILLION? IS IT THE NOT FANCY BLEACHERS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THAT ONE BEFORE, BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, I, I'LL VOTE FOR THIS TONIGHT, BUT I KNOW, I CAN TELL THAT MY COLLEAGUES ARE, ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE OVERALL PRICE, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'LL BE, UH, WE, WE WON'T GET A YES VOTE IN THE FUTURE ON THAT. SO THANK YOU. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. MR. CRUZ. WOULD YOU HIT YOUR BUDGET? THANK YOU, . IT'S GONNA BE THAT KIND OF NIGHT, I GUESS. SO IS IS OUR, IS OUR ISSUE JUST THE PRICE? BECAUSE I'VE HEARD PRICE AND LOCATION, I JUST, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD JUST, IF WE'RE NOT INTERESTED OR IF IT'S, THE VOTES AREN'T THERE TO GET THIS FORWARD, IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE JUST KIND OF SPINNING WHEELS. I'D LIKE THE PARK. I THINK IT'S NEEDED. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GO FORWARD, BUT I DON'T ALSO WANNA SEE EVERYONE WASTE THEIR TIME FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY GOING NO ON OR TO GO CHEAP ON THE THING AND MISS OUT ON, UH, MISS OUT ON SOMETHING. BUT TO, BUT TOMMY, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT MOVE AROUND IT, I WOULD THINK THAT'S A BIG SELLING POINT FOR THEM IS TO BE THAT CLOSE TO A PARK WITH THE RUNNING TRACKS AND ALL THAT. BUT, UH, MAYBE I'M JUST WRONG, MS. SAUNDERS, WHO DOES LIVE NEXT TO IT. , THANK YOU. UM, I AM ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE THE LOCATION. I AM ALSO ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAS GRAVE CONCERNS OVER THIS BECAUSE OF THE RE THE SOIL REMEDIATION. YEAH. WE'RE POSSIBLY GONNA GET FUNDING TO HELP US WITH THAT. WE HAVE A HUGE PRICE TAG ON THIS PARK. I THINK WHERE COUNCIL MCCOMBS IS COMING UP ISN'T NECESSARILY THE, THE, AND I COULD BE WRONG, COUNCILMAN, PLEASE TELL ME IF I AM. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE, THE PARK FACILITIES, IT'S THE LIGHTING. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE NINE BASEBALL FIELDS AND THEY'RE LITERALLY BUILDING THIS RIGHT NEXT TO A NEW SECTION OF SEDONA ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT IF YOU GO, THE GRANT PARKWAY'S GONNA BE THERE. THE, THIS WHOLE AREA. I JUST THINK IT'S A BAD LOCATION. I'VE SAID THIS, Y'ALL ALL KNOW I'VE SAID THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME. I THINK THIS COULD HAVE BEEN PUT IN A MUCH BETTER LOCATION WITH EASIER E ACCESS AND EGRESS. I, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS. THE HEAVY METAL CONTAMINATION [00:30:01] GOT ME BOTHERED QUITE A BIT. THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE WATER CONTAMINATION TONIGHT. UM, THERE'S JUST SO MANY THINGS THAT JUST KEEP POPPING UP ON THIS PROJECT. EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND. THERE'S ANOTHER PROBLEM. AND, AND I JUST, I I, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT ON THE, THE TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE FUNDS. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT. AT LEAST WE HAVE THE MONEY SET ASIDE. BUT OVERALL, I'M JUST NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT. CHAD, WE HAVE YOU UP AFTER ANDY, YOU ARE ON THE QUEUE AS I'LL RECALL YOU A MOMENT. UH, MR. COS YEAH. AGAIN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN, UH, CRUZ, IT, I, IT TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE A WEST SIDE SPORTSPLEX. YEAH. YOU GOT NINE BASEBALL FIELDS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A, A HOUSING EDITION, YOUR OTHER HOUSING EDITIONS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. AND I CAN ALMOST BET YOU, I I CAN HEAR THE SPORTSPLEX FROM WHERE I'M AT AT NIGHTTIME. THIS IS GONNA BE A MAJOR FACTOR IN THE FUTURE. UH, IF IT WAS BUILT FOUR YEARS AGO AND HOUSES CAME IN AFTER THAT, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT'S UP TO THE RESIDENTS THAT MOVED THERE. BUT THIS IS VIRGIN LAND NOW WITH, WITH A COMPLETE SUBDIVISION COMPLETELY AROUND IT. AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOME MAJOR PROBLEMS. IF IT WAS SCALED DOWN TO A COUPLE OF BASEBALL FIELDS AND A COUPLE OF SOCCER FIELDS, I WOULD SAY WE COULD PROBABLY GET AWAY WITH THAT. BUT THIS IS A $40 MILLION PROJECT, A LOT OF MONEY. UM, AND, AND WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTION STARTING IN 2025. LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE GOT A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT I THINK THAT $40 MILLION FROM THE FOUR B COULD BE PAYING FOR TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE, THE PRESSURE THAT WE HAVE ON OTHER FACILITIES. BUT I, I JUST THINK IT'S A VERY BAD LOCATION FOR THIS LARGE OF A COMPLEX. AND BY SPENDING OR GOING TO TXDOT, I MEAN, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE TO GET THE GRANT, I UNDERSTAND IT'S FREE MONEY, IT'S $750,000, BUT ONCE WE COMMIT TO THAT, YOU HEARD STAFF TELL YOU THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANIPULATE THE, THE, THE, THE FIELDS A LITTLE BIT OR SOMETHING, BUT THIS IS THE PLAN THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT. SO THAT MEANS, YES, WE DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THE, THE GRANT, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THAT KINDA LOOKS BAD WHEN WE GO BACK TO, UH, TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE AND TELLS THEM WE DON'T NEED THE GRANT. NOW WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING OUR MIND. IT SEEMS THAT WE GOT OUR CART BEFORE THE HORSE AGAIN ON THIS ONE BEFORE COUNCIL REALLY APPROVES WHAT WE WANT OUT THERE. THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. JUST ONE LAST COMMENT ABOUT, UH, HOW WE ACQUIRED THIS LAND. I GUESS THE QUESTION, UH, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST IN MANY WAYS, IT'S ALMOST A CASE STUDY ON WHAT GOES WRONG WHEN THE CITY STARTS DEVELOPING AND WHERE, AND IT STARTS WITH ACQUIRING A PIECE OF LAND THROUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM A DEVELOPER. AND I'M SURE AT THE TIME, WHOEVER WAS ON COUNCIL AND WHOEVER WAS ON STAFF JUST WAS PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I WOULD HATE FOR Y'ALL TO GO BACK AND FIND OUT THAT THE FIRST TIME I WAS ON COUNCIL THAT I PROVED THE DEAL THAT SOMEHOW GOT THAT. BUT, UH, I FEAR THAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN . HOPEFULLY IT WAS BEFORE MY TIME. I THINK IT'S BEFORE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THERE YOU GO. RIGHT. BUT, UH, AND YOU KNOW, IT, IF, IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN AND THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GO FORWARD, THERE'S GONNA BE A WEST WOULD, IT WILL ESSENTIALLY BE A WEST SIDE SPORTS PLEX. AND, BUT MAYBE IT'LL BE ON A PIECE OF LAND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO EVERY SINGLE TYPE OF REMEDIATION THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY. I MEAN, WHAT'S LEFT, LIKE NUCLEAR WASTE, , WHAT'S, WHAT'S LEFT AT THIS POINT? YOU GOT PIPELINES, YOU GOT HEAVY METALS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, BUT ALSO I THINK THAT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE THINKING ABOUT, UH, SERVING THE CITY IN THE FUTURE, UH, THESE ARE THE KINDS OF, OF DECISIONS THAT YOU MAKE THAT IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU'RE NOT SAVVY ABOUT A DEVELOPER COMING TO YOU AND TRYING TO, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT DEAL. HOW MUCH IS AN ACRE OF LAND ON THE WEST SIDE THESE DAYS? AND YOU END UP WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS. SO, UM, JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT ON, UH, I GUESS HOW A PROJECT LIKE THIS COULD, WHICH SEEMS SO OBVIOUSLY A GOOD PROJECT. WE ALL WOULD, WE ALL WANT TO DO THIS. BUT THEN AS YOU GET INTO IT, IT GETS DEEPER AND DEEPER AND THERE'S ITERATION AFTER ITERATION. IT JUST BECOMES KIND OF A, A MESS FROM THE, FROM THE POLITICAL STANDPOINTS. THANK YOU, CHAD. YEAH, I, I'M SORRY. BUT SOME OF THESE POINTS ARE, ARE FRANKLY LUDICROUS. UM, WE TALK ABOUT HOUSES GOING IN, UM, NEXT TO THIS LAND. WELL, PART OF THE REASON THOSE HOUSES WENT IN IS BECAUSE WE SAT ON THE PROPERTY FOR SO LONG AND NEVER GONE AROUND TO DUKE THE DANG PROJECT. UM, WHEN YOU BUY A PIECE OF LAND, YOU BUY THAT PIECE OF LAND. YOU DON'T BUY THE RIGHTS TO EVERY OTHER PIECE OF LAND NEXT [00:35:01] TO IT FOR SOME UNFORESEEN AMOUNT OF DISTANCE THAT THAT'S NOT HOW THE WORLD WORKS. INSTEAD OF PROPERTY, RIGHT? STATE, WE TOOK THAT LAND, I THINK IT'S BEEN DECADES AGO AT THIS POINT IN LIEU OF PARK DEDICATION FEES. UM, IT'S NOW OUR PARKS LAND AND WE TALK ABOUT MEDIATION OF DIFFERENT ISSUES, BUT, UM, ANYWHERE ELSE WE GO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ACQUIRE LAND. UH, THAT'S GONNA BE WAY MORE EXPENSIVE. UH, SO WE KIND OF ARE WHERE WE ARE. UM, THE, THE FACT IS THE, THE USER GROUPS THAT CAME IN AND TALKED ABOUT THIS PARK ALREADY SAID WE'RE BEHIND. UM, THIS PARK WAS LATE, NOW IT'S EVEN MORE LATE. UM, ALL THIS TALK OF OF KILLING IT OFF, UM, JUST PLAYS KICK THE CAN EVEN FURTHER. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRICE. IT'S FOUR B FUNDS. THIS IS NOT COMING OUT THE PROPERTY TAXES THAT YOU AND ME AND EVERYONE ELSE PAYS. UM, THESE PARKS AREN'T CHEAP AND THEY'RE ONLY GONNA GET MORE EXPENSIVE THE LONGER WE DELAY THIS. UH, ESPECIALLY IF WE START LOOKING, UH, GRANT MONEY, UH, IN THE TEETH. UM, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO KILL THIS PROJECT OFF, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING AND LET'S HAVE A VOTE AND, AND STAND WHERE YOU YOU ARE ON THIS. UM, AND LET THOSE USER GROUPS KNOW, UH, WHERE YOU SIT. UM, I'M, I'M TIRED OF HEARING THESE SAME POINTS ABOUT ALL THE MONEY, ALL THE LOCATION, THE LOCATION IS THE LOCATION WE HAVE. 'CAUSE WE OWN THE LAND. UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET LAND SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR FREE. AND AT THIS POINT WITH THE IDENTIFIED MEDIATION, UH, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS LAND TO MAKE UP THE MONEY TO GET LAND ELSEWHERE. UH, SO WHERE DO WE GO? WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS? IF YOU WANNA DEBATE SOME OF THE, THE DETAILS IN THE PROJECT AS BEING NICE AHEAD VERSUS NEED TO HAVE, THAT'S FINE. UM, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THOSE ARE GONNA CHANGE THE NATURE OF THIS GRANT. IN WORST CASE, WE SAY YES. NOW WE TAKE THOSE OUT TO SAY WE'RE, WE'RE SAVING SOME FOUR B FUNDS AND THE GRANT GETS PULLED. OKAY. BUT IT'S SILLY TO SAY NO. NOW WHEN WE MAY HAVE KEPT THAT MONEY, UM, I, THIS IS JUST ABSOLUTELY IRRATIONAL. UM, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT ONE BIT. SO I'LL BE VOTING YES FOR THIS TONIGHT, JUST LIKE I VOTED YES TO THIS PARK. UM, AND AT THIS POINT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE. MY BRAIN, MY KIDS USE IT. SO THIS AIN'T ABOUT ME. THIS IS ABOUT TAKING CARE OF THIS CITY AND GETTING A GOOD THING DONE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MR. MR. BOW, . LET'S KEEP IT GOING GUYS. UM, I THINK IF, UH, IF WE GO BACK TO WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS IN SERIOUS CONSIDERATION ABOUT A YEAR PLUS AGO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVING FORWARD, I WAS PUSHING VERY, VERY, VERY HARD FOR VALUE ENGINEERING. AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES AND THEN WE PULLED OUT THE NICE TO HAVES AND THEN THERE WERE SEVERAL VOTES. AND SEVERAL MEMBERS ON THIS DAIS RIGHT NOW VOTED TO PUT THOSE NICE TO HAVES BACK IN TO PUSH THAT PRICE UP AS HIGH AS IT IT IS RIGHT NOW. UM, THE OTHER THING THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE DEVELOPER WHO'S BUILDING THOSE NEW HOMES IS ALSO THE DEVELOPER THAT GAVE US THAT PROPERTY. SO IF THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A, A PROBLEM, THEY WOULDN'T BE BUILDING THE NEW HOMES NEXT TO THE PARK. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY GIVE US THE PROPERTY, IF THEY WANNA COME BACK AND SAY THAT IT'S GONNA DIMINISH THE VALUE OF THOSE HOUSES BECAUSE WE HAVE A PARK THERE, THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IN THE PROCESS OF GIVING THE PROPERTY UP FOR THE, UH, IN CONSIDERATION OF THE LAND TO PURCHASE. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THIS IS ALL, UM, THE, BUT IT'S JUST NOT SEDONA THAT'S GETTING AFFECTED. IT'S ALSO GETTING PARKSIDE BAYVIEW. IT'S ALSO AFFECTING PART OF BAY COUNTY WEST. OKAY. NEED TO READ MY NOTE HERE. TURN THE MIC ON. IT'S JUST NOT SEDONA BEING AFFECTED. IT'S ALSO PARKS, UH, PARKSIDE BAYVIEW, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS, UH, CALDER ROAD. THE ONLY THING BLOCKING THEM THERE IS THE BAPTIST CHURCH AND ONE OTHER BUSINESS. UM, THE, AGAIN, MY BIGGEST ISSUE IS AGAIN, IS, IS THE LOCATION. AND I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THE BONDS TONIGHT. THAT WAY WE'VE GOT IT OUT OF THE WAY. IF WE DO CONTINUE WITH THE PROJECT AND WE BUILD IT, WE ALREADY HAVE THE BOND MONEY APPROVED. UM, THE GRANT, THE GRANT MONEY, I'M SORRY, I'M BOND MONEY, THE GRANT MONEY, EXCUSE ME. WE ALREADY HAVE IT APPROVED AND IT'S, IT'S THERE IF WE NEED IT. IF WE DO CONSENT, EVERYTHING DOES PROGRESS AND WE APPROVE IT AND IT MOVES FORWARD. THE, THE BOND MONEY OR GRANT MONEY'S ALREADY THERE. EXCUSE ME. I KEEP SAYING BOND. [00:40:01] THIS BE MY LAST TIME. MAYOR, JUST QUICKLY CHIN, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, COULD YOU COME UP TO THE MIC? LET, LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY A FEW THINGS. 'CAUSE YOU, YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR MANY YEARS. YES, SIR. AND YOU CAN PROBABLY REMEMBER BACK, THIS PROPERTY WASN'T DONATED BY THE SEDONA OR, OR VILLE HOMES OR ANYTHING RECENTLY. THIS PROPERTY'S BEEN DONATED MANY, MANY YEARS BACK. I REMEMBER, I, I THINK IT WAS DR. DUNDEE AND MRS. DUNDEE USED TO COME TO COUNCIL TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, ACREAGE HERE AND HOW IT USED TO BE A BIRD WATCHING SANCTUARY TYPE SITUATION. DO YOU RE RECALL ALL OF THAT? I, UH, I WENT BACK AND READ THE MINUTES. UHHUH WHEN IT WAS ACCEPTED. AND, UH, BIRD SANCTUARY WERE DISCUSSED AT THAT TIME WHEN IT WAS ACCEPTED BY CITY COUNCIL. YEAH. UH, BUT THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WAS BACK IN 2003. CORRECT. AND WE ACCEPTED LAND IN LIEU OF PARK FEES. YEAH. IN, IN LIEU OF PARK FEES. BUT THERE WAS NEVER, EVER A TALK ABOUT THE WEST SIDE SPORTSPLEX AT THIS LOCATION. IT WASN'T UNTIL THIS COUNCIL OR RECENT COUNCIL, I GUESS, DECIDED TO MOVE THE WEST SIDE SPORTSPLEX TO THIS LOCATION. IT'S NOT EVEN THE DEVELOPER OF SEDONA OR PETAL OR ANY OF THEM THAT DONATED THE LAND. IT, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IT CAME THROUGH WITH A PUD, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THERE WAS SOME NEGOTIATION. THERE WAS THREE PUDS ON THE WEST SIDE, AND IT WAS, IT WAS NEGOTIATED THROUGH THAT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY HERE THAT I REMEMBER. SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT, UM, UH, THIS SEDONA OR THIS DEVELOPER GAVE US LAND. HE DIDN'T GIVE US LAND. THIS HAS BEEN DONE 20 YEARS AGO OR, OR MANY, MANY YEARS BACK. UM, AND IT WASN'T FOR A WEST SIDE SPORTS PLEX, IT WAS FOR A BIRD SANCTUARY. IN FACT, I THINK THEY FOUND SOME TYPE OF EXOTIC BIRDS THAT THEY CAME TO COUNCIL WITH AND SO FORTH. BUT ANYWAY, MY POINT TO MR. TRESSLER IS, AND AND I APPRECIATE HIS, HIS CONCERNS AND HIS THOUGHTS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING WITH THE HOUSING EDITION, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT, MR. TRESSLER, THAT IF WE WOULD'VE PUT THIS ON THE GROUND FIVE YEARS AGO, AND BECAUSE OF THE CITY'S LACK OF PUTTING IT ON THE GROUND FIVE YEARS AGO, NOW WE'RE IN A SITUATION THAT WE HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOUSES AROUND THIS SPORTSPLEX OR PROPOSED SPORTSPLEX. AND I WILL GUARANTEE YOU, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM SEVERAL OF THEM, THAT WHEN IT'S THIS CLOSE TO NINE BASEBALL FIELDS AND A WEST SIDE SPORTSPLEX, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT EVENTUALLY, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE WHEN YOU BREAK GROUND. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT AGAINST THE GRAND, I'M NOT AGAINST THE PARK. UH, I'M JUST AGAINST THIS LARGE OF A FACILITY THAT'S BEING CLOSE TO HOUSES. AND I THINK Y'ALL WOULD BE TOO. SAME WAY, UH, ANDY, THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE OIL WELL NEAR YOUR HOUSE. YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE COMPLAIN AND, AND, AND ARGUE AND, AND SO FORTH BECAUSE OF NOISE. THIS IS GONNA BE A NOISE MAKER. AND WE ALL KNOW THAT. UH, IT'S NOT THAT I, I, I DON'T LIKE THE BASEBALL FIELDS. I, I DO ENJOY 'EM, BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE MORE OF A LITTLE PASSIVE PARK WITH, MAY BE A FEW BASEBALL FIELDS, SOCCER FIELDS, AND, AND INSTEAD OF A WEST SIDE SPORTSPLEX WITH NINE, NINE FIELDS ON IT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UH, SO I WOULD SAY WE'LL BRING THIS, WE'LL VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, BUT THEN BRING THIS PROJECT BACK AFTER WE GET THE ENVIRONMENTALS TO DO A FULL WORKSHOP, UH, WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO REVISIT THE LIST THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, AND WE WENT THROUGH PROJECT BY PROJECT. WE'LL REVISIT THAT LIST. WE'LL REVISIT THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE, TRY TO, YOU KNOW, GET TO A FINAL DECISION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD, UH, ONE WAY OR OR ANOTHER. BUT AFTER WE HAVE THE FULL KIND OF SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FROM AN ENGINEERING PERSPECTIVE. AND SO, OKAY, LET'S GO AND WE'LL VOTE ON, UH, THE ITEM. SO CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON OUR RESOLUTION. AUTHORIZING THE CITY TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH TEXAS PARKS WILDLIFE FOR A 50 50 STATE AND CITY MATCHING GRANT, SUPPORTING THE PROPOSED BAY COLONY PARK PROJECT AND RECEIVE FUNDS AND AWARDED FUNDS. AND ALSO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN ANY DOCUMENTS FOR PERTAINING TO THE PROJECT INSTRUCTION. IT IS PASSES FIVE, YES. THREE NO MAN HICKS CONES. UH, NEW [9A. 23-0332 Consider and take action on appointments and reappointments to City boards and commissions (Mayor Long)] BUSINESS. CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON APPOINTMENTS AND REAPPOINTMENTS THE CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING UNEXPIRED TERMS ENDING 12 31 20 23 FOR POSITION TWO, MATTHEW HYDE. MOVE TO APPROVE. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST [00:45:01] CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON APPOINTMENTS, REAPPOINTMENT, CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. POSITION FOUR, MATTHEW PROPST TO APPROVE. SECOND. SECOND. SECOND. THANK YOU. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST NINE B [9B. 23-0285 Consider and take action on a resolution directing city staff to increase the senior (65 years or older) and/or disabled residential homestead tax exemption from $45,000 to $60,000 in the upcoming property tax rate ordinance (Mayor Long, Council Member Cones and Council Member Hicks)] CONSIDERING TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO INCREASE THE SENIOR 65 YEARS OR OLDER AND OR DISABLED RESIDENT HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION FROM 45 TO $60,000 IN UPCOMING PROPERTY TAX RATE ORDINANCE. MAYOR, MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND HOLMES HICKS, UH, MR. BOWEN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UM, I, I SUPPORT THIS. I SUPPORT LOWERING TAXES WHEREVER WE CAN. UM, HOWEVER, UM, THE AMOUNT THAT WAS JUSTIFIED IN HERE, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CORRESPONDING CUT, UH, FROM THE BUDGET SO THAT WE'RE NOT BURDENED, SHIFTING THE TAXES FROM SENIORS TO STRUGGLING YOUNG FAMILIES. UM, SENIORS GET A GREAT BREAK ALREADY WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE FREEZING OF THEIR TAXES WHEN THEY REACH 65. UM, SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A CUT ASSOCIATED WITH IT FOR WHATEVER AMOUNT WE APPROVE. MI UH, MR. CRUZ. UH, THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'M ALSO IN FAVOR OF IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, I KNOW THAT THE $60,000 BRINGS US BACK IN LINE WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US AMEND THIS TO GO FROM, FROM THE 60 TO THE 75,000 AND LET'S, AND THEN LET THAT BE A CHALLENGE TO THE COUNTY TO ALSO RAISE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR THE SENIORS UP TO THE $75,000 LEVEL AS WELL. UM, THE, THE IMPACT OF THIS IS GONNA BE MINIMAL, AND I WOULD, I THINK THIS IS A LOT BETTER WAY, AND IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD DECISION. THANK YOU. TOM, IS THAT A MOTION? YES, IT'S A MOTION. OH, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO AMEND. WELL, GREAT. I AGREE WITH BOTH OF Y'ALL. UM, AND IF WE GO UP TO THE TO THE 75, UH, THEN WE SHOULD IN THE BUDGET MEETINGS, UH, MAKE THOSE, UH, CHANGES AT THE SAME TIME. AND, AND WE'LL GUESS WE'LL REDO THE MATH AND FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY, BUT, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT TIME. MR. BAUMGARTNER, IF I COULD ASK ANGIE, WHO'S SITTING BACK IN THE BACK ROOM, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE GENERAL IMPACT IS FOR THE 75? IS THAT A NO? COULD YOU JUST BRING THAT WHEN WE GET INTO THE BUDGET MEETINGS? I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 45 TO 60 MINUTES. I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 400. AND YOU'RE GONNA DOUBLE THAT IN A LITTLE, IN A LITTLE MORE THAN DOUBLE, BUT LET'S JUST SAY 500,000. WE'RE TALKING TO OVERALL 400,000, ROUGHLY FOUR PROBABLY THOUSAND DOLLARS TOTAL AT THE 75,000. MM-HMM. . WHAT? OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. IT'S IN THE FOUR AND 500,000 RANGE, MR. COS. NOW I, I PLACED IT ON THE AGENDA AND GOT THE CO-SPONSORS SO THAT, UM, AND THE REASON I DID IT, UH, UH, BECAUSE SENIORS ARE HAVING A HARD TIME RIGHT NOW WITH FIXED INCOMES. A LOT OF TIMES IF YOU'RE YOUNGER, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU GET A RAISE COST OF LIVING RAISE AND SO FORTH. SENIORS TYPICALLY DO NOT. AND, AND, UH, I FELT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD GESTURE FOR THE SENIORS OF OUR TOWN SINCE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LARGE IN INFLATION, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH COVID AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO 75,000 IS GREAT TO ME. I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE AND NOT HURT THE BUDGET, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. CRUZ. MR. RE. YEAH. UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THIS TONIGHT. UM, BUT I THINK, UH, WE NEED TO BE CLEAR WITH THE PUBLIC, UM, HOW LITTLE, UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY BENEFITING FOLKS WHEN WE DO THIS. UM, QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE LARGELY, UH, UH, PANDERING. UM, IN ADDITION TO HAVING A, A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, PART OF THE, THE SENIOR EXEMPTION IS A FREEZE ON YOUR TAXES TO THE CITY. UM, IN OTHER WORDS, ONCE YOU HIT THE MAGIC AGE, UM, YOUR TAX BILL TO THE CITY DOESN'T GO UP. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASES, GIVEN THE MASSIVE APPRAISED VALUE INCREASES IN THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS, UM, MORE FOLKS ARE BEING CONSTRAINED RIGHT NOW BY THE FROZEN TAXES, EVEN AT THE HIGHER HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BASELINE VALUE. [00:50:01] UH, SO REALLY THE PEOPLE WE'RE HELPING ARE THOSE NEW TO THE CITY OR WHO HAD THE FUNDS TO MOVE FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE IN THE CITY. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HELPING SENIORS WITH PROPERTY TAXES, THE ISSUE WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT, UM, ARE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THEIR HOUSE FOR THE LAST 30 YEARS, THEY BOUGHT IT WHEN THEY STARTED THEIR CAREER, AND THEY WANNA LIVE OUT THEIR LIFE IN THIS PLACE THAT THEY'VE, UM, PUT THEIR BLOOD, SWEAT, AND TEARS INTO THEIR ENTIRE WORKING LIFE. UM, THIS ISN'T HELPING THEM. THIS IS HELPING FOLKS WHO ARE MOVING, UH, HELPING NEW FOLKS. UM, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DOING THAT. UM, BUT AGAIN, MOST FOLKS DON'T, DON'T GO GETTING TOO EXCITED TO LOOK AT YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL FROM THE CITY AND EXPECT A CUT. UM, IF THE FREEZE WAS IN PLACE MORE THAN THREE YEARS AGO, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT BENEFITING AT ALL BY THIS. UM, SO WE JUST NEED PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THAT. SO WE MANAGE THEIR EXPECTATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. WELL, I, I GUESS I DISAGREE. I MEAN, $522,000 IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. THAT'S, THAT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT, ESPECIALLY OVER A SMALLER SUBSET. BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE QUEUE. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND VOTE. DID YOU REPEAT THE MOTION? SO THE MOTION IS CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION DIRECT CITY STAFF TO INCREASE THE SENIOR 65 OR OLDER AND OR DISABLED RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION FROM 45,000 TO 75,000 IN THE UPCOMING PROPERTY TAX RATE ORDINANCE. THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE, UH, MOTION TO AMEND AND, AND THIS, AND SO THAT HAS, WITH THE CORRESPONDING CUTS IN IT, CORRECT? WITH THE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PASS THE BUDGET ANYWAY IN THE, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY, WE HAVEN'T PASSED THE BUDGET YET TO CUT IT, BUT IT TO REFLECT IT IN THE ORDINANCE OR THE, THE NEW BUSINESS THAT WE'RE VOTING. IT'S NOT WRITTEN. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. WE, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION, BUT HOW WOULD WE, SO JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER, LIKE HOW WOULD WE DO IT? BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PASSED IT TO CUT IT. OKAY. WHEN WE WOULD BE VOTING ON THE BUDGET THAT WE COULD NOT ADJUST THE BUDGET ANY HIGHER THAN WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND IN FACT, WE'D HAVE TO CUT IT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS MORE. I'M OKAY WITH DOING THAT, BUT I JUST OUT OF A, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD DO IT LIKE THIS, IF YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING. LIKE, HOW COULD WE PASS AN ORDINANCE AND THEN TAG ONTO IT THAT THE BUDGET, WE HAVEN'T PASSED YET. WE HAVE TO COME IN 520 CORRESPONDING, CUT A CORRESPONDING CUT OVER THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I I THINK IF WE RAISE, IF WE LOWER THE TAXES THAT WE'RE GONNA COLLECT 500,000, THEN WE NEED TO CUT FIVE EVEN OUTTA THE PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. THEN I WILL ACCEPT THAT, AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE PROPOSED BUDGET AND CUT IN ANOTHER $522,000 TO MATCH THIS DECREASE. OTHERWISE, ALL WE'RE DOING IS MOVING. OH ME, ALL WE'RE DOING IS MOVING THE BURDEN FROM THE SENIORS TO THE, TO THE WORKING FAMILIES. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR. I MEAN, WE HAVE STRUGGLING WORKING FAMILIES OF FOUR OUT THERE THAT ARE BARELY MAKING ENDS MEET ALSO. I'M COOL WITH IT. IT'S JUST NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE, HE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIND THOSE CUTS, BUT THAT'S OKAY. CHAD, CHAD, UH, MAYOR, I MAY HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE. UM, WE HAVE A PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, NOTHING IN THAT'S FINAL. UH, SO WE COULD COME IN AT A HIGHER BUDGET THAN WHAT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED AND SAY THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD ANOTHER 500,000 BEYOND THAT ALREADY EXTRA. UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF VOODOO MATT, UM, TO, TO PUT THAT REQUIREMENT IN PLACE. UM, AND I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT WHETHER WE CUT THAT AMOUNT FROM THE BUDGET OR NOT. UM, WE'RE NOT CUTTING IT ONLY FROM, UH, THOSE WHO ARE BENEFITING FROM THIS INCREASED TONE STAKE EXTENSION, UM, PROGRAMS THAT THEY BENEFIT FROM. WE'RE CUTTING IT FROM THE BUDGET, WHICH AFFECTS EVERYONE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE PERCENTAGE, UH, THAT EVERY RESIDENT'S PAYING, UM, IS NOT GONNA SHIFT BY CUTTING 500,000 ARBITRARILY OUT OF A ALREADY UNDEFINED BUDGET AMOUNT. UM, SO I'M GONNA DISAGREE WITH MR. BOWEN ON THAT. ALL RIGHT. ALL VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. OKAY. MOTION. UH, THE AMENDED MOTION PASSES 7 4 1 AGAINST, SO NOW WE'LL VOTE ON THE MOTION AS AMENDED. SO THAT IS CONSIDERED. AND TAKE ACTION ON A RESOLUTION [00:55:01] DIRECTING CITY STAFF TO INCREASE THE SENIOR 65 OR OLDER AND OR DISABLED RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD TAX EXEMPTION FROM 45 TO $70,000 IN THE UPCOMING PROPERTY TAX ORDINANCE AND REDUCE THE PROPOSED BUDGET BY THE CORRESPONDING AMOUNT. MAYOR, POINT CLARIFICATION. WAS IT 70 OR 75? 75. OH DID, I'M SORRY. YEP. UH, POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YES. UH, DID THE PERSON WHO MAKE THE MOTION, UM, ACCEPT THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE, THE CUT AND DID THE SECOND YES. IT WAS ACCEPTED. YES. VOTED FOR IT. SO, RIGHT. AND WASN'T SAYING THE LANGUAGE OF THE MOTION. THAT'S WHY I ASKED. I CAN'T SEE YOUR THUMB. . SO THAT MOTION PASSES 6 4 2 AGAINST BOWEN TRUSLER BOWEN. [10A. 23-0336 Consider and take action on an ordinance amending Chapter 78, entitled “Peddlers and Solicitors” of the League City Code of Ordinances to update and clarify various sections, providing for codification, publication, and an effective date (Council Member Hicks and Council Member Saunders)] ALRIGHT, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 78 AND TITER, PEDLER AND SOLICITORS OF THE CITY CODE OF ORDINANCES TO UPDATE AND CLARIFY VARIOUS SECTIONS PROVIDING FOR CODIFICATION PUBLICATION AND EFFECTIVE DATE. MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND SAUNDERS HICKS. UH, MR. TRESSLER UP FIRST. ALRIGHT. UM, I FEEL THAT THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF RUSHED OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEEN THIS, UH, IN A WORKSHOP, UM, BEFORE WE WERE BEING ASKED TO VOTE ON IT. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF PRIMARY CONCERNS WITH IT. UH, THE FIRST ONE, AND THE ONE I'M ABSOLUTELY DEAD SET AGAINST IS ASKING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT TO TRAIN SOLICITORS. UM, I THINK THAT'S A SILLY USE OF POLICE DEPARTMENT TIME AND RESOURCES. UM, AND I CAN'T GET BEHIND ASKING THEM TO DO THAT. UM, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRAINING SOLICITORS. WHAT WAS ASKED FOR IS TEETH FOR ENFORCEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAIN THEM ON. UM, MR. IAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE IGNORANCE OF THE LAW HAS NEVER BEEN TO DEFENSE AND PROSECUTION. UM, SO ANY REFERENCE TO TRAINING I'M GONNA SEE GONE. UH, IF WE'RE CONSIDERING THIS TONIGHT, UM, I HAVE AN ISSUE. WE TOOK IT AWAY. UM, THE DEFINITION OF WHO IS IN CHARGE OF REVOKING, UM, PERMITS AND, UM, IDS, I PREVIOUSLY WAS THE, UH, CHIEF OF POLICE. UM, I'M NOT SAYING I WANT AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON SPECIFIED, BUT I FEEL IT, IT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR WHO HAS THAT POWER? UM, IS IT ANYONE WHO WORKS FOR THE CITY? UM, COULD IT BE A PARKS LANDSCAPE WORKER, UH, SOMEBODY WITH THE WATER DEPARTMENT? COULD IT BE ANY, UH, UM, ELECTED OFFICIAL? I DON'T KNOW. SO I WOULD LIKE SOME CLARITY THERE. UM, I ALSO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH CHANGING THE, UH, TIME AT WHICH THE, UM, SOLICITORS ARE REQUIRED TO END TO BE SUNSET. I HAD TO LOOK THIS UP BECAUSE I'M NOT, UH, AN EXPERT ON THAT. BUT IN LEAGUE CITY, SUNSET RANGES ROUGHLY FIVE 30 TO EIGHT 30. UM, FIVE 30 IS A, UH, PRETTY TIGHT RESTRICTION. UH, AND EIGHT 30, EVEN WHEN THE SUN IS STILL UP, IS ALLOWING A LATER TIME THAN WE PREVIOUSLY HAD. SO I'D LIKE SOME TIME TO DISCUSS THAT. UM, WHICH IS AGAIN, PART OF WHY I'D LIKE A WORKSHOP. UM, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WE'RE IMPLEMENTING A DIFFERENT PERMIT FEE FOR BUSINESSES WHERE THEIR PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS IS WITHIN LEAD CITY THAN WE ARE FOR OTHERS. UM, MY CONCERN ON THIS, WE HAVE A POTENTIAL FOR AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. UM, IF I WAS, UM, A NATIONAL SOLAR PANEL INSTALLER, I'M WANTING TO SAVE SOME MONEY. ALL I WOULD DO IS FIND MY LOCAL REPRESENTATIVE, CREATE AN L L C BETWEEN THE TWO OF US. UM, COOL WITH A PO BOX IN LEAGUE CITY AS THEIR PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS. UM, SAVE SOME MONEY. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS WHERE I WORRY ABOUT [01:00:01] THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. UH, PART OF THE TEETH OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO WITH THIS UPDATE IS GET US TO WHERE, UH, A BAD OPERATOR, SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T, UH, USE SOLICITING FOR GOOD ISN'T, UM, CAUSING PROBLEMS. UM, BUT ONE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE FIND THESE BAD OPERATORS, WE WANT THEM TO LOSE THEIR PERMITS AND LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO GET MORE. AND THAT'S PART OF THE TEETH WE'RE CREATING. IF THEY'RE JUST GONNA END UP SETTING UP A NEW L L C AND TIME, UH, WITH A DIFFERENT LOCAL NAME, THEN THAT TOOTH IS REMOVED. UM, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS WE SPECIFY HAVING A CRIMINAL HISTORY CHECKED ON. UH, WE DO NOT SPECIFY HE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE. UM, I'D ALSO LIKE SOME TIME TO HEAR BACK FROM STAFF. UM, I WOULD HOPE AND ASSUME WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING THE, THE SAME SHORT, UH, CHECK THAT HR DOES, NOT THE ONES THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES. UM, BUT THERE'S NO MENTION OF HR BEING INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. UM, WE SAY WE HAVE SEVEN DAYS TO GET BACK TO SOMEONE WITH A PERMIT. CAN WE DO ALL THESE CHECKS DEPENDING ON THE SIZE AND THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THEY'RE ASKING FOR? THAT'S A CONCERN I HAVE. UM, AND THEN THERE'S ONE SUBSECTION THAT ONE COMPLETELY GONE. UM, AND IT'S ONE THAT, THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE STREETS OF PRIVATE SUBDIVISIONS THAT'S IN GATED NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, I WORRY THAT THE LANGUAGE THAT CREATES EXPECTATION THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL, UM, BE POLICING TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM COMING IN. UM, AND THAT'S DIFFERENT TREATMENT THAN EVERY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD IN OUR CITY WILL GET. UM, THE FACT IS, IN A PRIVATE SUBDIVISION, THE ROADS BEING PRIVATE, UH, THEY CAN PUT UP A SIGN SAYING WHATEVER THEY WANT ON WHO'S ALLOWED, WHO IS ALLOWED AT THAT POINT. IT'S A TRESPASSING ISSUE, NOT A SOLICITATION ISSUE. UM, GIVEN ALL THESE CONCERNS, MY FIRST THOUGHT IS TO MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE AT ONE MONTH SO WE CAN SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ON THAT, LET'S VOTE ON THAT. MOTION FAILS. TWO, FOUR OR THREE. FOUR, UH, FIVE AGAINST. NOW BACK TO THE PROCEEDING MOTION. UH, MR. SAUNDERS, I THINK YOU WERE UP. THANK YOU, MR. RICK. UM, THESE, THESE COMPANIES HAVE GOTTEN SO FAR OUTTA HAND. IT'S NOT EVEN FUNNY. WE, I TALKED TO, UH, SOME OF THE, THE POLICE OFFICER ASSOCIATION. I'VE TALKED TO DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. POLICE WERE ASKING FOR SOME KIND OF TEETH. UH, THEY, THEY, FOR SO LONG, THEY HAVEN'T REALLY HAD TEETH TO DO ANYTHING. THEIR MAIN THING WAS GIVE 'EM THE ABILITY TO DO IT. I BROUGHT THE CLASS UP. I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY NEGATIVES ABOUT DOING THE CLASS, UH, THE BACKGROUND CHECKS. UM, I DO AGREE WE NEED TO KNOW IF THESE PEOPLE GOING INTO PEOPLE'S HOUSES ARE COMING IN AROUND, EVEN INTO THEIR DOORS. THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S INSIDE THE HOUSE. UM, WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE CRIMINAL BACKGROUNDS. THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT AND I WILL BE VOTING FOR TONIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. . YEAH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. I, THE, IT'S THE NOTES THAT I HAD. I, WHAT DOES THE, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? HE'S, YOU'RE ON THE QUEUE. MR. RESSLER, YOU'RE ON THE QUEUE. . SO THE, UM, THE ISSUES THAT, THAT MR. TRESCO BROUGHT UP WERE, I, I HAD HAD A COUPLE WITH THE SAME ONES, AND SO I THINK THAT WE MAY NEED TO MAKE, UH, AN AMENDMENT, BUT I WANTED TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THEM TO SEE, AND I MAY NEED SOME HELP WORDING IT. THE, UH, AS FOR WHO CAN PULL THE LICENSE, IT WAS VERY VAGUE. UM, I KNOW THAT THE OLD ONE USED TO SAY THAT THE POLICE CHIEF, BUT IT SHOULDN'T IT SAY SOMETHING LIKE THE CITY MANAGER CAN APPOINT SOMEONE. OTHER THAN IT JUST BEING, NO, IT JUST KINDA LIKE, IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE ANYONE CAN DO IT. UM, MR. DOE DOES THAT FALL TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE A CLARIFICATION, TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION OF THAT? I WOULD POINT OUT THAT REVOCATION IS THE UNDOING OF A PERMIT, ISSUANCE. THE LANGUAGE IN THE SECTION FOR PERMANENT ISSUANCE [01:05:01] DOES NOT SPECIFY WHO ISSUES THE PERMIT AS WE SOMETIMES DO IN OTHER PROVISIONS. FOR CODE. IT'S JUST LEFT UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY, CITY MANAGER OR WHOEVER HE MIGHT, UH, YOU KNOW, DESIGNATE TO DO THAT. UH, CORRECT IN THAT PREVIOUSLY IT DID STATE THAT THE POLICE CHIEF OR DE DESIGNATE, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT BACK IN THERE. THAT WOULD NOT BE A, UH, A DIFFICULT, UH, CHANGE TO MAKE. IF WE DO THAT, THEN I WOULD SUGGEST A CORRESPONDING CHANGE ALSO TO STATE THAT THE ISSUANCE IS ALSO DONE BY THE POLICE CHIEF OR DESIGNEE. BUT BEING THAT IT'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUE, DOESN'T THE CITY MANAGER ALREADY HAVE CONTROL OVER THE ENTIRE ADMINISTRATION OF IT AND COULD ASSIGN IT TO WHOEVER? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE, WITHOUT IT BEING SPECIFIED, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT JUST YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU OR ME COULD JUST REVOKE IT. WOULD IT WOULD NEED OR IS THAT WAY? NO, I BELIEVE WHAT HE IS SAYING IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT SPECIFIED, IT IS PART OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY. JUST LIKE WE DON'T SPECIFY TO BUY, YOU KNOW, NUMBER TWO PENCILS. YEAH. THE, THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES HOW TO RUN THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY, AND THE CITY MANAGER WOULD THEN ASSIGN HOW TO DO THAT. SO FOR, FOR THE, UH, OKAY. GREAT. THAT MAKES THAT EASY. UH, FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECKS, ARE WE DOING, WHEN I HAD TALKED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE HR MANAGER, THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS. THERE WAS THE, UH, THE MORE EXPENSIVE ONE, AND THEN THERE WAS THE CHEAPER ONE. UM, WERE WE GOING, WERE WE PLANNING ON GOING FOR THE MORE EXPENSIVE OR THE, THE LIGHTER ONE? OR WAS, AND I DIDN'T KNOW THE POLICE HAD THEIR OWN BACKGROUND CHECK, OR DO WE GO THAT WAY AND DOES THAT HAVE A COST TO IT AS WELL? UH, IF SO, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD NICE TO BE KNOWN. AND THE LAST THING FOR THE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S TIME TO BE DOING THE TEACHING. SO IS THERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER ALTERNATIVE AND HOW OFTEN WOULD BE HOLDING THE CLASSES? IF WE HAD A SEVEN DAY TURNAROUND, HOW OFTEN WOULD WE, WOULD WE HAVE POLICE OFFICERS HOLDING THIS CLASS? IF, IF YOU'D LIKE, I'D LIKE CHIEF LIEUTENANT MAYBE TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBER CRUZ'S QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO ON, IF THAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COUNCIL. SO HE, DO WE WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THE TRAINING RIGHT NOW OR THE BACKGROUND CHECK? SO IF YOU DO BACKGROUND CHECK FIRST, 'CAUSE I KNOW WE DO THAT TODAY, AND THEN HOW WE DO THAT. AND THEN SECOND, TALK ABOUT PERHAPS A TRAINING STRATEGY TO MOVE FORWARD IF IN FACT, WE ADOPT THE ORDINANCE. CURRENTLY ALL SOLICITORS PERMITTED IN THE CITY OF LAKE CITY ARE, HAVE BACKGROUND CHECKS. THEY'RE RUN THROUGH, UH, OUR RECORDS DIVISION. WE'LL DO A BACKGROUND CHECK ON EACH INDIVIDUAL THROUGH A LAW ENFORCEMENT DATABASE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. PLUS THROUGH OUR RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. I SPOKE WITH HR TODAY ABOUT THE LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE TO DETERMINE WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BACKGROUND CHECK NOW THAT IT WAS A FORMALIZED PROCESS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE. UM, HR IS WORKING ON A MODIFIED BACKGROUND CHECK, AND I HOPE I'M NOT SPEAKING OUT OF TERM FOR HR, BUT THEY'RE WORKING ON A BACKGROUND CHECK THAT IS MORE CONDENSED FOR VOLUNTEERS. OUR SEASONAL PARKS AND REC STAFF, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR TO THAT. UM, THEY WOULD ONLY CHECK, UH, CRIMINAL HISTORIES, UM, SEXUAL OFFENSES, SEX, SEXUAL PREDATORS, UH, AND ANY HOMELAND SECURITY WATCH LIST TYPE INFORMATION. THE CURRENT BACKGROUND CHECK THAT WE USE DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO ANY H UH, HOMELAND SECURITY WATCH LIST IS MORE PURELY FOR OUR, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT CRIMINAL BACKGROUND PURPOSES. UH, SO IF WE WANTED THAT EXTRA LAYER, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE HR PROCESS, WHICH I BELIEVE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 14 AND $15 PER BACKGROUND CHECK. UM, THAT CAN BE CONFIRMED BY, BY HR. I IF MY NUMBERS ARE ASKEW THERE. AS FAR AS THE TRAINING, THE TRAINING IS, I'LL SAY I APPRECIATE ANY, ANY EFFORT THAT ALLOWS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT MORE OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY ON, UM, THE END USER SIDE WHERE WE'RE ACTUALLY CONTACTING THE SOLICITORS. SO OUR CITIZENS CALL QUITE OFTEN ABOUT SOLICITORS. HOWEVER, THE TRAINING ASPECT, I DON'T KNOW IF THE BANG FOR THE BUCK IS THERE. UH, SIMPLY BECAUSE IF WE TRY TO DO IT IN AN IN-PERSON SETTING, UH, THEY COME IN AT ALL TIMES. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF TO THEN PERFORM A TESTING PROTOCOL ALL THE TIME. SO IF WE DO, WE THEN BLOCK IT TO SAY, HEY, THEY CAN ONLY COME IN AND APPLY FOR PERMITS AT CERTAIN TIMES. AND WE PROVIDE THE IN INPRO OR IN-PERSON SO THAT WE CAN VERIFY IDENTIFICATION AND SUCH. UH, IF WE MOVE TO AN ONLINE FORMAT FOR THE TRAINING, WHICH WE SAID IF, IF WE COULD WORK WITH THE PEOPLE HERE THAT WOULD HAVE THOSE, UH, VIDEOGRAPHY CAPABILITIES TO HELP US PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUSH OUT, UH, OR AN [01:10:01] ONLINE PLATFORM. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE ONLINE PLATFORM. WE'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH HOW WE WOULD VERIFY THE PERSON APPLYING FOR THE APPLICATION IS IN FACT THE PERSON TAKING THE TEST. UM, SO THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK THROUGH THERE. SO, UM, IT, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA COME DOWN TO, IF YOU SAY THAT MY STAFF'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT, WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN. UH, BUT I WOULD ALSO THEN COME TO YOU AND SAY, IF WE FIND A PLATFORM THAT DOES THAT, CAN WE HAVE THE CORRESPONDING MONEY TO PAY FOR IT? 'CAUSE IT WASN'T BUDGETED FOR IN OUR, AND WE, I HAVE, I, AS I STAND HERE NOW, I HAVE NO EARTHLY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST IF THERE'S A, A CHEAP VERSION OF A PLATFORM THAT WOULD WORK, OR IF THAT PLATFORM'S GONNA COST US MONEY. SO, UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD PLAY OUT IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S NOT GONNA REDUCE OUR SOLICITOR COMPLAINTS. UM, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND NOW THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ADHERE TO THE, THE ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD BE A, A LEVEL TO SAY, DO YOU UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T DO THIS. BUT WE COULD, IN ESSENCE, DO THE SAME THING WHEN WE SLIDE THEIR APPLICATION ACROSS THAT THEY, WE PROVIDE THEM A COPY OF THE ENFORCEABLE ACTIONS WITHIN THE ORDINANCE AND THEY SIGN, I'VE READ AND UNDERSTOOD THESE ORDINANCES AND WILL ABIDE BY THEM. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF WILL DO WHATEVER THE GOVERNOR BODY SAYS, MR. RES. RIGHT. UM, I'M GONNA MAKE A SERIES OF MOTIONS HERE. UM, MOTION TO AMEND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR DOING A SERIES. UM, I'LL TRY TO DO AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. FIRST ONE I'M GONNA DO IS MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCE FROM TRAINING, UH, OR REFERENCE TO TRAINING IN THIS. UM, I DON'T SEE ANY VALUE ADDED. I SEE AN EXPENSE. UM, SO I SEE NO POINT TO, WOULD YOU MIND MAKING THE MOTION? THAT'S MY MOTION. AND THEN, UH, THEN DOING THE JUSTIFICATION, JUST SO WE CAN KEEP IT STRAIGHT. SURE. MOTION TO AMEND TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCE TO TRAINING FROM THE UPDATE. SECOND, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT? UH, I, I ALREADY DID FOR THE REST OF 'EM. I'LL DO IT IN ORDER TODAY, MAYOR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO AMEND TO MOVE ANY REFERENCE TO TRAINING. MOTION FAILS. 5, 4 3 AGAINST, I, I THINK YOU MEAN CRUISE 3, 4, 5 AGAINST. YES, THAT IS WHAT I MEAN. ALL, ALL RIGHT. MY NEXT ONE IS A MOTION TO AMEND TO LEAVE THE END TIME AT 7:00 PM UM, I DON'T WANT FOLKS GETTING KNOCKS ON THEIR HOUSE AT EIGHT 30, UH, IN THE EVENING WHEN WE HAVE THE LATE SUNSETS, AND I THINK FIVE 30 IS A BIT EARLY, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. UH, SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT LEFT AT SEVEN. SO THAT'S MY MOTION. OKAY. MOTION IS MADE BY TRESSLER SECOND VICE SAUNDERS TO, UH, PERMANENTLY SET THE TIME AT 7:00 PM MOTION PASSES. 8 4 0 AGAINST RIGHT IT. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS A MOTION TO AMEND TO STRIKE SECTION 78 DASH 1587, WHICH IS THE ONE REFERRING TO PRIVATE, UH, STREETS. MOTION FAILS FOR LACK OF A SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UH, THE NEXT ONE IS A, UH, MOTION TO AMEND, UM, TO SET THE PRICE OF THE PERMIT. $200, UH, REGARDLESS OF THE PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS. SECOND MOTION MADE BY TRESSLER, SECONDED BY CRUZ, PLEASE VOTE. MOTION FAILS. FOUR TO FOUR. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ALRIGHT. UH, SO [01:15:01] NOW THE MOTION STANDS, UH, AS PRESENTED WITH THE ONE ALTERATION TO STOP ALL PEDDLING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. AND WE'LL GO TO MR. BOWEN. UH, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT CHIEF SAID AND WHAT, UM, MR. TRESSLER WAS SAYING ABOUT THE TRAINING. IF THEY SIGN A FORM THAT SAYS THEY'VE READ THE, THE, UH, UM, THE, THE RESTRICTIONS OR THE, THE RULES FOR SOLICITATION, AND THEY SIGN THAT THEY CAN BE HELD JUST AS ACCOUNTABLE AS GOING THROUGH ANY TRAINING, AND I'M, I'M, I AM GONNA SUPPORT CHIEF'S CONCERN. WE KNOW WE'RE ALWAYS SHORT OF OFFICERS AND WE HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME KEEPING 'EM ON THE STREETS AS, AS WE STAND HERE NOW AND WE'RE GONNA ADD MORE RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE DEPARTMENT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE BEST USE OF THEIR TIME. SO I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THE BIG THING THAT I WANNA SAY THOUGH, IS TO THE CITIZENS, THE ONLY WAY THIS WORKS IS IF YOU PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL WHEN A SOLICITOR COMES, THAT'S BREAKING THE RULES. THEY DON'T HAVE A PERMIT. THEY'RE, THEY'RE THERE AT THE WRONG TIME. THEY'VE KNOCKED ON YOUR DOOR WITH A NO SOLICITATION SIGN. IF YOU DON'T PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL POLICE, THIS DOES NOT WORK. ANYTHING WE DO UP HERE IS WORTHLESS UNTIL YOU PICK UP THAT PHONE. THANK YOU. TRUE. MR. SAUNDERS. UH, THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN COMBS. I'M HORRIBLE ABOUT THAT. HAVE I HATE THAT. ANYWAYS, UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN BOWEN THAT CITIZENS HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE WITHOUT THAT NO ORDINANCE WE PUT IN PLACE ON THIS IS, IS GOING TO DO A BIT OF GOOD. YOU HAVE TO PICK UP THE PHONE, YOU HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW A LOT OF CITIZENS FEEL LIKE IT'S WASTING THE OFFICER'S TIME TO HAVE TO COME OUT THERE ON IT, BUT THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ENFORCE THE ORDINANCE IS TO HAVE THEM COME OUT. UM, IT, IT, IT, IT'S GOTTA BE DONE. THE, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, ABOUT THE BACKGROUND CHECK AND THE EXPENSE OF THE BACKGROUND CHECK. THE ORIGINAL FEE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WAS $10 FOR THE PERMIT. WE INCREASED THE, THE PERSONAL PERMIT UP TO $50. SO THAT'S GONNA COVER THE INCREASE IN COST TO DO, DO THE BACKGROUND CHECK. SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR IT. UM, THE CLASS, MAYBE I'M, MAYBE I'M MISCONSTRUED THIS, THE CLASS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN PERSON. UH, I, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN PUT ON AN ONLINE CLASS THAT IS THE SAME AS SIGNING THE FORM. I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM ABOUT SIGNING THE FORM. I DID. I WANTED THIS OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION FOR SOME OF THESE COMPANIES. AND WE HAVE ONE THAT RECENTLY HAD THEIR PERMIT PULLED AND THEY CHANGED THEIR LAST NAME. THAT'S ALL THEY DID. THE LOGO IS THE SAME, THE COMPANY'S THE SAME, EVERYTHING'S THE SAME. THEIR ACTIONS ARE THE SAME. AND IT'S, IT'S ALL, Y'ALL KNOW THAT I'M THE PRESIDENT OF MY H O A BOARD AND MY HOMEOWNERS CALL ME WHENEVER THE STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENS, I TELL THEM TO CALL THE POLICE. BUT WHENEVER IT'S THE SAME COMPANY THAT I KNOW FOR A FACT, WE PULLED THE PERMIT ON. MY FIRST CALL WAS TO HIM WHEN IT HAPPENED. THAT WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? WE'RE WE'RE ALLOWING THEM TO GO AND VIOLATE OUR RULES. WE PULL THE PERMIT, THEY CHANGED THEIR NAME A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY'RE BACK UP DOING THE SAME EXACT THING THAT THEY WERE DOING, THAT THEY GOT THE PERMIT PULLED ON. UH, I HAD ONE THAT LITERALLY BECAME, NOT PHYSICALLY AGGRESSIVE, BUT VERBALLY AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS A HOMEOWNER BECAUSE SHE SAID, NO, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, I'M, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO EARN A DOLLAR DA DA DA. AND JUST KEPT ON, INSTEAD OF SAYING THANK YOU AND WALKING OFF, I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN, WE HAVE A GOOD IT DEPARTMENT. WE HAVE A GOOD POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE CAN PUT ON AN ONLINE FORM CLASS THAT GOES OVER ALL THE RULES, NOT JUST THE SHEET OF PAPER, BUT ALL THE RULES MAYBE IN MORE LITTLE, MORE DETAILED THAN JUST A PIECE OF PAPER. THEY HAVE TO TAKE, MAYBE A LITTLE TEST AT THE END. THEY PRINT OUT A CERTIFICATE AND THEN THEY TURN THAT IN. AT THAT POINT IN TIME, IF WE PULL THE PERMIT OR THEY'RE, THEY DO SOMETHING THAT'S SO EGREGIOUS THAT WE PULL THE WHOLE PERMIT FOR THE BUSINESS, THE BUSINESS CAN'T COME BACK TO US AND TRY AND SUE US FOR SOME REASON, WE SAID, HEY, THIS IS THE CLASS. YOUR EMPLOYEE WENT THROUGH THIS CLASS, THEY DID THIS. YOU LOSE YOUR PERMIT. THAT'S MY WHOLE PER BASIS BEHIND THAT. GOT IT. MAKES SENSE. TOM CRUISE, I, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH, WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING. MY, MY ISSUE IS JUST WITH THE POLICE TRAINING, IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD TO TAKE THE, UH, TEXAS ALCOHOL LICENSE TEST TO BE ABLE TO, TO SELL BEER AT THE MUSIC VEST, EVERYTHING WAS ONLINE. WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO. UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO TO ANY KINDA IN-PERSON. AND SO IF THAT WORKS FOR SOMETHING LIKE ALCOHOL, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T HAVE THAT WORK FOR THE CITY. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. OTHERWISE. I LOVE IT. I, I, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THESE DOOR-TO-DOOR PEOPLE CAN BE SUPER AGGRESSIVE AND IT CAN BE VERY SCARY AND PEOPLE ARE JUST, A LOT OF 'EM ARE NATURALLY POLITE. SO I THINK THIS IS A, A WONDERFUL THING. UM, THE, THE SEVEN O'CLOCK PIECE, [01:20:01] I WAS, I WANNA MAKE SURE, CAN WE MAKE IT TO WHERE SEVEN O'CLOCK IS THE LATEST? CAN WE GO THE EARLIER BETWEEN SUNDOWN AND SEVEN O'CLOCK? BECAUSE OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, AT WHEN IT DROPS AT FIVE O'CLOCK, PEOPLE AT SEVEN, IT'S GONNA BE TOO DARK. SO IS IT TOO LATE FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DO THE EARLIER OF SEVEN O'CLOCK? I WILL ACCEPT THAT MOTION. OKAY. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION. ALRIGHT, SO, SO I MAKE THAT MOTION. SO ARE WE BACK TO SUNSET ? SO THE EARLIER OF SEVEN O'CLOCK OR SUNSET? YEAH. OKAY. UH, THE MOTION IS TO EARLIER OF SEVEN O'CLOCK OR SUNSET. SET THERE SECOND. YEAH, I SECOND IT. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST, DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE WORDING TO THE, WE CAN CONSIDER ONLINE CLASSES OR SOMETHING OTHER THAN TO HAVE POLICE IN PERSON CLASSES? HOW ABOUT WE BRING BACK SOME WORDING ON THE SECOND READING? I LIKE IT. WE GOTTA, WE WON'T HAVE TIME TO BREAK, CREATE THE CLASS OR ANYTHING. SECOND, ANY MAY. I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE CONTINUE WITH THIS PANDER FEST, LET US NOT FORGET THAT, UH, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE COMMUNICATED TO THIS ARE THE CITIZENS. UM, JUST, I'M IN THE SAME BOAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHENEVER SOMEONE COMES THROUGH MAG CREEK, THEY TEAR US, TEAR US UP ON FACEBOOK, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE NOT JUST ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CALL, BUT THAT WE EDUCATE THE CITIZENS OF LEAGUE CITY AS TO WHAT TO LOOK FOR BEFORE THEY CALL MAN. IF WE KNEW SOMEBODY WHO WORKED WITH ALL THE HOAS AND COULD GET IT OUT TO ALL THE HOAS, OR IF WE OF LIKE, SOME KIND OF GROUP OR ALLIANCE OF THEM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. OR IF WE HAD A DEPARTMENT THAT WAS ALREADY FUNDED WITHIN THE CITY THAT TALKS WE'LL, THE CITIZENS, WE'LL DO BOTH. WE'LL DO BOTH. OF COURSE. THAT'S, THANK YOU, MR. HICKS. YEAH. UM, SO I, I KNOW I HEAR SOME DISSENTING COMMENTS ABOUT THE, UH, TRAINING PROGRAM, AND THAT WAS MINE. AND JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW, IS THAT THE FULL INTENT OF THAT REALLY, AND MAYBE IT WASN'T WORDED ALL THE WAY, WAS TO DO SOMETHING ONLINE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, SOME SIMPLE SLIDES, A SIMPLE, A SIMPLE TEST JUST, JUST TO SAY, WE WANNA FORCE YOU TO READ IT. IF YOU DON'T PASS A SIMPLE TEST AND PRESENT IT BEFORE YOU GET YOUR PERMIT, YOU DON'T GET THE PERMIT. AND THAT WAS THE INTENT. SO I, I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYBODY PROBABLY SEE ME SITTING HERE IN FRUSTRATION AS I'M LISTENING TO IT, BUT NO, ONLINE WAS THE INTENT. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW. OKAY, WELL, PERFECT. YEAH. I, I LIKE IT. RIGHT? YEAH. AND, AND RIGHT. IT IS JUST, IF YOU GO BACK TO IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, I THINK NORMALLY THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS THAT YOU HAND 'EM AN ORDINANCE AND YOU JUST SIGN, I SWEAR I READ IT RIGHT AND UNDERSTAND IT, BUT I, I WANT TO FORCE THEM TO READ IT AND UNDERSTAND IT AND BYPASS PASSING A SIMPLE 10 QUESTION TEST. AND, AND I, AND CLIFF AND I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I WANNA LEAVE IT UP TO THEM AS TO WHAT IS THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COST-EFFECTIVE WAY TO DO IT. UH, THEY GET DISCRETION, IN MY OPINION, AS TO HOW TO DO IT. IT WASN'T GONNA BE SOME CLASS. IT WASN'T GONNA BE A CLASS WHERE THEY'RE INSTRUCTING YOU PERFECT SCHEDULED CLASSES. IT WASN'T GONNA BE LIKE THAT. MR. HICKS IN A GROUP. THANK YOU. OH MY GOD. FIRST TIME EVER. RIGHT? THINGS HAPPEN ALL OVER THE PLACE TONIGHT. FIRST, EVERYWHERE FOLKS, UH, MR. TRESSLER . YEAH. UM, I, I MUST HAVE MISSED SOMETHING WHILE I'VE BEEN, UH, OUT OF TOWN. I WASN'T AWARE COUNCILMAN SAUNDERS FINISH HIS LAW DEGREE. UM, BUT THE, THIS CONCERN OF SOMEBODY COMING BACK AND SUING US BECAUSE THEY SAY THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND. WELL, ANYBODY CAN SEE YOU FOR ANY REASON. UM, BUT WE HAVE A CLEAR PRECEDENT THAT IGNORANCE IS NO DEFENSE. SO I, I'LL DISAGREE WITH THAT ARGUMENT. UM, HAVING SAID THAT, SINCE I TRIED TO GET THE, UM, EDUCATION PORTION REMOVED AND FAILED, I'M GONNA BRING A DIFFERENT MOTION. UM, THIS TIME I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND, UH, TO REMOVE THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TRAINING FROM OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUT IT ON OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. YEAH. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, UH, CHAD, BUT, UM, I WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT THOUGH. IS THAT IT, IT MUST BE PRESENTED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU PASSED THE TEST BEFORE THE PERMIT'S ISSUED. AGREE. OKAY. DEAL. DEAL. OKAY. SO I UNDERSTAND, MAKE THAT PART OF MY MOTION. SO MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS CORRECTLY. THEY TAKE THE TEST, HR [01:25:01] IS ADMINISTER, OR NOT HR, BUT COMMUNICATIONS ADMINISTERS THE TEST, BUT THEY HAVE TO SHOW PROOF OF THE TEST TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO ISSUING OF THE AS PART OF THE PERMIT. YEAH. I DON'T THINK ANYTHING ACTUALLY CHANGES. 'CAUSE I'M PRETTY SURE THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT WAS GONNA DO IT ANYWAY. THAT'S FINE. I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND. IT HAS PRESENTED TO POLICE. IT MAKES CHAD FEEL BETTER. WE ASK A LOT. IT, WE ASK A LOT OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT. UM, I DON'T WANNA ADD MORE, UM, WITHOUT PROVIDING RESOURCES. SO I FEEL THIS IS SOMETHING THAT FALLS UNDER COMMUNICATIONS TO LET THEM HANDLE IT. OKAY. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE VOTE. IT IS. WE'RE GOOD. THERE'S NOBODY ON THE QUEUE, SO LET'S ROCK. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S AMENDED. PERFECT TIME. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION. UH, THE FIRST TIME. THE FIRST ONE IS THE TIME, IT IS THE EARLIER OF SUNSET OR 7:00 PM AND THEN IT IS THAT COMMUNICATIONS WILL, UH, DESIGN THE TRAINING AND THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE VERIFYING THE TRAINING. MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST. [10B. 23-0345 Consider and take action on an ordinance authorizing the issuance of City of League City, Texas General Obligation Improvement Bonds, Series 2023; Levying a tax in payment thereof; providing for the award and sale of the bonds; enacting other provisions relating thereto; and providing for the effective date thereof (Assistant City Manager - CFO)] ALRIGHT, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION ON AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF CITY OF LEAGUE, CITY, TEXAS GENERAL OBLIGATION IMPROVEMENT BOND SERIES 2023, LEVYING ATTACKS AND PAYMENT THEREOF, PROVIDING FOR THE AWARD AND SALE OF THE BONDS, ENACTING OTHER PROVISIONS RELATING THERETO, AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE THEREOF. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO APPROVE THE AUTHORIZED GO BONDS WITH ONE CONDITION. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE OUT THE NEW WINFIELD ROAD, UH, FUNDING UNTIL COUNSEL HAS A CHANCE TO CONSIDER THAT FURTHER. BUT I WILL APPROVE THE 20,900,000 FUNDING. SECOND, JUST CANNOT SPEND MONEY ON THE OTHER SECOND THIS EVENING. WE'RE HERE FOR THE FOURTH ISSUANCE OF THE GEO PROP B FOR STREETS, TRAFFIC AND MOBILITY. AND WE'RE GONNA CALL OUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR UP TO TALK ABOUT THE BIDS THAT CAME IN TODAY. THANK YOU, ANGIE MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, JOE MORROW WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES, ALSO FROM MY OFFICE. JOINING ME TONIGHT IS BENJAMIN ROVAT AND YOUR BOND COUNSEL FROM, UH, BRACEWELL BARON WALLACE. UH, THIS AFTERNOON OR THIS MORNING RATHER, WE DID TAKE BIDS, UH, FOR YOUR BONDS LEADING UP TO THAT. AS PART OF OUR PREPARATION PROCESS, WE DID GO AND, UH, HAVE CALLS WITH THE RATING AGENCIES. YOUR RATINGS WERE CONFIRMED AT AA ONE BY MOODY'S AA PLUS BY STANDARD AND POORS. JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT IS, UH, AMONG THE TOP RATING THAT YOU CAN GET. THERE'S ONLY ONE STEP UP, AND THAT'S AAA. SO YOU CARRY A VERY STRONG RATING. IN THE BOOKLET THAT WE PASSED OUT THIS EVENING, AT THE VERY BACK OF THAT, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THOSE TWO REPORTS. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO. THEY, UH, HAVE BEEN REVISING THEIR PRESENTATIONS, AND I FIND THEM TO BE VERY INFORMATIVE, AND I THINK, UH, YOU'LL BE PLEASED TO READ SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT THAT THE CITY DOES VERY WELL, UH, LIKE PLANNING, UH, STRONG ADMINISTRATION, GOOD FINANCIAL POLICIES. SO THEY ARE RECOGNIZING, UH, THE GOOD WORK AND PLANNING THAT YOU ARE DOING, WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THIS PROCESS THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS BUDGET, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE A, A LOT OF THIS WORK, UH, GOES. THAT, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LOOK AT IS HOW DID YOU BUDGET, HOW WELL DO YOU STICK TO IT? UH, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY MEASURING STICKS THAT THEY USE IN THIS BOOK. IF YOU WILL TURN TO TAB TWO, WE'LL JUST RUN DOWN REAL QUICKLY. THE RESULTS THAT WE GOT THIS MORNING AT 10 15, WE HAD, UH, BIDS DUE ON AN ELECTRONIC PLATFORM CALLED PARITY. AND ON THAT, IT GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BROKER DEALERS TO SUBMIT A BID FOR ALL OR NONE OF YOUR BONDS. WE DO AN ALL OR NONE BID SO THAT THEY'RE BUYING ALL 20 MILLION, 900,000 WORTH OF BONDS. [01:30:01] AND, UH, WE AWARD THAT BASED ON THE BEST INTEREST COST, WHICH WE CALCULATE AS THE TRUE INTEREST COSTS, WHICH TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE COSTS ASSOCIATED, UH, WITH THE ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS. SO WE HAD NINE FIRMS SUBMIT BIDS, UH, VERY STRONG SHOWING THIS MORNING. PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE YOU WERE OUT IN THE MARKET WITH A DOUBLE A ONE DOUBLE A PLUS CREDIT RATING. UH, WHENEVER A HIGH RATED CREDIT WITH A FAIRLY LARGE AMOUNT OF DEBT COMES TO MARKET, IT ATTRACTS A LOT OF INTEREST, UH, BECAUSE AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT, YOUR, YOUR BONDS ARE AMONG, UH, THE TOP CREDITS COMING INTO THE MARKET. THE WINNING BID CAME FROM TD SECURITIES AT 3.6344. BANK OF AMERICA SECURITIES HAD THE COVER BID OR SECOND PLACE BID AT A 3.66. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, AS YOU GO DOWN THROUGH ALL OF THE BIDS, THEY GRADUALLY TICK UP UNTIL WELLS FARGO HAD THE HIGHEST RATE THAT WAS BID, WHICH WAS A 3.795. ALL OF THOSE RATES THAT WERE BID TODAY BEAT WHAT WE WERE CALCULATING, UH, FROM OUR TRADING DESK OF WHERE WE THOUGHT THESE MIGHT GO AT THE TIME THAT WE POSTED YOUR DOCUMENTS UP FOR THE SALE, WHICH WAS, UH, ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO. IT WAS THE FRIDAY, UH, NO, IT WAS THE MONDAY, UH, MONDAY AHEAD. SO, UH, SIX BUSINESS DAYS AGO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU ACCEPT THE OFFER OR, OR THE BID FOR YOUR BONDS FROM TD SECURITIES. IF YOU TURN THE PAGE BEHIND, UH, TAB NUMBER THREE, YOU WILL SEE THE, UH, DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE. AND WE'RE GONNA BE AMORTIZING STARTING IN YOUR NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THIS IS A VERY OPPORTUNE TIME TO BE, UH, IN YOUR BUDGET PROCESS AND GET THIS INTO NEXT YEAR WE'LL HAVE 20 PAYMENTS AND THEY WILL RANGE BETWEEN, UH, RIGHT AROUND A 1,480,000 AND AMORTIZE YOUR DEBT, UH, ANNUALLY ON THAT BASIS. I GUESS THE ONLY OTHER, UH, OTHER THING THAT, UH, I WOULD SAY IS IF YOU LOOK AT TAB ONE JUST AS A, UH, INDICATION OF WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE CURRENTLY AND WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN, THIS IS A GRAPH OF THE BOND BUYER INDEX. UH, THAT IS AN INDEX OF 40, UH, BOND ISSUES, 20 YEAR MATURITIES. IT'S A SURVEY THAT IS, IS DONE, THE BASKET OF BONDS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT CHANGES, BUT THEY ARE ALWAYS, UH, HIGH GRADE SECURITIES THAT TRADE FREQUENTLY. YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF NEW YORK, UH, STATE OF TEXAS, CALIFORNIA BONDS IN THIS, UH, INDEX. AND IT IS WHAT WE USE IN THE BOND MARKET TO TRACK THE DIRECTION OF INTEREST RATES. IT'S, THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT, UH, WHAT THE PURPOSE IT SERVES IN A SENSE LIKE THE DOW JONES AVERAGE OF 30 STOCKS, RIGHT? IT, IT JUST IS GIVING YOU A DIRECTION OF INTEREST RATES. YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN OFF THE TOPS, UH, OF WHAT WE HAD, UH, A FEW, FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, AND UP FROM THE LOWS DURING THE PANDEMIC, RIGHT WHEN, WHEN MONEY WAS PURPOSELY DRIVEN, CHEAP AND RATES HAVE COME BACK UP SINCE THEN. THAT DOTTED RED LINE JUST UNDER 4%, THAT'S THE AVERAGE FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS OF WHERE THE RATES HAVE BEEN. SO, UH, WE SOLD TODAY AT A 3.6, THREE FOUR TRUE INTEREST COST, WHICH WE'RE BELOW THE AVERAGE COST OF MONEY FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS. AND, UH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST AN INTERESTING POINT THAT, UH, WHERE WE'RE SELLING AT NOW, EVEN THOUGH WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT INTEREST RATES ARE GOING UP AND HAVE GONE UP, AND THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE GONE UP QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST, UH, UH, YEAR AND A HALF. BUT, UH, ON A HISTORICAL BASIS, WE'RE, WE'RE SELLING AT A VERY GOOD, UH, A VERY GOOD RATE AND BETTER THAN AVERAGE OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY, ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROCESS OR YOUR RATING OR THE BONDS. [01:35:01] I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE GENTLEMAN. UM, THE REOFFERING, DOES THAT MEAN BECAUSE WE HAVE EXISTING BUSINESS WITH TD AMERITRADE? IS THAT WHAT OH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. THE REOFFERING BOX THAT IS ON THERE, YES, SIR. THE, I THAT'S, UH, THEY GIVE US THE RATES AND I CLICK THAT TO SEE WHAT YIELDS THEY ARE OFFERING TO THE PUBLIC. SO, UH, THAT'S HOW I CALCULATE OUT, UH, WHAT THEIR BID IS AND TO BE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERING IN OUR BID SPECS, OUR NOTICE OF SALE. UH, WE TOLD A MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT WE HAD TO HAVE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE SELLING NINE 19,550,000, BUT WE'RE PUTTING INTO CONSTRUCTION 20,000,900 PLUS WE'RE COVERING THE COST OF, UH, OF ISSUANCE WITH PREMIUM. SO, UH, I USE THE REOFFERING PREMIUM TO SEE YOU'RE PAYING US THIS, RIGHT? YOU'RE BUYING LOW, YOU'RE SELLING HIGH, RIGHT? SO HOW MUCH ARE, UH, YOU CHARGING TO THE INVESTOR? SO I SEE HOW MUCH THEY'RE MAKING OUT OF THE DEAL, AND BE SURE AND VERIFY THAT WE ARE PUTTING INTO, UH, LEAGUE CITY'S BANK ACCOUNT WHAT, WHAT WE NEED TO, TO COVER COSTS OF ISSUANCE AND GET YOUR VOTED AUTHORIZATION THERE. THANK YOU, MR. . I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN. I KNOW THAT, THAT TOMMY WANTED TO CARVE OUT A, UM, FOR THAT ROAD, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO DO ANY KIND OF A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE ROAD TO TO, AND I KNOW THAT IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING. I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PRELIMINARY AND HOPE THAT WE COULD HOLD OFF UNTIL I HAVE TIME AT LEAST TO LOOK AT WHAT HE WANTS TO TAKE OUT. SO MAYBE I CAN RESTATE THE, THE MOTION. SO IT IS THE MOTION AS WRITTEN WITH THE STIPULATION THAT BEFORE PROCEEDING ON CONSTRUCTION OF WINFIELD ROAD, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL TAKE A SEPARATE VOTE CONCERNING THAT ROAD. OKAY. WHICH WE WERE GOING TO. YES. OKAY. THAT WAS MY CONCERN, MR. RESLEY. I, I ASSUME, UH, BUT I JUST WANNA CONFIRM, UH, IF WE APPROVE THE BONDS, SELL THE BONDS, AND THEN TAKE OUT WINFIELD ROAD, UM, WE HAVE OTHER ROAD PROJECTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS WHOLE, UH, UM, THING THAT WE CAN ROLL THAT FUND INTO, CORRECT? YES. SO WHAT WE WOULD, WHAT WE WOULD DO IF WINFIELD ROAD IS NOT MOVED FORWARD, AND WE WOULDN'T SPEND THESE DOLLARS ON THAT ROAD, IS WE ANTICIPATE ANOTHER BOND SALE OFF OF THE 2019 IN THE SPRING OF 2024. AND THEN WE WOULD APPLY IT LIKELY TO LANDING BOULEVARD, BUT ONE OF THE OTHER, UM, APPROVED ROADWAY BOND PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE. YES. OKAY. AND WE'RE NOT LIKELY TO GET BETTER INTEREST RATES THAN, THAN, THAN NOW. SO, UH, ALL RIGHT, COOL. MAYOR, JUST POINT OF ORDER. DO WE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE TD SECURITIES TONIGHT? OR IS THAT ASSUMPTION I I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. WE NEED TO CHANGE THE MOTION TO REFLECT THE APPROVAL OF TD SECURITIES ALSO YES. AS RECOMMENDED BY THE, UH, CONSULTANT AS RECOMMENDED. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL TAKE THE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. PLEASE VOTE. MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST, THERE IS A REQUEST FOR FIRST AND FINAL. SO MOVED. SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT. WE'LL DO HICKS BOWEN FIRST AND FINAL MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST, UH, THERE IS NO ITEMS ADDED AFTER ELECTRONIC AGENDA REPORTS FROM STAFF MEMBERS. I'LL YIELD MY TIME PORT [13. COUNCIL MEMBERS COMMENTS/REPORTS] FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS MAYOR PRO TEM YIELD MY TIME. TIME COUNTS. YES. MAYOR, JUST ONE COMMENT. I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE AND WISH OUR COLLEAGUE, MR. MAN, A HAPPY BIRTHDAY TONIGHT. HE'S, UH, 50 YEARS OLD PLUS, SO I JUST WANNA WISH HIM A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU, TOM CRUISE. HAPPY BIRTHDAY. ANDY. YIELD MY TIME. MR. BOWEN YIELD MY TIME. HAPPY BIRTHDAY OLD MAN, MR. HICKS. . UM, WELL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ANDY. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ONE OTHER SPECIAL BIRTHDAY TONIGHT IS MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY. DEBORAH, YOU HAVE THE SAME BIRTHDAY AS HER. THE GENIUSES, RIGHT? UH, AND LAMAR BE RIGHT. UH, SO, AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DEBORAH AS WELL. AND THEN, UH, ALSO IN CASE ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW OVER THE WEEKEND, THE, UH, LEAGUE CITY, AMERICAN LEGION BASEBALL [01:40:01] TEAM WON THE STATE TITLE AGAIN AND WE'LL BE GOING ON TO REGIONALS IN CALIFORNIA AND POSSIBLY BACK ONTO THE WORLD SERIES AGAIN. THAT'S SEVEN OUT OF SEVEN OUTTA 10 YEARS, AND ONE YEAR WAS BECAUSE OF COVID. THEY DIDN'T HAVE, UH, LEAGUE PLAY THAT YEAR, SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THEM. THAT'S AWESOME. UH, MS. RESLER, I JUST WANNA TAKE A QUICK SECOND TO APOLOGIZE TO THE CITIZENS AND, UH, MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS. IF I WAS A LITTLE SNIPPY AT NIGHT, IT'S, UH, IT'S NOW ONE 40 IN THE MORNING, . SO SORRY ABOUT THAT. UH, IT'S, UH, THAT IS FINE. MR. SAUNDERS. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY, COUNCILMAN AND I . UH, AND YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT KIND OF RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY IS YOU'RE VOTING UP HERE FOR SENIOR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND YOU'RE GETTING CLOSER, CLOSER AND CHASING IT DOWN PRETTY HARD. UH, WITH THAT, WITH THAT, I'LL YIELD MY TIME. UH, THE CITY COUNCIL [14. EXECUTIVE(CLOSED) SESSION(S)] WILL NOW GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION PURSUANT TO SUBCHAPTER D OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. SECTION 5, 5, 1 AT ALL TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE ON THIS 25TH DAY OF JULY, 2023 AT 7 41 WITH [15. ACTION ITEM(S) FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION(S)] REGARD TO ANY MATTER IN EXECUTIVE SESSION JUST CONCLUDED, CONSIDER AND TAKE ACTION REGARDING CONSULTATION WITH CITY ATTORNEY TO WHITT RIVERVIEW AT CLEAR CREEK MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZE STAFF TO TERMINATE, UH, TERMINATE THE RIVERVIEW THREE 80 CONTRACT. SECOND. ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A MOTION, A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE . MOTION PASSES 8 4 0 AGAINST WIFE SIZE CONSIDERED. TAKE ACTION ON DISCUSSION CONSIDERING POTENTIAL PURCHASE SALE OF REAL PROPERTY INTERESTS, NO MOTION, UH, NEEDED, UH, NO ACTION. AND THEN ADJOURNMENT AT SIX, OR SORRY, 8:07 PM THERE BEING NO FURTHER ACTION. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. GO SLEEP COUNSEL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.